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First of all Z650rs is overpriced. Looks nice but shouldn't be over 8k. Cfmoto is just going to get bigger. New riders are going to get a 300nk/450nk/450ss as a beginner bike have a good experience and stay in the cfmoto ecosystem. The Big 4 need to open their eyes

I own a 2023 CFMoto 450ss. It’s my first bike. Sometimes I’ll just go in my garage just to look at it because it’s that cool looking.

Enfield also knows the "build it cool looking and affordable" I understand it's working well for them hehe

I picked up an 800nk for me and a 300nk for my wife a couple weeks ago. One of the best purchases ive made. Less then 13k for 2 bikes, both are a blast to ride and seem as well put together as any of my japanese bikes have been.

Looks like West Taiwan is starting to make some pretty interesting bikes

As someone looking in to grabbing a smaller displacement "fun bike" the Zx4-RR is extremely attractive...but that price is painful. If the 500SR sits at a nicer price point, I'd be disgustingly tempted to pick one up. (Assuming they even make it to the US)

I was certainly skeptical in 2022 when I bought my first CFMOTO. After two years of ownership, I'm convinced. CFMOTO is here to stay and its market share will increase for the reasons you stated in your video. CFMOTO makes an excellent product at a value price. There will be other CFMOTOS in my future.

I can't believe CF Moto is the first to come up with those intake-style halos on a bike.

450srs owner here and its been amazing ever since i got it 😊

I am on my second CFMoto bike. The problem I have with CFMOTO is that as soon as I get a cool bike they bring out something cooler 😮 Looks like I will need to stay with them for a while now.

Wanna see that 450 motor in a supermoto next.

You hit the nail on the head. Let’s be realistic. The A2 restriction much as I loathe the idea of restrictions in general is well thought out. 48 hp is more than enough to get a bike up to speed and break every speed limit in the country. The Honda 500 CC parallel twin engine is widely panned as one of the least exciting engines available in the small displacement market. As the owner of a CB 500 X I can attest that that statement is 100% accurate. Regardless, even with my 300 pound when fully geared ass on it, the bike easily hits 90 miles an hour according to the GPS. As riders we don’t actually need 100+ horsepower bikes. I own three of them, but I don’t kid myself that those bikes need 100 hp. Although it certainly does help the Goldwing get out of its own way at 900 pounds. For the majority of riders, just looking to get out on two wheels and have a good time with a bike that looks nice and has a reasonable degree of modern technology, the current offerings from the big four are actually pretty awful. Seriously why do I need to pay $15,000 to get into a bike with cruise control? The CLX 700 has cruise standard and you can buy last year‘s model all day long for 4500 bucks (5500 bucks out the door with all the dealer fees) I’m an old man so I could give a shit about phone integration, but I understand that people under the age of 50 do care about that kind of thing and all of CF Moto lineup offers it . Were I in the market for a new bike I have a really hard time, not walking into the nearest CF Moto dealership and giving them my money.

Spite, I bought a new CF Moto 650 Adventura two years ago. I have rolled up 25K miles on it. I'm on my third chain, 2nd set of sprockets, and my 3rd set of tires. It's a Timex.

That's a nice Beau of the Column shout out

new fun news segments woo! i like. motorcycle gossip is always fun. so many people looked at the CF Moto papio design and begged for a full size version of it and CFMoto listened! they're listening to their consumers they're making those changes they're building the things that people want and they're not resting on their reputation to sell their motorcycles they're building cool shit and selling it because it's cool.

I really like this new format and I look forward to more videos like it

CFMOTO from the looks of it is taking shots to the bow of the Big 4. Between the 500SR and 675SR-R there's one company they seem to have direct aim at, Kawasaki. Love the format by the way. Sometimes it's nice to have a sit down chat.

On the speed question I assume the average motorcycle owner isn’t really interested in massive speeding tickets or running from the police. “Oh no! My bike can only go 110 MPH!!”

My 450SS has honestly been one of the best purchases I've ever made. It has looks that gets people asking questions, a devilishly good exhaust note, flickable weight, and high tech user friendly features for the price. It is easily the best beginner bike on the market by far.

Cfmoto also have a cruiser with the 450 engine, the clc 450. Belt drive, usd fork, comes with bar end mirrors from factory, dual exhaust that sounds *chef’s kiss*.

CFMOTO has finally arrived. Just bought a 450MT and loving it.

Brand new rider this year and I was between a Ninja 500 and 650 until I found a CLX 700 for comparable pricing. So far no regrets on my purchase it’s such a handsome bike. With how much I’ve rode so far I probably would’ve been bored of the 500 by now

really happy to see so many people like cfmoto,in China you can see cf's bikes everywhere and it's the most common brand.I've owned 3 cfmotos from 150nk,400nk and I just got a 800nk.since I get 800nk the only thing I use is street mode instead of sport mode because I think I don't need that fast,I need is just a cool bike but not a fast one.

The style of the video was nice I like the format and definitely the length you got straight to the point thank you for that

Living in Greece with way shorter commutes than almost anywhere else in the world, it actually makes more sense to get a smaller (under 900cc) bike and with that in mind I am all for getting a CFmoto which is much cheaper that the rest. Currently got my eyes on a 450 MT but that 500SR is a beauty.

I has a face that makes it look like it goes "AHHHHHH" as you drive by. I can't stop seeing this, haha.

My cfmoto was great. Had no issues. Eventually, i moved to a cruiser, but i still have respect for them, and i would get another.

Lovely! Reminds me of my old GSXR400RR. Those days the 400cc supersports were literally downsized replicas of the 750 supersports. The trouble with these inline 4 pocket rockets was that there was absolutely nothing below 6000rpm, you had to keep the engine on the boil all the time. Plenty fun though.

I had a 700CL-X Heritage, and now have an 800NK Advanced (we get the upgraded model here in Australia) in my garage, alongside a VT750C Shadow. Been very happy with both CFMotos, despite 20 years of owning Japanese bikes. If they bring the 500SR over here, I'd seriously consider one as a commuter. Doubly so if they bring out a larger capacity version of it.

My thoughts are the video was nice, fast paced, engaging I’ts nice to see what your channel has become. Keep going ❤

Spite, love your content. I would recommend a way to ground your camera/audio setup to prevent the static noise.

I'll give them one thing, I freaking love that teal blue color they've been using. If they put it on the 800 Ibex I'd be halfway tempted.

I want one. It looks so freaking cool man. And it doesnt sound like it will be boring to ride

Think you nailed it. The euro and japanese makers think low cc = budget model. People have been screaming for an updated drz400 or a wr400r from Yamaha. Instead Suzuki updated the vstrom 650 to a 800 and doubled the price 🤦‍♂️

One of the pluses with CFMoto is I have heard their offices (in the US) actively seek out feedback so that they can make the changes that the consumer wants. That's part of the reason you've seen the rapid changes in offerings from them. They already know how to manufacture given their ATV experience and partnership with KTM. Now they are making the connection with consumers in order to grow. And yes price matters also. It doesn't really matter Where something is made when Honda is making their small bikes in Thailand, Brazil and India, and apparently have longevity issues with the small bikes. It's a global market now, so just get the best bang for your buck, whether it's Royal Enfield, CFMoto, or one of the more est brands... but be aware that many "established" brands are farming out bikes to other companies anyway (like BMW using TVS, and KTM partner with CFMoto).

Many times, less is more. Thanks for one of the best videos you've made in a long time. Happy 4th!

This bike is / looks incredible. CFMoto is changing the game for sure. It's on my list

$10k is an important price point. anybody with a job can wrangle up $10k without their wife getting too mad.

2022 CFmoto clx-700 sport owner here, nearly 2k miles in and loving every single mile. Out the door well under 7 grand brand new

First time I came across your channel and I liked it. Short to the point and no BS, so I subscribed. I drive bikes for more than fifty years and yes they are too expensive, I don't pay more than 10.000 euro for a bike. Now I am looking at the new Triumph Speed 400 or the CFMoto NK450 or one of Voge.

After months of research for best bang for buck i went to get a 450ss as a first bike, I saw a clx 700 and fell in love and got it! 4 months and 2,000 miles later i feel like i couldn't have made a better choice for the under 5k price!

I own a CFmoto 650GT and let me tell you: I'm very happy with my purchase ❤, I love that bike. Yes, it's a bit heavy to daily it but that's a bonus when when you're on the open road and it's also not that fast (fully loaded it will do 180kmh/111mph, without top case and bags 200kmh/124mph) but I wasn't looking for a super fast bike anyway! I wanted a mid-cc that I could daily, looked cool and that I could take for long rides comfortably! ...and I got it $60K MXN ($3,300-ish USD) cheaper than a Versys 650!!

I like this style of video! Nice, condensed, straight to the point. Good b-roll placement too. Good work mr Spite

CFMoto is the Hyundai of the 2 wheel world. When you can’t rest on your laurels, you have to make cool stuff to be competitive.

Love my Ibex!!! Wanted a Triumph Tiger but have everything I want in the Ibex and save like $8k

It's important to factor in that whilst CF Moto are doing a great job of showing up the big brands when it comes to value, remember that KTM, CF MOTO, Husqvarna, MV Augusta and Gas Gas are all part of the same parent company - PIERER MOBILITY AG. This is a good move for a number of reasons; - They can share platforms, engines and components out a larger variety of parts bins - They can cross design languages - As they are owned by a single parent company, they can manage their diversification of the product easier and it not affect profits. - As they are a consolidated group of manufacturers they have a bigger economy of scale, which ultimately means they can pass savings (if they chose to), on to the customer. Its a clever strategy, whilst people see a single brand and may tie themselves to that brand for a time, they are actually supporting the other brands in the group as well. I will definitely be looking at the bigger output bikes CF Moto bring out in the future, in particular the new "Daytona" killer, - 675SR-R... what Triumph should've made.

I hope it's offered in the US. I'd buy it in an instant. Awesome job with the design.

I sold my r3 and starting to save for the 675sr can't wait for it to come out

Love this. I ride a 24 MT09 but also just bought a papio SS and the thing makes me giggle every time I ride it. Gets so many looks on the road

This 500SR Voom maybe making it to the US market. CF Moto Mexico is already running advertisements for this bike.

I have the 800MT Explore brand new and LOVE IT we also have the 400EPS quad for the farm

That being said, if I was at home in Canada the price of CFmotos make no sense and you can’t get QJ’s or Benellie motorcycles so I would definitely go with one of the Japanese big 4. I think you have to consider your local situation as a big part of your motorcycle purchase .

I have a 22 clx 700 sport and I can’t stop looking at it

Please throw that 450 twin in a supermoto chassis. That thing would sell like crazy.

The styling on the Voom is awesome. It genuinely looks like a custom build. I just wish it was smaller capacity to keep the weight down so that flickability matches the looks.

When the dealer network is fleshed out, and if the reliability is high, they'll sell a ton of bikes. They see the hole in the market they can fill. Love the intro, caught the reference!

If this voom engine is anything like the ZX-4RR it's definitely not underpowered. They have over 70hp that's about the same as the CP2 engines from Yamaha, but they deliver it in the higher rev range. I absolutely loved the ZX-4RR. Awesome bike, the Voom is similar but with cooler design.

They really missed the chance to call it ”Vroom”!

I have never preferred the look of multiple exhaust outlets before, but dam does the dual exhaust look nice on that bike

nice, cfmoto have some great deals on the cl700x sport etc in the uk selling at £4999 down from £6500.

My wife has been riding a CFMoto 650NK for a few years now, and that bike has been great. It talked me into getting my 800NK when it was released. They're really good bikes so far.

Kawasackie.. bro

My first bike was a Kawasaki Z250, and for community and town riding you don’t really need anything bigger. That Zoom looks fresh.

We want cheap and lightweight bikes. CFMoto is a high contender for that.

If the price is right and they seem reliable i would be interested in one for my next toy. I wouldn't be worried about resale on something like this.

Thought I'd clicked on one of Beau's videos when I heard that intro lol

As a ninja 400 owner, can’t wait for CF Moto 450 MT to arrive. My wish was always to have a Versys with a little bit more power than the current 300’s. KLR’s single would be hard for my 80% freeway rides. Just need a comfortable, simple, cheap to mantain but keeping some fun into the mix. Used to own also the CBR 600F4i back in the days! Now rather keep my temptations to ride too fast at bay.

A 500 four is a good idea, lots of smooth hp.

hello spike, I think it's nice to have companies like CF MOTO that give a breath of freshness to motorcycles and not stick to one shape because then production is cheaper which, as you mentioned in the video, doesn't necessarily translate into price. Over the last few years, only KTM has been different than everyone else, and recently they joined it suzuki work the sharper features . I believe that CF MOTO, with its apricots and prices, will attract the attention of many motorcyclists who will want to have their motorcycle. 😎🤜🤛

I have a papio ss and it’s been such a kick mini moto I’m going to get a 300 ss now too.

It's outrageous that all main manufacturers only seem to target horsepower when making new bikes, they increase capacity to keep getting gains in spite of the increased restrictions (like bikes that in most European countries can be used only half a year at best will produce a lot of pollution) and consequently increase price to keep getting a profit.

Manufacturers DO NOT HAVE TO tune small fours to make power at 15,000 rpm. They could tune a small four to turn out STOUT torque at lower RPM. It's all in way the manufacturer sets it up. It's all in the tuning. Again. It's all in the tuning. I for one think that a small four cylinder that has a redline of say... 9 or 10k but churns out rich torque right off the line, would be sweet. Smooth, strong, and more fuel efficient. Longer stroke for starters, small throttlebodies and valves, high intake velocity, it would fill cylinders quickly at low revs and turn out the torque that wouldn't have someone waiting for something to happen. You could work on the sound of the engine. Old air-cooled fours from Japanese bikes back in the 70's and 80's which weren't big engines, sounded pretty cool.

I like the discussion, but this video seemed more like a continuation of the "bikes are too expensive now" video vs an actual discussion of the 500SR, which is what the video seems like it is going to be. We love your style, Spite, but the content of the video should be more in line with the thumbnail.

Bro, I will re-live my days with a Genesis 600 with this bike 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 Isn’t it absolutely awesome?

feedback for Spite: shorter videos = good. I skip a lot of videos due to length. You can cover pretty much any single topic in depth within 8-12 minutes.

Beau of the fifth column is a good influence. :-)

I feel like CF Moto is doing the same thing that Honda did early on, but they are doing it faster. That 500SR is going places. (Maybe even my garage)

I know the Adventura uses the Kawasaki 650 based motor. But I thought the CL bikes used a KTM based motor. Part of the reasoning is that they have cruise control which is not on the Kawasaki or the Adventura because they don't have throttle by wire.

I agree with you that others in the industry ignore CFmoto (and a few other Chinese manufacturers) at their peril. I was considering a CFmoto nk450 and Ninja 400, but ended up going with a lightly used QJ srkr550 (aka Benellie Tornado 552R). While at first I was not completely happy with it, I did some minor adjustments and got the rear shock preload adjusted to my weight (220 lbs/100Kg), adjusted the clutch free play and lever position and removed the giant crash bars the previous owner put on for some more reasonable (smaller) drop bars. Now I’m very satisfied with the motorcycle. I got 60 hp, dual disk front brakes 270 crank, KYB (semi- adjustable) suspension for a lot less than a Ninja 400 and the same price was an nk450 in this market. While some minor adjustment (not repair) was needed, if you can buy a bike from a reputable dealer in your area that can access parts and take care of any small issues/adjustment, than I think a brand like CFmoto represents really good value. If there are no dealers or a way to get parts (if you’re handy at wrenching) then I would still go with a more established brand. At the very least, the traditional players have to watch their game to make sure they stay competitive.

Unless something bad turns up I am buying the Voomski

We are in a strange alternate timeline where "primer" is a factory finish. Remember your whole life, when primer was not actually a factory car color? One day, dozens of vehicles were suddenly primer grey, and primer tan. Just awful.

CF Moto been on my radar since they brought the 300ss to the states. Im still heavily considering buying a 450ss as my first sport bike. It looks cool as heck, has great specs and tech and a pretty reasonable price. Oh and if i get one ill definitely be switching to the GP shifting mode.

CF Moto is putting all the other manufacturers on notice. I suspect the 450 MT is going to dominate, and the Voom is going to reignite the 4 cylinder small displacement class.

You've got a ground loop somewhere; I can hear it. HumX eliminators and in-line ground loop isolators will do the trick. The latter is significantly more reasonable a solution.

I love the look of the 500 but I’m holding out for the 675 release

Love my 650nk, got a new 2023 for 5k out the door. 👌🏻great content

I do appreciate this conversational style video. I do agree that CF Moto bike looks interesting, and yes, we all don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a bike. T-700 is a nice sweet spot for me

I feel like that about my mt-10 - always checking her out

I've been skeptical of CFMoto but the 500 SR Voom is too nice to ignore. I want that bike so bad.

If Honda brought out a new CB400 4cyl or similar I'd get one for commuting. Such a great bike.

Waiting for the 450mt, big 4 are really missing out on the smaller displacement ADV segment. CFmoto are really hitting hard.

Like the Grisso more then the glasses. And that even rhymes! 😁

Over 2k miles on a 450ss by my son. He still loves it and it out performed the ninja400 for less money.

If they made a 100 Hp version of it it'd be at the top of my list. Such a cool looking bike.

I like this style of video its cool quick and to the point

The 500SR that is shown on video is NOT a production model. It is custom work by Voom Concept. Also, if this is imported to the US and Europe, it will be restricted in terms of horsepower - just like Japanese bikes. Instead of Kawasaki 400, this bike should be compared to Honda CBR500 series. Due to emission and safety requirement, it will be nerfed in the US and Euro market. If such restriction wasn’t available, we will be all be happier with Japanese bikes.

The old saying of "Fast, Cheap, Quality - Pick 2" , CFMOTO is saying hold my beer.

Awesome comparison 👍 I knew a lil wee bit about the cf moto’s and the advertising push , but there is quite an exceptional value in these various 2 wheeled machines , but it’s good to see that they are not completely junky ❤❤❤

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