What's your pick? The R9T for some off road flair and cruiser vibes, or the Guzzi for a neo-retro sport tourer with some dirt road chops?

I hope Whitney becomes a regular contributor to Spite's Corner. Spite doesn't seem threatened by allowing other people to shine unlike you know who.

Whitney and Spite have so much chemistry.. I love watching them chill and talk bikes.

Spite and Whitney Absolutely Rule!!!!!!!!!!

I love my V85TT. It’s way better than I needed it to be. Thoroughly enjoyed a 6800 mile ride through 22 states this year on it. It’s a competent Swiss Army knife multi tool of a motorcycle. It does more than 1 thing & does them all well.

I love Whitney's attitude. -- I don't want a motorcycle that makes me think, "This is the pinnacle of engineering and I am connected to road and machine." -- I want a motorcycle that makes me think, "What the hell were these guys thinking?

I had an Africa Twin… made the mistake of riding a V85TT… a few weeks later it was in my driveway.

Whitney's here! Excellent. Whitney and Spite's ride reviews from the [other channel which shall not be named...] were always entertaining and informative. Glad to see the team back together.

Guzzis are an acquired taste...they are not a sport bike from a Japanese manufacturer,but the modern day retro from Italy...I personally think they are doing great things....

The V85TT is not dad jeans, it’s the cool grandpa that no one expects did some crazy shit in his 20s.

Bought a v85tt early this year. Within a couple of months I'd taken it from the UK, through Spain and over the Alps to its home in Mandello for a photo at the Moto Guzzi gate. The bike just makes you feel good.

Sold my Beemer and got 85tt , very satisfied :)

I bought a 2020 V85 Travel on a whim and was very pleasantly surprised. Unless you need to feel your eyes pushed back into the back of your head power, the V85 will put a smile on your face. It’s not a race bike-it’s an air-cooled 850 with shaft drive! However…… Get rid of the cat with a y pipe and it sounds pretty darn good. Add an angostini or mistral pipe with a mild tune and you’ll have a hard time keeping from wrapping the throttle. Still won’t win any races but you’ll have lots of fun. The bike actually handles better than you’d expect.

"there is something very Italian refrigeratory about it" maybe the greatest comparison ever uttered about a motorcycle!

Thanks! So I bought a 2022 V85TT Guardia D'Onore. You reinforced my decision.

Really glad you guys got the V85 instead of the RE as I actually just placed an order for the V85 earlier this week! Keep up the great content!

Really enjoyed this video as a v85tt owner who almost bought an r9t. Bring back Whitney when possible. She adds a valuable and interesting perspective.

Moto Guzzi for sure. My son has the V7 Stone, which has the same engine, and I am looking at the V85tt. Just nice motorcycles. Fun, simple, reliable, efficient, and well styled machines. They just put a smile on your face every time you ride it; the way motorcycling was supposed to be.

Oh sick, Spite's got a friend. Good to see he found someone with a personality for a change. Happy new year mate, looking forward to watching your journey through 2023!

Very cool video as I actually have these two bikes in my garage. The R9T is the equivalent of a sports car (reminds me of a Porche) sexy, lots of torque and very fast with a stiff suspension. The V85 is just a great all-around bike. Enough power for town rides and highways, capable enough off-road to get you through dirt roads without issues, its good looking and most important for me it’s super comfortable. Like Spike said “A couch on 2-wheels”. My favorite hands down: the V85TT.

I got my 2020 TT85 from AF1. Love it. I am not a hard core speed rider and just love the way it handles. Such a beauty to look at as well. Great video

What a treat to see Whitney again! I really enjoy the banter back and forth between you two and hope there will be more of this. I do like the looks of the Moto Guzzi but that’s just me liking odd things. 1950’s Italian refrigerator 😂

Definitely the Moto Guzzi for me. I will be 68 in March and am 6'5" 280Lbs with a 32" inseam. Living in South Dakota, we have a fair amount of unpaved roads and a lot of miles between major towns and cities. Long distance comfort, good road manners, and a high MPG are a must out here. I already own a Victory Vision Tour which is a great mile muncher, but at 900lbs a little much for running around town and a little hairy on dirt and gravel. The Guzzi would be a great second motorcycle for both commuting and as a back up bike for long trips. The down side is that the nearest dealer is about 150 miles away as the crow flies. Thanks for the fair review,

The Guzzi is a really special bike, nothing like it.

Nice to see you guys together again ! Great comparison. The motoguzzi seems like a good alternative to other adv / sports touring options.

What the V85TT lacks in outright grunt compared to a Stelvio or GS, it makes up for in feeling lighter and more nimble. One of the best handling motorcycles I’ve owned.

To all you newer riders, especially the younger ones: I just got back from a 1 hour ride on a Kawasaki VN 750 cruiser on twisty, hilly, mountainous gravel roads on the Foothills near Skyline Drive. More challenging than the off-road sections showed in the video. My advice is don't spend anymore than you would need to get a Himalayan; in fact you can spend half as much. If you're going to do a lot of off-road work get a dual purpose bike between a 250 and a 650. But even on gravel roads more challenging than the ones shown here I had a great time on my Vulcan 750. And I own a TW200, XT225, and the DR650. (Now I'm not recommending any other cruiser, and I've had a lot.) Use the $6-7,000 you'll save for trips gear and time off work. I've been riding since 1975 and have over two dozen bikes. Do yourself a favor and listen to an old man looking out for you!

You guys nailed this review. I love my new V85TT.

Always awesome to see Whitney on the channel! Great bikes to feature. Happy New Year!

So cool to see Whitney on the channel. She's so down to Earth and sweet.

Awesome to see Whitney you two work so well together...hope she becomes a more permanent contributor

I put the taller windscreen on my v85tt and with the bags I love it. It does everything good.

Whitney is such a lively and entertaining partner for spite. They really work together well

Love the dual-host setup here. Also wonderful to see Whitney on your channel!

I'm glad Moto Guzzi is getting some attention. Loving the videos Spite!

Great review and descriptions! V85TT Centenario owner here and BMW lover. V85 is a really special bike.

Great review. Always love when Whitney adds her take on things. The R9T is an awesome looking bike. BMW really knows how to finish their motorcycles. That said a MotoGuzzi V twin makes a very special sound. I'd have to hear it run but it looks great especially the way you sit on it, really looks comfortable.

I kid you not. I was watching a video last night and said that I miss you doing these with Whitney. You guys make a good team.

Great to have the band back together!!!

I've spent a few hundred miles on a V85 and it's just a ludicrously comfortable place to sit, and I'm 6'7". Very impressive bike.

@Whitney_Does is so brilliant in pairing these two as a matchup!

I tend to be on the same page as Whitney. I like the bikes that somehow escape the bean counters and were passion projects. The v85 is cool, but the actual R9T scrambler with spoke wheels is way better as an esoteric all roads mount for me. I'd put the V85 against the F850, really. I might match her R9t against a V9 or something of the bobber/standards from Gootsie. It's important not to crucify the quirky bikes on the altar of precision marketing targets and absolute flavor of the month market niches. They're both great bikes that have wonderful quirky character. It just depends on what kind of weirdo you are and what weird thing are you going to do with them, which is usually the way you have epic fun on a motorcycle.

Nice one! Would love to also see a full V85TT video.

I am a Gootsie lover. I thought when I saw the title another Guzzi blood bath. Surprised because of all the Beemer owners in the world. What really cracked me up was when you called the Beemer quirky. That's a term that has been associated with Guzzis for decades. BTW the colors on the Guzzi are the 100th anniversary colors.

After months of doubt I went with Moto Guzzi V85TT (exact same color) since the R1250GS was too expensive and never saw the RnineT GS as a GS and after 1,5 years I couldn't be happier with my choice. It is great for commuting, travel and some off road. But the Moto Guzzi V-twin engines (with the exception of the new engine from the V100) are not new tech, they're from the 60's.

Moto Guzzi makes addictive, solid, rider-conceived motorcycles. They last and are really wonderful things that age well. I rode many BMW’s for years, bought many new and used older ones from the late 1970s up through 2015. Now I don’t. I still like some older ones, R-69s, R-75, R-90, R-100 and especially R-80 G/S. But the 2007-ish to now, I tried but they lost me. The newer, the less I like them unfortunately and I do not like feeling that way. The brand new ones are just not so nice to ride- or to own, in my opinion. I think I’m not alone, but not sure as I’m not really a hater and don’t want to go around talking bad but there it is. And I’ve had two bikes with the engine that is on the 9T there. It’s a sort of harsh and buzzy motor, some of them have notchy transmissions. Seats, well, no. Seems odd for such a price point. So - didn’t like them that much anymore although I tried almost out of habit or loyalty or hope or something, but liked them less anyway as time went on. To the point that when the follow-on water boxer engine series came out, gave a try, didn’t feel it, then when the price point shifted up again as well as the weight, when they got even fussier etc., it was a revelation - and a relief - to happen discover riding around on a Moto Guzzi. Twin, air, shaft, great brakes, good handling, mellow, quality build, serviceable ( though shaft service is not easy, it must me said). There are not enough dealers but it works out for various reasons. Worth a try imo, any model of new Guzzi is really ok enough to try out. They’re all cool, nice to ride around on, interesting and unusual. Some more unusual than others, true enough.

I really like the two person, two bike type of review where each person rides both bikes back to back. and compares them. This gives riders and readers a specific way to gauge the performance of a bike. I also understand Whitney's comment that a bike that is easier to ride and smoother isn't always the most fun.

Dude(s), I'm so glad you didn’t slate the Guzzi. I ride a V7 (853) and I'm on the point of getting an ADV bike, the Guzzi 85TT is right up there against the Triumph Tiger 900, KTM 890, and Norden 901. I'm test riding one next week, and can't wait. The V7 is a gorgeous little bike, and for being well short of 100 HP is surprisingly quick.

Great video, I'm a fan, you two are good together. Do your best to follow up on your initial plans of having a Himalayan and a KLR 650.

I picked up my 2023 V85TT in November of 2023 and have fallen in love with it. The bike just seems to be a good all around bike. I now spend equal time in the saddle between it and my 2022 Harley Davidson Lowrider ST.

I absolutely looooooooooveeeeeee the V85TT. The only bike I would buy from the dealership.

That v85 is one hell of a good looking adv bike

I was looking at both of these bikes, and finally decided on the Guzzi, I went into the dealer thinking BMW Scrambler and walked out with the Guzzi. The Out the Door Price with all the Boxes was Less Expensive. My next DYI Bike Build is a 2003 HD Sportster Scrambler

Whitney is great! More videos with her please. I own a V85TT Travel and a V7III, so I’m a bit of a fanboy. I love the V85TT for many of the reasons you mentioned. It’s not perfect. But it’s perfect for me. Glad that Himalayan was sold…🙂

As a former Moto Guzzi 850 owner, I have always wondered what's so great about BMW - So I have now had 2 on extensive rides and owned one( just 4 months), and I got to say, they all suck hard in ways that matter to me as a rider - handling being my number one - BMW just cannot (flat twins) handle, on or off road, as well as that Guzzi. And BMWs are so common - you see them every day but the Guzzi draws attention everywhere, and not just from motorcyclists. Sadly gone from the quiver, replaced by a Ducati Monster S2R1000 now.

Love the content. No give aways or selling. Just pure love of riding.

R1200 air/oil cooled unit is a motorcycle great , sadly the rest of this machine is NOT premium especially the front forks, you would find better on a Chinese 125. The top r9t comes with premium suspension but not this one. So you have too chuck money at it. The guzzi is absolutely unique it is in a class of ONE. You don't sit on it you wear it . Guzzi were once brought buy guzzi owners this bike as changed all that. Dealers report part ex's from all the other manufacturers. It's different but so is the beemer so may not be for everyone. Best bike I have ever ridden/owned and so proud to see it in my garage and be part of something very very special

And everytime I ride the guzzi people inevitably say hey cool bike even squids lol

Guzzi Looks like a great tourer, Beemer looks like a great Weekender

I’ve just discovered your channel after being curious about where you went, I love that you’re bringing in the people from you know who! You were the reason I watched him and it’s so sad what happened but it’s so so so good to see you building your own thing! Keep up the good work man!

It’s always good to see Whitney. I would go for the Moto Guzzi if that was my thing.

'Round these parts Guzzi is like the dad-bikiest brand that ever took to the road. I only know one person under 50 with a Guzzi, and that's because she's literally riding her dad's bike. 🤣 HOWEVER, I love the Guzzi style, though I've only ever ridden the V7 Racer, and even that only on a closed course. They just look damn cool to me. The dads aren't wrong! I'd ride the heck out of a V85TT.

This comparison makes no sense. The BMW R9T line is meant to be a "heritage" retro-scrambler. The V85TT is an adventure bike. Two totally different classes of motorcycles and thus have entirely different setups, suspension, riding positions, and equipment. The BMW purposely does not have any of the new modern features, hence the retro-scrambler title. There are several other scramblers you could have compared the BMW to and there are several mid-sized adventure bikes that would have been good comparisons for the V85TT. I think the V85TT is a great mid-sized adventure bike, with a lot of the BMW R1200GS character in a smaller package. I would love to see it compared to the Tenere 700, Toureg 660, and KLR 650.

It seems that the V transverse engine offers great smoothness. I owned an 82 Honda CX. It was my first bike and I may consider Guzzi someday.

I love my V85 TT. Every time I ride it I grin like an idiot

Nice to see Whitney again ! Love those double testing versus comparison like you did on the previous channel you both were on.

I was truly amazed by the moto guzzi when I spent a weekend on one. Absolutely astounding that they could design something so gorgeous and the engineering team could make the engine just as exciting as instant potatoes. That engine is a snooze fest 😴

What a great video! Just my 2 cents why I like it so much: You talk about aspects while demonstrating them (off road capabilities, on road) You aren't just rambling in a helmet mic for the entire video Switching between the 2 views while having a dialogue is refreshing You both have your own honest opinions to give Well edited together. I love the drone views in between.

Great vid. I bought a V85TT 3 months ago and have been enjoying the motorcycle. You might want to compare the V85TT with other mid size ADV bikes. Thanks from Seattle.

I always enjoy seeing that abandon gas barbecue grill on your off road demos.

Both cool bikes, given the option I’d take the guzzi.

A motorcycle that reminds you of a refrigerator...., Whitney is one of a kind! You two need to do a Ural and take turns in the side car... that would be hilarious!

You guys have good chemistry. Oh, yeah, the Moto Guzzi would be my pick. It has it in spades.

I'm in the process of switching from BMW to Guzzi. I do like the big boxers and enjoyed my time with the RT, but the new Italian beauty has stolen my heart. So I'm buying a V100 Mandello. In this case, off road, the R1250GS is probably a better bet, but heavy. As you say, the RnineT is more a styling exercise. It's a shame you didn't get to do the Himalayan. I've got a Scram and that is very planted on the dirt.

Another example of appleorangism: the TT85 is an adv bike and the R9T is a scrambler. Either you compare the TT85 to the F850GS or the R9T to the V7 Stornello (which probably also sucks at off-road)

I have both and the R9T Scrambler is a blast to ride in the mountain twisties, but not off-pavement, and not for 200 mile rides. The V85TT is the better bike for all-around utility and the one I take for long, multi-state rides. Not a perfect bike, but it does a lot of things remarkably well. Thanks for the comparison.

I have rode both those bikes back to back, No one in their right mind would pick the B.M.W over the Moto Guzzi, which is a better bike all-round.

I have a 1200 GS and I think it’s probably the best adventure tourer ever made. However I love Moto Guzzis and I really feel that BMW can get it really right or really wrong. The GS is poetry but the 1800 hundred cruiser and the scrambler just don’t seem to crack it somehow.

I am not shocked that Whitney would get the BMW again. She sorta seems to have a fondness for odd and quirky bikes. I get the draw to kinda the less refined more mechanical raw feel. It is definitely a thing plenty of people enjoy. Me, between the two, the V85TT would win out I think for my personal interests.

Awesome to see Whitney on here !

I chose the Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'Onore. My other bike is a 2004 Victory Vegas which kinda is like the BMW in that it is old school with lots of torque and cruiser style handling. The Moto Guzzi handles so good in comparison and that makes it a blast to ride on the twisty's. It also does pretty good on tails that aren't too gnarly. The motor in the Victory is it's strong point and I love it for that and the styling is awesome. Two great bikes that are very different. Lucky me!

The Guzzi is not an opposed twin. Its a transverse mounted V twin.

While you're riding Guzzi's, please try out a Griso? It's more in line with the RnineT.

I am a very proud owner of a T7 World Raid and made the mistake of test driving one of these V85s the other day. Now my T7 needs a sister. Badly. That thing is AWESOME i loved it way more than i could have ever imagined

Love the comparison (looking at a V85TT for my next ride) and the commentary from the two riders. 1st time I've watched the two youtubers. Great mash up. Love the food analogy too....tickled me that. Great chat between them 🙂👍🏍🎉

The R Nine T is just a raw beast! That's it's appeal! I have one and its very rideable especially on twisty roads!

Here for the Moto Guzzi experience 😎

I looked at both these bikes and chose the V85 cos I want to tour and green lane.

The beemer ‘has almost nothing going for it’ 🤣🤣🤣 Love it 🍻

Good team... the two together are rocking it... I choose the V85... I don't think I want to compare the V85 with the Pan An... rather the British 900 Tiger and the Beemer 850GS... what it lacks in power even in this class it earns its stars in nostalgica, heart, and practicability...

More guzzis!!!!!!!! I hope one day you can get your hands on a V100 Mandello

Guzzi guy here, happy to see you get on one, was looking at v85 or v7 for my next bike after my breva, hope you do reviews of more

Great to see Whitney on the channel. MG V85TT all the way.

Glad to see Whitney back once again! An odd pair of bikes to compare, but as they say at the drag strip, “You gotta run whatcha brung.” For what it’s worth, I’d probably go for the R9T just for the torque. Cool video!

The Guzzi is a serious attempt at a real middle weight touring bike. Travel, commute, camp, flirt with the twistys. I could live with that bike. The R9T is a bike to be cool on for short trips. There is room for both.

Great video Spite, the Whitney addition works well. I would like to try the Moto Guzzi, I have an RT, I love it.

My friend has been able to keep his Guzzi from the early 2000's running and he is the worst mechanic. Like a Harley they can be worked on by the average person.

Another great video Spite. Good to see you hanging with Whitney too. Both of you are awesome.

Great video... I've been shopping for a road-oriented adv bike, and the V85TT just keeps winning the mental wrestling match that is new bike shopping... It also helps that the base price includes luggage... the V85 is simple-ish to work on, is reportedly very comfortable, and a competent enough off-roader to easily explore gravel fire roads... If I'm going to ride trails, I'm going to take me EXC-F 500... everyone keeps trying to lump the V85 in the same category as the BMW F850, the KTM 890, and the Tigert 900, but really, I think it's more of a competitor with the V-Strom, the Versys, and the other pseudo-ADV bikes. Thanks for an enjoyable video, and it's given me plenty more to think about. Would you choose the V85TT over a V-Strom 1000?

Both of these bikes are on my next list for consideration