Sram SX Eagle 12 Speed Drivetrain Review - Honest Opinion On Sram Budget 1x12 Drivetrain/Derailleur

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Rozie Rides

Rozie Rides

2 жыл бұрын

Honesty is the best policy. I share my honest opinion on Sram's budget 12 speed Drive train the Sram eagle SX. This was my first experience using a bike with a 1x12 drive train system, and the experience was an interesting one in the case of Sram's Eagle SX drivetrain/ Derailleur.
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@onlyonecannoli3952
@onlyonecannoli3952 Жыл бұрын
This video is a perfect example of what's wrong with youtube. I appreciate the effort and the reasons behind the video, but this is no different than having a patient make a video recommending what type of surgery one should have and what instrumentality the surgeon should use. As background, I've been working on my own bikes for over 25 years. Have my own little home bike repair center with every tool you need to build, tear down, and maintain any bike. I have built dozens of bikes from the ground up, etc. Among my stable of bikes, I currently have a bike with this SX derailleur and another one with the GX Eagle AXS, so I can talk about this from actual experience. These two derailleurs are on opposite ends of the spectrum in the SRAM lineup. However, if set them up correctly, with the right chain length, most beginning to midlevel riders will notice little to no difference unless you're hitting high/long jumps at a bike park or going down double-diamond DH rides in BC. Bent derailleur hangers are more often at fault for shifting issues after a dump/impact. It's important to understand how the rear hanger on the frame and the derailleur work. The rear hanger is designed to bend and break in order to save your rear mech. Oftentimes, when you suffer impact to the rear derailleur, it will be the hanger that causes the misalignment, resulting in poor shifting. Properly aligning the hanger will typically resolve the issue. Sometimes you need to replace it, but that's cheaper than buying a new derailleur. But guess what, If you dump your bike on a rock on the drive side or smash the crap out of your rear derailleur cause you're hugging the turn next to a huge root or rock, you're going to mess up your derailleur regardless of the quality. Most of what you're describing sounds like alignment issues after impact. A decent mechanic would start there (but many don't). Instead, they'll blame the component and will upsell you to a derailleur you don't really need. You will be heartbroken and surprised to find out, that under most circumstances, your $250+ rear derailleur will bend and break just as easily as your $90 one. As for performance (especially with SRAM), if you ride flowy mid-level trails, you will be hard-pressed to notice the difference between the two. Sure, you may hear your chain rattle a little more going through a rock garden, but I doubt you would be focusing on that while riding through it. First and foremost, find yourself an honest and knowledgeable mechanic who doesn't care about selling your products or services. Even better, take the time to learn bike maintenance yourself, and cut out the middleman. I know I do the best work on my bikes, not because I'm the best mechanic, but because I care about my client. 😁
@sdnenpngom
@sdnenpngom Жыл бұрын
I agree with you mate. This guy is just pure one sided opinion.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Жыл бұрын
Your post makes sense, but the person who shot the video made it very clear that he's just getting into mountain bikes, and is not an expert. That said, I've seen many complaints about the SX series from both techs and riders. So I have to ask, why? There are countless comments from people who went from SRAM to the equivalent Shamino and are almost always very happy with the switch. Why would the same amateurs having issues with SRAM, get good results with Shamino? Wouldn't you expect them to get the same type of results with Shamino? I'm only asking because I'm trying to make the same choice. I don't care what brand it is, I just want to get the best products for my money.
@onlyonecannoli3952
@onlyonecannoli3952 Жыл бұрын
@@AT-wl9yq I've read... People say... Many have commented... I speak from personal experience and actual long term experience. Most people can't tie their own shoe laces, much less tune a bike. Consequently, their opinions are next to useless on the subject. A well tuned SX or Deore will be just as reliable as the other. I also own bikes with Shimano components, so I have no bias in favor or against either.
@mutleyadamsracing2684
@mutleyadamsracing2684 3 ай бұрын
He wrecks and guys who wreck break shit!
@mikelukash9133
@mikelukash9133 5 күн бұрын
I agree with you and thanks for the comment but the bike is 3 weeks old and the shifting was bad from day one never had a crash or hit any thing. I replaced the SX with a GX and same problem so I replaced the hanger same problem any ideas? I brought the bike to the shop to see if they can figure it out.
@Paolo-qe7lc
@Paolo-qe7lc Жыл бұрын
You helped me a lot! I looked at a Specialized at my bike shop I wanted to get then started hearing bad opinions. The one thing I hate about my GT aggresor is the deraileur.
@beejaysaenz3035
@beejaysaenz3035 Жыл бұрын
Same SX set came on my bike and after less than 100 miles, I realized that had to be swapped ASAP. Experienced all sorts of shifting issues and after a couple trips back to LBS I decided to upgrade to X01 shifter and derailleur along with XX1 gold chain for the bling. Still running SX cassette and crankset but what a difference already. Bike shifts super smooth and crisp! Eventually will upgrade rest of drivetrain but for now its good enough for me.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
hahaha man the gold chain looks far to nice on any bike, what are you running yours on ?
@ljhoule3394
@ljhoule3394 Жыл бұрын
Well I’m a bit older (66) and perhaps a bit more crazy. I race competitively most recently; Gravel bikes, I ride a Diverge with the 105 group and was about to upgrade to SRAM, however, because of this video I will take a look at both Shimano and SRAM so thanks for your review. I might add that I learned decades ago; “SBSB” or sacrifice body, save bike. You will get there!
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
haha SBSB unfourtantly most incidents end up sacrificing both. working towards just 1. 66 man hoping to be able to keep riding when i get there, really inspiring!!!
@dehvinkriss9538
@dehvinkriss9538 2 жыл бұрын
My deore has been bullet proof if the slx is anything like it you can throw it off a brudge driver side down and wont have any issues. Interesting insight on the protrusion of the derralliuers in comparison!
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t say I’m willing to try that test myself but definitely super durable in my experience so far!
@alanbachman6453
@alanbachman6453 2 жыл бұрын
Someone is feeding you a line of bull, you could have went right to a GX rear Mech with all the other sx/nx equipment. Done it many times.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Alan that’s a shame to hear though for myself could have saved some cash. What bike you got it on? Performance is still good considering ?
@alanbachman6453
@alanbachman6453 2 жыл бұрын
@@rozierides558 I have it on my Wife's Bike and it shift great! A SX or NX Group Set with a GX Rear mech is a very common setup. That is one of the big advantages of SRAM is all their 12 Speed MTB Components are interchangeable. Only area you can get in a bit of a snag is if you tried to run a GX 52T Cassette with an NX or SX Rear mech as they are only designed for up to 50T Rear Cog.
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
@Alan Bachman you don't need 51t my 50t 32t will climb any ascent and I'm 105kgs.kitted out in fact 34t for better top speed would B good. My other bike 11x32. 46t.climbs similar to 50t eagle but 11t top speed very sad a joke from australia .
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
@@alanbachman6453 52t
@dayinnymtb
@dayinnymtb Жыл бұрын
Ya dude either didn’t know what he was talking about or just lied. I had a GX derailleur with everything else SX. I went full GX later but I just like the ergos of SRAM over Shimano, Aldo cable routing of the derailleur is much better.
@gtrider9731
@gtrider9731 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy owns a bike shop and he said as much as he hates working on the SX there always coming into the shop to be fixed. Love hate relationship for him 😆
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
😭🤣
@josephfogus6735
@josephfogus6735 Жыл бұрын
I have had a Shimano deore 1x10 derailleur for 5 years. It's bulletproof.
@mikelukash9133
@mikelukash9133 25 күн бұрын
I had Shimano XT for 8 years and rock solid. I just replaced the rear derailleur for $67 original shifter and I ride for 2 hours twice a week on some technical stuff. Can not beat the price and durability of Shimano
@end.er.
@end.er. 4 ай бұрын
I haven't had any issues with mine, I think what your describing is just the overall issues caused by damage on any derailleur. Don't matter if you have an entry-level or premium model, both will suffer from wear and tear in the same way.
@snowman22ism
@snowman22ism 9 ай бұрын
I just put a gx on my sx system. Works fine. Didnt have to chamge anything else. Its just a derailleur.
@stephenharden6273
@stephenharden6273 2 жыл бұрын
I am buying a Tallboy D build, which has the SX. I am concerned. I wanted the R build, w/ NX but supply constraints have no availability. I will upgrade the derailleur soon. Thx for the review.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
No worries man thanks for taking the time to watch. The tallboy is such a beautiful bike, santa cruz really has it nailed with the style. What colour did you get ?
@BIKEBROSTV
@BIKEBROSTV Жыл бұрын
having chronic issue with the SX this really sucks but the looks is sick but i will give up with this GS and will go to deore 1x11 m5100...i thought im the only one having this problem with my SX 😓. Im going to Shimano this time but ill leave my SX crankset.
@jblasls
@jblasls Жыл бұрын
I have less than 1000 km with my sx derailleur and it seems to have a lot of play on its moving parts, still working decent, but I don't give it much more km to start failing. I have to say that it haven't received any hit so far. But the whole group is so far good. So replacing only the rear derailleur with a GX will be the next step.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
yeah that's the right move i wish i did that. i was misinformed by my mech that i would need to replace the cassette to also to the gx to run the gx derailleur found out that wasnt the case.. Dont know if it was malicious intent or not but glad you had the foresight to toss the GX on there with the old drive train
@dododale-ni7bf
@dododale-ni7bf Жыл бұрын
thank you, you just save me from disaster, I bought Shimano work like a dream. you are the champ!!!
@horusgarcia1
@horusgarcia1 6 ай бұрын
I bought a used SRAM SX groupset and it had issues shifting from 50 to 42t. I think i have narrowed it down to the derailleur.
@icantgivecredit871
@icantgivecredit871 10 ай бұрын
The 12-speed Shimano cassettes use a different standard. Did you keep the SRAM cassette?
@flaviomarzocchi7444
@flaviomarzocchi7444 Жыл бұрын
Sx/Nx cassette it 's fully compatible with all eagle derailleur more expensive..
@turiddu773
@turiddu773 2 ай бұрын
hi,i have a sx gropset but i want to change the shifter with a gx shifter.the sx shift lever is compatible with gx shifter? thank you!
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
GX is good very but I've never had ant spills. Which could damage any rear mech but SX especially vulnerable protrudes too far out
@thatguynathan5816
@thatguynathan5816 Жыл бұрын
You do realise you need to maintain your mech. No matter how cheap or expensive any derailleur can shift and be set up well. But maintaining it thats what people dont realise is the part people dont do. New /adjusted cable, lube. Etc usually will fix it
@melainkinney7213
@melainkinney7213 11 ай бұрын
was about to buy fezzari bike but they all come with sram sx eagle saved my day i'm not wanting to buy entire new drive train
@rualodinVLOGS
@rualodinVLOGS 2 жыл бұрын
Great review
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
THanks man!
@Joelrey2007
@Joelrey2007 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I want to buy the Grand Canyon 7 which has this derailleur, my current bike is close to the price but offers so much less, Clark hydraulic brakes: they have a pumping issue where I have to squish then like 4 times for them to brake properly, Acolyte drivetrain, which works well but it's very noisy, I know SRAM SX is not the best but I think it's better than the Microshift acolyte, And a 140mm Rabe cero fork, which is why the bike Costs nearly 1k and does not have Shimano components, I did feel a lil scammed but the frame is the most beautiful I have seen from any bike that price, still, canyon has some discounts which is why I'm considering to buy the Grand Canyon 7, is just so much better in every way
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
Have you had your breaks bleed recently could be the problem at hand. The Grand canyon 7 has not done me wrong outside of the derailleur issues I have had. However, the performance to value ratio of the grand Canyon 6 over the Grand Canyon 7 is is far superior for the price point and specs that come. if your looking into getting a new bike with the canyon line take a look at grand canyon 6
@Joelrey2007
@Joelrey2007 Жыл бұрын
@@rozierides558 so, do you think that trading the Rockshox fork for the suntour is worth it? I knoe that the Shimano XT is far superior than the SX but I not planning to upgrade the suntour fork, I'm 16 so I don't really have a way to upgrade fast, I'm planning to buy the bike and leave the components that it comes with for at least 2 years. And also the dropper and the m400 brakes
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris 2 жыл бұрын
SRAM SX looses the budget groupset battle by a mile to SLX and Deore mostly due to the derailleur. It's derivative NX was meant to be an easy 12s upgrade for HG drivers but when the stuff comes on a new bike it's not so fun.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with this more! Although having this foresight wouldn’t have changed purchasing the bike as there was next to none inventory when I purchased, I hope for people buying now with more options can make the right choice from the get go!
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 Жыл бұрын
Could I fit a GX cassette on a 135QR axles, so long as I have an XD driver? Do you guys know if it would fit?
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob99174 I wouldn't waste your money on expensive cassettes unless everything else is peach
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris Жыл бұрын
@@Jacob99174 How did you get an XD driver on the old tech? But yeah GX fits XD. Give a call to your LBS to be sure.
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 Жыл бұрын
@@MajorBorris I upgraded my wheels on my hard tail to DT Swiss 350 hubs. I installed HG to be compatible with my stock cassette, but I already have an XD driver in a bag on the side. My main question is would the height of the Gx cassette fit inside of a 135 QR axle, aside from swapping hub to XD? I don’t want to purchase the cassette only to find out it doesn’t fit
@duyle557
@duyle557 6 ай бұрын
Little late to the party but wanted to give my .02 1. Your information on the group sets are inaccurate. All SRAM eagle components are interchangeable regardless of their level. I run xx1, x01 and gx parts on one bike. The only difference is going from nx to gx cassette which requires an XD driver. But you said in your video that you are running slx. Well, slx requires a microspline so you still need a new hub so what’s the point? You could have gone with an nx cassette and the rest gx components. 2. SRAM derailleurs do not extend further than shimano. They come with a jockey wheel liner and you’re supposed to line it up when installing it to get the correct alignment. 3. SRAM derailleurs-imho-are engineered better than shimano. First, you can lock out the clutch completely and second, every cable runs through a pulley system for smoother cable pulls. 4. Sx is an oem component so it’s supposed to be crap. Hell, even nx is crap as they still use bushings instead of bearings and a steel cage instead of aluminum or carbon. You get what you pay for. This is why everyone runs gx on up. 5. Slx is a great system but I would recommend an xt shifter to get the single pull like all the SRAM shifter. I run 2 SRAM bikes, 2 Shimano bikes and 1 microshift bike and if their one advice I can give to new riders who want to upgrade is to go gx or slx and higher. You will see the biggest jump in quality. Good riding!
@Prosecute-fauci
@Prosecute-fauci 4 ай бұрын
Step one: learn how to do all bicycle maintenance yourself.
@shredrick25
@shredrick25 2 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with my SX too.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s unfortunate last thing anyone wants with a new bike or drive train 🙃
@checco83
@checco83 Жыл бұрын
Non sono d'accordo perchè uso sram sx e mi trovo molto bene, non ha senso paragonare sram sx con Shimano slx perche è di alta gamma 😢
@GokkunGuru
@GokkunGuru Жыл бұрын
SX is a play on the word "SUCKS". The rear mech is made mainly of plastic. The only good SRAM Eagle is GX and up.
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
LOL nice one. can not argue with this one my friend
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
@@rozierides558 adelaide Australia.. bike shop here dumps on SX rear mech. But my.GX is vgood better than shimano SLX 4sure 11x1
@aaronscarberry8908
@aaronscarberry8908 Жыл бұрын
SLX is not on the same level as SX. It seems like someone is giving you a lot of bad advice. There's definitely a lot of things that you are wrong about.
@groupnakub
@groupnakub Жыл бұрын
slx kick sx out of the window
@usernamefromhell
@usernamefromhell 4 ай бұрын
Unless spending 1k+ for something electronic, Shimano slaughters anything Sram makes.
@armandojuan64
@armandojuan64 Жыл бұрын
Use Shimano .
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
Made the switch to SLX, won’t look back 🤟
@mikelukash9133
@mikelukash9133 25 күн бұрын
SX is complete garbage !! It came on my GT Senor and with in a week it started to ghost shift and come out of alignment. I have Shimano XT on my Pivot 429 for 8 years and never had a problem just replaced it recently because I thought it was time. I'm sure the XO1 & XX1 are great but also cost a lot more for something so delicate and prone to breaking so frequently. I will stick with Shimano.
@beafmilk
@beafmilk Жыл бұрын
I have NX groupset and it is rubbish. They build them bad to make us buy the expensive stuff. Marketing....
@rozierides558
@rozierides558 Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely alot of dodgey marketing involved in the cycling industry as a whole, even aside from this product. I understand they are trying to create "Affordable" parts for the consumer buts its tough to see it making sense when your forced to buy new ones once it fails earlier than it really should
@fredaodh
@fredaodh Жыл бұрын
NX is terrible. buy XT.
@ChinamanDrip
@ChinamanDrip 10 ай бұрын
Was about to order Canyon Stoic 3 but not anymore lol thanks
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