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Thank you, I enjoy the ZDP as well. I should get an Endura ZDP but the K390 coming has my attention more. I'll probably end up with both, lol.

Have not had mine tested yet but suspect that its similarly hard.

i have the delica zdp, the sabre, 66 hrc, no chips no scrathces, i fill that they build more better than my endura hap40. the finish better and the FRN feel like more durable and quality. best all day knife in right hands.

I want the K390 Endura, it would be nice on a Delica too.

Different steels for different uses; ZDP holds an edge better, but m390 is much more corrosion resistant, and likely tougher as well given carbide volume.

@@Harkwit Did you just bring nuance into a 14 year old boy "can beat" argument? Cmon now. That's not the game. ZDP can beat up your dad too.

Your comment is 3 years old, now the Queen Delica is in K390 as you must know.

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Thank you, that's the goal to give a perspective of how one compares to another.

Thank you and I'll give it a try. I've made some changes to videos that will be out soon.

You're welcome and thank you. I'll be looking for an S90V to test and I'm going for the K390 Endura. The Delica is a travel and secondary knife for me so I don't want too many of them.

I got an endela lighweight in k390 and my stretch 2 is in k390. I love them 💯 my m4 delica is so nice I would get another one till they are sold out. I call it my mint chocolate chip knife. 😎 can't wait for my endela in k390 and endura in m4

This Delica M390 made it well in to the top 10 performing M390 knives out of the 70 or so I've tested. It's a good buy for the money.

Thank you and you're welcome

Much better than the first one.

With Spyderco you will be getting a better than average to great heat treat on most of their steels. They are a brand I like as users since you are getting what ypu pay for far far more often than other companies in their target market.

You're welcome and thank you

Except m390 is not good from the majority of manufacturers. Only about 1% of manufacturers are doing a good job with it.

@@tacticalcenter8658 Spyderco do M390 (20cv, et al) well? I've heard they water down the performance with heat treats around the 59-60 range. Want to be sure.

@@ringbadingbingrading1181 spyderco, Reate, twosun and knives heat treated by Peter's heat treatment in m390 /20cv is good. A few others to name but not many. These are all around 60hrc and outperform those that are at 61hrc from other manufacturers. It's all in the profile of how the heat treatment is done. Spyderco does have some in the 62hrc range. But overall they perform better than most brands overall even at 59 and 60hrc with their profile.

@@tacticalcenter8658 Thanks for replying! I recently purchased the 20cv delica from DLT trading, and was a little nervous about Seki City since they don't have a large history of working with 20cv or it's analogues. You reply helps ease my irrational worries. Thank you.

@@ringbadingbingrading1181 sorry I ment spyderco USA. Spyderco Taiwan or spyderco Japan may have a bit lower performance. You'll have to see if outpost76 did some cut tests on them. I'm guessing that they may burn the edge on them sharpening them and may need to sharpen a bit more to get past the burnt edge. But regardless you should have something acceptable.

I got the same one and the m4 version sprint run on the way 😆 its crazy sharp. And a k390 endela

@@clavididk1236 their M4 sprints are really nice. I grabbed the Manix 2 in M4/mint FRN when they ran that and love it. I have a K390 stretch 2 and that’s a really nice knife.

@cfltitan I got the stretch 2 in k390 too! 🤣 grabbed an m4 endura and k390 endela last night. Should be here in a couple days

@@clavididk1236 very nice! Always fun getting new knives. The latest one I got was one of the native chiefs in M390 that was a sprint run but wasn’t a very big seller because they still have them for sale through Spyderco themselves.

@cfltitan I love the belly on the chef sooo much. It's so cool 😎 I just can't pay more than like 160 for a knife. So smock, shaman, yojimbo and sage are no go's for me cuz of price. But I'd love to have them. Especially in m4. I love the m4 sprint runs on blade hq. They still have black blade delica mint green scales and the endura satin blade m4 steel with mint green scales. 👌 I got both. My other endura is in zdp189 so I can't wait to see them side by side. They were $99.99 when I got my zdp189 now they are 114 because they are discontinued. Plus i like a basic lock back system. I font like the pm2 lock much. I sliced my finger on my spy 27 manix 2 lighweight. I was dripping from closing the blade. And it knicked my finger 😆 it's razor sharp. Now the native in magnacut I think I'm going to hit with the 600 grit stone and strop it I need a 800 grit 💎 stone. But 600 the best I can find atm. It does the Job. 👍

This is something I'll be adding soon. See how well polished does against coarse and with different finishing stones and strops. I have lots of 1500 grit data so I'm going to add 600, 4K, 8K and 12K to see where they end up.

I haven't used the M390 Delica for anything but testing. ZDP-189 is a steel I really enjoy and it would be my pick. This M390 did well and there is nothing wrong with it. Between these 2 you could go either way and not be disappointed.

@@Outpost_76 Awesome. Thanks for the info.

I did a hardness test on an Endura 20CV a couple weeks ago and it was a 5 test average of 58 rc. The Delica here in M390 was 62 rc. If someone offers one to test I'll absolutely test it. I won't buy one just to test though seeing how I haven't seen any test well hardness wise yet.

@@Outpost_76 I have one I can send you, it is kind of disappointing if spyderco could nail the treatment for m390 but not do the same for 20CV. Someone else had theirs tested at 59 RC.

It will be coming soon with the rest of the Cruwear series.

@@Outpost_76 Gotcha! Looking forward to it, I feel like in general Cruwear has been a great production user steel. M390 could be really great but rarely is heat treat properly. Thanks for all your hard work Gerald!

Not yet, I'll be doing it along with a Cruwear Dragonfly.

Such an enjoyable steel

I have an S110V and Maxamet sharpening video on the KME as well as some freehand and freehand/guide sharpening. I'm going to be doing a sharpening video with a ZT in S35VN in the next few days that will cover changing the secondary bevel angle. I'll cover burr removal and some other things. I also have a video on how to keep from rounding your knife tip over when sharpening.

@@Outpost_76 Thanks for the reply. For these two - freehand or KME? I own a Sypderco Sharpmaker currently, but fear that I would make more damage than sharpening without guided system.

@@vladosegvic7939 that's one thing I say, fear of messing up is what holds anyone back. You just have to go for it. Once you get past that fear you will learn fast. The first few weeks and couple dozen edges you do you will see a huge improvement. I may do a video showing freehand with sharpmaker stones.

No, the scalpers don't watch cut tests. They price gouge because they know some one will pay it. Taking advantage of people with addiction.

I get 2 or 3 every video even if the knives do really good in cutting.

From 2 Lionsteel M4 I have seen, (an older G10 version and a newer micarta version) they have changed their heat treatment. The difference isn't only noticable by using the knife, but also you can see a different colour, when sunlight hits the blade. The old blade, has a white glare and the new one, has a yellow-goldish glare! That being said, that's what I have seen on my samples, so I'm not 100% sure, they indeed changed their heat treatment, on all the newer made Lionsteel models.

Its too bad Lionsteel is doing that one. I've yet to have any of their M390 that performs well.

The spyopera is gonna be a monster

@@greekveteran2715 it's doubtful they changed it. Provide the cut data.

@@neverstoodachancexx1183 how so? It's lionsteel m390, which has low cutting performance.

Definitely try one, it's a great edc steel.

Exactly