Spoke Maintenance on your Motorcycle

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2 жыл бұрын

Maintaining your spokes is a big deal. Especially on dirt bikes, where you are having repeated impacts, it can not only save your wheel but prevent crashes as well.
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@rl7880
@rl7880 2 жыл бұрын
Grabbing the two spokes is such a great idea. I always hated losing my place half way around the wheel and having to go back and count it out. This makes it one-two buckle your shoe.
@robertwoods2505
@robertwoods2505 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Jay! Love the grab two idea. Thanks for sharing.
@benr7002
@benr7002 2 ай бұрын
I just ordered some replacement spokes and a torque wrench. Staying up on this will definitely save me money in the long run
@dr.x4050
@dr.x4050 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Adjusting spokes is not a big mystery to me anymore.
@jaredamoroso8273
@jaredamoroso8273 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and couldn't have came at a better time. Came off the track last weekend and had some spokes that needed attended to.
@jrod1076
@jrod1076 2 жыл бұрын
I need to do this on my bikes. Ty for showing me how to do it properly
@mad4dog27.xclips5
@mad4dog27.xclips5 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the info,,just done mine and quite a few where loose :)
@Heartlanddualsport
@Heartlanddualsport Жыл бұрын
Nicely done on this video sir, I have added a dual sport to my channel, I have not announced it yet, but I am sure you can guess its a fun bike since I am watching all your tips and tricks videos. Thanks again and keep up the great work sir. dale
@1176hambone
@1176hambone Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jay!
@mikehillion3333
@mikehillion3333 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for The tips
@TheSlikstik
@TheSlikstik 2 жыл бұрын
Great vids, makes my days so much better :)
@brentv7299
@brentv7299 2 жыл бұрын
Another great tech tip guys - thanks!
@jeremy_beckers
@jeremy_beckers 9 ай бұрын
Even though this is super easy to do I always forget the pattern. Thank you so much
@DonGH97
@DonGH97 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir👍🏻
@DonGH97
@DonGH97 10 ай бұрын
Did you let the air out of the tire or is is not necessary? Thanks for the video, appreciate all the help🤘🏻
@vaughanscott7308
@vaughanscott7308 Жыл бұрын
Best spoke vid on the net.
@Rideskishore
@Rideskishore 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thx
@LifeWideOpen780
@LifeWideOpen780 2 жыл бұрын
You're awesome man!
@juliansimon5243
@juliansimon5243 Жыл бұрын
Does this toque wrench have a predetermined setting? Or can you adjust it?
@WillyD1
@WillyD1 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had a brand new ktm spokes spin sometimes you got to hold back on the spoke
@juliocorleto8054
@juliocorleto8054 Жыл бұрын
Dude your awesome
@biff1tannen
@biff1tannen Жыл бұрын
Thanks😊👍
@prockydude
@prockydude 2 жыл бұрын
Does this only apply of the rim is new, if an older rim that got a few knocks needed spokes, is it ok to pull a little harder on some to straighten the rim?
@spencerclark2269
@spencerclark2269 2 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff!
@danielash3749
@danielash3749 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get that torque/spoke wrench? What's it called?
@dougkubash8673
@dougkubash8673 5 ай бұрын
Good video!
@DorkBunns35
@DorkBunns35 Ай бұрын
If I have this issue, and have attempted to correct it but instead made it much worse, will loosening all the spokes act as a reset? Then going through and torquing them down to reach proper true?
@lospanchos68
@lospanchos68 2 жыл бұрын
Not finished with video so you might answer the question I am about to ask, how many inch pounds or foot pounds are you using? I know the manual has a recommendation but last time I used there recommendations my front wheel started to wobble. I ride yamahas, good job on your videos, I watch your tire change video as I am changing tires, I have become really good at it but it’s just habit at this point 👍🏽
@MOTOCOOP
@MOTOCOOP 2 жыл бұрын
Application may very.. but I believe around 48 inch-pound .you can google your application or check with local shop for specs
@expozure_in_the_elements
@expozure_in_the_elements 3 ай бұрын
You guys have a link for that spoke wrench that you're using in the video there's no way to find it there's no links for it I checked on Amazon they don't have it, are we supposed to get this tool if it's not available on the Rocky mountain ATV site, and it's not available on Amazon so are we supposed to just fabricate this tool with hopes and dreams?
@bikelifewithalex120
@bikelifewithalex120 Жыл бұрын
Tusk around $103 for this tool at Rocky Mountain
@AntiStressKit
@AntiStressKit 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. How do you validate that the spokes are not overtightened?
@mankindsdisease
@mankindsdisease 2 жыл бұрын
Because you used a torque wrench
@richm4402
@richm4402 8 ай бұрын
AntiStressKit makes a good point, the torque wrench clicked for the majority of the spokes. This means the spokes are at least tightened to the pre set torque of the torque wrench setting. Doesn’t verify the spokes aren’t overtightened, if you’re the original owner of the bike you can safely assume the spokes were set correctly at the factory and proceed checking them this way. However, if you’re unsure of the history of the bike I would loosen them quarter of a turn and re-check torque. Also a good opportunity to do a little wheel truing if necessary.
@Mac-bn
@Mac-bn Жыл бұрын
Nice content, is the set you using suitable for CRF250L 2014 spoke wheels and SM Wheel?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Email Jay. Contact info in About tab.
@Nico-ww9lg
@Nico-ww9lg Жыл бұрын
How should i start? So right now a few of my back tire spokes are so loose that they move side to side in the rim and the others dont. Do i tighten the looser ones a little first and then do the method you showed in the video or how should i start.
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 11 ай бұрын
Email Jay. Contact info in About tab. Or link in bio on Instagram.
@c-note4146
@c-note4146 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know what in-lb?
@KNRiding
@KNRiding Жыл бұрын
"Before I met you I didn't do it" LOL
@balmori.hangarage
@balmori.hangarage 7 ай бұрын
Yes dude, but do that on a dirt bike seems easy! it´s driving me crazy when I do this on my HD start fighting betewen torque-truing-hubbing! so when its trued and you start to torque, even on small increments everything goes to hell and I have to start over!
@BigDaveTALKS
@BigDaveTALKS 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, great info. My wrench is adjustable in torque so question: What is a good torque setting? Currently I just use it as a typical wrench to check tightness. If the torque is particular to bikes, i have a 2019 WR450F and 2014 CRF 450R
@JoaoSilva-gs5jb
@JoaoSilva-gs5jb 2 жыл бұрын
check manuals torque spec
@BigDaveTALKS
@BigDaveTALKS 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoaoSilva-gs5jb I don’t have one and he didn’t mention there being a torque spec. I have never heard of a torque setting. Just make sure the rim is true and spokes are tight. Never had any issues so I guess i will just keep doing what i have been doing
@tactikoolcloud8788
@tactikoolcloud8788 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigDaveTALKS I’ve heard a good spec is around 40 inch pounds. For my 19 CRF250RX manual says around 20” lbs but some say going a little higher is better because you don’t have to adjust as often but not so tight you over stress the spokes. 60” lbs is on the over tight side of specs.
@richm4402
@richm4402 8 ай бұрын
@@BigDaveTALKSabsolutely there’s a torque spec
@paintballforlife17
@paintballforlife17 Жыл бұрын
Why do u have to do it in that sequence?
@usmc03
@usmc03 Жыл бұрын
Why put the valve stem nut all the way up to the cap? I thought it was supposed to be tightened down to the rim?
@northjerseyarborcarellc7779
@northjerseyarborcarellc7779 9 ай бұрын
So the valve stem can move a bit and not get torn off
@eriknash8783
@eriknash8783 Жыл бұрын
I bought a used FE501 with only a couple hours on it. I rode it a few times and then bought a Tusk spoke torque wrench and went through this process and no matter how many cycles I go through I keep finding loose spokes. Some of the nipples look like they are buried on the spoke. Rear wheel has quite a bit of run out. Tried tightening spokes to pull it back into close to true, but it seems like there are no threads left to tighten on some of these spokes. Am I SOL on my brand new wheels and they need a rebuild? Very frustrating because I don't want to end up with broken spokes on a ride...
@jacksisco5820
@jacksisco5820 Жыл бұрын
I’m in the exact same predicament
@dnlmachine4287
@dnlmachine4287 10 ай бұрын
Some of your spokes may be too long. Mark each spoke with a paint pen etc about 1 inch above the end of the threads. Remove one of the normal spokes and one of the ones that is bottomed out or wont tighten to spec. Compare the lengths of the overall spoke and threaded portion. If you do have unequal overall lengths, you may need to remove all the bad spokes and take them to a wheel shop to have them roll some more threads up the spoke and cut the spokes to correct length. Cutting more threads with a Die will usually NOT work, hence the wheel shop suggestion. OR - buy shorter spokes. Check the spoke nipples to be sure they are seated, threads clean so they dont twist the spoke or spin on a spot of damaged threads while adjusting. Stay gold.
@gabrielkopp2036
@gabrielkopp2036 Жыл бұрын
How do you find the torque spec for different bikes/wheels
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Email Jay - contact info in About tab
@colefelchak7853
@colefelchak7853 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know what inch lb to torque spokes to?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 2 жыл бұрын
Email Jay directly with any questions. Contact info in About tab.
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 2 жыл бұрын
Think it's a good idea to back them off and apply some never seize every couple of years?
@78raarons
@78raarons 2 жыл бұрын
Have you lanced a wheel before? Holy mother of God...
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 2 жыл бұрын
@@78raarons One nipple at a time and re torque, not all at once obviously...
@331moto
@331moto 2 жыл бұрын
I put antiseize on my rear, one at a time last winter when doing a tire change. It definitely took awhile and I had antiseize everywhere. I had some nipples than were starting to seize, so I'm glad I did it.
@kevinmcdonald1917
@kevinmcdonald1917 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the tool from?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 2 жыл бұрын
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/fasst-spoke-torque-wrench-p?ref=1050
@Johngottisentme
@Johngottisentme Жыл бұрын
Light a new ssr150 No mechanic wants to work on it. Have to resort to fixing this thing myself
@MrNolanmoser9109
@MrNolanmoser9109 Жыл бұрын
Dirt bike wizard
@sirgriffinman
@sirgriffinman 2 жыл бұрын
after every ride you fully detail every aspect of you bike AND then you also do maintenance on EVERY component on your bike. Do you ever sleep, eat, or do anything other than work on your dirtbikes?
@acoustictreatmentservices9926
@acoustictreatmentservices9926 2 жыл бұрын
LOL I was looking at my new YZ250F manual and It specifies to check every little thing after break in. Took me hours.
@gophop
@gophop 2 жыл бұрын
That's why some guys have 4yo bikes with 300hrs, and they're tight and smooth like off the dealer floor. While others have clappers 6mo after buying a new one.
@331moto
@331moto 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the nut on the valve stem go against the rim??
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 2 жыл бұрын
No - never. Email me for best Q&A. Contact info in About tab.
@pepperjackshack2439
@pepperjackshack2439 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can have 2 nuts on valve stem. In this way you leave some space between the bottom nut and the rim so you don’t push the valve stem inside the rim when pumping up the tire. But should never be tighten to the rim after inflation to prevent inner tube movement and premature valve stem failure
@ozziejim8472
@ozziejim8472 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not that hard doing spokes by sound if your hearing is normal.
@CmdrTigerKing
@CmdrTigerKing Жыл бұрын
= spoke tension doesnt = a true wheel.
@viciouse1
@viciouse1 2 жыл бұрын
How about a link for the tool
@dneitzel772
@dneitzel772 2 жыл бұрын
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/fasst-spoke-torque-wrench-kit-p
@dneitzel772
@dneitzel772 2 жыл бұрын
How about a discount code too, right?!
@onenessseeker5683
@onenessseeker5683 4 ай бұрын
Tightening them all to the same torque seems off to me.
@cd1365
@cd1365 10 ай бұрын
That is not how to torque nipples, nuts. etc. You're checking the torque by listening to the click, but that doesn't tell how tight the nipples are. It's just telling you they're at or over the value you want. From the several I've seen you check, none of the nipples moved. So if, for example, you set the wrench to 48 in-lbs, you only know that the ones you checked that didn't turn are 48 in-lbs or more. One might be 48, another 60, another 56, another 49 etc. They will all make the wrench click. The correct way to tighten fasteners to a specific torque is to loosen them to below the desired value and turn them until the wrench clicks. They have to turn before the wrench clicks. If you're really concerned about hitting a specific torque, like 48 in-lbs, the best way would be to torque them all to say, 16, then 32 then 48. If you only tighten them to 48, as you move around the wheel, tightening nipples that are opposite of ones you already tightened will increase their torque because you're pulling up on them.
@my-max-media7621
@my-max-media7621 7 ай бұрын
Right. It's one thing to torque when assembling new and lubed, but no one has mentioned the wet/dry and nipple to rim friction. I recommend the "ting-tong" old school sound method. It takes out all those variables and you KNOW the banjo is in tune. Like you said, if the torque wrench clicks without movement then it's tight as but most likely TIGHTER. At the nipple to spoke BUT my point is not necessarily the spoke being tight.
@georgeriley8024
@georgeriley8024 4 ай бұрын
I did this exact sequence. With my excel torque wrench. My front wheel is now horribly out of true
@cd1365
@cd1365 4 ай бұрын
@@georgeriley8024 As it should be. I didn't give a sequence for tightening spokes. I said the correct way to torque anything is.... Tightening spokes to a specific value is very time consuming. Tightening a spoke will affect spokes opposite it and close to it. The rim flexes and tightening any spoke will lessen the torque on adjacent spokes and increase the torque on opposite spokes. If you're trying to achieve the same torque on all spokes, you're in for a very long afternoon. Corrosion, lubrication, contact area and other parameters will affect the torque value. I'm just saying the way shown in the video does not let you know that a particular torque has been achieved.
@Themusicbiz
@Themusicbiz 2 жыл бұрын
$300 and out of stock, for anyone wondering
@kovrcek
@kovrcek Ай бұрын
This is all very nice. But torquening all the spokes to some arbitrary value per manual doesn't do jack sh* to true the wheel . You can end up with spokes all tightened properly but the wheel be an oval and side to side mess. I haven't seen an explanation in any spoke-maintenance video on youtube. Only some forums mention that it's an art of itself to get the wheel true + tightened spokes to proper values. Maybe this works on a new wheel. But on old wheels where all the spokes are not the same anymore, there may be rust inside the threads etc. this just won't work. So I say it's complete BS to buy these spoke torque wrenches and tightening all spokes to the same value! I just true the wheel as best as I can (within spec) with cheap spoke wrench and that's it. Maybe tighten it all around a little. But if I would follow this stupid advise of same torque for all the spokes I would end up with oval wheel with death wobble lol
@zackiaryruddick701
@zackiaryruddick701 Жыл бұрын
Why do you tighten the value nut to the tip ? They come from factory tighten up to the rim ???
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Nope-- if you get a new bike that way from the factory it's a mistake at the dealer or who prepped the bike. Most OEM manuals will show this way.
@zackiaryruddick701
@zackiaryruddick701 Жыл бұрын
@@dirtbiketv1 ok thanks for replying so quickly, I just got a new bike and they are both tighten tight to the rim , I will check the manual
@zackiaryruddick701
@zackiaryruddick701 Жыл бұрын
@@dirtbiketv1 I just checked the manual and it's says to tighten it to the rim , saying it stops the rim from slipping wich is what I assumed it was for , why do you tighten it to the plastic tip I don't see what that is doing ?
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
@@zackiaryruddick701 OK - email further questions-- it allows the tube to be able to slip without tearing the stem off-- Thanks!
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