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[SPOILER] REVEALED: THE ACOLYTE - What's Next? Finale Review and Reaction

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@bshaddo
@bshaddo Ай бұрын
Counterpoint to one of Maude’s arguments: Casual viewers don’t know that’s Plaugueis, because they don’t know who he is. They don’t have to. They just have to know there’s an even creepier guy lurking behind the scenes. It’s a thread to follow when and if the story continues.
@1sbraina1
@1sbraina1 Ай бұрын
💯 they wisely didn’t over tell the story and the reveal will be a great add on to those who don’t know the character if there is a season 2
@ajkelly007
@ajkelly007 Ай бұрын
She said this on a channel that rose in popularity from pointing out Easter eggs. I really like Maude about as much as she dislikes this show.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Ай бұрын
​@@ajkelly007thats has nothing to do with the show people who just watched the movies would benefit knowing thats darth Plaguious. The show needed more sith acting like the show didnt doest make sense when this show was advertise to be about them.
@matilda_jane
@matilda_jane Ай бұрын
I don't really think it was necessary to write in Osha's "anger" or "hatred" into the show. As someone who has to mask a majority of myself, I know firsthand what's it like to have to act like everything is okay, all the time. Which is the position that Osha has ALWAYS been in, from the first episode. She didn't want to be a witch and was never pious enough to be a Jedi. It's a kind of a Goldilocks situation. The Stranger was just the right person to draw out Osha's true potential.
@bendfut
@bendfut Ай бұрын
Why is Maude nitpicking every little thing? Like I don't get her complaint about the helmet scene in the beginning. There were never any rules saying that the person using the helmet can't use the force on other people. In fact, Qimir does exactly that. It just prevents other force users from entering your head, not from you entering someone else's head. Or complaining about Yoda at the end? He's alive during that period, one of the masters, is a fan favorite, and is a good character to tease for the next season as he can provide guidance for Venestra. I'm sorry I just hate the automatic kneejerk negativity.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
I've been saying this for the last few episodes... Unfounded, unnecessary snide comments that make it seem like she's been personally offended by the show or something, it's crazyyy
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
Seems like she's been personally offended by this show for some reason. 80% of her criticism is literally just I don't like this because I'd rather they do this...but what they did originally was good. It's so silly.
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
It's called reviewing a badly written show. A lot of people see this show as a bad one-that's just a fact. Not all-some people love it, and that's also great. But I want a real review from all points of view. I got that here.
@jamesd5333
@jamesd5333 Ай бұрын
I don't see it as negativity. Just another point of view. I'm here for it.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@TjStrike111 She was weird. I felt she made the other 2 very uncomfortable because they wanted to discuss the ep and season not just complain. She was not needed here for those wanting actual discussion.
@lukeaustin1019
@lukeaustin1019 Ай бұрын
I feel like everyone is forgetting the point that to the rule of two is secrecy. For Qimir to just announce himself as sith goes against everything he apparently seeks. He said "You would call me a sith....." because a jedi would. I don't think he is an apprentice. He is a fallen Jedi who continued training in secret. If that is Plageus then he would still be Tenebris's apprentice scoping for Cortosis and finds Qimir.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
Some of that is likely, but we also have to make sure we're thinking about what the Sith promote and what they actually practice (specifically in terms of what's currently canon). In all shows of actual Sith operations, there have been more than 2 on their side, even if only 2 had the title of Master and Apprentice. Yes, it is about secrecy, but there is often the trend that the Apprentice wants the power so ends up seeking out their own student so they can be a master, then overthrow their master; and the Master is often wary of the apprentice's ambition (or weakness) and seeks a better apprentice.
@debso
@debso Ай бұрын
You guys are assuming a lot and running with it as facts. Osha is the acolyte, clearly. Qimir is likely venamis, a sith apprentice. An apprentice would seak an acolyte to overthrow the sith master. Plagueis is likely also a sith apprentice in this timeline under darth tenebrous. Why should they reveal everything within season 1 if they're pushing for a season 2..?
@Nightlightknight
@Nightlightknight Ай бұрын
Short of Plagueis's gratuitous Dementor-like brief appearance, one has to wonder what he's been up to all this time. If the hitherto unnamed planet is indeed Baldemnic it would make some sense for him to have remained an undetectable presence there while a source of cortosis was identified and procured for his master Tenebrous.
@Deliverance253
@Deliverance253 Ай бұрын
Are you not assuming things as while?
@JoeyAustin-ul1qb
@JoeyAustin-ul1qb Ай бұрын
​@Nightlightknight except for the fact that the cameo was actually Darth Tenebrous and not Darth Plagueis. This is clearly evident because they took the opportunity to mask most of his lower face so as to be ambiguous on the identity. Closer inspection would also reveal that his head is not long enough to be Darth Plagueis. Qimir was never a Sith. He and Osha go on to form the Knights of Ren.
@craftypacaderm2095
@craftypacaderm2095 Ай бұрын
Thank you! The amount of complaints I have seen during this show that are based on jumped to conclusions is wiiiild
@patrickgomperts6297
@patrickgomperts6297 Ай бұрын
I don't think "The Stranger" is a sith, he doesn't have yellow eyes. We saw a sith with yellow eyes, so why wouldn't the other have yellow eyes?
@TattedHokage
@TattedHokage Ай бұрын
24:21 Why would they formally introduce Darth Plagueis and tell us his origin story on top of the current Acolyte story in the first season? They gave us a glimpse of the ACTUAL bad guy and will show us more if we get season 2
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Ай бұрын
Literally because this show was supposed to be about the sith lol. Your forgetting that bud? Like the writers did
@jmclrn777
@jmclrn777 Ай бұрын
Am I the only one that felt heartbroken for Osha when she bled the crystal? It was like watching her lose her soul.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Ай бұрын
Why she did to herself she just killed her father figure without second thought. She clearly never had a soul to loose.
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter Ай бұрын
Yay, another episode of "Let's Spoonfeed Maude!"
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
hahaha so true but she can stay lol
@k.-__-
@k.-__- Ай бұрын
What? Can't agree with that one.
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter Ай бұрын
@@k.-__- Fair, I like her on most stuff.
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter
@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter Ай бұрын
@@babytoshiro7014 Honestly, agreed. Had some coffee and that's too much
@slimpanther
@slimpanther Ай бұрын
I just wish...Maude would address her nit-pickiness, it would have made her complaints more tolerable
@ddm62571
@ddm62571 Ай бұрын
As bad as the show is I'm fine with her nit- picking.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Ай бұрын
Just stop the shows horrible
@emigab
@emigab Ай бұрын
I was pretty sure the saber Osha bled WAS Sol's saber. You mention it would be cool if it was... I am quite sure it was. His was the only blue saber in that fight, and we SAW IT start blue, and turn red when she turned it on after that.
@bobby24love
@bobby24love Ай бұрын
Correct!
@bshaddo
@bshaddo Ай бұрын
And we saw it get damaged first.
@dreambuilders3308
@dreambuilders3308 Ай бұрын
This feels like they are upset every storyline wasn’t finished. While ignoring the fact that it’s a TV show trying to create long term storylines if you finish season 1 of any show with every answer why would you want to watch a second season?
@TattedHokage
@TattedHokage Ай бұрын
Exactly, Maude expected them to introduce to darth plagueis on top of the story that was being told because new fans wouldn't know who that was from a quick glimpse. We will find out more in the next season
@aquanitamcclaney5609
@aquanitamcclaney5609 Ай бұрын
Great point. And if ALL had been addressed in season 1, then it would've been "...well why did you tell us EVERYTHING in season 1? Now there's nothing left for a season 2 because all has been revealed, now what? why tell the whole story in only one season. we would've like more for the future and not be so limited. AND it messes up canon for episode 1 and doesn't connect but since they told it all in season 1 with no room to get to episode 1....blah blah blah..." No matter how it goes, some are never satisfied....
@floydrogers4921
@floydrogers4921 Ай бұрын
If your whole intention of season one is a season two then you failed at storytelling
@KimBurtonrealtor
@KimBurtonrealtor Ай бұрын
Starwars fan 2022 "Andor is well written but so boring there are no light sabers or jedi! I just want cool light saber fights, screw the story." Starwars fan 2024 " the Acolyte is crap worst star wars ever the storyline makes no sense but wow are the lightsaber fights so cool!"
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
No one hates SW more than SW fans lol
@bobby24love
@bobby24love Ай бұрын
@@babytoshiro7014 EXACTLY!
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@bobby24love And I remember how they hated the prequels and the kid and Jar Jar actor. And they also hated Andor the series at first. Now they supposedly love the prequels and Andor series lmao SW fanbase never ceases to make me laugh😂
@ibidiby1
@ibidiby1 Ай бұрын
Andor was Def well written, but was bored shitless through out. Definitely don't come to star wars for game of thrones writing. Not sure why SW fans are pretending like most of SW on film, since the first movie has been written by drunk toddlers.
@revrodgers
@revrodgers Ай бұрын
The Force is strong with you, young one!
@vincentblack7032
@vincentblack7032 Ай бұрын
I get its not the best but Muade is maaaaad the show is like a 7 - 7.5/10. If he can use the force to see while in it I think the cortosis just stops mind reading
@M..V
@M..V Ай бұрын
The show is like 4/10 for me. So bad.
@vincentblack7032
@vincentblack7032 Ай бұрын
@@M..V Amazing action, the set up was not horrible it just didn’t stick some landings. I def don’t think this show is worse then a 5 tho that’s actually disingenuous
@Quijoteb
@Quijoteb Ай бұрын
Peeps we criticize films for feeding us answers as we are dumb. When a show lets us figure out that that OSHA is struggling and will make the turn now is a problem that they didn’t esplain this?
@TheDreamingDays
@TheDreamingDays Ай бұрын
So true, there is so much 'stop spelling everything out to the audience, but WAIT why didn't they spell this out for us?' It's silly.
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 Ай бұрын
💯 There's a reason most shows spell things out in crayon like the audience is dumb.
@AirDave15
@AirDave15 Ай бұрын
8:42 the kid who always has to be right in class energy 😂 Brandon’s just like “wtf?”
@Deplorableprogressive
@Deplorableprogressive Ай бұрын
Maude has been acting like an armchair quarterback like the rest of the internet. Smh
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
Yup, notice it lmao
@DimirDaddy
@DimirDaddy Ай бұрын
I just feel like there is at least 2 episodes missing from the show
@woody9437
@woody9437 Ай бұрын
I feel like there were 8 too many episodes to this show
@OneRandomVictory
@OneRandomVictory Ай бұрын
It's cause 2 of the episodes should have been folded into other episodes (3 and 7, 4 and 5).
@brandonp987
@brandonp987 Ай бұрын
Yeah it definitely felt like there should’ve been more explained because none of the big surprises or payoffs felt earned. Also, the pacing and what they chose to focus on at times felt weird. Like the show was slow but felt rushed at the same time
@samuelballard3467
@samuelballard3467 Ай бұрын
Maude, ive defended your criticism in a lot of these episodes. But you just said to show not tell then, said i wish she wouldve said one line when bleeding saber. Give me some firepower when defending you love ❤😂
@bobby24love
@bobby24love Ай бұрын
Right?! I didn't get those comments. Why do people want a dialogue of what you know? What series excatly makes sense?
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@bobby24love Her comments of 'show don't tell' was pretty lame. Is she that slow she can't keep up with a scifi/fantasy show lol
@LordJaySwing
@LordJaySwing Ай бұрын
She doesn’t need your defending, love.
@k.-__-
@k.-__- Ай бұрын
They didn't show or tell what Osha was thinking in this part. They only showed the 'yes, cool' bleeding, and that was it.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@bobby24love If they had done what she had suggested then she would say, well I don't think they needed that dialogue there lol
@randyrodriguez2398
@randyrodriguez2398 Ай бұрын
Venestra doesn't know about the vergeance, Sol never said anything about that cause he didn't have proofs he said, she probably told Yoda what happened, the lie she had to say to calm things with the senate and that she thinks her ex padawan is responsible, a fallen Jedi, no Sith to worry about
@sndhigh
@sndhigh Ай бұрын
That’s a good point
@benoitjohnson2777
@benoitjohnson2777 Ай бұрын
Was Maude up to Write and Direct this season and didn't get it? Why the salt? Still love the content!
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
She was nitpicking and talking about quality and yet her ideas were boring and the same thing we seen before a 1000 times in SW and other properties🤣
@Lillian.Gao.
@Lillian.Gao. Ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I hate singling her out almost every Star Wars panel she is on… but every panel she has come off embittered and negative to the point of isolating her fellow panelists. Her energy just does not gel with the others’ who are trying to keep the tone upbeat even during criticisms.
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
I like people reviewing what they saw. I'm sorry, but some of those ideas sounded much better to me than what was in the show.
@jamesd5333
@jamesd5333 Ай бұрын
I'm glad this isn't the Everything Is Awesome crew. I watch these to hear other people's points of view.
@craftypacaderm2095
@craftypacaderm2095 Ай бұрын
​@@Lillian.Gao.Agreed! I just finished the series and came to watch for the first time and was so turned off by the negativity. 😢
@jamesd5333
@jamesd5333 Ай бұрын
Maude reviewing Star Wars is the reason I'm here. Someone who loves the universe and is not blind to the problems. Thank you for your honest opinions.
@freddyfaerie3499
@freddyfaerie3499 Ай бұрын
I hope season 2 opens with the reveal that its actually Yaddle shes speaking to
@ibidiby1
@ibidiby1 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 Ай бұрын
That would be great.
@annfran3543
@annfran3543 Ай бұрын
She had long hair, red/brown in tales of the Jedi so definitely Yoda.
@freddyfaerie3499
@freddyfaerie3499 Ай бұрын
@@annfran3543 um what?
@revrodgers
@revrodgers Ай бұрын
I really believe there was nothing for Maude that would have made her love the episode. Her words for this entire series was, “I would have wished…”.
@Lillian.Gao.
@Lillian.Gao. Ай бұрын
@@revrodgers yes, she came in with predetermined bias, which sadly makes it difficult to swallow even her valid criticisms
@icoborg
@icoborg Ай бұрын
@@Lillian.Gao. hell no..the entire episode dialogue is ridiculous..
@Lillian.Gao.
@Lillian.Gao. Ай бұрын
@@icoborg that’s got nothing to do with the point we are making
@TheDreamingDays
@TheDreamingDays Ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't like it when people watch shows with the "I would have told the story THIS way, and I'm upset they are not telling it the way I want it in my head" mentality. Instead of watching the show as is. Meet the story where it's at, instead of basically wishing it were an entirely different show. At that point you should be writing your own stories or watching something else. I get that this is Maude's job though, so to be fair, it is a bit different in her case.
@AlSween
@AlSween Ай бұрын
The moral of the story is that Osha wanted a lightsaber without being a Jedi.
@Amplifymagic
@Amplifymagic Ай бұрын
strong independent Padawan, need no Master.
@breakthroughsounds6863
@breakthroughsounds6863 Ай бұрын
Don't we all though.
@emigab
@emigab Ай бұрын
Maybe the helmet doesn't block the force in the way the witches connect to it. Also, I think her choking Sol WHILE bleeding the kyber is her channeling that anger. We can't expect her to display her anger the same way Anakin does.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
True. That was a silly nitpick
@asholmes
@asholmes Ай бұрын
I think Maude is overly negative - seems like she’s looking for reasons not to like it as much. Causes inaccuracies. For example she stated she wanted more emotion when Osha turned like Anakin. But there was none at his turn. No yelling and screaming when he turned and killed Windu, or the younglings or when he first arrived on Mustafar. It was actually very similar until he faced Obiwan.
@sndhigh
@sndhigh Ай бұрын
Yeah, if you wanna talk about people turning to the dark side in a lackluster way. This is a bit oversimplified, but anakin was basically just like “yeah, ok” - at least in the movies. You see a lot more in TCW. I think Maude is entitled to her opinion and I think it gives this break room episode a more of a balanced approach. It’s good to hear someone dislike the show without resorting to being terrible towards people. Ok, that went on too long and I got off topic 😅
@myafelicia
@myafelicia Ай бұрын
I think Maude wanted to hear more whining like Ani did until he turned? Maybe Maude is used to think and feel that "whining" is "being emotional"? I agree with you: she is overly negative (and not critical) and is clearly nitpicking, and it makes me wonder wat she actually likes in the SW universe.
@ceezyjeffezy2213
@ceezyjeffezy2213 Ай бұрын
If Qimir had manipulated Ohsa it would have been a pale imitation of Anakin’s fall. I like how in this situation the Jedi were exactly what Anakin would accuse them to be falsely. Osha didn’t need a push.
@Ronariverah
@Ronariverah Ай бұрын
You don't need to know who "the mysterious" person is. We didn’t know who The Stranger was. He is just big and bad.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
Literally...
@H_D_Walker
@H_D_Walker Ай бұрын
Fr! Even we don't know what's that planet was. They never told us. It's still the "UNKNOWN PLANET"
@timtoe40
@timtoe40 Ай бұрын
Qimir did tell Mae that his Master collects things. He just didn't tell Osha about his master
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
Qimir also told her that while pretending he and the Stranger weren't the same person, so even if it was true about Plaqueis, he was selling her the idea that "Master" = "Stranger"
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything Ай бұрын
Qimir said "he collects people" and that Mae is aware of that fact. I'm wondering if the version of the island that Osha saw was staged as a 1-on-1 so that she didn't see anyone else that was there.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
@@AllGreyEverything It works multiple ways if they wanted it to, but it all comes back to Mae and Osha never knowing about Plagueis one way ot the other. Whether that is: A) Plagueis is Qimir's master (unrevealed) B) Plagueis is Qimir's apprentice (slim chance Qimir's real name will be Tenebrous) C) Neither Qimir or Plagueis were acquainted before this (unlikely, but not impossible)
@ShawnSchnoblen
@ShawnSchnoblen Ай бұрын
Did anyone else think that the person that Vernestra was talking to, on the comlink on Corusant, sounded like Palpatine?
@H_D_Walker
@H_D_Walker Ай бұрын
Right?? As soon as I heard that voice I felt it was young Palpatine's voice 😂
@revrodgers
@revrodgers Ай бұрын
New drinking game…drink when Maude says, “What would have been…”
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 Ай бұрын
Alcohol poisoning 😵
@graveytraingt6834
@graveytraingt6834 Ай бұрын
**PRETTY LONG MESSAGE. DON'T READ IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO** Maude's responses are starting to display, someone who invalidates others' emotions or how they would handle certain things in certain environments, other than their own. I recognize this with how she describes how Mae and Osha should react in their environments. There are alot of people in this world who handle their life and emotions DIFFERENTLY. And this may not be the case for Osha, but there are people who know how to control their emotions or repress them, even when they have dealt with extreme situations or environments. A lot of people control or repress their emotions in different ways, and there are others who end up becoming implosive. Which implosive is what I got from Osha, and even that could be displayed different ways that may not always be spelled out, and can catch someone off guard. Not everybody is going to show the signs like Anakin Skywalker. Some people can tell you they're angry and still show restraint, and I mean alot or restraint. And to mix in with that, we come to this crossing point where we can't always do the same thing when it comes to someone's emotions in movies, or shows, because we should be showing variety. At the same time, we end up having this bias towards how people should conduct themselves, because we become too oblivious about the variety and nature of people, and are not accepting as we pretend to be. Maude really takes it home like it's a complete shutdown on how someone should be. People are not always the people you read in books or you see in movies or shows of the past. People are people, and that complication of people is rarely explored because we have our own bias. The dialogue, yes, may not always be great from the series, but how the people reacted or acted in the series is not different than how many people act in the real world. And I applaud Brandon everytime he came on this week, for this segment. It always seems like he tries to observe and understand people's nature when observing.
@chepscity393
@chepscity393 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t anyone remember Mae asking The Stranger about his master, and he says, “he likes to collect people!” THAT IS PLAGUEIS!!!
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
What you may be forgetting there is that at the time, Mae did not know Qimir was Darth Smiley/the Stranger. She never saw him without his helmet and thought Qimir was just another pawn used for intel and goods. Plaqueis is completely unknown to Mae; Qimir trains with him secretly by that cave then meets Mae elsewhere and trains her disguised as the Stranger the entire time; then when he sent her on her trials he sent her to 'another' associate: himself! At this stage he is undisguised and posing as a less opposing figure, an apothecary and smuggler, who pretends that his Stranger form is his master who "...collects people." Had Mae proven her worth, he would only then take her to Plaqueis. The question is only whether he would be taking her there to try to kill Plagueis and seize more power, or if it is all in service to Plaqueis.
@timtoe40
@timtoe40 Ай бұрын
I remember. Since Osha didn't agree to join him on Baldemnic, there was no reason to tell her about his master
@TattedHokage
@TattedHokage Ай бұрын
@@chepscity393 I know you see the person that debunked your statement; what do you have to say to that?
@HectorZamarron-hp5yk
@HectorZamarron-hp5yk Ай бұрын
I think there is some truth to that , it might be clever writing when he says “he collects people” It think we are meant to go back and rethink what quimir said at that moment , knowing plagious is here.
@ceezyjeffezy2213
@ceezyjeffezy2213 Ай бұрын
Aniseya and the Senator: You’re self righteous noble intentions are going to lead to ruin. Maude: Venestra still lying is stupid. Facepalm
@camryngalvan5920
@camryngalvan5920 Ай бұрын
when i tell you, i was waiting for this vid to drop today because break room after shows are how i get through a rough day at work 😅 love you guys !!🤘🏼
@Lillian.Gao.
@Lillian.Gao. Ай бұрын
Maude has a habit of looking for the negatives first in everything she reviews on this channel (And at times her snarkiness was downright spiteful)…. This show had some high highs and some low lows, and I wish she would have mentioned the highlights more - it would give more credit to her criticisms. Poor Tom was visibly uncomfortable during some of her barbs, making this another panel with Maude that was hard to get through.
@k.-__-
@k.-__- Ай бұрын
Acolyte had highs? Couldn't find them myself. Good for you, you could.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
You said it in a nutshell, feels like she was personally offended by the show or something? Really weird vibes throughout, even when they were praising the light saber fights you could tell she was restrained
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
There are overwhelmingly many negatives in this show. It wouldn't be a problem if it were better written and acted. 🤷
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@adam_p132 Yeah because suddenly no one was bashing Andor the series when it first came out nor the prequels🙄
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
She made the whole panel uncomfortable imo.
@GerrianLebron
@GerrianLebron Ай бұрын
Maude wants a 5 star course meal.. Spoon feed to her lol
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 Ай бұрын
💯
@Philly_T
@Philly_T Ай бұрын
Ima sorry but respectfully, I disagree with everything Maude has said. Why would I want every question I have answered in the first season??? It makes people want to watch the next season. It’s not perfect but definitely better than she has made it seem all season.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
She wasn't trying to discuss things, she wanted to rant. She should had stayed home.
@M..V
@M..V Ай бұрын
Not every question. But one would be good. The problem is it seems like the writers don't have answers for themselves in this show. Nothing in the story makes sense or has internal logic.
@captain.awesome4172
@captain.awesome4172 24 күн бұрын
Nah, she spot on with most of her rants. Love it
@MrJOKERZ68
@MrJOKERZ68 Ай бұрын
Someone needs to erase Maudes' memory lol
@TheDreamingDays
@TheDreamingDays Ай бұрын
I don't like The Acolyte much, BUT - 'It would have been better if Osha bled Sol's saber' - she did. - The Plagueis cameo is clearly set up for future seasons (if we get one). Putting glimmers of future story lines in a finale has been a standard for shows since TV has existed. I don't get the issue, other than 'I want everything explained to me now, instant gratification style'. The casual audience doesn't need to know his identity, they can have fun speculating over it. - During the Osha-Qimir vision, his eyes were black the way that receding hairline jedi's was when Mother Anaseya was projecting into his head, so it's reasonable to presume Osha is projecting to him. It is established that Cortosis blocks the outside from coming in, but not vice versa. Nothing suggests that force powers cannot be used from within, so there is no inconsistency. -'Osha was contained with her emotions the whole time' - no she wasn't. She expressed clear rage and cried multiple times throughout the episode. Not sure what you wanted from her here?
@marjoe32
@marjoe32 Ай бұрын
I cant make 20 minutes this entire season. Of these reviews, have your opinions but what a Mood killer. Why would i want to finish the video let alone sit through the ad read. Be Critics all you want just realize you alienate a potion ofnthe audience who wants to be here and now wont.
@samuelballard3467
@samuelballard3467 Ай бұрын
What even are you saying
@sundaysmiley
@sundaysmiley Ай бұрын
​@samuelballard3467 maybe he is translating it from Google, maybe we can reverse this. What is his original language?!😅
@icoborg
@icoborg Ай бұрын
@@samuelballard3467 ​ @sundaysmiley he was using the style of the series itself.
@jesuswithouttheu
@jesuswithouttheu Ай бұрын
I had a lot of issues with the show but mainly just the writing. Also, At the beginning Osha told Qimir that she could see Mae with her hand outstretched to kill Sol, and we took it at face value because the next thing we see is Mae reaching to taze Sol with Pip, but upon a second watch, i think she was actually seeing her future self when she kills Sol, because her and Mae are technically the same person and her force choking him makes more sense as the "hand outstretched to kill him" vision she saw because despite looking identical, she had no reason to believe it was herself.
@hotshotfps
@hotshotfps Ай бұрын
idk what Maudes problem w this show is... I think its good. Not something thats gonna get an Oscar but its good for Star Wars TV.
@k.-__-
@k.-__- Ай бұрын
Glad you like it. It might be the worst SW show ever with storytelling and writing for me. No logic in this.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
​@k.-__-hahahha you're so wrong
@H_D_Walker
@H_D_Walker Ай бұрын
Exactly. Is it perfect? No. It has some flaws but that's the nature of starwars. She is overly negative with the show
@JMurfling
@JMurfling Ай бұрын
I enjoyed the frank discussion, and I LOVE Maud's X-wing shirt
@MJ-sf9xh
@MJ-sf9xh Ай бұрын
Maude is totally right! LOVE her so much! This show needed a bit ....'more'. Underdeveloped characters and plot points scattered all over the place. I like the show but I really wanted to love it. The fights were the best part but need more cohesion to get excited about future seasons.
@therealangelosettler
@therealangelosettler Ай бұрын
I'm fine with not knowing everything that's not a negative to me
@hempracer
@hempracer Ай бұрын
During Osha's and Mae's witch ceremony in Episode 3, an unknown person was standing off to the side. When the Jedi arrived, this person immediately left. Could this have been Plagueus?
@Seb_X
@Seb_X Ай бұрын
Thank you for all the points. Great panel.
@markcohen7991
@markcohen7991 Ай бұрын
Video awesome. Together, you are awesome. Maude , you are amazing. LLAP 🖖
@debso
@debso Ай бұрын
Venamis is an excellent light Saber duelist and we see it with qimir. He moves unpredictability and with precision. Ppl assume he's outclassed by sol but it's literally the same thing as Palpatine vs mace windu. It's strategic for them to fake being vulnerable to turn a light side user to the dark. How do ppl not catch this..?
@isit_me
@isit_me Ай бұрын
Maude is in this! I'm watching!
@francisco_m7849
@francisco_m7849 Ай бұрын
😮 the core problem with Star Wars as a movie or television franchise is that they made it too dependent on the core story of the original three movies and the characters in it. Rogue one and Andor are really good shows but general fans for some reason cannot get behind it. Obi-Wan, I will admit was kind of rough, did better because it is a Star Wars original character based movie. Solo the movie in general did not get a good reception because it wasn’t a character that the audience recognized obviously, the character was Han Solo but the actor didn’t look anything close to what Harrison Ford looks like, and they were taken out of the fantasy for them
@JosephLoRe
@JosephLoRe Ай бұрын
Worst take by this channel since I started watching. This was awesome and everyone's biggest complaint is quite literally that we didn't get enough...
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
Yeah. This was a weird breakroom. Its like Brandon was the only one who wasn't feeling the constant complaining. You could tell.
@JosephLoRe
@JosephLoRe Ай бұрын
@@babytoshiro7014 we knew going into it how many episodes we were getting and I think they did a great job with the storytelling, a few things could have been clarified further, nothing to take away from the over arching narrative or the amount of fun crammed into these episodes. Yes, it would have benefited from extended run times and more episodes , but what wouldn't? This was cool and a really good contrast to the other stories streamed to date. I hope it gets at least another season. Manny Jacinto's lightsaber work deserves a other season.
@PuNkD-j8u
@PuNkD-j8u Ай бұрын
Fine if you like it, saying that's everyone's biggest complaint? There is a whoole lot more complaints then that.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
Facts, especially Maude.
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
Not everyone's. Acolyte was so bad. I wanted less. Preferably, no Osha and Mae at all.
@mgvortex66
@mgvortex66 Ай бұрын
It was pretty freaking obvious Venestra was seeing the past crime scene when they landed
@kingmj87
@kingmj87 Ай бұрын
I liked the show, and usually disagreed with Maude on previous episodes, but most of her criticisms in this one I agree with. The type of screenwriting 101 issues that she has with the show are something that’s plagued nearly every Star Wars project going back to at least the prequels, but that doesn’t excuse them, and instead only makes it more important for the fanbase to let Lucasfilm know they’re fed up with it. That said, it really really feels as though the issue here wasn’t that the script was lazy, but that it was overwritten by too many cooks, likely being a victim of the studio system.
@marjoe32
@marjoe32 Ай бұрын
I loved the show, the finally felt very cinematic
@Jamine007
@Jamine007 Ай бұрын
My favorite alien species from this show is definitely the Skura. I’m surprised y’all didn’t mention them, they’re just small and cute. Rayencourt’s read of the Jedi is 1000% accurate. I also agree with the points Maude brought out, the show could’ve put out more.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
Maude basically wanted the same SW and cookie cutter scenes of Sith manipuation that we all seen before. Gladly we didnt get that. I'm sorry nothing she nitpick about was original.
@TjStrike111
@TjStrike111 Ай бұрын
Agreed heavily. Awful breakroom tbh
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
I saw good points in there.
@jamesd5333
@jamesd5333 Ай бұрын
Maude wanted a good SW show. Most of us didn't get that, but some did, and I'm happy for those. I don't see bringing up the story problems, character motivations, and acting as nitpicking.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@TjStrike111 This. If you listen. She was nitpicking over petty stuff constantly. It would had been better to hear Osha scream 'you kill my mom' to which the panel explain she was saying that. She nitpick the crytstal bleed as wanting more soul pour into it lmao wtf. Paraphasing. Then she was sighing, huffing and puffing, and making weird faces throughout the video. Very unprofessional behavior. If it was a child doing that, we be saying they need to sit in the corner or take a nap😂😂 You don't have to like or hate something to have a simple discussion. Look at the other videos of her discussing things and whether she agree or disagree. Very very different than what you got here. Just saying.
@JuYuMa
@JuYuMa Ай бұрын
Maude, as always on point. See, you can be a nice person and dislike and criticize the show. That's called having an opinion.
@adam_p132
@adam_p132 Ай бұрын
Thank you! Feels like some people are allergic to criticism these days.
@onthelevel222
@onthelevel222 Ай бұрын
Maude, it’s only 8 episodes. They can’t show everything. Is it so hard to believe that an older padawan (Osha) had a hard time and anger issues because what she went through with her family? Did we really have to spend time seeing that?
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
Also it's not hard to think Osha could have power to be on par, she is part of the vergerce(sp?) and Maude even nitpick the lightsaber bleed scene which I thought was cool bc it's new to me.
@21sled
@21sled Ай бұрын
@@babytoshiro7014yeah imagine trying to nitpick one of the coolest live actions scenes ever
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@21sled Yeah I usually don't mind nitpicks bc mine is they killed Jecki and Yord too soon. But Maude nitpicks were petty.
@causewhynot6485
@causewhynot6485 Ай бұрын
I'm team Maude on this, plus it's nice that everyone has different things to say! It's a real conversation, but the one thing I will say is this is some of my favourite fighting in all of Star Wars
@juanpablo5021
@juanpablo5021 Ай бұрын
I, for once, agree with Maud 100%
@MyUnsecretIdentity
@MyUnsecretIdentity Ай бұрын
Bazil sabotaged the ship to save Pip ... Only reason i can think of 😂
@YetiVlogs
@YetiVlogs Ай бұрын
More than once when they talked about the vergence they were looking up at the moons in near alignment. I am guessing its several force rich bodies coming into alignment focusing multiple power sources onto one location allowing for unimaginable things through the force.
@W1ll88
@W1ll88 Ай бұрын
I agree with your thoughts on them possibly using the prophecy as motivation for Sol and why he really wanted to "Save" Osha but I think they didn't do it because of toxic fans. Leslie did that interview where she specifically said they weren't created in the same way as Anakin and aren't as powerful and I think Disney knew and were afraid of upsetting those fans so they went with something else.
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything Ай бұрын
Mae killed one person-Indara. That woman killed all of her aunties, so that was pretty justified in my book.
@M..V
@M..V Ай бұрын
Have to agree with Maude. Acolyte was not it.
@AlSween
@AlSween Ай бұрын
I'm feeling like Maude.
@Ronariverah
@Ronariverah Ай бұрын
Star Wars is Truly a soap
@AlSween
@AlSween Ай бұрын
I wonder why the closed captions went from calling dude, Qihmir to stranger.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
His "true" persona is The Stranger, "Qimir" is an act he puts on to seem like a harmless apothecary smuggler and information broker. He may have even had another name entirely when he was Vernestra's padawan.
@AirDave15
@AirDave15 Ай бұрын
I was stoked after this finale. After visiting reel rejects and now this my hype has completely washed away. This is supposed to be mandatory fun!!! 😢
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
Nah, it was a good finale to a good season for me. Totally stuck the landing.
@sleinadb
@sleinadb Ай бұрын
If you liked it you can like it. I did and yet I still love watching these after shows for different points of view. Disagree with some of their opinions...and it makes me think differently in some ways. But I STILL like it.
@bajansamurai
@bajansamurai Ай бұрын
​@@babytoshiro7014completely fair. In my opinion it was a good finale for what it was. The flaws people clocked throughout the season were 50% legit, 20% reading too much into certain things and 30% misunderstanding/missing what was given. That 50% legit stuff concerns stiff acting, narrative choices, pacing, character decisions, contrived conveniences, and the like, but those aren't always the concerns of the average viewer, so it is easier for some to follow along and just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that, but for those that pick up on those things more, it is hard to overlook and takes away a lot of potential enjoyment.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@bajansamurai That wasn't even 50% because the "stiff acting wasn't all the time, the narrative wasn't that bad, and the rest you stated also wasn't imo. 70% of this show was servicable to good imo. This show just wasn't that bad. The toxic fan base has no legs to stand on since they were review bombing before the first ep even aired.
@ibidiby1
@ibidiby1 Ай бұрын
​@@bajansamuraialso "not waiting for the show to actually answer questions". So many points people were bringing up could be answered with "the show isn't finished yet". All in all they stuck the landing answered outstanding questions, and left the right things open for season 2
@TheJlongie
@TheJlongie Ай бұрын
Really refreshing to see Maude fully standing by her thoughts on the show - respect it greatly
@YetiVlogs
@YetiVlogs Ай бұрын
I was under the impression that the motivation for splitting 1 being into 2 was to create the ultimate "Power of 2" system as the were being taught in one of the early episodes. Their whole thing was power in numbers. And 2 identicals should function together flawlessly unless their minds develop to desire different things. Thereby causing all this strife.
@breakthroughsounds6863
@breakthroughsounds6863 Ай бұрын
I love how Maude says "Kimeeeeah" (qimir) its so cool.
@timmoore8623
@timmoore8623 Ай бұрын
As usual the main character who hasn’t used the force in years magically wields the force to force choke a Jedi master. May trained constantly but was scared of buff boy but Osha can beat a Jedi master????
@multiversehq
@multiversehq Ай бұрын
Darth Plaug Deez Nutz 😂
@jimmybryant2187
@jimmybryant2187 Ай бұрын
It was decent. Not as good as Andor or Ashoka and mando and much better than boba get and Obi wan. Come at me.
@alexandersmith4125
@alexandersmith4125 Ай бұрын
@@jimmybryant2187 I agree. Although I was more intrigued by this show than ahsoka. Ngl
@jimmybryant2187
@jimmybryant2187 Ай бұрын
@@alexandersmith4125 agreed but felt the same at the end of them both 😂
@ibidiby1
@ibidiby1 Ай бұрын
Definitely not 15% on rotten. Think the fans exposed themselves as irrational on that one. Not going to believe SW audience RT reviews in the future.
@jimmybryant2187
@jimmybryant2187 Ай бұрын
@@ibidiby1 I had no idea it was that low?! That’s silly. It’s mid like the rest of recent Star Wars. Star Wars fans are the worst….
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 Ай бұрын
@@ibidiby1 Way way above 15%. It's easily in the high 60-70% but RT never decides whats good or bad for me.
@khaleesidire3367
@khaleesidire3367 Ай бұрын
I really liked the action scenes and some of the ideas presented, but felt like there could’ve been better writing and dialogue.
@ikediamond
@ikediamond Ай бұрын
Andor is superbly written and og Stars Wars know that it leads directly to Rogue 1, A New Hope, and to Anakin Skywalker’s destruction of the Death Star
@davidsanchez-wx8wu
@davidsanchez-wx8wu Ай бұрын
I think bazil stopped Sol because because mae and OSHA smell the same so he's worried that he was trying to hurt her because he can't tell the difference because they're the same person
@jayhoav2120
@jayhoav2120 Ай бұрын
feels like Maude was saying the show is bad withouth saying the show is bad. thet majority of the budget got lost in the Matrix ctfu
@remyhatfield3066
@remyhatfield3066 Ай бұрын
Maude is out for blood today
@M..V
@M..V Ай бұрын
Good, Good.
@kylecarter1599
@kylecarter1599 Ай бұрын
The worst part of the finale was Vernestra promising resolution and not delivering anything except more setup
@seanrobinson8676
@seanrobinson8676 Ай бұрын
But she knows who stith is we don't hopefully we find out in season 2
@kylecarter1599
@kylecarter1599 Ай бұрын
@seanrobinson8676 if you don't know who the Sith is you're not a Star Wars fan
@williamloenhorst5805
@williamloenhorst5805 Ай бұрын
I think we needed at least 1 or 2 episodes to answer these questions
@ShakirBaruka-dz1ze
@ShakirBaruka-dz1ze Ай бұрын
There was that line between Maye and Osha not knowing where their little song came from. One of them even says, “I thought it was you that made it up”. Perhaps it was Mother Aniseya that said it, maybe as a part of the creation process, an incantation of sorts
@markbell6330
@markbell6330 Ай бұрын
Also i love the theory kimir was in control of Oshas turning
@ericag7434
@ericag7434 Ай бұрын
Everything Maude said!
@SethRGray
@SethRGray Ай бұрын
Maude is right on several things, but primarily about needing Plagueis early. There's no urgency to Qimir's pursuit of Mae. It never really feels like he's trying to kill her after she breaks their deal. The knowledge that there IS someone out there who will punish Qimir if HE doesn't punish HER would have given that some actual weight.
@heathermackenzie7670
@heathermackenzie7670 Ай бұрын
Darth Maude on point with the commentary again.
@toastedteddybear
@toastedteddybear Ай бұрын
we also have no idea if plagueis is his master or if plagueis was scouting a rogue sith
@ICE-je9cz
@ICE-je9cz Ай бұрын
We still have no clue what mother anasaya was smoke monstering into or how mae would have been affected by it. If we would have seen where korel ended up it could have explained a little
@inmaudewetrust
@inmaudewetrust Ай бұрын
make it make sense
@BEETTHESE
@BEETTHESE Ай бұрын
If season 2 happens, I would personally like to see Qimir and Osha training to challenge Darth Plagiues for the title of Sith Lord and what not but when they do (at the midway point of the season) Plagiues just laughs and introduces his true apprentice Darth Sidious. Rest of season is Plagiues and Palpatine hunting down Osha and Qimir while we learn about the sith.
@alohapinay8701
@alohapinay8701 Ай бұрын
Qimir was able to use the force to slow the Jedi down while fighting in the earlier episodes. So the helmet force rules are confusing AF
@timmy42277
@timmy42277 Ай бұрын
Darth “Play-Gee-Us”?!? Really Brandon!
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 Ай бұрын
The lady's nitpicking is off the charts!! I think she may have set a world record.
@jairmorales2017
@jairmorales2017 Ай бұрын
I wish that ppl that just shit on the show were able to articulate their points like Maude does. She highlights what was good and she breaks down what was bad.
@kamotrof
@kamotrof Ай бұрын
It was the same lightsaber that killed her mom, but how fast she bled it was kind of lame. The only other example was when Vader did it and it was a massive massive battle. If how she bled this saber is true, then why wasn’t Anakin’s saber bled during his killing of the younglings?
@bijhazrati8223
@bijhazrati8223 Ай бұрын
At least this show was better than episodes 7-9…
@mrp1326
@mrp1326 Ай бұрын
"Young advantures of Sheev Palpatine" would be awesome 😂 Also Mog is probably Palpitane: first he suggested Sol to be responsible for everything and then he let senator into control room "by mistake".
@sndhigh
@sndhigh Ай бұрын
As far as the Plagueis, Qimir, OSHA (and Tenebrous) thing goes, the Sith always had a ton of plates spinning in their grand plan. Plagueis may not have even have revealed who he was to Qimir. Just said he was a dark side user who then used Qimir to further the agenda. And then the whole Qimir/Osha spinoff would be something different - either that or Plagueis kills them 🤷🏼‍♂️ just a thought
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