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Will have to give it a look. I've been sleeping on surfing games

SSX 3 Own the Mountain with all of the added stuff from On Tour would be peak

​@@RedBerylFTW fax.i wonder if we'll ever get a new ssx game.btw the guy behind ssx has his own studio and is working on something called project gravity which may be a new action sports game so I guess we'll see

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I didn't know that ngl, I was so focused on my left hand switching between stick and pad for the first 3 games. Also, the snowboarding term for the manual type trick is "Buttering"

@@RedBerylFTW Yeah, that's what it's called apparently. Wouldn't say it was mandatory but it sure made slopestyle events far easier in both SSX 3 and On Tour.

I believe he also did quite a few tracks on the Map Max: Fury Road soundtrack too!

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Yeah, hopefully I'll have that done before June or right when the month starts

I said the music was good but didn't fit in with the game lmao *edit* I looked and he did Sims 2 and 3 Nightlife expansion stuff. Good music and it fits that really well

Could really feel EA starting to fall apart around Blur

@@RedBerylFTW alright i just checked out the ost and your right, thats horrible, he obviously didnt care (ea probably payed shit) compare that to the fischerspooner - emerge (junkie xl remix) from ssx3 ... night n day

That doesn't make a lot of sense as a comparison. Skate 4 not having session controls makes sense because Skate already had a control scheme that worked perfectly fine. An SSX game not having controls that existed in previous SSX games is just an objective mistake. The balancing argument also doesn't work. Call of Duty Black Ops/MW3 on Wii had classic controller support as well as the default controls. I also mentioned that Mario Kart Wii, various Need for Speed games, and Goldeneye 007 also had gamecube controller support.

@@RedBerylFTW I mean in the way that for skate 4 the devs have already done the work to rework the control scheme to do something new and integrate the parkour system, yet has people complaining that they they didn't instead spend the time to just copy sessions controls and do what has been done, but actually make the game built around utilizing the new features. Also like I said because the 2 control schemes work entirely differently and make different things easier/harder it makes balancing harder, you also said how this game was already significantly easier and that in this case comes down to the motion controls just being objectively worse in use. Also to be fair while I do still think there are many similarities between the two arguments, I can see how a better comparison would be how the ride and shred games didn't have normal controller support either since they were built around and balanced for the gimmick of the specific entry to the series

@@charpool169 Conflating two completely different situations honestly. You can also repeat the argument about balancing, but the fact is that other games made the right choice by allowing the option. Adding Ride and Shred is also completely different. They were hired as a *very* small indie studio to produce a game with entirely new experimental hardware in less than one year. None of these situations are comparable to each other.

@@RedBerylFTW OK now it kinda seems like you thought I was arguing for it being the correct or better move to make. That is not what I was doing, u was just trying to come up with their reasoning and using the more recent example of a game where the devs have already done the work to rework the main control system and integrate a new system, with motion controls in ssx and the parkour system in skate 4, and actually trying to innovate and do new things to have people say but why don't you just do what's been done. How crappy the video game development system can be with crunch and deadlines and everything that goes along with it is unfortunately pretty well known at this point. Not every project is going to have the time and resources actually given to them to be able to do that extra balance work. Plus even in the examples you have given that had both options its not like the high level/pro players of the games were using the motion option because even when they work, they just aren't going to work better then what has become the standard. Even most modern motion capture controls still have their issue let alone the decade old+ wii controls.

@@charpool169 Sorry if I misunderstood something in there. I can see the perspective. The need to innovate is a good thing. A few games that come to mind that really used the motion controls well are No More Heroes, LoZ Twilight Princess and Punch Out. Swinging the wii remote was perfect for swinging a sword or throwing a punch. Pro CoD players on wii 💀🤣