"Think about spinning the ball, don't think about curving it." Al Leiter shares the wisdom he learned from Sandy Koufax about throwing a curveball.
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@petergardiner45854 жыл бұрын
Someone please buy Al his own remote.
@abro71893 жыл бұрын
Do you know Christ
@unoqualunque54843 жыл бұрын
Sheeesh first thing I tought
@FR-uf1kg3 жыл бұрын
@@abro7189 That’s my cousin
@yakattack89786 жыл бұрын
Man, Leiter sure was giving the Luke the videoboard guy a workout over there
@telosanton6 жыл бұрын
STOP STOP STOP! OK SO RIGHT HERE BACK UP!
@KingCitaldo1256 жыл бұрын
Should have just given him a remote control lol
@jimmymac636 жыл бұрын
But seriously, that was a great presentation!
@wesharding24696 жыл бұрын
i came down to the comments hoping to see someone mention this,
@Madcap1119895 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah
@conni705 жыл бұрын
luke is earning his paycheck...
@idk92764 жыл бұрын
conni70 so is the playback guy
@phobix334 жыл бұрын
@@idk9276 luke is the playback guy.
@abro71893 жыл бұрын
Do you know Christ
@crunchwrapsupreme93725 жыл бұрын
Al Leiter seemed hopped up on cocaine or something, I couldn’t stop laughing.
@joeblow51064 жыл бұрын
He snorted a ball of sorts before the segment. Love his passion for talking about pitching
@t3hrasterbator6 жыл бұрын
MLB Network is the absolute best. Holy crap that was really knowledgeable.
@scottlesage98465 жыл бұрын
sbblakey777 knowledgeable?? As a former player and curve ball pitcher, he’s a joke. All he got right was, more spin = a bigger break
@RagingAcid5 жыл бұрын
@@scottlesage9846 stfu scott
@rizzbok134 жыл бұрын
Really? If you "learned" from this you need a coach in your life kid. This is weatherman shit here. While its raining outside..... Hes on tv telling you to prep for possible rain. What a joke for a 6 figure salary.
@dfboiler4 жыл бұрын
Missing the point on spin rate, fastball carry, is far more important use of spin rate. Only good thing he says is to wait till you’re big and strong enough and not to hook or try to curve the ball but to spin it. (So you get to pronation sooner and protect your arm). Faster spin has opposite effect on curve. It’s why he even points out the guys with the better curves had the slower spin rate. You have to find the sweet spot of late break vs big break. Big sweeping vs tight drop.
@Twins22R4 жыл бұрын
@@scottlesage9846 Yes, the most important thing to get a big break is having the axis perpendicular to the path of the baseball. Axis parallel to flight path is a bullet spin or football spiral. So spin rate that is higher but parallel won't curve as much as low spin perpendicular. Therefore, hand position at release is more important than spin rate. What makes a bullet spin an effective pitch is throwing it above 85mph. Rob Nen threw his over 90mph so it actually broke slightly to the hand side and sharply down. Bullets don't fly straight. They follow a corkscrew path. You won't get a baseball to do this unless it is around 90mph and above. Any slower and that is what we call a cement mixer, a hanger, a home run for the batter.
@gretchman6 жыл бұрын
STOP. STOP. Okay... now forwar-STOP. Bring it forwa-NOW STOP. See that?? Go... STOP!!! Now go... now STOP. STOP IT. THERE. GO BACK. STOP. See that? Okay go.
@kevinmcgrath68736 жыл бұрын
See that dirt on the ball there? BACK UP BACK UP! That's not dirt, it's the words on the ball...go ahead. Move it- move it forward STOP RIGHT THERE! See the dirt spinning there? See that? Just like a Sandy Koufa-STOP STOP!! RIGHT THERE!!
@sblagg5276 жыл бұрын
He should be a storm chaser
@scottlesage98465 жыл бұрын
I’m positive he’s never even played before.. all he got right in the last 15 minutes was the more spin, the bigger the break.
@jeremy7455 жыл бұрын
Lol he has played.. He was actually a good starting pitcher and a 2x allstar do ur research
@Okay-jc9gw5 жыл бұрын
gretchman %
@PeachBeef2 жыл бұрын
Should not be surprised that Al’s son is one of the best pitching prospects ever!
@mustardketchup5 жыл бұрын
A free pitching clinic on the art and science of the curveball from Al Leiter, who had a great slow curve himself. Love his passion for the game. Thanks
@0neFamily6 жыл бұрын
The reason Kershaw's curve is so dirty despite average spin rate is due to the over hand release. You don't need exceptional spin at that angle because the break is naturally complemented by gravity.
@abro71893 жыл бұрын
Do you know Christ
@0neFamily3 жыл бұрын
@@abro7189 Sure do. Though it seems very strange to ask on a 2 year old post on a video completely unrelated to faith. 🤨
@abro71893 жыл бұрын
@@0neFamily ik
@chef423 Жыл бұрын
To bad he cant win in the Post Season!
@mike-0451 Жыл бұрын
@@0neFamily Nothing is unrelated to faith, but this is the most annoying way to go about saying it.
@nukefizzix992 жыл бұрын
5:30 makes a bit more sense in context of the sticky icky that everyone has been using recently
@bradh61854 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating for someone like me who isn't a hardcore fan. Stuff like this will make me one. Someone hit the jackpot with this Leiter guy. Been watching several of these.
@gregporter86355 жыл бұрын
Most interesting delivery analysis I've seen in 40 years
@JanoyCresva6 жыл бұрын
I love this shit man. I used to be just a football and basketball guy. But my kid is starting coach pitch next year and i loved coaching his football team so much that i'll coach his baseball and the art in baseball is what intrigues me. People say its boring and i used to think so but there is ZERO boring in this video. Great stuff.
@cjr18814 жыл бұрын
Janoy Cresva Yeah, go ahead and coach a sport you know nothing about. You can just make a duck face.
@mrrusty19654 жыл бұрын
so much info, your kid can learn so much faster than we did. Hope he learns 3 solid pitches as we all know that Edwin Diaz only has 2 which showed with his 6.0 ERA
@Twins22R4 жыл бұрын
Go for it. Don't let the internet experts discourage you. Coaching is more than having technical knowledge. And many coaches who claim to are just following conventional wisdom that in many cases is just garbage. "Swing down on the ball leading with the knob of the bat". "Keep the barrel of the bat above the hands until contact". "Turn doorknob to curve the ball". GARBAGE! In the Kershaw video watch his hand pronate when he releases the ball. Same as a fastball. The curve is hand position, not hand movement or trying to spin it.
@AJEDDY973 жыл бұрын
cjr1881 god forbid a parent be involved in their kid’s life, right? 🙄🙄
@u2zero2u3 жыл бұрын
@@AJEDDY97 How did you get anything like he thinks a parent should not be involved in their kids life? He was talking about coaching kids on a sport he said he knows little about. If you don't know much about a particular sport you shouldn't be a coach in that sport especially a coach of kids in that sport. Baseball has a possibility of being dangerous so if you are a coach on a kids team you should know what you are doing.
@jeffwilliams28283 жыл бұрын
“See the dark spot? It’s dirt...” 2021 says hello
@kenelyon7956 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. Really like Leiter. Great teacher. Fun to watch. Love his excitement. If MLB would give people more of this during games they'd really help themselves. Here is why. I'll share the testimony of a friend of mine who doesn't like baseball but happened upon a 2-2 game with some college teams local to us. He tried to watch the ending. But they kept halting the game with mound visits and switching pitchers and all that so that he finally got tired of waiting to see how it ended and he just turned off the television and went to bed. Now people can say what they want to in response but this is what he testified so MLB and other baseball venues can either ignore it and say, "Eh, whatever, we don't need him as a fan - he's not a real fan," or they can attempt to do something to change it in order to draw in more people like him.
@JammastaJ236 жыл бұрын
This is the best mlb breaking ball segment I've ever seen. Great stuff 👍
@gregthegroove5 жыл бұрын
I love MLB analytics. It really amazes me that MLB adds analytics almost all the time. 30 years ago we looked at average, RBI and homers. Look at now. I wonder what crazy analytics they’ll invent over the next 30 years.
@russyurk81995 жыл бұрын
Love the passion of the science of pitching.
@gregthegroove4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that the video guy is still there trying to forward, going back, forward again, back, go forward, back......someone please help him by getting him some food and water. 🙏🏻
@mrtomh5 жыл бұрын
I learned more from this video than all the other pitching videos I watched before it, combined. A lot of them just talk about the pitches. It was really helpful for me to see the slow motion with the helpful descriptions and comparisons. I'm just trying to catch up on coaching my youth pitchers, and this helps.
@RossKnows4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m not mistaken but Koufax also pitched before they lowered the mount after Bob Gibson’s obscene season. Imagine how much nastier the higher mound made that pitch.
@jackrumsey34006 жыл бұрын
I love listening to Al Leiter talk shop.
@JamesSmith-dm9wx2 жыл бұрын
Al Leiter is the best at what he does. This is just amazing.
@jamesickes97444 жыл бұрын
Love Al's enthusiasm!👍🏼
@mikeflippo6273 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Great breakdown of different techniques.
@danacoleman40075 жыл бұрын
Always love me some Al Leiter!
@weekendsonlyy39476 жыл бұрын
I love these vids so much great info
@BloomsProductions5 жыл бұрын
I just got interested in baseball recently because of the commentary..... Now, slowly falling in love with the sport... these videos are great for helping me learn and also appreciated the sport of Baseball
@americanfresh172 жыл бұрын
Great Segment Very Knowledgeable
@BenJumpman896 жыл бұрын
Great segment
@parsifal400022 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video about the curveball and spin rates! Al Leiter is one of the best to present this video. Love the man!! Baseball is my absolute favorite sport!!
@VenomousStare4 жыл бұрын
Love the bits about Sandy.
@charleswagner17244 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
@monkeytrollhunter4 жыл бұрын
Al is a great guy. He's got class. He appreciates the fans, he knows professional sports won't exist without them and he does his best to the fans. He's got such a fan-satisfaction oriented mindset. Such a great guy and a role model as for being a great human being.
@BillMcGirr4 жыл бұрын
Very cool breakdown. Awesome video.👍
@DeElSendero5 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Very informative and Al really gets into it!!
@bbo17793 жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved the Koufax one!
@mrrusty19654 жыл бұрын
only wish when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, KZfaq was around. I had to read a Nolan Ryan book with pictures of how to throw a 12-6 curveball. Can't wait to watch this tomorrow on my UHD tv.
@blackandyellow874 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown!
@albertjang69456 жыл бұрын
This is great stuff!
@sammcpherson69694 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown so helpful
@bryanmills43896 жыл бұрын
So cool thank Al!
@AntonelliBaseball5 жыл бұрын
McCullers can really spin it!
@htxthewild55535 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@abro71893 жыл бұрын
Do you know Christ
@ShawnGisler3 жыл бұрын
@@abro7189 I hope
@alcaldealer85155 жыл бұрын
Love mlb networks breakdowns Thanks for the content
@shawn19283 жыл бұрын
Love Al's enthusiam
@aidansheehan94926 жыл бұрын
My favorite pitcher in the AL by far
@TheToxicity6 жыл бұрын
Stop right there!
@nicholas1044 жыл бұрын
Now back up
@flyingdutch98185 жыл бұрын
YES! On point for young pitchers
@imyourfarmer92152 жыл бұрын
We just need a spider tac ad while al catches his breath.
@DaaimShabazz5 жыл бұрын
I was a right-hander and threw my curve like Kershaw (more of the 11 o'clock angle). I used finger pressure to keep the ball steady and allowed the ball roll over my index finger as I followed through. I had about 11-5 motion. I got incredible spin, but the other key was using the legs for stability and bringing arm across body with a nice follow through. Against right-handers I would aim at their left shoulder. Against left-handers, I went to back door curve at the corner.
@antonioduverge35586 жыл бұрын
I loved it!
@TimTheMusicMan2 жыл бұрын
And 3 years later, its the number one topic..
@keenanurock45596 жыл бұрын
lol Kluber's face at 6:53.
@multiversossaltamontes73742 жыл бұрын
Leiter is a Marlin's legend.
@elli0036 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. Thanks MLB Network.
@dingledangle2655 жыл бұрын
Al is very passionate.. I like that..he has a very limp pointer stick which is a bit disappointing
@Tarmoil6 жыл бұрын
Huh, that was INTENSE!
@moisesledesma26075 жыл бұрын
The school of ⚾ with Al Leiter
@jkk29403 жыл бұрын
10:02 some brown stuff on tip of middle finger and inside of thumb as he rotates wrist
@graysonshaver64935 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@BrockMak5 жыл бұрын
3:44 An even more important principle in cricket as a spin bowler, because you also need to think about beating the batsmen in flight and after the bounce, and Sandy Koufax got it.
@247inyaface6 жыл бұрын
Well done
@davanmani5565 жыл бұрын
How come no one has interviewed Sandy Koufax about this or Mike Marshall?
@davida12513 жыл бұрын
I was a pretty good lefty pitcher in my youth. But I never had a coach teach me how to throw a curve ball. I thought you had to snap your wrist and it didn't work for me. Thanks Al, better late than never
@alberthaust45426 жыл бұрын
Good video, "stop, stop, stop..." is what he said to teams that hit him well.
@odessaangels5 жыл бұрын
12 to 6 curve drop is what they are throwing...., I used to throw a back door inside to 3 with no sinking action. Cool stuff how each pitcher is different and everyone’s pitches are slightly different.
@jander564 жыл бұрын
This video made my arm hurt 😂
@degenz23575 жыл бұрын
Fucking love Leiter's excitement for this.
@PinkStarburst7174 жыл бұрын
Al and dro are the man
@Kane-ib5sn6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the Jays hire Al Leiter as their pitching coach? - instead, Pete Walker...? insane.
@bigpapadaddyo69373 жыл бұрын
I would love to see him analyze Dan Quisenberry and Randy Johnson.
@JohnJohnson-dj2dv5 жыл бұрын
Are the higher spin rates the most effective? What I'm asking is does a great curve/slider depend on max spin? or is a slightly slower spin going to move more? Has anyone done some investigation on that?
@lb24554 жыл бұрын
I feel like Leiter was explain the JFK magic bullet theory to me during the Verlander segment, lol...squinting at the dirt....Great stuff though, his enthusiasm is infectious. Great Work LUKE!! I picture poor Luke like an unpaid intern sweating over the controlboard, Leiter just like OOH KLUBER, STOP BACK UP BACK UP!
@Tman564 жыл бұрын
Luke should get an easy $100 bonus from Al for the holidays every time he has to stop and rewind, really does his job well.
@elnesto4085 жыл бұрын
He was making a good point up until the end when he was cut off. Too bad, good little "clinic" for the nubes.
@SK-uu2fg5 жыл бұрын
so basically, spin rate helps but it's hardly everything when it comes to throwing an effective breaking pitch
@AmericasChoice5 жыл бұрын
Placement and mixing in other pitches.
@Twins22R4 жыл бұрын
Tom "Flash" Gordon had the best spin axis I ever saw from a right hander. Don't think they measured rate back then. Always puzzled as to why he didn't dominate more.
@user21444 жыл бұрын
That looks like a 219" Samsung MicroLED display. Anyone have any info on this?
@calebjaquetteTX4 жыл бұрын
The 2019 Houston Astros have a chance at Being one of the greatest teams in major-league baseball history... I’m a Houston Astros Fan Die Hard so you obviously think I’m gonna say this, but think about this... HOU has a chance to have: -AL MVP(Alex Bergman) -AL Cy Young(Justin Verlander & Gerrit Cole should each get one) -AL Rookie of the Year(Yordan Alvarez) -Manager of the Year(AJ Hinch) && MOST IMPORTANT: 106 WINS, maybe 107 if they can pull out the final regular season game. BEST PITCHING STAFF EVER BEST OFFENSE EVER MOST ATHLETIC(Ya I said it) MOST “FUTURE” MVPS on one single team 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 Let’s do this H-Town
@dfgccgggff79634 жыл бұрын
It will be so funny if you guys pissed away the series to the rays or twins or something lol
@calebjaquetteTX4 жыл бұрын
Dfgcc Gggff appreciate what your seeing homeboy. This is Greatness. && we will see who’s laughing when October’s over 🤘🏼 See I’m rooting for MY TEAM to build a dynasty All Yall are rooting against MY TEAM. What about YOUR TEAM? You a Rangers fan? Tigers? 😂😂 🤘🏼H Town On Top🤘🏼
@brandonriordan28374 жыл бұрын
From a red sox fan :,(
@jackhoffman8956 жыл бұрын
Love to see Chris Sales slider broken down
@pascalrouen3 жыл бұрын
"STOP" "OKAY GO.. STOP" chill bro
@johnjasinski42162 жыл бұрын
start and finish line, spin axis, launch angle and ball speed
@jayare21166 жыл бұрын
This guy is way too fucking intense lmaoooooo
@ThekiBoran Жыл бұрын
How many actual spins between release and glove pop?
@AmericasChoice5 жыл бұрын
Koufax. GOAT
@CarlosPerez-pl5cg5 жыл бұрын
6:52 Kluber's O face...LOL!
@htxthewild55535 жыл бұрын
LMJ is the Curvballer right now
@frankieselback43005 жыл бұрын
6:57 you’re welcome for that image
@vektacular2 жыл бұрын
Al use to be a great pitcher in my time!
@aidanwong48584 жыл бұрын
6:55 I’m dying of laugheer
@1975MGB6 жыл бұрын
Seth Lugo of the Mets spun one at 3498 & as far as I know no one has topped that. He has the highest average spin rate in MLB
@stevend.bennett4274 жыл бұрын
What was Tim Wakefield's spin rate?
@Twins22R4 жыл бұрын
Axis of spin in relation to flight path Seams on ball affecting Bernoulli principle Velocity of pitch All factors that combine to create movement. Further study required.
@AWPtical8005 жыл бұрын
6:53 lmfao that face tho
@joonsup6 жыл бұрын
can someone give the man a remote control so he can control the video? sheesh
@gocubs18155 жыл бұрын
Al needs to teach a Master Class or something...
@ZM-ij2hx3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be a heater
@Athlete19902 жыл бұрын
Respect to Kershaw. He clearly doesn’t need to use anything
@Tigerpuffer5 жыл бұрын
I can throw a slider because of this video.
@ibrahimkhalif835 жыл бұрын
How can you y’all curve ball and not bring up Doc Gooden? One of her greatest curveballs ever.