Stair Railing Installation: A complex task!

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Scott Earl Smith Finishing Touch Carpentry

Күн бұрын

The complex task of fitting a stair railing between two posts is covered in detail in this video. Also covered is the use of the Angled Railbolt from Zipbolt. I detail some limitations and challenges you should know about with this product.
Resources:
FatBoy pencil: www.fastcap.com
Festool drills: festoolcanada.com, woodenedge.ca
Dewalt mitre saw: dewalt.ca, itoolhouse.com
Angled railbolt, Angled slipfix: Zipbolt.au
Finishing Touch Carpentry supports Adult and Teen Challenge, a Christian-based addiction recovery program. www.teenchallenge.tc
Key Moments:
00:00 Introduction
00:59 Marking and cutting to length
02:03 Preparing railing for Angled Railbolt
04:00 Trimming and fitting railing
08:13 Using a 2x4 for mock-up railing
09:10 Angled Slipfix installation
10:20 Zipbolt tips
12:40 Installing Angled Railbolt
14:35 Marking post and installing bolt
15:30 Trouble with fittings
16:28 Fixing problem
17:22 Conclusion
18:03 Closing remarks
Liability waiver: Finishing Touch Carpentry and Scott Earl Smith assume no responsibility for the safe usage of tools, and general safety practices. This is not a safety video and all users should research their own safety techniques prior to attempting any of the techniques shown in this video.

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@architekturadrewniana Жыл бұрын

since long ago I didn’t watch such instructive, professional and honest carpentry… big thanks and respect I will follow your channel with pleasure

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris. That is so encouraging. It's great to hear feedback like this as it's hard to get traction on KZfaq and the video creation process is time consuming.

@MikeHolman-gj5zv Ай бұрын

i usually never comment on video's but , what a fantastic job of explaining how to do this not so easy task and in an easy to relate way ! Thank you it is very much appreciated !

@scottearlsmithFTC Ай бұрын

Well thank you for commenting on this video Mike! That makes the comment even more encouraging. Keep watching. Cheers, Scott

@yvonboudreau3932 Жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, Thanks for showing us mere mortals that even the pros can make an error from time to time. The lesson to learn here is to fix the mistake and keep going. Have a great week.

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

You got it bro. The secret is not in being perfect, but being able to fix your mistakes.

@kenlebo2910 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! It is very helpful to see how you used the Zipbolts. I am working on finishing my stair project, now to the point of railings and balusters.

@scottearlsmithFTC 6 ай бұрын

Good luck with that Ken. Lots of good videos on my channel for railings and balusters. Thank you for commenting and all the best, Scott

@johnzacharias7884 Жыл бұрын

Always the best videos are the ones that tell the truth of there work. Either way great video I watch this tip of videos to learn all I can

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much John! I appreciate the encouragement.

@johnpetrea 9 ай бұрын

Thank You for all your help!!

@scottearlsmithFTC 9 ай бұрын

Thank you John!

@MtCur 11 ай бұрын

Just installed the zip bolt system. That is before I saw your channel. I ran into all the problems you show on your video. Should have watched this before I started. 😂 but it turned out ok. Great video!

@scottearlsmithFTC 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the compliment. Glad it worked out. That particular zip bolt is the only one I have had complications with. Watching a video on something - after you do it and have complications - seems to be the norm. I've done that too! Cheers Scott

@zephyr1408 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again Scott I am building knowledge here! I am building cabinets doors & drawers but also building stair knowledge!

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jim! All the best with the cabinets!

@johnpetrea 9 ай бұрын

Thank You again for your help and videos

@scottearlsmithFTC 9 ай бұрын

You're welcome John. Thank you for all your support! Cheers, Scott

@Toolsofthepast Жыл бұрын

Great video Scott

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jason!

@stevendion1373 2 ай бұрын

Taking the time to add in the pitfalls is helpful. Wish me luck 😅

@scottearlsmithFTC 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Steven. And good luck with your project. I'm sure it will turn out great. Cheers, Scott

@Remodelaholic 7 ай бұрын

Nice video thanks for the great information.

@scottearlsmithFTC 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. I will check out your channel. Looks interesting! Cheers, Scott

@pollo4107 10 ай бұрын

thanks for the tips

@scottearlsmithFTC 10 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thank you for the comment. Cheers, Scott

@wordforever117 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I am starting my first staircase renovation soon. I have half open, half wall like in this video but I want a hand rail all the way up. Thinking I need to use a base rail at the bottom and then do a couple of right angles in the hand rail so it can connect to the wall further up. Looks tricky, but I have always wanted an excuse to purchase a circular saw! ;)

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

That's a great reason to buy a saw and a nice reward for you at the same time. It is definitely doable if you take your time and think it out it. I'm sur it will look great. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for reaching out. Scott

@jguild45 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for allowing me to ask the dumb questions. @14:33 or so, you mention measuring from the bottom 3 3/16". Is it from the top or bottom? Looks like the top because the fill strip is opposite from where you're measuring.

@scottearlsmithFTC 3 ай бұрын

Yes I am measuring from the top of the railing. I mispoke and didn't catch that in the edits. Kudos to you as you are at the first to comment on that. Shows you are paying attention. Thank you for commenting, Scott

@jking9916 Жыл бұрын

Amen on the Jesus comment! Nice job regardless of what you think you boogered up! It's perfect in my opinion. Your videos have taught me a lot! Thanks!

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And thank you for the comment. "In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight."

@torabora81 Жыл бұрын

Great video boss. Thank you! New subscriber to ur channel! Cheers 🍻

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jasser. I appreciate the encouraging comment and the sub. Enjoy the videos!!!

@jguild45 3 ай бұрын

After reading the comments, I didn't notice anyone asking about the lower rail connection to the Newell post. I bought the Slipfix angled bolt (2 pkg). Can I use these for both the lower and top connections? If so, do I register the 1" Forstner hole for the connection to the bottom newell by measuring to the center of the 3/8" hole in the rail (from the top or bottom of that rail)? I am also wondering if this product is designed for both the top and bottom, is the bottom newell "disk" oriented the same as the top or upside down? The instructions explain only the top rail process. Thank you for helping me and so many more!

@jguild45 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your time, but I think I answered my own question(I just ordered the angled railbolt to connect the bottom rail to the Newell). It helps to actually read the instructions (somebody slap me!).

@scottearlsmithFTC 3 ай бұрын

The Angled Slipfix is designed specifically for the upstairs newel connection. In this job when I did the bottom railing,, I simply used a countersunk screw from underneath the railing to connect the bottom rail into the post. Hope this helps. Cheers, Scott

@DanVegas-wm9ik 2 ай бұрын

Roughly 38.75...😂. Great work sir. I determine where the bottom of my rail sits on the bottom post and clamp a block there for my rail to sit on. I mark where the top of the rail sits on the half post. Set my rail on the block out near the edge of the bottom post, mark the top and leave an 1/16th strong for adjustment. Just a way to do it without marking from the rail sitting on the treads to avoid having to adjust for the half newel being out of plumb.

@scottearlsmithFTC 2 ай бұрын

Excellent tips Dan. Often I will just use a clamp on the post but your idea is better. Thanks for commenting. Scott

@DanVegas-wm9ik 2 ай бұрын

@scottearlsmithFTC Thanks Scott. Great videos. You definitely know what's up. 👍👍

@scottearlsmithFTC 2 ай бұрын

@@DanVegas-wm9ik Pun intended I imagine! Hahaha. Thanks Dan, Scott

@paullasko2023 16 күн бұрын

Hi there - I’m planning to remodel a closed set of carpeted stairs with treads/risers that are made out of framing lumber. I want to switch to a stair runner down the center, false treads caps on each side, and white painted risers. What material do you suggest for overlaying the risers? Looks like there are “retro risers”. Any reason not to just use hardwood plywood? My dealer has 1/8”, ¼”, and ½” birch ply. Would ¼” be the best choice?

@scottearlsmithFTC 16 күн бұрын

I've used 1/4, 3/8 or 1/2. Don't use 1/8" because 23 gauge pins will drive right through them. If you're painting the risers then MDF works as well, and it doesn't warp when you paint one side. Good luck with the project, Scott

@christopherhayes4962 6 ай бұрын

Scott where do you show installing the female portion of the zipbolt to piece mounted on the wall

@scottearlsmithFTC 6 ай бұрын

In the Balcony Railing Install with Railbolts video. Here's a link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7mqlaVemt-zqZc.html Thx Scott

@christopherhayes4962 6 ай бұрын

@@scottearlsmithFTC Scott, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, your videos are great!

@scottearlsmithFTC 6 ай бұрын

@@christopherhayes4962 thank youi and you are so welcome! Cheers, Scott

@mikem1956 8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@scottearlsmithFTC 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Mike! Scott

@jamesbeaulieu6195 26 күн бұрын

Does it make sense to use zip bolt on a hollow box newel? Maybe i should add blocking inside

@scottearlsmithFTC 26 күн бұрын

@@jamesbeaulieu6195 It does make sense and yes, I would add blocking if possible.

@johnpetrea Жыл бұрын

Thank You very much

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

You're welcome John. Appreciate the comment. Scott

@johnpetrea Жыл бұрын

@@scottearlsmithFTC your videos are helping me a lot as I am dumber than a post about woodworking… I am trying desperately to learn how to make a return on a handrail without screws or nails showing

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

@@johnpetrea John I have a number of videos on my channel on that. Glad they are helping. The Zipbolt products are good way to hide your connections. I came across them about 10 years ago doing a pre-finished maple railing system. I just couldn't bare the thought of putting a lag bolt with a plug into the joint; so I did a bit of research and found Zipbolt. If you take your time and practice on a 2x4 you'll be very happy with the end product. Good luck and remember that everyone starts out at ground zero with this stuff. Cheers Scott

@mikehoncho7226 Жыл бұрын

Great job, and thanks for sharing. Is there any reason I can't use the angled railbolt for top and bottom, with the 1 inch hole from the side? My rail like a 2x4, with the wider dimension horizontal. It's an open stairwell so the plug would be on the side opposite the stairs.

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

That I don't know. If I was doing it I'd try it on a 2x4 mockup and see if it works before I messed up a railing and post. I assume you don't have a lamello invis or a Domino 700 with the joiners. Those two systems would work for sure.

@mikehoncho7226 Жыл бұрын

@@scottearlsmithFTC I did buy a $4 2x4. Initially I thought I could just use a straight rail bolt, with lag drilled on angle into the newell. I don't know why that wouldn't work, but I can't find any videos from experienced folks like yourself. I don't mind it taking a long time and being tedious, I am not doing this for a living. thanks much for your vids, they've been very helpful. The upside-down newell trick worked great to determine post lengths. cheers

@mikehoncho7226 Жыл бұрын

I attached a 37 degree 2x4 to a scrap piece of post. 1 inch Forstner hold drilled from the side. Worked fine! Thanks, Scott!

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

@@mikehoncho7226 thanks for the feedback Mike. I'm glad it worked! Who says old dogs (me) can't learn new tricks.

@vancehough93 4 ай бұрын

What brand toolbelt do you have ?

@scottearlsmithFTC 4 ай бұрын

Vance, That's and old leather pouch I bought probably in 1977. Not sure of the brand. I recently took it to a shoe maker and had the belt made longer (I guess it shrank LOL) and some other repairs. It's a legend in itself. Thanks for commenting, Scott

@destineeeverhart7 5 ай бұрын

Newbie here...😂 What type of hand and bottom board is that? I didnt see this style available at my local stores, what could be used in their place? Apologies in advance for my dumb question!

@scottearlsmithFTC 5 ай бұрын

Not a dumb question! 😀 That railing is distributed by Windsor Plywood in Canada. It is manufactured by Woodland Supply (also in Canada). Here is their website where they list that railing. Thanks for your question, Scott www.woodlandsupply.ca/products/?c=2&p=7

@destineeeverhart7 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Your videos are helping so many🙏🏻

@scottearlsmithFTC 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. That is encouraging, Scott@@destineeeverhart7

@mechellestudio5430 Жыл бұрын

I would love to hire you…. Where are you located? I’m in Dallas Tx

@scottearlsmithFTC Жыл бұрын

I'm in Thunder Bay Ontario. North shore of Lake Superior. Would love to see the Big D someday, but it's a 20 hour drive. Glad you like the video.

@donhuffer5167 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately that rail is not code compliant. Rails must be continuous to the top with no break.

@scottearlsmithFTC 8 ай бұрын

By itself it's not code compliant. But we added a continuous handrail on the other side of the stairs and in my jurisdiction that makes the staircase code compliant.