@joannesanford7845 Those tears must have blinded you. She is awful. The horse was hollow and never collected. What is Werth's side job? Arm wrestling? Could the FEI be more political? 😑

Das moderne Training beinhaltet Gymnastizierung, Wellness, Gelassenheitstraining und auch Gelände. Oft wird auf Trense geritten. Die Pferde von Isabell Werth und Jessica von Bredow Wendl haben täglich Weidegang. In den Ställen von Charlotte Frys Chefin und Helgstrand Dressage sieht das Leben der Pferde wesentlich trauriger aus.

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@@elkefaber8873Frau Werth lässt ihre Tiere mittlerweile auf die Wiese? Das ist mir neu. Da gabs noch andere Artikel über sie, dass ihr das zu gefährlich ist… Übrigens kommen die Pferde von Helgstrand auch raus auf die Wiese/Paddock, dass muss man diesem Tierquäler lassen…

​@@Lea-wm3pm nicht in der Helgstrand Dependance Deutschland bei Bruchhausen Vilsen. Da gibt es nur Golfrasen rund um die Stallungen. Und bei Langehanenberg gibt es auch nur Maisfelder rund um die Anlage. Es gibt doch Stalltour Videos und Alte Helden mit Satchmo.

Yeah, right. Those tears blinded you to how awful she is. 🤮🤮🤮

Of course he enjoyed nothing😔

No need to be jabbed in the ribs all the time with spurs

Tell that to the horses she abused in the training process!

Isabelle is a superb rider but without the horse she is nothing.

Leider läuft der arme Emilio hinter der Senkrechten und schlägt mit dem Schweif…schonend reiten sieht anders aus!!

Charlotte Dujardin caused bloody mouth of the sensible Freestyle. So her owner took her away from her. Good to see her back with Cathrine Dufour.

Agreed! He isn't round and at times appears a bit short strided on his lh, not forward enough in the 1-tempes. Isabell is a hand rider rather than riding from a correct seat, and as a result, Emilio's hind legs are trailing rather than engaged. Overall movement appears forced and not a happy horse!

@@StCarion2 Yep! Isabell Werth is known for training using Rollkur, and when you do that, you force the horse out of proper frame. They can't possibly engage their hindquarters because they are hard on the forehand, and the improper frame causes the dragging of the hind legs. At the extended trot the two legs going forward should be parallel to each other as well as the two legs stretched to the back should be parallel to each other. When you pull the head in so tight, you break that [skeletal] framing, and what results is what is seen here. A bouncy up and down movement instead of a forward extending movement. You have a keen eye. He is not a happy horse. Emilio is also forced to hollow out his back. What does Ms. Werth care? The FEI has chosen to turn a blind eye to this kind of behavior. Although, she was eliminated on July 4th, 2022 from the Grand Prix Dressage Nations Cup at Aachen, because her horse bled from the mouth. Her hands were just pulling so hard on the horse's mouth that the horse "accidentally" bit himself. It’s sickening and It’s getting more and more difficult to watch. Abuse is never a training tool.

@StCarion2 ich finde auch den Galopp sehr holzig. Springt nicht durch den Körper weil es die Reiterhand nicht zulässt.

AGREED

Kritik wo angebracht, ok. Ich bin auch kein riesen Fan von Isabell Werth, aber für das, was wir sonst schon von ihr gesehen habe, war ihre Vorstellung gar nicht so schrecklich hier. Die Schweifaktion hielt sich in der ersten Hälfte auch stark in Grenzen. Das sieht man regelmäßig deutlich ausgeprägter quer durchs Teilnehmerfeld. Abschnittweise fand ich seinen Schweif sogar Recht ruhig. Dass Frau Werth früher mit Rollkur gearbeitet hat, wissen wir alle. Dass sie nicht die sanfteste Reiterin ist, auch. Diesen Ritt fand ich ganz okay. Natürlich ist sie nicht Ingrid Klimke. Bei einigen Lektionen sieht aber schon, dass sie bei Emilio gut aufgebaut worden sind. Er ist überwiegend schön taktvoll gelaufen. Er ist vom Bewegungsablauf auch echt kein Glamourdale, Franziskus oder Dalera, das ist nunmal so. Trotzdem waren einige Figuren gut herausgeritten und ich fand die Bewertung angemessen. Er ist weniger hinter der Senkrechten gegangen als Dalera bei den Europameisterschaften.

@mia707, I'm guessing you _aren't_ talking about Isabell Werth when you say, "The bond of horse & rider is great." Back at her yard in Germany, her horses won't come to her when she calls to them in their stalls. Isabell Werth is the "demented genius" behind Rollkur. I don't know what your watching.

You're right on! Force does not create beauty and lightness, but years of training and proper conditioning plus that special bond that builds over years on and off the saddle. My gelding willingly dances with me with the lightest aids. It is joyfull. I've seen a video of Isabell doing a grand prix ride on one of her retired horses riding bareback in a halter inside her covered arena.

Amen, well said, thank you!

Your tears should be for the horses that suffer😢

Canadian dressage horses are suffering from bad riding. And those horses in the dark stables of van Holst. Lotti Fry cannot handle Glamordale without a groom.

Queen? Der arme Emilio, ein sanft gerittenes Pferd läuft nicht hinter der Senkrechten, niemals und es schlägt auch nicht mit dem Schweif!!

@vivientakacs5599, The fact that cameras are barred from the warm up is very telling. The bigger proof is that when you watch the horses you can clearly see which ones were trained using Rollkur. What you said about training faster is right on target. That's all it's about these days. Charlotte Fry started with Carl Hester, who does not ever use Rollkur, but left to train in a Denmark yard where Rollkur is used. Yeah, she's on top now, but what about her horses? Rollkur physically damages the horse's spine and other skeletal bones, and for what? So the rider can claim to be the best! Shameful. Charlotte Dujardin is the best because she won't use abuse as a training tool. When Charlotte Dujardin and her horse perform they are a true team. I never cringe when I watch her ride. It seemed like the FEI was going to do something to ban all the cruel crap, but they suddenly backed off. 🤝 💰

You can watch and film the warm up and you find Videos on KZfaq, dressage hub for example. And remember, Dujardin was eliminated because of bloodrule with wonderful St. Monts Freestyle. She always was not happy in her mouth and the owner took her away from Dujardin. Now she is ridden by Cathrine Dufour with soft and gentle hands and nose in front of the vertical. Looking forward to see them competing.

agree !

He's 17 already! Quite a long useful life.

Not a fan of hers either!!

omw that is exactly what i was thinking the entire time but i was very green novice in dressage riding decades ago in my youth so i thought that in this case i just wasn't with the times but glad you and others are and pointed out what i immediately noticed. I have seen by far WAY past better dressage riders than her. She bounces all over the place and puts way too much effort in her riding that it can clearly be seen where it should not be seen much at all since dressage was originally invented for mounted combat in battles where the horse's movements were to be super smooth so the rider could focus on archery or wielding a hand held weapon accurately while hands free from the horse's reins. she was just too hands on and rough all over and what the heck were the judges talking about with the artistic style? the horse was half average and most horses are often in rhythm with the routine dancing music. i just don't get it with the judges and crowd.

Rough hands. Just brutal jerky movements right from the start before she even entered the ring. It must have been painful but the horse just tilts its head. If this was done by one of pupils in old days, they would have to dismount at once as a punishment.

The horse is graceful and appears to be a saint.

I don’t get it. She rode like a sack of potatoes. If I hadn’t heard of her before, I would have though she was just learning to ride.

The british commentator was very enthusiastic and he does a good job.

@@elkefaber8873 one can be enthusiastic and still give criticism when criticism is appropriate

@@4legs4paws55 but he did not. Why should he be critical? He seemed very honest in all his comments. I also love Natasha Baker and her way of commenting.

@@elkefaber8873 he listed her accomplishments and praised her as one of the most accomplished ridders - without mentioning a bit that she used very cruel and barbaric training methods for decades ... and I am not calling for a cancelation - but we should acknowledge that her accomplishments are tainted...

@@4legs4paws55 maybe that will happen to Andreas Helgstrand and his way of training horses after TV debunking. Or to those riders who abuse their horses in the warming up.

Dressage began in the military for war manoeuvres. It’s always been cruel and way too much pressure for horses. People can’t see past the money and “beauty” of it. Sad.

YES

Unfortunately, these aren't allegations. She has been known to be one of the first riders to popularize Rollkur. There are many, many videos of her warming up using that method.

there is PLENTY of proof against riders like Werth, Kittel, Helgstrand. But the FEI cares about money not horses, so they continue to be top level riders.

Well I'm sure that you are both correct however I was called cruel when I had my appendixbred quarterhorse and while longing him used a carriage whip to encourage him while never touching him with it I do so wish that people respected horses as they should however now they are killing them in mass quantity in the west American lands it makes me sick that if not for the horses there would not be a country but that is the sickness of humanity in its failure

@@susanmayes1651 Cool. Their allegations aren't "holding a lunging whip", it's putting their horses into physical and mental pain to get higher scores and train quicker. A .method that limits the horse's breathing, destroys the ligaments in the neck, causes inflammation of muscles, on top of making the horse stiff and hollow.

@@susanmayes1651 so what is your point?? Nobody here is screaming cruelty for a damn whip, and the fact that horses are being slaughtered elsewere does not justify their unfair tratment by upper level riders.