How to get the Mounjaro out of an autoinjector and split it across multiple doses. This is the “sterile vessel” approach and not the “disassemble the autoinjector” approach.
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@jaimeegriffin54842 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Turned one prescription into 2 months worth. Worked like a charm.
@sassylrhg5 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this EZ to follow video. My 15 mg Mounjaro pen injected easily into my 2ml vial. I'm just using half dose, twice weekly to start. I was on Ozempic 2.4mg and insurance forced a med change. If the 'food chatter' is gone I'm good to go. I'm minus 110 pounds in 20 months.
@tash83084 ай бұрын
Hi, I"m just starting my weightloss journey and was wondering if I could talk to you about getting started with mounjaro?
@tonychin99004 ай бұрын
Great video. I knew a lot of these techniques but did not think about doing it with the autoinjector. Thanks might give it a try
@travelingaquanauts313710 ай бұрын
Great information and would help if you could find a higher dose but the lower one was backordered you could draw out a vial and then inject the lower amount from it. My husband takes hormone shots and draws it out of the vial with the larger gauge needle but then injects like you showed with the insulin size needle. He said the higher gauge needle draws better.
@Najenaj164 ай бұрын
This is great because that pen makes me flinch and I've spilled it more than once
@ThePinkChilli26 күн бұрын
That was brilliant. Thank you for sharing your technique.
@glp1girl7 ай бұрын
amazing information! Thank you!
@loubuonojr40848 ай бұрын
I did this, and I found that the 0.5ml was actually 0.62ml. Same total dosage per pen I'm sure, but if you're splitting the dose, make sure you pull the entire amount to see how many ml's, reinject into the vial, and then you'll be able to split your dose properly
@DoloresLowe7 ай бұрын
@loubuonojr4084 thank you for your observation. I'm wondering if you have found that the volume is consistent with that 0.62 ml over multiple vials? I'd be interested in hearing your results, and I plan to check mine the same way for more accurate dosing.
@loubuonojr40847 ай бұрын
Hey so I just emptied 4 pens into a vial. In total, it came to 1.7ml instead of the expected 2ml. I would definitely check every time.
@leighchavez16143 ай бұрын
Regardless of the mg, the medicine is mixed WITH a solution of 0.5 ml
@BK-gc1jm10 ай бұрын
good job, I have a bunch of 7.5 and i need 10 now
@PorcelainDR9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!!!
@danielleroberts82528 ай бұрын
I tried the vial method with my 15mg pen for the first time this week and the first injection went well, but I couldn't get any liquid from the vial on the second injection. I had some bac water on hand, so I used that to get the medicine out, but even then, I couldn't get all the liquid out of the vial. I ended up having to pop the top off of it with a can opener to draw up the rest. I'm going to try the bigger syringe method this week to see if that works better.
@daniellepapillion56596 ай бұрын
Did it work better with the bigger syringe?
@danielleroberts82526 ай бұрын
@@daniellepapillion5659 I actually ended up sticking with the vial method and just ordered smaller vials (I had previously ordered 5mg vials, but those were way too big). Sometimes, I can get it all out, and sometimes, I still pop the rubber stopper off for the last dose in a vial. It's not that bad to have to deal with and it leaves the medicine more secure in my fridge, considering that others in the household move things around.
@tonychin99004 ай бұрын
Did you inject air into the vial before trying to withdraw the dosage? You may have had a vacuum holding it back.
@danielleroberts82524 ай бұрын
@@tonychin9900 I did, thank you. I actually ended up getting a different kind of vial and a smaller one, and that has worked out better for me over the past few months.
@lizziebeggimbo4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. Can I ask, how has your journey been with mounjaro?
@staci0429Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@seleneKeaveney3 ай бұрын
thanks sooo much
@marknorris184Күн бұрын
I tried injecting the 10 mg dose, .5 ml, into a 1 ml insulin syringe and found it tricky. For some reason the needle on the mounjaro injector would bend and I couldn’t get the full .5 ml into the syringe. I slid the insulin syringe over the injector needle, but the injector needle bent both times. I used 2 10 mg mounjaro injectors which should be 1 ml of mounjaro, but I only got a small amount of the mounjaro each time. I don’t know if my technique is bad or what. Using 2 of the 10 mg injectors I only got about a third of the 1 ml mounjaro into my insulin syringe. I should have had a full 1 ml of mounjaro to divide into two 5 mg doses. I’m thinking the sterile empty vials would have been easier to use. I didn’t tolerate the increase to 10 mg mounjaro due to stomach pain and nausea. That is why I wanted to go back to the 5 mg dosing. I tolerated the 7.5 mg fine, but couldn’t handle the 10 mg dose. Overall I’m very pleased with mounjaro. I’ve lost 44 pounds in 4 months and lowered my A1c to 5.3!! I guess I’m not going to be able to go past 7.5 mg of mounjaro. I hope I don’t plateau at 7.5 mg, but I will have to see. I still need to loose about 40 more pounds to be where I want. Why is 2.5 mg and 5 mg dosing considered the maintenance dosage for mounjaro?
@mrs.fussaplenty395Ай бұрын
Has anyone noticed the pen containing more than .5 ml? I have been using the smaller gauge needle over the pen needle withdrawal method and haven’t noticed any discrepancies. But have read comments saying they found that it wasn’t .5ml but slightly more. Which would be concerning if you use bac water to add bulk. I love the second method and will definitely try it.
@patricia_burkham5 ай бұрын
I added 1 ml of bac water to my 7.5 Mounjaro vial. I hope i did right? Some say yes and some say no.
@tortyvitai3 ай бұрын
Can you store it in the TP syringe in the fridge or would you have to mix it with bacstat?
@Reelroader6 ай бұрын
If I split a 15mg into 3 doses, how long are they good in the vial?
@elizabethvanvliet2380Ай бұрын
Do you have to retract the TB syringe as the autoinjector discharges?
@sarahmfrance27 күн бұрын
I see a lot of videos adding BAC to the Mounjaro in the vial. Is that necessary? Does the medicine stay “good”?
@frodosdojo10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I was scared to try to take the pen apart.
@PinkOwl3110 ай бұрын
Taking the pin apart wasn't so bad. I was nervous though.
@robertkapty50539 ай бұрын
When you use the second method to shoot directly into a syringe, when you press the button, does the needle bump the syringe down? It seems like the needle would move down and possibly bump the syringe out of your hand. It's hard to tell from the video and I would be afraid to try this without knowing. I'm using Manjaro specifically.
@frodosdojo9 ай бұрын
@@robertkapty5053 I didn't try that one. I ended up injecting the mj directly into a sterile bottle with a sealed top I bought on Amazon.
@chicchi197713 ай бұрын
How many ml is the 15 gram pen?
@angeliquebell81797 ай бұрын
Do you pull the .5mL of air out before or after filling the vial with Mounjaro?
@tonychin99004 ай бұрын
before. Then when you withdraw inject the amount of air in that equals what you take out.
@RosieG196117 күн бұрын
when is bacterialstat water used in these applications? Some people use it, some don’t
@ljstince4 ай бұрын
Hi, I am reading conflicting advice. Some are saying you CAN use the BAC and some are saying do not due to it rendering the proteins ineffective. Do you we have solid research that it is okay? Is it okay to split the 15mg into two doses without any BAC water?
@SoCalSilverback4 ай бұрын
You don’t really need to add any BAC water but you can if you want. It won’t hurt anything. It may help split the dose into smaller portions if you have 15mg pens and want something small like 2.5 or 5.
@ljstince4 ай бұрын
@SoCalSilverback Can you explain how to split the dose if not using BAC and wanting 10mg from 15mg please? What are the units per ml? I wanted to have both options and decide best way!
@Sergissandaclassic9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video and help. How much would 10. mg and 12.5 mg of mounjaro be in a 50 unit insulin syringe?
@rachelgooden99818 ай бұрын
What’s the volume?
@Sergissandaclassic8 ай бұрын
@@rachelgooden9981 , they would be derived from a 15 mg pen
@chicchi197713 ай бұрын
If I use half of a 15 mg pen and tuen it into two 7.5 mg doses, how long does the vial last on the fridge? Do I need to add anything to it so it lasts in the fridge?
@chelsealaine255013 күн бұрын
I dont have a tb syringe but i have 1ml insulin syringes, can i inject the pen into thay?
@darrinposta4730Ай бұрын
Can someone please provide a link for the vials?
@hollymcneil343 ай бұрын
So if I was on the 2.5 mg pen and I wanted to only take half of that…. Would I draw up 12.5 units ? Since the 2.5 would equal 25 units!!!
@p90pdack682 ай бұрын
So you want a half dose of the 2.5mg pens? The dose is 2.5mg/0.5mL, correct? Half of 2.5mg is 1.25mg and half of 0.5mL is 0.25mL. So to get a half dose you would need 0.25mL. A diabetic syringe is measured in UNITS, not milliliters. There are 100 units in 1mL. So for example, 0.5mL would be 50 units. In your case we need 0.25mL, which would be 25 units. Hope this helps!
@memeavatar27034 ай бұрын
So what happened? I removed the seal from the KC container and I injected the 5mg into the kc container but it did not penetrate the top of the container. After I noticed it didn't work in a panic I attempted to remove it from the KC container and inject myself to not lose all of it. I looked, and the needle in the Moujaro was bent. I was sure I had centered it. Does anyone else have this problem? I bought the KC 2ml at Amazon. Any thoughts, or suggestions? Thanks.
@memeavatar27034 ай бұрын
I am using a 5mg pen, could this be the problem? You are using a 15?
@adblake124 ай бұрын
I did this, i have messed up with the centering as many times as I’ve been successful…it’s super frustrating. I tried doing the bigger needle last time and lost a little but at least it wasn’t the whole pen
@BobbiePerez-qy5hm5 ай бұрын
I. Have a 5 mg pen and want to open it and use it as 2.5 mg. Can someone help me.
@MonicaLevingston2 ай бұрын
I wanted to know the same
@domingogarcia99207 ай бұрын
For everyone doing this. Are you using BAC water to store in the vial? If so how much? Or are you drawing up and storing in syringes?
@akleo786 ай бұрын
I mix 1ml Bacteriostaic Reconsitution Solution with 0.5 ml (15mg) Mounjaro. That will make it 1.5 ml total or 150 units. The reason for this is that it will make the splitting even into 2.5 mg doses much easier. So here's how many units you need to draw from the vial with insulin syringe after mixing 1ml BAC with .5 ml Mounjaro: 2.5 mg -> 25 units 5 mg -> 50 units 7.5 mg -> 75 units 10 mg -> 100 Another reason for mixing BAC water is that there are no preservatives in Mounjaro and BAC that contains .9% Benzoyl Alcohol ensures that bacteria does not grow in your vial and it lasts longer.
@paulcubito78956 ай бұрын
How long does it stay good in the vial with the BAC .. Thanks
@akleo786 ай бұрын
@paulcubito7895 It should last around 5 to 6 weeks weeks in the fridge, which is all you need. If you are drawing the minimum dose (2.5 mg) every week from the vial, it will take 6 weeks to finish it. So don't mix more than one 15mg pen at a time. Just do this when you run out. You will need to inject the Mounjaro pen into a 2 ml vial as if you are injecting it into your belly. Then draw 1ml BAC and inject it into the vial. Don't shake the vial it will all mix by itself. There are some videos on KZfaq for splitting mounjaro
@sweethomealamanda6 ай бұрын
@@akleo78 Hi! First off I apologize for the length and if you do not want to read this, it is completely fine. However, you seemed very knowledgeable and thought that maybe you could help me with this. My doctor agreed to put me on Wegovy for weight loss, but the medication is not covered and the doctor has been giving me Ozempic samples (semaglutide, same drug as Wegovy; he only gave me one pen and I've made it last 2+ months, and it was the smallest dose, and I have lost good weight). I started it slower than it calls for (bc I have another condition that can sometimes cause issues with new meds and I started S L O W, and with Ozempic it was easy to do because you can dial the pen to the amount that you want to take). However, starting the beginning of this year he said that there was new legislation that is supposed to FINALLY cover these medications for those on it for weight loss, which is me (and whose insurance company isn't covering it at the moment, also me). Well, until that point happens he has not been able to give me another Ozempic sample, he could only get Mounjaro. Now I know it's a completely different medication and I've done all of my research and I know I have to switch over to it and not take them at the same time, all of that has been dealt with and I've talked to him about it. He's trying to get me through til my insurance (which is actually really good) will pay for it. But, I wanted to start this one slow just like I did with Ozempic. Could you tell me how to split the smallest Mounjaro dose of 2.5? I suppose I just need to split into 2 doses. I don't really understand the BAC water etc., but I'm willing to learn! Sorry for the length, I apologize, I just wanted to give some backstory. Thanks for any help you can give!
@daniellepapillion56596 ай бұрын
I’m not very good at math. I have a 10mm pen I would like to put in a vial and take a .5 shot one week and then take the rest the following week. How much bac water should I add? And do I still take .5 shot after I’ve added this water? I don’t take a bigger shot since I now have mixed it with water? Is it still as potent as it was before the water was added?
@KelliSmith-py7qs3 ай бұрын
How do I break a 12.5 mg into a 5mg and a 7.5 mg?
@p90pdack682 ай бұрын
You’re trying to split a 12.5mg/0.5mL dose, correct? You need one dose that is 7.5mg and one that is 5mg. A 7.5mg dose would be in 0.3mL. So if you’re using a diabetic syringe you would draw up 30 units. A 5mg dose would be 0.2mL, so in a diabetic syringe you would draw up 20 units. Hope this helps!
@cheryllove303010 ай бұрын
Why would bariostatic(?) water be added?
@slappy7610 ай бұрын
I inject BAC (bacteriostatic) water into the vial so it gives me more volume so I have better idea what I get.
@annpeach77424 ай бұрын
@slappy76 do you add the bac water before or after you shoot the mounjaro in the vial
@KaseyGoolsby-lf9lp9 ай бұрын
How much would I need to draw up for a 2.5 dose if my pen is 15 as well?
@OaktahaHorn-jc4fn5 ай бұрын
So if you have a 15 and you want to break it down to 2 1/2 what is the amount of units? Thank you.
@DanielleCarson-zr7kb4 ай бұрын
8 units
@Kevin-Pdog5 ай бұрын
is Reconstitution Solution needed for this?
@stevengower4 ай бұрын
I've been using 20 units of reconstitution solution in mine and injecting 20 units each time. Seems to be working fine!
@juGGaKNotEmpire8 ай бұрын
Considering the full dose in the wegovy injector is 18 clicks from start and the medicine is viable up to 6 weeks could i just turn the injector 12 clicks instead of 18 clicks so i get 6 doses from it instead of 4 ? When buying a bigger dose.
@rotatingparrot46252 ай бұрын
Damn, Americans have it rough. I'm assuming you guys do this to get lower doses for a cheaper price by buying a higher dose pen? In the UK mounjaro is £180 per month which is still an insane price and the multi use pens come with an extra does for some weird manufacturing reason but the syringe can only fire 4 times. If you're from the UK get yourself these insulin syringes to extract the free extra dose through the end of the multi use syringe, it's where you put the new needle before each use, and you got yourself a 5th dose for free :)
@kdjourney516 ай бұрын
Any concern about air in the insulin needle?
@jameesmith47715 ай бұрын
I’m a critical care nurse. It’s a subcutaneous injection so a little bit of air will not harm you.
@tonychin99004 ай бұрын
Don't go crazy, but a small amount of air is ok. The pen can certainly create bubbles when it injects quickly.
@kerryb908510 ай бұрын
Have you noticed decreased effectiveness after a week? I’ve heard on Reddit that the 1st injection works as well as the MJ pen but people notice subsequent split doses don’t work as well.
@SoCalSilverback10 ай бұрын
Zero issues as long as you store the med in the dark and in the fridge. I've been doing this for more than a year now.
@ToonzThatAreKrazy8 ай бұрын
No. Been doing it months now.
@rachelgooden99818 ай бұрын
@@SoCalSilverbackmaybe they have been diluting it with water as someone in here suggested. It will make the solution hypotonic. Thereby affecting proteins in this very sensitive drug
@PriscilaSantos-ly1dz7 ай бұрын
@@SoCalSilverbackdo you store the doses in the needles instead of the vial?
@paulcubito78955 ай бұрын
Do the pens HAVE to be stored in the refrigerator??
@justinsnyder71518 ай бұрын
I have 12.5 pens and I did this but didn’t add bariostatic water because I spilt it with my wife and we used the entire pen. I have diabetic needles 1/2ml doses up to 50 units. I wanted to take about a 5mg so I drew up 16 units what was left after i drew up her’s, wife wanted 7.5 so I drew up about 26 units for her. Does that sound about right?
@justinsnyder71518 ай бұрын
I let my wife watch your video and she figured it out by your explanation. She’s a bit smarter than me haha 😂
@daniellepapillion56596 ай бұрын
I just wonder how important it is to add the water?. I’m going to attempt to split a 10mg pen into two 5mg shots this Saturday.
@travelingaquanauts31375 ай бұрын
I have never added the BAC water to my vial. I can see if its compound powder but not sure why you would use it when added to the injector pen dose? Seems like it would dilute the dose. @@daniellepapillion5659
@kristencanapary368025 күн бұрын
Why inject the air???
@RosieG196117 күн бұрын
There’s a vacuum in the bottle. If you don’t inject air first you won’t be able to get the meds out in the syringe. It’s got to be balanced.
@sjfriedl3 ай бұрын
What kind of conversation did you have with your physician to get the 15mg dose and do it yourself?
@DebraRodman11 ай бұрын
I heard peptides are delicate. Will this damage the peptide?
@lynsheppard945510 ай бұрын
Absolutely. This guy is a hack.
@SoCalSilverback10 ай бұрын
It's commonly said that they're fragile, but this doesn't seem to cause any trouble.
@lynsheppard945510 ай бұрын
@@SoCalSilverback user name checks out
@holliemullican82478 ай бұрын
Can you share links to the needles please?
@travelingaquanauts31375 ай бұрын
I bought mine from Amazon. They are 31 gauge 8mm. I tried to order the BD brand syringes but I live in Ga and they wont ship them here (?) so I went with another brand (BH I think) but they have worked out fine for me.
@tonychin99004 ай бұрын
Any drug store
@f.l.y.l.a.60255 ай бұрын
Uhn uhn thats too much work
@michaelvarney.Ай бұрын
So was losing weight.
@michaelanthony256810 ай бұрын
You should of added water to it to double the volume
@SoCalSilverback10 ай бұрын
That's fine. It won't hurt anything if you have BAC water handy, and it'll help you scavenge the last little bit of the medicine.
@rachelgooden99818 ай бұрын
No!
@rachelgooden99818 ай бұрын
You may damage some proteins by changing the tonicity of the solution. It may render the drug ineffective.
@michaelanthony25688 ай бұрын
@@rachelgooden9981Are you a scientist?
@juicebox8532 ай бұрын
@@michaelanthony2568 Are you?
@1967mcm11 ай бұрын
Why would one need to do this?
@DawnWesche-Manwell10 ай бұрын
Well, for me, right now, there is a shortage of the lower dosages, so splitting it allows one to continue using it, but in the smaller dosages.
@dman3789 ай бұрын
You save money. In my case, I got the 7.5 mg and I'm starting at 2.5, so one pen will last three weeks instead of just one week. Essentially, it's 1/3 the cost.
@marypride52278 ай бұрын
can you please tell me how many units I need to pull on 100unit insulin pen to get a 2.5 dose ?