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I typically soak the slab in diesel fuel and light it on fire....once I feel like the slab is melted down to the actual card, I use a fire extinguisher to put it out. Then I pull the card out and use turtle wax to clean it with a soft brillo pad. Once cleaned, I submit the card to HGA and typically receive a Gem Mint grade. But that is just me.

What's interesting here is that Geoff was able to contact PSA about why his card was graded a certain way (15:33 mark), but us normal folks can't get an explanation of grades from PSA at all. PSA says they don't have that information, but clearly they do.

All the grading companies say their grading is all subjective, the problem is these are mostly new hires with no experience

Use a thinner flathead, AND ALWAYS crack with GLOVES EYEWEAR and put the slab INSIDE a ziplock bag when cracking!

I think PSA needs to create a new grading category outside of “Trimmed”. If a card is for sure trimmed then label it as a trimmed card. If they think it was mis cut or under sized from panini/Topps/UD/Leaf or whoever but not trimmed then it should be labeled as such and just just labeled as trimmed. Trimmed comes with a stigma of the card being altered which I think pushes buyers away for sure. A must cut or undersized label would not be a harsh in my opinion.

Awesome video. I'm sure we all appreciate not having to wait months to see the results

The fact you can do that tells you how fucked card grading is. It's damn near a scan or criminal.

“What it means” is that PSA can’t tell with 100% certainty if a card is trimmed or not. That’s a problem. They got fooled on some 2021 nfl contenders autos and it went public and now they’re just throwing out that cards are “trimmed” it’s bs. We should expect more from the “top” company that we pay the most for fees and wait the longest for turnaround times.

Always think it's funny when an autograph gets graded. "You didn't sign your name well enough so we're giving you a 9."

Incompetence is running sky high right now with PSA graders so anything is possible -- which is what everyone who's paying attention has seen lately.

Glad you got back the 9.5 on the Tiger Woods, but for some reason the once "10" auto is now a "9", and the surface grade is now a half point lower. That, along with the Soto coming back at a 9... just shows how grading process can be subjective. It kind of makes you wonder how accurate the multi-stage grading process really is, and if in some cases you just have to get lucky... and have the right graders on the right days.

This is why grading is a sham.

I enjoy seeing the results of crossover videos. The one thing I can’t understand is why people are still using screwdrivers and jamming them into the case. A painters 5-in-1 tool works much better. The wide blade can be used as leverage to easily pop the case open without risk of jamming the tool into the area of the card.

If you crack, you should be able to send the old graded label in so it can be taken out of the pop count. Cracking its over saturating the pop counts.

This was a great video. It had all the ingredients in it to make it watchable - drama, intrigue, plot twist and a happy ending.

Doesn’t this really mess with the pop count? For a sports card investor I feel like this drops the value of the cards because now technically you have 2 9.5 bgs woods cards

Best Sports cards video I have seen in a while

So moral of the story is to not crack and resubmit 🤣

Wild I just thought about if you uploaded. And new video came up lol. Thanks for the content bro!

The size thing with PSA is ridiculous now. I had a similar situation, but not a big card. They have far too many new graders with no experience. Just sad and why I have pulled back from PSA.

Instead of a flat head screw driver, I use a decent size pocket knife(its thinner then the flat head). Also, I am too scared to crack BGS 9.5s because you never know with PSA what grade they will give a card.

The one that comes to mind is a Dak field level sliver RC. It was graded BGS 9. I offered the guy $450 for it but he declined in favor of eBay auction. I won the auction for $240. I cracked the slab and crossed it to a PSA 10.

I don't know why you are so happy with the tiger woods back with a 9.5 (with a 9 sub) and auto 9 when you had a true 9.5 with auto 10. And the auto 9 label is heavily damaged lol.

Wait a minute wasn’t tiger a BGS 9.5 10 auto. You got back a BGS 9.5 9 auto

It's like breaking up with your girlfriend thinking you can upgrade and then you realized you missed your old girlfriend 😂

BGS is more consistent with their grading in my opinion, cuz they show you the sub-grades

Nice to see the Tiger come back a 9.5 but they dinged the auto grade one notch down to 9 from 10.

Fantastic show! All guts Paisano; God Bless! Keep up the great work, truly enjoy watching your videos. Of course, you have cost me a fortune bringing me back into the arena. LOL

For the future I do recommend using the snips on both of the top corners. It makes it much easier to separate🙏🏼

so does cracking a slab and resubmitting the card falsely increase the pop count of submitted card?

I'm always waiting for your videos to come out

I just had a card I got from a Prizm football break come back from PSA as trimmed. I put the card up against another prizm card and the card is the slightest bit shorter from top to bottom. I doubt the breaker trimmed it and I certainly didn’t trim it so I guess it’s just a factory defect

I like how they converted some PSA cards to BGS and BGS to PSA

Cracked open Two BGS 8.5 Jordan Fleer RCs. Both with 9.5 centering. Submitted both to PSA at last year’s National in Chicago hoping for PSA 9s… Well… One came back altered, other came back trimmed…. I was devastated… 😭 So, this year’s National, I have resubmitted both to Beckett hoping for 8.5s…. They both received 8.5 but I lost .5 pts this time… 😓 It is a gamble for sure, so at the end, I simply wasted 1700 in grading fees… 😭

Hey Geoff, if I submit to grade with you all, what are the policies on if the card was to get lost or stolen ?

Poor Doug 🤣 well done sir!

Nice to see what happens with some big cards trying to get crossed. Crossed a Trae Young Blue velocity rookie BGS 9 to a PSA10. Centering had an 8.5 and all other subs were 9.5. Thanks for sharing!

What happens to the pop counts when a card is crossed over? There's no way to track what it was previously graded as, so the numbers in pop don't reflect any changes over time for reslabbing?

Can you do this with the same card and get it graded at PSA, BGS, CSG, and SGC? Would be interesting to see how different the same card gets graded by different companies.

The guys facial reactions were funny as fuck at the end lol 😆

Was waiting for the piece of slab to hit Jeff in the eye. You need safety glasses for that stuff.

That screwdriver is ludicrous 😆

Great vid! Just cracked a curry topps rookie psa 7 and sent it to bgs hoping to get an 8.5

Psa all the way!!!!

Great episode guys, loved seeing the the whole process and getting the results too 👏🏻

Nothing wrong with this practice if you would put up with the gamble, effort and time, My take is if you have a Bgs 9.5 keep it as it is. More power Fellow collectors and SCI

I had a 86 fleer that was previously slabbed as a 8.5. I crossed it to PSA and they said trimmed. I sent the trimmed holder to sgc and they actually called me and said do you just want it in a holder? They were confused. I told them I had a former PSA grader look the cars up and down and he said, “I don’t see ANYTHING! NOTHING! That would deem this trimmed. He said all cards have little things that could be determined as messed with, but he said the fibers were perfectly consistent and he straight told me that they were wrong. I told Sgc, I just want you to grade it as you see fit. He didn’t want to hear any story he just didn’t understand my intentions. He indicated it was likely just going to come back trimmed. He called me back and said, they had to grade it. They looked at it and they couldn’t find any evidence of trimming at all. Well, PSA charged me $1k and then I paid expedited shipping both ways with insurance, about $350. Then I had to pay SGC a couple hundred I think. So PSA and their ridiculous propensity to just slap altered or authentic on stuff for CYA reasons, cost me around $1600 in total. The company is terrible and when this ridiculous cost difference fades away, they will have to be a much more decent company. And their grading consistency is terrible. BGS is actually extremely consistent. SGC is consistent but so freaking hard. I’m not sending cards there anymore either. I sent about 50 80s and 90s Jordan’s that just got butchered. Tons of 8.5s and the ones I didn’t care about got 9s. Like 4 tens out of the whole order. With sgc, you have to get a 10 to make money off their grading on 80s and up. A 9.5 can sometimes make something, but rarely, so I’ve found them pointless. PSA is ok for lower value cards that are perfect, but you may get a 7 or a 10. My cousin sent the same card in 3x PSA 8, PSA 7, PSA 9. How does that happen. The card was beautiful, perfect corners, surface amazing, slight top to bottom off. They are just not consistent for the very obvious reason they are hiring way more people off the street for $20/hr. Yes, they train them and have more eyes on it but it was determined that PSA spends less than 30 seconds per person per card. That is astounding!

And a little bit of advice you guys really need to have psychic glasses on when you do this I learned that the hard way lol

I'm not surprised about the Soto b/c it's not serial numbered. Essentially, they're looking at the card for the first time. The Tiger card is serial numbered, thus, all they had to do at BGS was look through their archives. That being said, why the different auto grade? Maybe they were punishing you for trying to outsmart them! Fun video to watch! Keep em' coming.

Please wear safety glasses 🤓 when cracking slabs. Awesome video thanks for sharing

Great video I loved it!

Early on the grades show some good consitency between the two companies when it comes to the grades. That Soto just shows how PSA is 10 or bust a lot of times. Subgrades do matter.

Very cool idea for a video. Love this type of stuff

i cracked a bgs 9 curry topps rc . i was shaking so much. came back psa 8

The Tiger was originally a 9.5/10 and then the 2nd time around it was a 9.5/9.

Where’s your safety glasses?!?! 😂😂

More often than not my preferred method seems to end up being a tactic where I smash the slab against my head until it’s free

Hey Geoff not being sponsored or anything but next time you do this I would reccomend using kurts card care it completely helps the grades Ive used it and ive cracked slabs that were 8's then used the card care and it came back 10

Shouldn’t the value of all cards in a population decrease when the population increases?

Great video guys! Thanks for not making us wait to see the grades!

would be interesting to see how PSA and BGS responds to this enlightening video. don't think they will be too happy with it. way to shake things up and maybe improve their inconsistencies! BGS seems to be all over the place with that Soto.

It's crazy that PSA was too nervous/scared to authenticate that Tiger Woods card, but now they're going start authenticating Michael Jordan Star "rookie" cards??? 🤔 #TheHobbyist

I thought I've heard that PSA has two different graders look at each card without the other knowing what the other grader thought? So does that mean two different people independently thought that Woods card should be graded just Authentic? That's loco. Or are they just saying they have two graders looking at these cards when it's really just one.

That video was so much fun! That's for the great content!

Doing this, does it mess up the pop report?

Why Would PSA Allow A Card That's Already Been Graded By Them and Serial #'d (aka Tua Green Select /5) To Be ReSubmitted For Grading? Considering There's Only 5 Made, They Would See Documentation In Their System That The Particular Card Has Already Been Graded. I Didn't Know That Could Be Done.

I had a KD Topps Chrome refractor rc. It was a PSA 7, regraded and its now a PSA 9

have crossed a bunch... almost always works best when you crack em.... just the nature of the beast

Safety glasses. LOL!

This might be a silly question will stuff like this affect the pop count on greaded cards? Great video though keep up the good work i like your videos

I think you need to crossover the ovechkin to psa see if you can get a 10 with those subgrades being 9.5's minus the centering

So Wait a minute you had a true gem 9.5 and decided to trim the card lol lol

The Woods is from Upper Deck and from my experience SpA and Exquisite Cards often are miscut. PSA should know that.

I use Burt’s card care wax to clean my cards. It takes the grime and dirt off. You can see the dirt removal on the microfiber cloth. Brings a good shine back to the card.

When you have friends in high places 😂

Instead of just cutting one corner it’s a lot easier to lift if you cut both the top corners.

Seems like Beckett grading is more consistent. What’s the best way to grade an auto? Who and what services?

I broke about 4 cases and ruined one of the cards in the process. It's risky breaking cases at least for me.

Wow, that Soto was a True Gem Plus Plus, and it came back a BGS 9? I hope PSA didnt damage the card.

Bought a KSA from pwcc Bobby Orr Rc sent to PSA came back trimming, sent to BGS same things, sent to SCG same thing. I will send back to KSA and see what happens

Thank you Beckett? Thank you PSA? For what, proving how subjective grades are?

FYI, a tiny flat-head screwdriver works better IMO. I've broken out bunches of cards

Safety glass is always a plus 😅😂🤣

I’m not sure if I love graded cards more now, or hate the whole process completely. ..

I once sent an old Jordan USA card into BGS to get graded and when I received the card back the top right corner was damaged. Should have been a gem mint but instead was a 6.5 I stopped collecting after that.

Never take big chances on big name cards you lost the perfect 10 auto on the Tiger Woods & the Soto got bumped to a lower grade. 😩💸

Geoff “Card Trimmer” Wilson

So when I cracked a LT rookie I sent to sgc. It came back with a A for authentic. They didn't grade it why is that.

very nice we now have tutorials on how to manipulate the system . It is a nice example for the younger ones.. (can wait to show my kids this awesome tutorial) the past 3 years has exposed lots and lots dirty tricks and as a kid this is not a good way to teach morals and values. lets go !

Never never position (point) the screwdriver at the card you are removing as if it slips you will damage the card. Always wear safety glasses when using a pair of cutters on a slab as the plastic can hit you in the eyes.

This is your ONE OF YOUR BEST VIDEOS TO DATE!!!

My heart was beating! lol so nervous for you all

Geoff, should I crack my 1986 Jose Canseco rookie graded BGS 5, and submit it to PSA and hope for a 6? Is this a solid long term play?

Wow one of the best shows I have seen so far. Lol

Funny PSA is worried about that tiger woods "trimmed" card that isn't obviously but they let go the Brady auto from a 6-8 gaining tens of thousands of dollars in value

And now I see why people just keep cracking/resending until they get the grades they want...its so darn random and objective based on the grader. How can that Soto be graded a GEM MINT + 9.5 and then down to a BGS 9? LOL

I crossed over a Topps Lebron rc BGS true gem to a PSA 10 before the boom, I wanted it in a red label slab to match the card and I think PSA slabs present the card better without the sleeve. I paid $450AUD for the true gem.

I would never pay twice to grade a really expensive card. The upcharge is ridiculous

With the potential trimmed card… TAG grading solves that entire issue. If I was buying a high end card, I would insist that it be graded by TAG. Just such a superior process and report.