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Spyderco Tenacious Lightweight VS G10

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4 жыл бұрын

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@jmuhr8952
@jmuhr8952 4 жыл бұрын
I can attest the tenacious was the beginning of my spyderco addiction. That and the Ontario rat 1 was the the beginning to this madness. Funny how $40 is a jump in the beginning and then slowly but surely you’re looking at $300 plus knives on a regular basis.
@millwrightman99
@millwrightman99 4 жыл бұрын
Its like drugs .& sex .dealers start you with Pot then you end up with a heroin needle in your arm .I'm sure sex is the same ?you start wanting a quick piece of ass, then you end up with two kids and a mortgage and no sex .but the mortgage lingers on till you die .
@millwrightman99
@millwrightman99 4 жыл бұрын
I hate being a pessimist ,but life will teach you not to be an optimist soon enough .Look at governments all over the world printing money like there is no tomorrow ,but if they catch some poor bastard stealing 50 bucks or not paying his taxes on time ,to jail he goes .They're destroying our future and bribing us with our own money .Then they give billions to corporations that give bonuses to their executives instead of the little mom and pop stores that need the help .Its Obama all over again .Scum bags run the world and you talk about being dark .Later dude got to get a coffee!
@bluebomber81
@bluebomber81 4 жыл бұрын
Legend has it, Frankie's still out there whacking those weeds.
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll find out on Tuesday 😂
@TheBootyWrangler
@TheBootyWrangler 2 жыл бұрын
People say 8cr is a shit steel because they don’t actually use knives for real work and instead use them to flex on people
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 2 жыл бұрын
💪
@knife_outsider
@knife_outsider 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Frankie cut that knife out of the package I thought since when is this a safety channel, but then you show her hackin' down tall weeds and I was like, there it is! Great video guys!
@starkparker16
@starkparker16 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the new SpaceX mission was to bring some much needed 8cr to the ISS.
@mitcheemouse227
@mitcheemouse227 3 жыл бұрын
Im left handed and honestly i dont mind the non ambidextrous knives and to be honest i find it harder to close knives right handedly. I think im gonna go for the tenacious g10 with the od green scales with a blacked out blade. Thanks for the video they make me smile all the time.
@Tenskwatawa4U
@Tenskwatawa4U 4 жыл бұрын
It all depends; an ounce of the Devil's Lettuce is considerably better than half an ounce!
@Killlerbee
@Killlerbee 4 жыл бұрын
My first and only Spyderco is the Tenacious in G10... it was my trial because I never really liked the leaf blades. I bought mine at Walmart for $43. I just don't like the lightweight, they feel cheap. Bottom line, I'm now a fan and I will be getting the Manix 2 in G10 when I can spare $115. Thanks for the overview!
@joytekb
@joytekb Жыл бұрын
I have watch tone of spyderco videos but never found so logical and fun like this.
@LobsterRavioli
@LobsterRavioli 3 жыл бұрын
I have quite a few knives in varying prices and brands, but the Tenacious in my opinion is the best regarding ergonomics. I prefer my Tenacious over my PM2.
@Rocky-fh9wb
@Rocky-fh9wb 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I thought I was crazy or something for preferring my tenacious ergos over my pm2
@manuelacosta4495
@manuelacosta4495 9 ай бұрын
SAME!!!!!!!! Would love to see it come in other uses. I abuse it so much after a while you dont care for fit and finish or centering. Just gets the job done. But would be nice in more steel options for different needs.
@JacobTheHappy1
@JacobTheHappy1 4 жыл бұрын
Spyderco needs to make a tenacious lightweight in a RED color.
@krispybeats6615
@krispybeats6615 4 жыл бұрын
and more steel options 😉
@OnlyGamingClips
@OnlyGamingClips Жыл бұрын
I rotate between the Spyderco Manix 2 LW screw together model, Spyderco Tenacious half serrated, We Banter, and a Ontario Rat 1 D2.
@robertleclerc9854
@robertleclerc9854 4 жыл бұрын
Have my Persistence in my pocket now, still like the G10 better even if it is a little heavier. Not noticeable in pocket.
@David_DY
@David_DY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up on Cabela's Good looking out 👍👊
@wasnt_it
@wasnt_it 4 жыл бұрын
they should have bagged the steel liners on the FRN model - it would have made it a lot more lightweight. (also, I think that the Polestar is less money than the Tenacious - they are pretty close in stats but the Polestar has BD1N )
@OnlyGamingClips
@OnlyGamingClips Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a tan half serrated G10 model, god I hope it comes in the box and not that horrible package!
@robertdouglas4293
@robertdouglas4293 4 жыл бұрын
Always cheers me up, Thanks!
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tauntgaming7370
@tauntgaming7370 4 жыл бұрын
I really want a tenacious and this video makes me want one more
@Bobstea
@Bobstea 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one as a big purchase for a knife a few years ago brown g10 and black blade and last week I go a domino never would have thought I would spend 200$ on a pocket knife
@efcruzado
@efcruzado 4 жыл бұрын
Put premium steel and a compression lock on the Tenacious. That would be a hit! 👍🏽🔪
@fukemnukem1525
@fukemnukem1525 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the Resilience for years. Got it for 25 on clearance at Walmart....just bought the lightweight Tenacious for 35 nib at a pawn shop.....so I'm into both for 60....and that's a whole lot of knives for the money......they're in my rotation and will be for some time to come.
@shaunbryan3421
@shaunbryan3421 4 жыл бұрын
I carry my Spyderco Endura 4 hap40/sus410 pakkawood tip down. It works well for me I just slide 2 fingers into my pocket and pinch the spydihole and lift it out of my pocket and deploy the handle. This is the only knife I carry tip down because it is a lock back and it is a bit fun to deploy in a different way.
@mickkeim4142
@mickkeim4142 4 жыл бұрын
Love those Spyderco’s. Thanks for showing a few to remind us why they are so popular.
@brandonconley2705
@brandonconley2705 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome people!
@cloVerSolo
@cloVerSolo 4 жыл бұрын
8cr13mov steel users keep sharpeners for EDC and spend more time on sharpening than using
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha 😆
@charliedurnford3277
@charliedurnford3277 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool how you both love knives. I think that's a cool interest to share! 😄
@stetsoncoursey
@stetsoncoursey 4 жыл бұрын
Literally just bought the G-10 today!
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you like it!!! Both Tenacious knives I’ve had I’ve loved!
@stetsoncoursey
@stetsoncoursey 4 жыл бұрын
Ohio Knife Lover I hope so too! I got introduced to Spyderco with the magnitude and that has not been a good experience. It constantly squeaks plus it’s not really that true Spyderco experience. It’s a great display case knife but that’s about all it’s good at.
@carlito5552
@carlito5552 4 жыл бұрын
Best liner lock access ever
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@wyldebill7248
@wyldebill7248 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Should own both! Such awesome users.
@rossco-dps5392
@rossco-dps5392 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I'm a little late to this video. Awesome landscaping work at the end there. Bugger, I'm trying to give up knives, yet here I am. Down here these are the Only cheap Spyderco's you can get.... And they're up around the $100 mark. Delicas are around $150 plus. Damnit. Ps, thank you for the stickers.
@panorama4526
@panorama4526 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best knives ever. I wait for the lightweight in green...
@cdigman
@cdigman 4 жыл бұрын
The Walmarts in my area are clearancing their Tenacious Spydercos for 25..nice time to pick one up!
@GrumpyGrunt
@GrumpyGrunt 4 жыл бұрын
Bird and Frankie braving Lyme disease by filming in the un-mown Tick Glen at ECP for our entertainment...R-E-S-P-E-C-T. 😎
@jasonbrown6686
@jasonbrown6686 4 жыл бұрын
How do those lightweight scales feel in hand . I like the idea of light , but only have g-10 on my Spyderco knife . The only thing that bothers me about the lightweight spydercos is that they really remind me of the knives in the plastic buckets by the cash registers in gas stations
@JW-pj1zd
@JW-pj1zd 4 жыл бұрын
That's what they feel like. To be honest they feel cheap. If you want to feel like you got a decent knife for 50 bucks get the g10. The den just feels cheap. It holds up amazingly but just feels cheap.
@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs
@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs 2 жыл бұрын
I've yet to meet a Spyderco model that can beat a Delica. I just love Delica.
@themaggie34
@themaggie34 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you crazy kids your videos are always fabulous!
@Craygunman007
@Craygunman007 3 жыл бұрын
I like the g 10 way better in black FRN looks cooling in orange and yellow but can't find those colors for that knife.
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 2 жыл бұрын
I have a g10 resilience so I was all geared up to be disappointed by the lightweight tenny. Man, was I wrong on that…great ergonomics, smooth FRN, fully lined, lightweight but still sturdy. I love all my snobby crucarta and Taichung stuff but the lightweight is a great little knife
@thomaslanders6244
@thomaslanders6244 4 жыл бұрын
The tenacious was my gateway knife about 8 years ago.. Now, I can’t stand them. I’m fine with 8CR except it’s much more rust prone (less then D2) then people think. Funny, one of my oldest and easily most used knives is a green Delica. I’ve had it caked in mud a couple times and just washed it out with soap and water. The tang is full of deep scratches from the mud and sand before it was cleaned.
@robertthompsonii6657
@robertthompsonii6657 3 жыл бұрын
“If you know someone susceptible to knife addiction get them a tenacious.” Lol!
@alpine1600s
@alpine1600s 4 жыл бұрын
What I would be buying with the same money, plus $10. A SR1 Lite. Same 8CR13mov, plastic scales, but a LOT more knife.
@andrewhaley8992
@andrewhaley8992 4 жыл бұрын
I have a love hate relationship with my tenacious. I can get it really freakin sharp, but no matter what get it centered. Actually have contemplated getting the LW.
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
Some people have had that problem! The Tenacious I have now has 4 washers, 2 on each side. Maybe you should check the thickness of each side
@andrewhaley8992
@andrewhaley8992 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried everything, I even lightly polished the washers. It’s really bad, like it hits the liner. I still carry it sometimes. You think we will have football on time? Looks like we just got another 5 star QB, Go Dawgs!
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Haley That’s so weird to hear about your Tenacious man! I think football is gonna start on time but they might not have so many fans in the seats and limitations on concessions. I hope we do better this year man!
@andrewhaley8992
@andrewhaley8992 4 жыл бұрын
Ohio Knife Lover I still think y’all have the best QB, should be an awesome season.
@alpine1600s
@alpine1600s 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Spyderco went with the plastic texture, cause it's cheaper to manufacture, thus increasing the profit margin, which if you google or look into with Spyderco and Benchmade their MSRP is over 100%. Meaning they price their knives 2x the cost of manufacturing.
@danofiremano
@danofiremano 2 жыл бұрын
The China-Mart in my area hasn't carried Spyderco's for almost two years. They still have Buck & CRKT as well as the Kershaw stuff, but they quit selling Spyderco all together for some unknown reason?!?
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 2 жыл бұрын
Seem to have 😞
@docoluv9
@docoluv9 4 жыл бұрын
Watched till the real end y'all.
@vinniedayhikerb4977
@vinniedayhikerb4977 4 жыл бұрын
Come for the knives. Stay for the puns!
@danokitemanotoo1791
@danokitemanotoo1791 4 жыл бұрын
Now I have to get a Black bladed FRN Tenacious at Blade HQ for $49. The budget black isn't as wear resistant as say a PM2 DLC black.
@kylewood8327
@kylewood8327 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Manix 2 and Tenacious both in G-10, love them both! The lightweight versions just look cheap to me. Believe it or not the Tenacious was my 5th Spyderco knife, started out with the Para3. But it’s definitely one of my favorite carry knifes!
@OnlyGamingClips
@OnlyGamingClips Жыл бұрын
I got the Manix 2 LW screw together, and I was worried about the same issue until it arrived, and it can really hold up to any task, and is really sturdy. I'm gonna switch out the ball cage with a flytanium one, and put some titanium screws in it as well. But I def recommend the new screw together models.
@mwhich50
@mwhich50 4 жыл бұрын
I do own the lightweight Para 3, Manix 2, and the "lightweight" Police. I also have an orange, blue, OD green, and tan Tenacious. I don't see a good reason to get this one.
@BrentonCarr
@BrentonCarr 4 жыл бұрын
They gotta get off that 8cr13mov at $50. Give me D2 or give me death!
@gnomersy1087
@gnomersy1087 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Or BD1 or 12C27 or 14C28N, or Aus 10, or VG10, it's not like they're lacking options for steels better than 8CR being offered by other companies at that price point.
@vudoodaddie
@vudoodaddie 4 жыл бұрын
I got the Spyderco sickness.
@Rime0ne
@Rime0ne 4 жыл бұрын
They should make the lightweight versions with thinner blade stock!!
@jobyEN
@jobyEN 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for half-small nested liners...
@TheBigToe69
@TheBigToe69 4 жыл бұрын
Kershaw Leek started my knife craze. Followed the very next day with a Tenacious. Then got real lucky with a cpm 4v Manix2. Now I’ve added a m390 Pm2 and Pm3 from Bento Box. Used my stimulus to get a Sebenza 31 and Zt 0562ti. It is an addicting hobby for sure. Still carry the Tenacious to work with me daily just because of sharpening ease and I don’t want to ruin my other knives.
@christopherlombardi4958
@christopherlombardi4958 4 жыл бұрын
Go check your comments loser.. linked a vid.. your wrong
@chriswolf7169
@chriswolf7169 4 жыл бұрын
Gesundheit🤣😂indeed, love my spyderco(s) gettn my manix 2 in a couple days🤗 keep on keepn on guys😁🤙👍🤜💯🤛
@Hayabusa_Rider
@Hayabusa_Rider 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your view on the Para 2 family? ( Ergos, performance, etc....)I wansnt a big spyderco fan until I got one and now.... I must have ten-fifteen in different steels and colors. Love the vids guys!! I personally like g10 ....
@MrFomhor
@MrFomhor 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend the Spydie Emphasis. 🥰
@kevink.2719
@kevink.2719 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome looking knife
@davegoodridge8352
@davegoodridge8352 4 жыл бұрын
Cheaper steel is so much easier to sharpen. And fun to sharpen also. I save my blades by carrying a extremely light utility knife, thanks to Nutnfancy advice.
@mzbattung
@mzbattung 4 жыл бұрын
The tenacious g10 at my local Walmart is 42.99
@caclayton2007
@caclayton2007 4 жыл бұрын
The real question is why that g10 tenacious is still tip down?
@bert2530
@bert2530 4 жыл бұрын
This LW is just marketing, they could have at least used the wire clip. Love my Tenacious by the way, stonewashed finish on blade and liners, anodized the test of the hardware including a deepcarryclip, and got me brass scales which i gave the “shipswreck” patina. I love it. Could have bought me a Para 3 for all that money, but yeah......
@shaggy_e210
@shaggy_e210 4 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming the scales are swappable? Cheaper knife to pimp if so🤷🏻‍♂️
@danielforsberg1084
@danielforsberg1084 3 жыл бұрын
Can you swap scales on them? Like for exemple, flytanium scales are they workin on the lightweight?
@Eric_Schon
@Eric_Schon 4 жыл бұрын
I like a good fresh mowed field. Maybe leave a strip down the middle
@P1015532oni
@P1015532oni 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why people complain about 8cr13mov, or AUS8 for that matter, is that they can’t sharpen their knives to save themselves. These are the type of people who probably fork out money to ship their knives out for someone else to do it.
@forrestswain543
@forrestswain543 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a Spyderco collection update for 2020?
@MA-lq6eb
@MA-lq6eb 3 жыл бұрын
**FRN WINS EDC, G10 WINS LOOKS**😤👌😆 G10 IS NICE BUT WAY OVERRATED. I GOT 2 OF EACH...1 BLACK G10, 1 BLACK FRN, 1 SILVER G10, 1 SILVER FRN (ALL W/THE SEMI-SERRATED BLADES). BLADES ARE IDENTICAL, ALTHOUGH THE BLACK COATING IS SMOOTHER/LESS STICKY. I BY FAR PREFER THE FRNs FOR EDC. THE GRIP & TEXTURE IS JUST FAR SUPERIOR FOR PRACTICAL USE. THE FRN WILL NEVER SLIP IF WET, OILY, OR DIRTY. CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT THE G10...FEELS CLUNKY & SLIPPERY IN THE HAND...U GET OIL ON THIS HANDLE 4GET IT, UR GRIP IS COMPLETELY COMPROMISED. NOW WITH REGARD TO THE LOOKS/AESTHETICS...THE G10 WINS AS BEING A MORE BEAUTIFUL KNIFE. SO HAVE DECIDED TO PUT THE G10s UP FOR MY UNTOUCHED COLLECTION & THE FRNs WILL ACTUALLY BE USED FOR EDC & EDC BACKUP.👍
@anthonyp7051
@anthonyp7051 4 жыл бұрын
Pm2 with me now 3yrs
@pop4803
@pop4803 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind frn but I bet if you asked 10 people 8 would prefer g10. Thanks Harry
@tommyboy8341
@tommyboy8341 7 ай бұрын
So i found one on blade hq for 50 should i get it
@rhinotrap760
@rhinotrap760 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Tenacious. Gets used and abused. Easy to sharpen.
@richardjohansen4638
@richardjohansen4638 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys
@carlstanland5333
@carlstanland5333 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s very holey in there.” There’s a giggity in there somewhere, I just know it...🤔
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Thank you
@pcartisan2721
@pcartisan2721 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people comment on videos that are old? Hmm. Well, I had to say, at about 12 mins, Frankie do not so the camera that the chamber was empty. 😆 Sometimes safety nuts, go too far. Who is really going to upload a video of their finger being cut when opening a Spyderco package? 😳
@Pizzaxbandit
@Pizzaxbandit 4 жыл бұрын
I got my tenacious at Walmart for 5 bucks. I could not complain
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
Quick explanation needed...
@Pizzaxbandit
@Pizzaxbandit 4 жыл бұрын
@@BirdShotIV it was on sale I got that an Ontario rat and Ontario pilots knife all for like 30 bucks or something like that
@jps2989
@jps2989 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the blade shape an grind on the economy line. Considering the lightweight with s35vn
@uglyfb9133
@uglyfb9133 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a tenacious like an hour ago
@patrickvanovermeeren4513
@patrickvanovermeeren4513 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.... Grunting is allowed..😍😊
@gnomersy1087
@gnomersy1087 4 жыл бұрын
New from Spyderco, the Tenacious G10 model. Only an extra $20 over what you were paying for the same thing last year.
@jm329
@jm329 4 жыл бұрын
Went to Walmart today and it was $37
@jasonbrown6686
@jasonbrown6686 4 жыл бұрын
Hey
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
3rd
@jasonbrown6686
@jasonbrown6686 4 жыл бұрын
BirdShot IV sweet , I thought I was 4th !!! You guys ( guy / girl ) take care !! Thanks for the video !!
@mewithknives3481
@mewithknives3481 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have the alcyone or polestar? If so thoughts on it?
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet
@mewithknives3481
@mewithknives3481 4 жыл бұрын
@@BirdShotIV the polestar is basically the tenacious with bd1 steel and grey g10 scales.
@erhon5
@erhon5 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer frn over g10 so for me this is an improvement. But I agree that spyderco uses “lightweight” like Vizzini uses “inconceivable” sort of right and wrong all at the same time
@evshrug
@evshrug 4 жыл бұрын
8CR13MOV is crap, blah blah blah, I’m saying that because it’s softer than super steel... but it’s harder than food, wood, aluminum cans (and can cut all the above), sharpens to a very keen edge, and happens to be the steel on my most used knife (Spyderco Byrd Meadowlark).
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
It works 👍
@evshrug
@evshrug 4 жыл бұрын
BirdShot IV • That it do
@docoluv9
@docoluv9 4 жыл бұрын
Grass needs cutting. Frankiiiii lawnmower Hans to the rescue lol
@silverfoxcondor46
@silverfoxcondor46 4 жыл бұрын
To compete with Civivi and company; all they had to do is make it out of Carpenter BD1. Come on Spyderco....
@Texxus100
@Texxus100 7 күн бұрын
ounces... muricans -.- we need grams BRUH
@BranGrizz
@BranGrizz 4 жыл бұрын
I would say 8cr needs to go away in these lower end knives, bc the R2D2 has proven that you can get D2 in a well made 35$ knife
@colonelaengus7005
@colonelaengus7005 4 жыл бұрын
I simply do not like the lightweight, nor do I like any plastic scale knife.
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
Whats up?
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
2nd
@poisonousnut
@poisonousnut 4 жыл бұрын
My tenacious LW is terrible. won’t center. action is awful. sent it to spyderco and because i opened it they won’t do anything about it. skip the Tenacious LW if you’re on the fence
@TheLastRanger
@TheLastRanger 4 жыл бұрын
Skip Spyderco all together.
@JoshSmith-md8cd
@JoshSmith-md8cd 4 жыл бұрын
Mhm never owned a spyderco I had two benchmade mini grips bm is trash never again. I have a rat 2 right now it’s ok might a spyderco because of the thumb hole for my job
@TedOfNod
@TedOfNod 3 жыл бұрын
Things Spyderco could have done to ACTUALLY make it lightweight: 1. Thinner blade stock 2. Thinner liners 3. Wire clip 4. Bigger opening hole 5. Less liner material The first 3 would cost less to make, since it would use less steel. The last 2 could be done by adjusting the instructions on whatever machine they use to cut out the hole & liners.
@nickedinger1
@nickedinger1 4 жыл бұрын
I own 1 spyderco! Yojimbo
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV 4 жыл бұрын
Frankie has always liked that one more than me. I’m coming around lol
@nickedinger1
@nickedinger1 4 жыл бұрын
@@BirdShotIV I really like the warrencliff style blades / Cleaver style blades! So when I saw the Yojimbo I had to have it. The other Spyderco that I had my eye on what's the ROC
@ohioknifelover
@ohioknifelover 4 жыл бұрын
#spydercosunday
@krispybeats6615
@krispybeats6615 4 жыл бұрын
its all good for 40 or 50 $ but in EU its 90 eur wich sucks balls :D
@LAu-zg8cx
@LAu-zg8cx Жыл бұрын
You scare me, Frankie with a knife in the right hand, Hubby with one in the left and all these moves. Don't you ever stab yourselves? Or do you simply "cut" the vids?
@BirdShotIV
@BirdShotIV Жыл бұрын
Only on a rare occasion-Frankie
@USMC-es4yy
@USMC-es4yy 2 жыл бұрын
It's heavy for a lightweight..cause they just changed scales..it isn't a true lightweight
@johnpaulthegrim
@johnpaulthegrim 4 жыл бұрын
You guys move your hands too much.
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