I have been thinking this for a while, Shimano make reducers but only supply one so you still have to double spool your reels

Mine does

They do MOST reels don't.

Yep, I do that one as well 😆

I think they were in the Junior / Intermediate England teams around the same time.

Count the turns of the handle when you’re doing the backing and you’ll be able to get the next one bang on if you’re using the same backing 👍🏻

You can, this was just showing how to do it if you need to use backing with the smaller spools a lot of lines come on now 👍🏻

Thanks for the reply, I will give it a go, especially as you did the close up on how to do it, I might even manage it with my sausage fingers.

That is a fly in the ointment! Also an issue is if the spare spool included with the reel is shallower or deeper than the other!

I was fishing the method feeder at nearly that exact same distance the other day, small drennan feeder with 6lb mono not even close to cracking off. What weight are you casting and is the leader also braided?

@@mugen5588 I’m using a 12ft feeder rod, mainline is braid with 8lb shield mono. 30gram feeder which could be too light but feels heavy enough when loaded with groundbait? I can do 10 casts absolutely fine and then ‘crack’ I must point out that it never snaps at the shock leader knot.

@@Andyfishing23 30g feeder and 2oz tip seems like a good combo. honestly the only thing I can think of that wouldn't cause a snap directly on the leader knot, is that the leader knot is snagging on one of the last rings, which are typically tiny, causing huge pressure on tip and line. due to how the tip compresses more than a normal rod, I bet it's also hitting it at an awkward angle. I've had 80lb sea fishing leaders ping directly back at me for that exact reason, until I moved to tapered. if you have another reel loaded with mono and can try the same cast on the same rod that's your answer, if not hopefully someone else knows. good luck!

@@mugen5588 Thanks a lot for your response. I think I will do that. I will try a different spool with just 8lb mono straight through and see how it goes. I need to double check the diameter of my braid but I think it’s quite thin and my leader knot is fine and smallest I can get it. I think you could be right with the angle of the guides too, the last eye was fairly straight compared to the others so I’ve made a slight bend in it. We’ll see how it goes but thanks again. I enjoy the distance fishing and want to get it right but it’s disheartening when you can’t put your finger on the problem.

Sounds like you're getting line frap - too many coils of line coming off the reel too fast - which is a problem with dry braid. This results in a lack of distance, wind knots (a weak point), and difficulty with the line going through the narrower tip guides. Wet braid is softer and reduces these problems. Find yourself a mini atomiser and keep spraying that spool. This is a great habit to get into, and braid that is too wet just doesn't exist.

Some reels will come with shallower spools, obviously a lot won't so it's worth knowing how to do :)

Just guesstimate the amount of backing, obviously the capacity of the spool will give you an indication but it’s a bit of trial and error to get it perfect.

To get it exactly loaded rather than guessing and messing it up 👍🏻

@@winningwaysbasics oh awesome, never thought of it that way. Thanks 👍🏼

Count the turns of the handle when you’re doing the backing and you’ll be able to get the next one bang on if you’re using the same backing 👍🏻

But there would be no spare spool to do the same as first one?

When you’re doing the backing on the first, count your reel turns. Then you know and can go straight on with the backing on the second spool rather than reversing it.

Any issues with line twist when you're spooling the line from the bucket ???

@@winningwaysbasics Works brilliant and so accurately but what if you want to fish with a different diameter mono or even use braid on the spare spool (which most people would do)?