Jack McDevitt we should elect them to office lol

Seriously, nowadays if u have a different opinion, ur gonna get torched

starcraft1980 please

1On1 Lost Temple?

@@FoieGwa NR 15 min

that would be jokes lmaooo

First they came for Don... Chiclets watch your back...

"Nobody is going to understand each other if everybody is going back and forth pointing fingers at each other" 100%

Grinnel & Biz nailed it.....Whitt missed it. Always want one dissenter to create a good conversation. Any old school hockey follower loved Cherry. Unfortunately Cherry's best before date expired 10+ yrs ago, Biz captured it better than most. Can't be on his pedestal and get away with that kind of xenophobic rhetoric Cherry was inevitably gonna go down.....he likely regrets going down on the relatively lame comments by his standards......kudos to Sportsnet for having the balls to do the right thing..... Cherry likely wished he'd gone down in bigger flames Kinda reminds us of Trump and his rhetoric.......not good for the US or Canada!!! Loved your podcasts with Tocchet......best ever!

They all had solid points, and goes to show that many people have differing opinions, and sometimes you just gotta move on and not have such knee jerk mob reactions to every little thing people say. Like George Carlin said. "My opinion is that youre not entitled to your opinion and its wrong" Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one, and sometimes they're shitty.

@@DChappelle27 Hey kid,the Carlin quote is..."My opinion is you have no right to your opinion..."

Agreed.

Ryan Clahane so fuckin true!! every single opportunity Don Cherry had at saying younger generations, immigrants, etc. werent involved enough in demonstrating their patriotic sentiments, he took them. Every year it rubbed me the wrong way, because as biz said, i dont need to wear a poppy to appreciate veterans, but ill be damned if this deserves being fired.

Dr. Disco it’s just annoying those young people growing up now are completely spineless and whine to get everything they want

@@5150roze Agreed. People have a right to voice an opinion. I have no issue with that. My issue is that corporations and sponsors give those opinions power. At worse, people who make 'insensitive' or 'racist' or 'sexist' remarks, are trolls. The cancel culture of publically shaming, calling for job losses and boycots is just pure evil.

@@DrDisco-vu8jt as many people pointed out, he has said worse things and SINGLED groups out like Russians and Francophones. Here, he grouped everyone together. His heart was hurting and his intention was about poppies and not attacking immigrants. I think all the regulars watching, saw it as Don being Don. Whereas the cancel culture, who don't watch are the vocal ones and as usual, get their way which is job less and no income for someone and their family.

Ryan Clahane couldn’t agree more bro. It’s just a shame not much can be done at this point with the levels of corruption on both sides of the political spectrum.

My girlfriends grandmother said that exact thing today

If only it were true

F that, check yourself. You go all racist, and lose your job.

Trudeaus blackface was in the past, so it’s not comparable or a double standard. People aren’t calling on cherry to be fired for comments in the past. It happened now and times are changing.

bang on trash cans ya Astros fan? #cheaters

"Whit" is an idiot with a combined 7 toes on 2 feet useless pylon.

RockinStevieD who cares if it was in the past? What kind of logic is that. What Cherry said wasn’t offensive and a majority of Canadians agree. Covering your body in dark brown paint to mock another nationality? That’s offensive.

@@mooseyjuice6t9 You're right. Whit's an idiot. talking out of his ass.

Streetard not the same thing, very different

Completely different bud.

B0GGIEMAN101 similarities

​@@street5725 "20+" years ago residential schools existed in Canada.

I agree completely different. We have a lot more snow flakes today.

@dave sagar yeah and made a shit load of money while watching all the best hockey in the world for 40+ years at the side of that.i think he dosent give

Fuckin eh right👍🏻

This one might be a little different. I now a lot of my minority friends felt it was targeted at them and were hurt, but all but one of them didnt think he should have been fired...until they saw that clip of his interview from 1990 where he is full blown racist as fuck old man

Wasnt Don the initial person who got OFFENDED by coloured people? Dont be a snowflake.

You sound offended

YES. Snowflakes these days think tolerance means never saying anything that could ever offend anyone, literally being intolerant in the process.

@@NHLfan96 Some do. On the other hand, there are people these days who think they can say anything under the guise of "free speech", without there being any consequences. The internet makes it easy for people to act like retards, so the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other.

That's such a white perspective

Crystal No, it’s the dictionaries perspective 😂 tol·er·ant - adjective showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

@@tricko2286 You don't practice "tolerance" when it comes to xenophobic or racist comments like this. Immigrants are dying in camps at the US border because of beliefs like this; don't expect you to care, but if I go on TV and say all white people are idiots and aren't jack compared to brown people, then white people better tolerate it?

reid Harrington yeah I guess being 85 is a solid excuse for making xenophobic statements on national tv in a nation made up almost purely of immigrants.

@@5aturnia Yawn

@evan williams haha the good old days huh, when people of colour didn't have equal rights, when woman couldn't vote. Ah the good ol' days

ssnnpp right, people want to call everyone soft because they can’t get away with the shit they used to.

@Rick Gross actually Canada was uninhabited by humans. Literally everyone here can trace their lineage back to another region. Even aboriginals.

"keep yer stick on the ice"

I agree that I do not believe Don is racist like people are accusing him of. However, I believe a large amount of those leveling that term at him are doing so without an understanding of the word. Racism has become the catch all term for bigotry, xenophobia and/or racism. They are conflating Don's extreme xenophobia with racism...they are not the same thing. Don is "racist" using those people's definition against white people too. He friggin HATES on European players and Francophones.

Don kept me on my toes. Sometimes I agreed with him, more often, not. He is a fossil, and a loud and vociferous one at that, tilting at windmills and hitting the mark 50:50 in my book.

@@brianeleighton Exactly! Also, Don's soften a LOT when it comes to foreigners. He's stroked all sorts of foreigners in the last few years in Coach's Corner. The racist thing is sooooo disingenuous. He kissed the first Muslim NHL star, (Kadri) on the air, and loves PK and Simmonds etc. If you play with a bit of an edge, he doesn't care what your skin colour is. (he'd prefer you to be Canadian though, haha)

Agreed.

Do your parents know you're gay?

www.vancouvewww.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/11/18/don-cherry-podcast/risawesome.com/2019/11/18/don-cherry-podcast/

he has one

I dumped Hockey Night In Canada for Don Cherry’s Grapevine podcast and guess what? His podcast is #1 worldwide on Apple podcasts in 2020. Suck it Rogers!

I don't think this was balanced at all. These were extremely basic and ignorant points. A thorough review of the topic would include, for example, the work of Robert Putnam et al from Harvard University on Social Capital, historic rates of immigration, migration sources, historic composition of countries, the definition of a nation, and, yes, even genetics. No-one said it would be comfortable. The truth rarely is. This was just pablum from guys attempting to position themselves for Sportsnet jobs. Sportsnet made a clear statement of what it's official ideology is. Note the word ideology. That's different from truth. Cherry should educate himself more on the topic before spouting off his mouth, but he's aware there is an issue. Toronto's crime rate has been consistently and dramatically over historical averages from 1900-1960 for decades now. What's the difference? If it is migration, which is an honest point of discussion, the people that are affected by the higher rates (the old stock who are the victims in this case) deserve an answer. There should be no limits to the questions asked.

Not sure CBC would like tales of getting fucked up on mushrooms, or puck bunnies who squirt a little brown while in bed.

@@jasondashney They could tone it down a bit and just talk hockey. It would be great. Canada would welcome them with open arms....or at least the Canadian hockey community.

Jason Dashney they squirted brown?

Really? Wow, they sure are f*cking articulate in their F*cking speach as the F*cking ramble on F*cking on and on often F*cking rambling and F*cking overtalking each F*cking other. What a sad F*cking joke.

Ace96 That’s hilarious I didn’t even notice it sounded completed normal

I love Don. I agree I do not think he is racist, but he for SURE is xenophobic. He has been that way his whole career. Hell, he is even xenophobic against fellow Canadians...the Francophones. I am surprised that this was what brought Don down, this is not even close to the Mt. Rushmore of offensive things he has said on air.

I grew up in NY, on the border of Quebec. I understand why you feel the way you do. People from Quebec have had a rough time being Canadian and there's friction with Americans as well, but hopefully we can all learn to grow.

Yeah she's ridiculous. She then didn't get why the outrage was there. It's like the progressives are genuinely blind to any viewpoint but their own, and too often their point is "Yeah but the ends justify the means and I'm morally right so nothing else matters (like hypocrisy)"

Immigrating from the USA is barely immigrating my guy 😂

I'm offended for you and because you're not offended, you are a racist! SJW logic

@ Huntsy: Consider yourself fortunate to be living in Canada.

Will Beatty oh I know but guess what he didn’t specify immigrants from where ;)

Its usually bored people who arent even in the group being criticized who are the most offended. Which is actually kind of prejudice because they make others feel they cant handle critique. Immigrants are welcome in Canada and they are welcome to speak, they are not marginalized or at risk.

Nah fuck that. Whit for PM even if he ain’t!

Its a discussion that shouldnt have even happened in the first place.

Chuck Beef that’s fair I was just saying it’s much better hearing two sides talk like normal people and not just scream and be bitter

Aunt Becky Well one side did get fired, and the other didnt. Wasnt really a discussion, it was the left having their cake and eating it too like usual in my opinion.

Chuck Beef I was talking about them discussing it right here not the situation

I'm actually glad RA is on the other side of the debate because I don't like echo chambers. I think he's wrong, but I'm glad they talked like adults about it all.

You have to also remember. These older people grew up in different times then we did. Where sensitive people were not all over the place throwing emotions, and it was okay to have a different opinion. Don is don. Like you said, Sometimes he says stupid shit, thats just don. But thats also why everyone liked him. He wasnt afraid to say what was on his mind.

Andrew M agreed! Absolutely the case. I’m ashamed to say it’s people of my generation who are so sensitive about this. It’s also a fact that for the last few years, it’s sort of common understanding that he’s the butt end of jokes. We loved him and looked forward to his commentary but took it serious maybe 1 out of 20 times...

Good points guys

Sensitive mate? He was always on the thin line of xenophobia, but he kept it on a hockey level with the whole bashing of Europeans. In this instance, he said "you people come here, and enjoy our milk and honey." He was talking about brown/black/Asian immigrants was way too general. I still like Cherry, I don't believe he's racist, but he went over the line by pinning this disrespect and unappreciatiation on minorities. How insensitive do you want people to be???

Pardon me?? Im 46 year old Canadian, born and raisied and Im proficient in social media!! What a crock Den! The people who stand with OUR Canadian icon Cherry are the same people who are SICK of the hypocrisy and this isn't about Don Cherry saying 'you people' he said that EXACT thing in 1998 (look it up) and he NEVER meant minorities, he meantt ALL newcomers, OF ALL RACES who have NO CLUE what Canadian CULTURE even is because according to Trudeau Canada is a POST Nation State. We have NO identity. This is about taking out one of the LAST Conservative voices who says it like it is, OFF television. This was planned! So please, spare me the FAUX outrage and this whole podcast session was ridiculous! Falling into the 'cancel culture' culture narrative. Wow

@@colemannation. Funny, I agree with everything you've said. Even funnier how you've misconstrued what I've said.

@@colemannation. See, the thing is, a lot of people don't think coaches corner or hockey broadcasts in general should be political at all. Liberal, conservative or anything in between I don't care. Stick to hockey. If Don had done that, he'd still have a job.

@@troubleondemand7703 Veterans > Hockey

@@kesler4245 I mean, they aren't really even comparable. It's like saying police are more important than baseball. There are plenty of places to go and hear either side of the political argument. Between periods of the game I don't want a lecture on correct pronouns or the troops, I want hockey commentary. I want updates not politics and a sports commentators opinions on them. I watch the game to get away from that shit for a while.

Agreed , the brains pretty good even after eatin a few 👍

Apparently he's woke.

Marty I couldn’t agree more my friend

I'm a former immigrant (east Africa) and my family are very proud Canadians. I almost got into a fight with a Caucasian kid in high school because he refused to stand for the anthem while arguing with the teacher. My family always wears poppies. Go to any uni campus and government building and you will see countless Caucasians who don't wear poppies. I was a big Cherry fan, but he went over the line by saying "you people come here and enjoy our milk and honey" before explaining how these people do not appreciate "our" ways. In another interview, he even said he wished he didn't infer blame on just immigrants, and rather on all people who don't wear poppies. I like Don Cherry too, and I don't believe he's racist, but he stepped over the line. All these years my family respected the Canadian customs and traditions, and yet it's us who get called out for not appreciating Canadian culture? He should have called out everyone who doesn't wear poppies, and he admitted this himself on a different podcast

If that was the case, they would have canned Ron too. He makes just as much as Don does if not more. It was a case of Don digging in at first and refusing to apologize...if he had even tweeted an apology right away (he has a curated Twitter account) he would probably still have a job.

Brian Leighton you shouldn’t apologize if you haven’t done anything wrong

@@licmysak4130 Well, thankfully that viewpoint is fading out. Singling out immigrants like he did is wrong. Especially when there are plenty of young Canadians who do not buy/wear a poppy.

Brian Leighton all he said was that you come to our country and enjoy our way of like you could at least buy a poppy for the soldiers who gave you that opportunity.

@@licmysak4130 he's complaining about immigrants not wearing poppies as if they don't have respect for Canada - how does he know whose an immigrant or not? It was a stupid and racist comment because there was no basis for it to begin with, just an old guy getting a chance to blow off his pent up racial frustrations. It was stupid and he paid the price. If he really wanted to honour the vets all he had to do is tell everyone to go out and support and buy a poppy because he doesn't see it as much anymore. Not just blame newcomers

CANADIAN 416 SN only announced the firing because Don was doing an interview with Joe Warmington the day after the firing (Remembrance Day) and it was starting to leak to the public so they got ahead of it and announced it. Don didn’t need to jump into interviews day-of if he didn’t want to take away from the day.

If they are pre-recorded, then HNIC was somewhat okay with what he said. They only burried Don after the backlash. And Bobby Orr defended Don. Why aren't people piling on Orr then? I hate the hypocrisy.

It didn't warrant a firing offense. However, he did single out immigrants and newcomers when he said you people come here and enjoy our way of life. I'm a huge Don Cherry fan, but I was a newcomer too and I always wear my poppy. Infact, many of my Caucasian friends do not wear poppies. Was I offended? No, I'm not a leftie, but I was disappointed that he singled us out. Don has had interviews in the past where he clearly showed he was anti-immigration and pretty xenophobic (prejudiced against people from other countries), so this is nothing new from him. I think everyone should be wearing poppies, including Canadian-born people. Go to any University or government building in a major city and you'll see how many people don't wear poppies. As Biz said, Don is speaking from a Toronto context too so some people took demographic fact that many Indians, Pakis and Somalians are around there and formed their own conclusions about race. Now this I disagree with, the man is no racist, he's offended Swedes and Russians more than any other group. He's just a xenophobe.

Respectfully, it is "righties" that are offended and bothered by people not wearing a poppy... Lefties are offended that he singled out immigrants (with his "you people come here....") and, in this case, they're right.

That's not a double-standard. Jess Allen works for CTV, that is owned by Bell. Cherry worked for Sportsnet, that is owned by Rogers. If they both had the same employer and Cherry got fired but Allen didn't (ignoring all of Cherry's history) then you would have a double-standard. This is a different standard by different companies/employers.

@@js8805 huh

@@ktowniecity7269 what don't you get?

@@js8805 F

Jeff Slo The double standard is that all those whiney cunts who cryed about cherry, are very silent after what Jess Allen said. “You immigrants should buy poppies too” is alot different then “ anyone associated with hockey is a white privilege bully and troglodyte. What she said is much more rude and offensive. She literally degraded an entire population, Don Cherry didnt do that.