WWII German Luftwaffe Fighter Markings - What Do They Mean?

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A brief explanation of the logic behind Luftwaffe fighter markings - this video should help you quickly identify where an individual aircraft sits within the organization of the German fighter arm from WWII.
This video is perfect for scale modelers who want to replicate a particular aircraft or World War Two aviation enthusiasts who wish learn a little more about why Luftwaffe aircraft looked the way they did!
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00:00 Intro
00:27 Organizational Overview
02:03 Command Aircraft
03:30 Group Markings
04:55 Practice!
05:45 Squad Markings
07:26 More Practice!
08:36 Jagdgeschwader Emblems
10:17 Color Bands
11:01 Even More Practice!

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@theogantenbein7870
@theogantenbein7870 Жыл бұрын
6:55 This is based on the „Preußische Farbfolge“ (Prussian Color Sequence) for the marking of units. It goes: I. = white, II. = red, III. = yellow, IV. = blue, V. = green, VI. = black (sometimes brown). It was introduced in 1818 and remained in effect until 1918, but was used casually after 1918 in the German army. Even during my time in the Bundeswehr equipment of the platoons was marked with colors according to the Prussian Color Sequence. Maybe that was, because white, red and yellow paint was readily available because these colors were coincidentally used for other tasks within the Bundeswehr.
@JuergenGDB
@JuergenGDB Жыл бұрын
Well, I am more of the Panzer guru but this makes sense with my readings, The most recent reading was by Heinrich Ehrler,
@davidrottschafer7974
@davidrottschafer7974 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta commend you on the perfect pronunciation of Jagdgeschwader. Was a pleasant surprise to hear from an English speaker and definitely the best I have ever heard! Keep up the great work
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you! Trying my best... all the audiobooks are definitely helpful! 😅 And thank you for watching 👍
@thenadonation2664
@thenadonation2664 Жыл бұрын
What? People don't know how to say this? Damn I'm surprised.
@patrickcardon1643
@patrickcardon1643 Жыл бұрын
Yup, it's refreshing not hearing luftwaffle and the like 😂
@Edelweiss-uv5xi
@Edelweiss-uv5xi Жыл бұрын
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@alphakky
@alphakky Жыл бұрын
Not a fan when the secondary national emblem is left off of the tail.
@HammerheadModelMaking
@HammerheadModelMaking 2 жыл бұрын
This is helpful for someone who hasn’t modeled much German aircraft, like me!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear - thank you! Happy Building 👍
@Hafer_
@Hafer_ 2 жыл бұрын
The way you present info is pretty clear and really easy to follow
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed 👍
@Leo_Pard_A4
@Leo_Pard_A4 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but he forgot to tell us wat the black circle on the tail fin stands for.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
I've been fixing these aircraft models since I was 12. It has always irked me as to what all those numbers and chevrons mean. I think this is the first and only video delving into a difficult and obscure (but interesting to modellers) subject such as this.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it - I felt the same way! Thank you 👍
@briankorbelik2873
@briankorbelik2873 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. When I was growing up in the late 1960's and into 1970's, I used to build models like crazy and laterI would buy books for which types of models to build. And I read every book that was released on the Luftwaffe and it's markings However I am now 66 and I'm going to begin building models again. Just as an aside, I bought a BF-109 F2. I wanted the Trop model, but it was out of my price range. I figure that somewhere out there, there is an aftermarket site out there that has the parts I need. Please keep putting out these videos. And since I am now a geezer, I have forgotten a good part of what I once knew. Horrido!
@Jotgut
@Jotgut Жыл бұрын
Bit late but im interested to hear about quality of the models now conpared to the 70s. Did it improve or change in any way? Or they look and feel the same as they did 50 years ago? Cheers
@wumhenry123
@wumhenry123 2 жыл бұрын
Eastern und Scandinavian theatre had yellow fuselage bands. Not white ones. Chevrons etc. were later replaced by green numbers (Stabsstaffel). There were also brown used for third Staffeln und blue for fourth Staffeln.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! May I ask what reference material you found this in? I'd love to read more 👍
@TheJnewboy
@TheJnewboy Жыл бұрын
So if I point out someone is wrong I get deleted? Classic. Sad that someone’s ego is that fragile, didn’t know, sorry. Jg300 used red bands, it’s a fact. Nothing personal.
@wumhenry123
@wumhenry123 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheJnewboy The Defence of the Reich bands were different from the theater of war bands. They were broader. They had a width of 900 mm. It had consisted of on or two colors. If two colors the stripes could be Color1/Color2 (45/45cm) or Color1/Color2/Color1 (30/30/30 cm). Exeption were the former KG (Kampfgeschwader= bomber units) that were transformed into JG (Jagdgeschwader = Fighter Groups). These had 2 Colors in chequered layout. for example, your mentioned green band was for JG 27. The red band was not for bomber duty but stands for JG 1.
@wumhenry123
@wumhenry123 Жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews sorry for answering late: A good resource for german markings are the books from Merrick "Luftwaffe camouflage and markins" or the book from Ullmann: "Luftwaffe Colours"
@wumhenry123
@wumhenry123 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJnewboy All over Germany? Which units? Have you any evidence? JG 300 was blue/white/blue
@jamescherney5874
@jamescherney5874 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! I had a vague idea of what these markings meant but this explained alot. The Germans always had super organization and symbology for all of their military units. WW2 German Aircraft have always been my favorite to model.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I'm glad to hear it was helpful!
@paulc6471
@paulc6471 Жыл бұрын
Well researched and clearly explained. Those Germans sure had a complicated way of marking the aircraft.
@ada42klm
@ada42klm 2 жыл бұрын
Again my friend, Outstanding video!!!! It's good to know what these insignias all mean on these aircraft. You don't happen to have any information like this for armor vehicles? I'm just asking. You the man brother. Thank you so much for sharing. Kudos to you.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed - and that's a great idea, I'd love to make one of these for armor. Good call! 👍
@tylerwright6380
@tylerwright6380 Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. It gives information that I have never seen anywhere else. Kudos to you for your selection of topic and the research you did to present it.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much - I really appreciate it! 👍
@Workerbee-zy5nx
@Workerbee-zy5nx Жыл бұрын
German markings are extremely organized and show strandings and class. Great job, I always wondered about those markings.😎
@heydonray
@heydonray Жыл бұрын
👍👍OUTSTANDING! Rarely have I come across a vid on ANY topic which is so clear and concise. 👍👍👍
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I really appreciate it!!
@Pierre19prt
@Pierre19prt 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your description and explanations ! Very interesting !
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining these WW 2 German aircraft markings. I've built plenty of models of these planes before and never knew what all those markings were for. It makes me wonder who ever came up with the idea behind them.
@Curious-c1c
@Curious-c1c 6 ай бұрын
Being a scale model builder, your info is priceless, and was presented well.
@leonardmaus583
@leonardmaus583 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir! Thank you for this very informative video. I have been wondering a long time how to read these markings. Thank you for solving this "mystery"!
@nathansimms8978
@nathansimms8978 8 ай бұрын
Great video and super informative! Reading a book now about Luftwaffe operations in North Africa and this has gone a long way towards increasing my understanding!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 8 ай бұрын
Ah great! I'm glad to hear it - enjoy your read!
@furia5124
@furia5124 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for posting this video. Learned quite a bit about the markings. So glad I found and subscribed to your channel!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! Welcome aboard 👍
@Dan-tv1sm
@Dan-tv1sm 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and I learned something. Now, I think(?) I can interpret the various insignia as shown in the book "Luftwaffe Fighter Aircraft In Profile" by Sundin and Bergstrom (1997) which gives a brief history of the pilots and color illustratrations of the fighter aircraft they flew. Great video and thanks for the historical information.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed - there are always some exceptions, but this should be helpful in identifying most fighter symbols! 👍
@lexi_9995
@lexi_9995 Жыл бұрын
I knew nothing about this subject until now. Very interesting and informative, subscribed, regards Lexi
@littlejohnny4470
@littlejohnny4470 7 ай бұрын
Wow! That was cool! I always wondered what all the marking are on all the WW2 aircraft and this is the FIRST video that provided instruction! I hope you do more of these. Thank you!!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I have a new episode that tanks about 8th Air Force markings if you'd like to check that out as well 👍
@littlejohnny4470
@littlejohnny4470 7 ай бұрын
@@SpruesNBrewsYes! I found that after I subscribed! Thanks Again!
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 Жыл бұрын
A whole series or videos on this topic would be epic.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Could be fun!
@BAGHEAD1995
@BAGHEAD1995 2 жыл бұрын
Being a BF109 / luft nerd, I’m extremely pleased to see this video. Great stuff Hank!.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to hear it - thank you!! I appreciate it 👍
@alrichardson8759
@alrichardson8759 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video. Fascinating stuff.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed - thanks for watching! 👍
@mollygrubber
@mollygrubber 2 жыл бұрын
That was amazing, thanks for this. Never put much thought into this before.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching 👍
@tremolo_painter
@tremolo_painter Жыл бұрын
I am saving this - that is an excellent description of markings!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to hear it!
@Fifty8day
@Fifty8day Жыл бұрын
I think it would be harder to remember the symbols than flying the plane. Thank you for explaining 😅
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Haha might be close!
@charlesflint9048
@charlesflint9048 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, as I’ve wondered for years what the fuselage markings on Luftwaffe meant.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Great! Glad to help!!
@LuigiLong
@LuigiLong Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I had no idea that there was so much organization behind the symbols, it's truly amazing!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Right? Pretty crazy!
@lesscotford1419
@lesscotford1419 Жыл бұрын
Lest we forget. It's the Germans, everythings organised.
@taurus2016
@taurus2016 Жыл бұрын
That's just the default scheme now. It only got complicated when some groups were upgraded to four squadrons or the groups were spread over several theaters of war. Or generally groups and squadrons were re-formed. Some pilots kept their old markings when transferred or promoted. Pilots from the squadron staff also flew with anonymous machines, since the allies also knew the marking scheme and therefore did not want to give a special target or officially banned from flying. The bands on the fuselage of the machines were recognition marks for all machines and countries that flew on the German side. So if you see an Italian Macchi MC.202 with yellow stripes, you can find out the time and place of the recording relatively accurately. As fewer and fewer countries fought on the German side from mid-1944, these bands lost their original meaning and they were then used as squadron identification.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Not quite. Yes, they were identifiers for axis fighters, but still theatre based. Italian fighters in Russia showed yellow vands, while the ones flying at home, i.e. the Mediterranean theatre, wore white bands. Most nations in league with tge Germans wore yellow fuselage bands only because they were operating on the eastern front. Only the Italian aircraft taking part in the Battle of Britain wore yellow cowlings, but at that point of thime, there was no eastern nor Mediterranean theatres.
@exidorcyanuro
@exidorcyanuro Жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad to hear it - thanks for watching!
@johnnyreno7200
@johnnyreno7200 Жыл бұрын
Awesome man. Great information!!
@crazylocha2515
@crazylocha2515 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was super informative! 👍
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad! Thanks for watching! 👍
@usernamesreprise4068
@usernamesreprise4068 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid, it explains so much of what confused me over the years regarding Luftwaffe staffel and unit markings, I just hope it doesnt cause early onset of OCDC lol.
@joeavent5554
@joeavent5554 2 жыл бұрын
It is challenging to denote white or yellow markings in black and white photos unless accompanied with captions. Google Luftwaffe WW2 markings. War birdsrescourcegroup has an extensive page covering unit markings through the course of the war.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
For sure! Definitely one of the tougher parts. Thanks for the recommendation - I'll check it out 👍
@joeavent5554
@joeavent5554 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews Your quite welcome. Your video was of top quality.
@mimikurtz4061
@mimikurtz4061 Жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews You think it's tricky to differentiate between white and yellow markings in black and white photos? Wait until you meet red, brown and blue. Then there's orange which may have been rarely used or not at all.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes yes, but the Germans mostly used orthochromatiic film. On those photographic films, yellow and red show up much darker and thus can readily be differentiated from white.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
​​@@mimikurtz4061here's no orange colour specified in the RLM system, so probably not.
@joseluiscastanorestrepo
@joseluiscastanorestrepo 6 ай бұрын
A very instructive video, now I can correctly identify the German planes. ​
@juliusdream2683
@juliusdream2683 Жыл бұрын
That was very informative.
@clairenollet2389
@clairenollet2389 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the planes had signifiers indicating the rank of the person flying the plane. It seems like that would needlessly expose the higher ranked officer to enemy fire.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Yeah I hear ya - I think in practice, though, Allied fighters wouldn't really have time to pick & choose targets based on what markings they could pick out on enemy fighters... it would all be too fast!
@clairenollet2389
@clairenollet2389 Жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews I'm sure it wasn't that big an advantage to the Allies, but I know that in ground combat, that rank bars draw fire.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
It was also easier to form up on the leader, though, so I guess the benefit outweighed the risk
@Corsario-ud1du
@Corsario-ud1du 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Clear explanation of a complicated subject. Keep posting more videos like this one.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed - appreciate it! 👍
@darrinsmith1588
@darrinsmith1588 5 ай бұрын
Super informative
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 Жыл бұрын
Your German is on point. We have a somewhat famous ace pilot in our family. It's very interesting.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I try my best! And if I can deduce anything from your username, I'm sure you have some incredible stories... wow!
@jimanast3593
@jimanast3593 2 ай бұрын
Incredible! Amazed! U must be proud. Erick Hartmann had (2) daughters, as I know. Did he had a son? (If he didn't have one, then U must be some kind of a nephew to him. I myself am a Greek Revolution hero's nephew, descenting from a cousin of his, many generations ago.)
@chilarai1
@chilarai1 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kevinhuber8723
@kevinhuber8723 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel (and subscribed) huge WW2 fighter plane fan and model builder (or collector, I'm not sure!) This is a very, very interesting topic and quite confusing!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! And welcome aboard 👍
@MGB-learning
@MGB-learning 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😁
@GeOl011919954
@GeOl011919954 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff thank you for sharing 👍
@rustyshackleford2841
@rustyshackleford2841 Жыл бұрын
What sources did you used for your research? Been looking for a book about the Luftwaffe structure, tactics etc. Great job!!
@majorkursk780
@majorkursk780 Жыл бұрын
Very informative..very good presentation.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@jabonorte
@jabonorte Жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks! Won't remember any of it, so thank God I can save it for later!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Haha ain't that the truth!
@kengoold7157
@kengoold7157 Жыл бұрын
that's great mate. well done
@johngimmellie7576
@johngimmellie7576 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding
@amandastevenson4948
@amandastevenson4948 Жыл бұрын
I need a model when I was a kid of a 109 and I option for those decals brings back memories
@dannyc8617
@dannyc8617 Жыл бұрын
Man, I had no idea what any of that meant, would probably still fail a post video quiz. Nice job.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Haha it's tricky! No worries
@sniper59jl
@sniper59jl 10 ай бұрын
Excellent , always wonder the meaning of this symbols, ...more than 40 years in scale modeling aircraft , ( near 50 german aircrafts ) and never find this superb detailed information, great job ...¡¡¡¡¡
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
An easy toi read primer on Luftwaffe markings of WW2 and the years leading up to it can be found in Volumes 16 to 18 of Wings of Fame. These markings were the 3rd or 4th system for aircraft markings adopted by fighter units. Initially, just after WW1 they used Luftfahrzeugrolle B which consisted of the letter D followed by a serial number with various dividers between the D and the numbers including dots and hyphens. This system lasted to around 1934 when an all letter code was introduced, similar to what we see on today's civil aircraft, with the first letter identifying the all up weight of the aircraft. 2 years later we have an alphanumeric system with the first 2 characters identifying the unit, for example JG132 (by WW2 this had become JG2) having 21 as the first 2 characters. The unit designation indicates a lot as well. JG indicates a fighter unit, 1 indicates that it is the most senior unit of its type in the region it is based in, 3 superfluously indicates it is a fighter unit and the 2 indicates it is from Luftreiskommando II (ie the Berlin-Bradenburg region). No sooner had this system come into place for all military aircraft that it was changed for the fighter squadrons to the markings familiar in WW2 but with colourful noses, JG132, for example had red noses. But hardly had the paint dried was the Bf.109 introduced into service and the painted noses became history and the colours being transferred to the aircraft identification number in white, red, or yellow depending on which staffed the aircraft was in. These numbers were originally only half the height of the cross but later became the same height. Care must also be taken as there were many anomalies in the German system of markings. For example the is a photograph of an FW.190 of I/JG51 that has 3 vertical bars in front of the fuselage cross for which no one now knows the reason. This unit also put the theatre banding behind the fuselage cross. The German bomber markings are also complicated.
@oron61
@oron61 Жыл бұрын
I see the thumbnail, and already know the answer: the arrow symbolizes that the plane flies in that direction: it goes forwards instead of backwards.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@tessaleroux7725
@tessaleroux7725 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. SO very interesting
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MiamiMillionaire
@MiamiMillionaire Жыл бұрын
Sehr gut erklärt 👍
@birdtracs1863
@birdtracs1863 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Just Subscribed
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Welcome aboard 👍
@tieroneactual2228
@tieroneactual2228 Жыл бұрын
At the 09:30 mark where the Center picture was stated to be Garlands 109, it’s hard to make out but it looks like it may have the Mickey Mouse on the side below the canopy that he always added to what ever aircraft he was assigned too.
@tieroneactual2228
@tieroneactual2228 Жыл бұрын
Gallands 109
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Yep! It's on there - good eye 👍
@allanking9938
@allanking9938 2 жыл бұрын
Very Helpful :)
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Great! So glad to hear it - thanks for watching!
@travis_thompson
@travis_thompson 2 жыл бұрын
And if you spend waaay too long looking at this stuff you can often tell what JG later war aircraft belong to by the font they used.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Haha fair enough! Practice makes perfect 😁
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. The fonts varied wildly. For a modeller, it's a nightmare.
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels Жыл бұрын
Good breakdown
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leighjones5551
@leighjones5551 Жыл бұрын
Very informative
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad to hear it!
@brunomanso9428
@brunomanso9428 Жыл бұрын
JG 27's Berlin Bear group had an actual bear as its mascot. Adam Makos's book _A Higher Call_ was one I read.
@briangrant774
@briangrant774 2 жыл бұрын
fabulous content!!!! or USN during midway and corral seas ops. The tail code striping always puzzled me.(which is easy to do lol). I've seen two red stripes on a dauntless which i believe is a marine commander aircraft. not sure why the navy and marine's switch back and forth from white striping's to red. inner rivalries between USN and USMC maybe. both operated units from carriers in the pacific. Again thank you so much.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed! Thank you - and I'd love to get another video out like this on a similar subject... hopefully soon!
@briangrant774
@briangrant774 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews i'll be on the look out cheers!!
@Duececoupe
@Duececoupe Жыл бұрын
I tend to stick with any numbered "13", much like the Fw 190D from JV44 "Red 13", Heinz Bär and his Fw 190A, also "Red 13", then you have Günther Rall and his Bf 109G-2 "Black 13".... Helmut Tiedmann's Bf 109E-4 "Black 13" was a colourful machine....😎
@S4lym0n
@S4lym0n Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Is there a chance that you can make one about german plane/vehicle camos? That would be lit af.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I'd love to! I'll add it to the list - thank you!
@davidharrington1133
@davidharrington1133 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@khfhgg5213
@khfhgg5213 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa was a member of the 3rd SS Luftflotte Division "Gottlieb Wendehals". He said that the sign means "go there. There is enemy. Plz dont fly backwards"
@grindcorejoe6661
@grindcorejoe6661 Жыл бұрын
That was nice!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@christophervanmeier1648
@christophervanmeier1648 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very informative. Is there a publication that covers all of the unit insignia?
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I haven't found one yet, but I'll be sure to share if I do!
@user-um3bf4xm1g
@user-um3bf4xm1g Жыл бұрын
Fabulous
@elvisbjones
@elvisbjones Жыл бұрын
I’m in a kind of second or third phase of improving my modeling skills. When I first started I just slapped decals on wherever I thought they looked cool so I have a bf 109 I built when I was about 14-15 that has black double chevrons with a black horizontal bar but also has a white 12.silly me
@alanclarke8493
@alanclarke8493 Жыл бұрын
This video makes me appreciate my books even more! (They aren't censored)
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw Жыл бұрын
Thanks! .
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the senior officers were so clearly identified - wouldn't it make it easier to "shoot for the epaulets"?
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
It would, yes, but it was also easier to form up on you lrader after take off or after a dogfight, so the benefits probably outweighed the risks
@julianlineham
@julianlineham Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you think so!
@buck9739
@buck9739 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool
@Darjeeling__
@Darjeeling__ Жыл бұрын
Question: why was Hans Joachim Marseille’s 109 “Yellow 14”, even after becoming Staffelkapitan of 3./JG27? Wouldn’t it have been repainted to be “Yellow 1” (or paint over the “4”)?
@seth0023
@seth0023 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be doing similar videos for other countries of ww2?
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to! It just takes some time to research & pull it all together - but that's the plan 👍
@mattbannon4981
@mattbannon4981 10 ай бұрын
What is the ibex badge on the BF 109e -3 Messerschmitt
@36736fps
@36736fps 2 жыл бұрын
Am I correct in assuming these graphics were used mostly to make it easier to form and reform units in the air? And were these designations continued late into the war when units were being decimated in combat, making shuffling among units a constant necessity?
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Good questions! Yes - the general numbering/chevron system was designed to help with mid-air identification. And they did continue to use this system through to the end of the war, but to your point it quickly became a lot less uniform as losses grew & units shifted around. Generally speaking your veteran fliers still carried lower numbers (or chevrons for group leaders) through to the end, but you do start seeing much higher numbers (and sometimes no numbers at all) later in '44 & '45 👍
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Yoe are totally correct. And yes, the system was retained right to the end. Aircraft were not shuffled around that much, only the pilots. But it happened, as many late war aircraft with crudely overpainted numbes show. The only thing tha changed was that the chevrons were no longer used and made way for green numerals.
@Xoruam
@Xoruam Жыл бұрын
Considering that "Ordnung", or "Order", is like a national characteristic of Germany, I was surprised how messy was apparently the marking system for the wing commander. The emblems I can get, since - if I understand correctly - they weren't exactly official markings, and when you have so many people marking their affiliation, it's unavoidable that some will prioritize the wing, while others will prefer to denote their squadron, but the fact that the wing commander markings were so all over the place genuinely surprised me. Especially since it's not just variations of the same symbol, like single chevron + horizontal bar / horizontal arrow, but the combination of single/double chevron, vertical/horizontal bars, as well as some having a second bar behind the cross, while others don't, where all these seem to be a mix of markings from almost all other ranks, as well as from different organizational levels, seems very... uncharacteristic of the Germans. I would expect them to use a more unified system, like Jg command uses double chevron, Gruppe command uses single chevron, and then other symbology denotes individual ranks, and individual aircraft just use the numbering + pretty much the system you've described. Instead, the command ranks markings are an absolute mess, and I wonder if there was any reason for it.
@tx3rn0bill
@tx3rn0bill Жыл бұрын
Some Jagdgeschwader became notorious so that they had also very notorious identifying markers. JG 26, Schlageter, were so famous for their prowess, they were dubbed by the allies as the "yellow-nosed bastards" due to the yellow paint on the aircraft nose. This identifiyer was unique to JG 26.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@jamesmuller3807
@jamesmuller3807 Жыл бұрын
You are correct. Although yellow nosed craft appear in alot of war movies where they didn't belong.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
No, that's actually wrong. The Luftwaffe high command issued an order in August 1940 to ALL fighter wings to put on those identifying markings to reduce the amount of friendly fire. By no means were they only used by JG 26. Just look at any pictures of 109s from that timeframe and you'll see.
@moviematt94
@moviematt94 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Helps to decal my whole squadron of 109s. Also, got anymore of these lined up? I would kill for Japanese naval aircraft.
@zanenobbs352
@zanenobbs352 Жыл бұрын
This is great! Is there a similar scenario for aircraft with letters? Some of my late war Me-262s have a red X while another has a white J on the side.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Great question! Now I can't say with 100% certainty, but I believe that the alpha codes like this were in reference to these aircraft being used previously among either training or bombing squadrons, respectively. Luftwaffe bomber organizations used alphabetic markings rather than the symbolic markings of the fighter forces, and I believe the "x" denoted a training aircraft hope that helps!
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
The first two letters of the code, in front of the cross denoted the unit the aircraft was from, the third one was the individual aircraft "number", again in white, black, yellow or blue, and the fourth denoted the group it flew in.
@peddersoldchap
@peddersoldchap Жыл бұрын
why are the swastikdas censored? do you do the same with the copmmie star?
@salazarju1
@salazarju1 Жыл бұрын
What do you have about the Luftwaffe Bombers identification?
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
I'd like to make a video on that, too! I've gotten a few requests - stay tuned 👍
@SaviorCross
@SaviorCross Жыл бұрын
Subscribed.
@52down
@52down 2 жыл бұрын
As everything among Luftwaffe, there were so many exceptions, that this video can serve as a basic knowledge source. Nevertheless, it's a good quality video
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
For sure - there are always exceptions! I tried to distill the most basic structure for reference here 👍
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Still, therewas a logic to all the madness... 😂
@scifi_dragon
@scifi_dragon Жыл бұрын
Great video, great info, but my head is spinning. I think I'll stick to AFVs & leave the Luftwaffe to you.
@nashuf1492
@nashuf1492 Жыл бұрын
This video needs a double like button :)
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed 👍
@raseli4066
@raseli4066 2 жыл бұрын
What does a vertical bar behind the cross mean? I was going through one of my old models and noticed that my tamiya fw190a3 had markings for 8/jg2, it made me abit curious because in the video there are plenty of horizontal bars behind the cross, but not a singular vertical one, that dident have a triangle next to it. If I paid enough attention
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Good question! The vertical bar denotes III gruppe within the Jagdgeschwader. If you hop to 4:06 in the video, you'll see that III gruppe either had a squiggle or a vertical bar to denote their aircraft. So it totally makes sense that the 190A3 that you mentioned from 8/jg2 had a vertical bar, because 8th staffel would be the 2nd staffel within gruppe III. Hope that helps & thanks for watching! 👍
@raseli4066
@raseli4066 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpruesNBrews thank you very much for the help! I think I got confused by how the instructions and decals had a short vertical line and not a long one reaching all around the plane. Thank you again!
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I hear ya - it's all super confusing. Sure thing!
@karllangner1579
@karllangner1579 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ! But i was already cofused before the end.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
It's a lot, I'll admit 😅
@Mtlmshr
@Mtlmshr Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@minthouse6338
@minthouse6338 Жыл бұрын
Great video, 4000 likes says it all.
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 👍
@danielkennish5012
@danielkennish5012 Жыл бұрын
Great T-shirt 🤘
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you! 🤘♠️
@AZAce1064
@AZAce1064 Жыл бұрын
👍 Impressive 👍
@SpruesNBrews
@SpruesNBrews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@salazarju1
@salazarju1 Жыл бұрын
From these exposition, the Stafell has 12 airplanes (1->12). But in the references I found airplanes marked with number highers than 12, for exame 21, 300, 18. How you understand this extra numerations?
@mimikurtz4061
@mimikurtz4061 Жыл бұрын
12 aircraft was only the theoretical standardised size of a Stafell. In practice it was sometimes slightly more. Late in the war the size of some fighter Stafelln increased three or four fold. Aircraft with really large numbers like 300 belonged to flying schools.
@andreastimper9848
@andreastimper9848 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, three digit numbers were reseved for flight schools. Later in the war, the amount of aircraft in a squadron were raised to 16, but sometimes they were delivered wit many more, but never with more pilots. Also it was possible to have a number more than once. E.g. in September 1944, there were two black 12 in 5./JG 77 at the same time. Maybe one was a transfer.
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