SS14 - Hyper Convection Machines Explained (And How to Deal With the Heat)

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SS14 - Hyper Convection Machines Explained (And How to Deal With the Heat)

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This video aims to explain how to make hyper convection machines, what they do, and how to deal with the heat they let off. There are better methods out there for sure, please share them in the comments down below.
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@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

If anyone has better methods of cooling hyperconvection machines, please share them in the comments. I'm just giving base level ideas of how to manage the heat. This is probably the best method: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcmClJaHuZ63oXk.htmlsi=ltXAfd5i_JsURHlZ

@NomNumNomYum 3 ай бұрын

7 space heaters surrounding it and one for accessing (I have had this happen)

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

@@NomNumNomYum The minecraft enchanting table method lol

@remuchi8874 3 ай бұрын

you can actually just place a passive vent and connect it to a freezer/hellfire freezer. Put it on 293K (room temperature). Usually works fine

@Spessman 3 ай бұрын

Just put frezon into distro, duh.

@05Matz 3 ай бұрын

I'm wondering about using radiators to equalize temperature with a gas loop (either the waste loop or one going to radiators in space) without venting the room's air,

@scottmacgregor3444 3 ай бұрын

Now I'm imagining the amount of heat you pump out in Frontier. "Oh, I want an upgrade of 12 thrusters, that is 48 capacitors right there. And I also want the gyro upgraded, two generators, the ore processor, and a few toys like advanced magboots." A casual 75 parts later and the walls are melting, and not from the space drugs

@donk8961 3 ай бұрын

Frontier merchant here, I build my hyper-convection lathes on an extension built onto my ship. Can’t cook in a vacuum! Though they print WAYYYY slower so sometimes it’s better to use a time efficient standard lathe with t3 parts.

@seanlol0928 3 ай бұрын

man i remember at frointer station, someone put a hyper convection lathe and me, not knowing it produces heat, prints 100 hyper parts and made the room (cargo) a death zone.

@scottmacgregor3444 3 ай бұрын

Did you get boinked?

@donk8961 3 ай бұрын

Setting up and fixing hellfire freezer loops since 2023, good lort it impresses me how few atmos techs can do it correctly

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Probably cause atmos is gatekept more than other departments

@soulfernandes 3 ай бұрын

Pro tip, you can surround this machines with AIRTIGHT plastic flaps, you can interact through them and they won't let hot air out

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

I didn't even know you could make those.

@soulfernandes 3 ай бұрын

@@Liltenhead - It was added recently

@ThatOneGoblin447 3 ай бұрын

Aren't the craftable plastic flaps not airtight despite its name. Iirc there's two plastic airtight flaps and one doesn't block atmos

@soulfernandes 3 ай бұрын

@@ThatOneGoblin447 - No, airtight flaps blocks atmos, maybe you constructed it incorrectly?

@ThatOneGoblin447 3 ай бұрын

@@soulfernandes nvm I had a look at the GitHub and there's two plastic flaps and another two airtight plastic flaps. I see now

@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын

My thought from my limited atmos knowledge, if you're working in a room near the edge of the station: - Create a circular pipe loop between the lathe room and space. - Include a connector port and a pump to be able to dump the contents of a can into the loop. (This does not need to be in the lathe room. Put it wherever along the loop.) - Add a pump to move contents of the pipe in a circle. - Add a couple radiators to the pipe both in the lathe room and out in space. The more the better, especially out in space. - Get a can of CO2 (or whatever, but CO2 seems best offhand) from Atmos or wherever and dump it into the loop. (Set the insertion pump to max to drain the can into the loop.) If needed add a second can, but one should be plenty. - Make sure the pump is running to circulate the CO2 through the loop. Not sure what power setting is best. If my understanding is right, the CO2 in the loop should be forced out into space, where the radiators will chill the fuck out of the CO2. The chilled stuff comes back inside, where the radiators from the warm room should absorb the heat into the cold gas, which is then sent back out to be chilled. I'm completely theory-crafting here, but the thought is to use the same process as to cool a nuclear reactor, cycling stuff through to absorb the heat and then venting that heat off to something else (in this case, outer space). Whether this will work at all with SS14 physics or whether it will provide enough cooling if it does work, I don't know. If your shift's Atmos is bored (which they probably are), try recruiting them to help you build and test this concept! Have the RD ask the CE for help; we're usually looking for things for our people to do if there aren't bombs going off or whatever.

@artisticroomba 3 ай бұрын

Generally what I do is place two space heaters near my hyper convection machines. You can usually do some light re-arranging to comfortably work around them. Set the space heaters to high power and lower the target temp to have a buffer to work with. Combine this with some fancy NT insulated clothing and you're pretty much fine in terms of temperature. If you're not running the clothing, you may be toasted a bit in small rooms but you can just leave the room for a few seconds, and chat at the front desk or whatever. I've seen paranoid RD's spend a quarter of a shift stuffing the hyper convection protolathe into a 2 by 3 box in maints and attempt to setup a hellfire cooling loop. While it is satisfying when it works and cranks out a lot of parts, it's much simpler to spend less than a crate of steel and a little bit of plastic on flatpacking two bluespace heaters. All in the pursuit of science!

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

i have a video comin out in a day that has probably the easiest method to completely eliminate heat.

@FriendlyOne_ 3 ай бұрын

On a server I play we can make little fans with 4 gold ingots, so managing heat becomes a breeze

@Pascij 3 ай бұрын

If you get your hands on a holofan you can put it right ontop of the machine with the same setup you use here in the arti room and the vent will only suck out the tile in the holofan and the hot air cant get out.

@user-uj8kf8ty5x 3 ай бұрын

You can close them with a holographic atmosphere projector, you can put a hyperconvection autolat on a tile with a small fan, you can build a sealed plastic curtain on the tile. All these options will not allow air to escape from the tile and the room will not heat up.

@noelka8134 3 ай бұрын

Aren't holographic projections temporary?

@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын

@@noelka8134 Yes.

@beridot2615 3 ай бұрын

I mean, considering that now we can MAKE airtight flaps, you could put a airtight flap ON the lathes and just.. print freely.. considering that the heat will just stay in that one tile.

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

That just got removed unfortunately

@frog1492 3 ай бұрын

Playing salv and watching sci say “we cant afford to research industrial ore processor” 40 minutes in hurts more now. I never realized you could literally do it as your first research

@05Matz 3 ай бұрын

I just checked and it seems you can build radiators that supposedly equalize heat between the environment and gas in a pipe! This might be the source of a more practical custom cooling system for such machines. Sad there doesn't seem to be a heat pump, though. At any rate, with some cleverness, I'd assume pumping heat into the station's waste gas (which is likely to be merely dumped overboard like open-cycle coolant) would be more power efficient than magicking it away with freezers.

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure that'd be a good solution if you can get good access to space as a scientist, which normally isn't too hard.

@TokiSamurai 3 ай бұрын

Maybe you could also make a freezer and pump equal amounts of cold air in from distribution to what you're pumping out with the waste

@DaFieFie 3 ай бұрын

You don't have to build entirely new machines. Since the only difference is the board you can just disassemble the existing ones and replace the board. Saves even more materials, is faster, and you avoid anyone using the old lathes. You should upgrade cargo too.

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Yeah I mentioned that, I'd also recommend just upgrading

@DaFieFie 3 ай бұрын

@@LiltenheadI must have missed it then. Whoops.

@plutus5238 3 ай бұрын

Yeah Salv not being focused on mining can be a pain. What I really don’t like though is when Salvage takes the ore processor from Cargo. I just don’t understand the salvs that do that. Gives them even less reason to come back to station and basically forces Cargo to have faith Salv will deliver mats or Fulton them back. Which given the state of Salv you can’t always believe.

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

In delta v they outright removed the salv shuttle so there's no reason to take the ore processor with you

@plutus5238 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewgreeb916 damn. How does the mining get done then?

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

@@plutus5238 jetpack, a piece of equipment most salvagers pass up, despite it being very useful. It also makes it so you can come and go from wrecks at your leisure, saves a lot of headaches trying to get the team on the shuttle.

@JadexMk 3 ай бұрын

If you take it with you, it’s easier to dump all the ore into the processor and either Fulton crates of supplies back or drag the ore processor back home. Bit faster than lugging 4 or more ore bags. I encourage as many salvers as I can to mine, or take care of it myself on shift. Unfortunately, I’ve seen both cargos that never touch the crates I’ve sent back, and supplied science departments that never make anything

@IanChunck 3 ай бұрын

Imagine if putting a hyper convection on top of a gas port made it function as an exhaust extractor, depositing hot air into the port with much less radiant heat put into the general environment.

@tiazoh 3 ай бұрын

the materials saved makes this really tempting to use on frontier, I might just be lazy and unlock atmospherics technology and make a freezer in the lathe room

@scottmacgregor3444 3 ай бұрын

Or you could go big brain and put all your lathes outside on a catwalk. Space is a pretty good insulator. Then again you could always just spaced the room they're in. Then you'd have to fiddle with all those pesky firelocks, and accidentally spacing other rooms, but that might not be too bad.

@EnricoSS14 3 ай бұрын

Personally, as a lizard, I don't mind the heat :p

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Well if science is all lizards, leaving the lathes as is might be considered ideal lol

@NomNumNomYum 3 ай бұрын

lizand

@AveriV1 3 ай бұрын

based and lizard pilled

@Dremaus1911 3 ай бұрын

*proceeds to make you cold*

@AveriV1 3 ай бұрын

@@Dremaus1911 EVIL

@meqefi 3 ай бұрын

You can't overheat the air if there's no air *breaks the window to space*

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

I respect that lol

@beauben1334 3 ай бұрын

So instead of upgrading parts like in SS13, we upgrade the board.

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@AlexUm0 3 ай бұрын

i saw people walling off hyper convection lathes with plastic flap things. Not sure if it works

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

It works till someone removes one, then like letting the bottled up heat of a heat anom out everyone gets cooked

@AlexUm0 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewgreeb916 i just thought about, what if you will also put one space heater set to zero Celsius in these flaps walling. It might be not enough to remove all heat

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Can't make those anymore

@AafliW 3 ай бұрын

force Salvage to get materials in return for "skeleton keys" that come out of the ore machines that can open loot crates in salvage missions lol

@johndough12345 3 ай бұрын

hey! Could you make a tutorial about mailing, and the mail system. i recieve mail sometimes, but i dont get how to send an rest.

@Riya-ho5zv 3 ай бұрын

I'll have to experiment with atmos to see what'd be a good way to cool a room. I'd ideally have a room I space while wearing a EVA suit

@scottmacgregor3444 3 ай бұрын

It's no hellburn, but it gets pretty spicy.

@someoneo-o3938 3 ай бұрын

Hey liten! Can you do a tutorial on how to use the REPD?? It would help a lot on how to upgrade these machines..

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

Rped doesn't exist in wizden anymore

@someoneo-o3938 3 ай бұрын

@@Liltenhead oh alright. I just remember one shift where I was trying to figure out how to use it but never could lol. Great video though! I play a lot of sec so this helps with my meta knowledge. The last shift I played, I shot this dude over like 20+ times with a lecter and he still wouldn't die. I now see why!!

@4dmost991 3 ай бұрын

What about conecting a cooler to sci crafting room distro?

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

I have seen hellfire coolers used to keep science at safe temperatures while running these things

@4dmost991 3 ай бұрын

@@andrewgreeb916 yeah, me too, thats why i asked

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

@@4dmost991 I believe they had it hooked up to a passive vent so if they needed to cool the room they turned on a pump and a ton of air from distro was super cooled and pumped into the room. To be fair I was playing salvage that round, I was trying to turn my mining haul into shuttle parts to do an expedition. Cause delta v does not give salvies round start shuttle...

@Dismer100 3 ай бұрын

Could we get a video on stealth ops by chance?

@Dremaus1911 3 ай бұрын

My suggestion is to force salv to mine by making their ship require plasma fuel

@DaFieFie 3 ай бұрын

Nah. Give them toys for mining. Bring in materials, get points for new gear.

@Jetstream_Toster 3 ай бұрын

And they will just mine for themselves and don't give anything to sci, because they can take proto from expeditions

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

Delta v tried that, salv just harassed cargo for plasma

@Fantasticanations 3 ай бұрын

I haven't used a ship for salvage once in the last 5 shifts I've done as Salvage, every salvage tech I've seen just uses a mini jetpack to get back and forth from the expedition. They're only like 50-75m out from the station and anything too heavy to carry can get fultoned

@stormirr 3 ай бұрын

Can we get a good clowning tutorial one day ? That role is so hard to be fill

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

Wait space heater can cool rooms?

@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, they should really be named "HVAC Unit" or something.

@Liltenhead 3 ай бұрын

I was gonna make a joke about cold not existing but that's old lol

@Pvariety441 3 ай бұрын

Was so confused the other day playing cargo. Was trying to find the advanced parts. So these upgraded machines replaced the upgarded parts?

@whips2783 3 ай бұрын

Yeah it's been replaced for a while now. I do prefer the old system but there's nothing wrong with this system too.

@FriendlyOne_ 3 ай бұрын

Old parts still exist in game iirc, but they don't have any improved stats, as now upgrades tied to circuits

@andrewgreeb916 3 ай бұрын

Frontier has both the hyper convection and advanced parts allowing you to achieve very high efficiency rates

@creatorbot0056 3 ай бұрын

You could use freezer in the second part.

@billy_bob_bob8122 3 ай бұрын

Would have to get Atmos to get over there and set it up if you are doing this setup round start, good luck convincing atmos to do that instead of teg or trit setup (assuming they finished distro and waste). Space heaters allow sci (and maybe cargo if you want a bunch) to solely set this up.