Your last paragraph is spot on. Christ’s Holy Sacraments are spiritual gifts truly from that realm that man can not understand but come to us through the infinite love of God the father for His creation through God the Son.

Indeed, they should as it is the true Catechism of the Catholic Church!!

The sacrament of baptism administered in a community separated from the Church can be valid. Here we must carefully distinguish between a valid sacrament and a fruitful sacrament. A sacrament can be valid without being fruitful, that is, without giving grace, if it encounters in the soul an impediment ("obex" i.e. an obstacle or block) to this grace. We could clarify this by giving an example. The sacrament of marriage would be received validly but not fruitfully by a person in the state of mortal sin. He would be really married but would not receive the graces usually given by this sacrament (and, moreover, would commit a sacrilege). When he goes to confession to have his mortal sin forgiven, he has the "obex" or obstacle to grace removed, and at the moment of absolution receives also the grace of the sacrament of marriage. St. Augustine explains that all the goods which are in the Church can be found, in a certain measure, outside the Church, except the grace by which these goods are salutary: "God in His unity can be honored outside the Church; the faith which is one can be encountered outside her; baptism, which is unique, can be validly administered outside her bosom. And yet, just as there is only one God, one faith, one baptism, there is only one incorruptible Church: not only in which the true God is honored but alone in which He is honored with piety; not only in which the one true faith is conserved, but alone in which it is conserved with charity; not only in which true baptism exists, but alone in which it exists for salvation." (Ad Cresc., Bk. I, ch. 29.)

@@SSPX Thank you SSPX for your response to that question.

​@@SSPX hello SSPX ,if the obex is a sin of heresy before baptism which makes it not produce grace, and if it is confessed to the sacrament of penance, can the grace of baptism be poured out?

The blockage that Fr. Robinson was speaking about comes from bad dispositions on the part of the recipient, e.g. an heretical faith or an attachment to mortal sin. But no such ‘obex’ or obstacle can exist in an infant. Thus, such charismatic Catholics are incorrect in thinking that there is an obstacle to grace in the child that they remove by their rituals.

Look at the canons 13 and 14th canons on baptism of the Council of Trent, Dz. 857 and the following. These condemnations would seem to apply (or at least, those charismatics seem to favor such a heresy).

@@SSPX Thank you for both replies, very helpful

I’d say Your wrong. The man and the woman are joined and by the holy Spirt they are grafted into the church as a couple

Luther had a sick and troubled soul, so by his works you shall know him.

To hell with Luther. Let them be. They refused to listen.

From the horse’s mouth (modern Lutheran heretical doctrine)... “Lutherans believe that the Bible teaches that a person is saved by God’s grace alone through faith in Jesus Christ alone. The Bible tells us that such “faith comes by hearing” (Rom. 10:17). Jesus Himself commands Baptism and tells us that Baptism is water used together with the Word of God. Because of this, we believe that Baptism is one of the miraculous means of grace (another is God’s Word as it is written or spoken), through which God creates and/or strengthens the gift of faith in a person’s heart. ...(we) do not believe that Baptism is ABSOLUTELY necessary for salvation. All true believers in the Old Testament era were saved without baptism.” SO In other words, exactly what father explained that. It is just a symbol that strengthens your faith but actually does not impart anything real and is not necessary for salvation. Damning heresy unfortunately. Why the devil inspired Protestantism in the first place. Your protestant relatives may be ignorant about their Lutheran religion, but that doesn’t mean that’s not what protestants believe. You know there are so many protestant heretical sects so who knows. Your insult falls flat in ignorance friend.

That's why they are lutherans and not catholics.

@@TheRealTomLauda To be fair, Father Paul seems to be critiquing an extreme #Calvinist position, & as a Protestant myself I would suggest most Protestants aren't Calvinists. #Totaldepravity is hardly mentioned in #Methodist or #Anglican churches, for example.