How NOT to Buy a Dump trailer! RED FLAGS & how Cheap Trailers CUT Quality pt 1/2 . 4 k video
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4 жыл бұрынWith so many options & different prices Buying a Dump Trailer can be confusing. We look at 3 different hoist systems, scissor, Dual & telescopic plus compare quality and show how Cheap trailer manufacturers cut quality. This is a 2 part series.
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@Dev_Everything 2 жыл бұрын
This 17minute commercial could have been summarized in 30 seconds. "You get what you pay for", "Keep it under 26k pounds unless you have a class A"
@gmilla2825 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. I’m on to the next one ✌️
@IYar56 2 ай бұрын
I have a fast forward. If I don't want to get ajab I can skip it.
@RicardoVargas-dy9tf 12 күн бұрын
Great. Awesome comment. Saved myself a little of time
@Kevin-lm9ex 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like KZfaq has taught me so much more than school ever did. I am basically the you tune good will hunting
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Kevin, glad to have you here !
@williammcknight5419 3 жыл бұрын
I feel exact same. Literally can learn anything
@chucksmith9772 3 жыл бұрын
You tune......nice!
@freddysoriano6058 3 жыл бұрын
it’s cause it has
@jakei5033 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously you can fix your truck, cook a gourmet meal, start an online business, or do your homework, its seriously as good as if gets. This makes me think how did they survive before google maps and KZfaq 😂😂😂💯
@aj12271 4 жыл бұрын
Stan... love the videos for the most part. Have to say though, the first 5 mins of this video is you saying same thing over & over in your intro. Just cut the BS & get to the meat of the video.
@EuroYardService 4 жыл бұрын
This is called a teaser 😜
@JohnR9965 4 жыл бұрын
aj12271 all of us are not slow comprehenders. 🤣🤣
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, it helps !
@mikefederico9875 4 жыл бұрын
andy why are you being a Penis ! Stan is a good guy, i guess you are a know it all ! lol Merry Christmas
@larrylucas5731 3 жыл бұрын
I know that's right!!! (I was thinking the same thing)
@dougtanner8749 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Stanley! Very helpful for guys in our industry that don’t want the hassle of DOT. I’m a long time welder fabricator and how things are built, materials used and skilled welding mean everything. It will cost you a fortune to fix broken trailers from poor quality.
@maverickgood5204 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to hear about the three trailers he had there and how much they cost and the differences.
@trueindeed1569 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@buelowexcavating 2 жыл бұрын
Good video as usual. The Minnesota DOT buys scissor hoists for their plow trucks so they can have double acting cylinders for their rookie drivers. When they lift the box too high, all the salt slides to the rear, then they can bring the box down.
@realworldcarpentryremodeli5868 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 3 minutes in and all ive heard so far is what you’re going to talk about. When do you get to it . Ughh you just said you weren’t going to waste anymore time and you’re still talking about nothing!!!!!!
@jamest3597 4 жыл бұрын
15 min in and still saying it
@loulehnhoff2637 3 жыл бұрын
Just getting started into small excavating jobs was looking into dumps I had no idea about the legal ins and outs of dot. Very helpful video thanks
@oby-1607 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stanley. I have been on the fence for a while in choosing a dump trailer to tow behind my pickup. I already have a Kenworth dump truck with a 16 yard box but need something for the lighter stuff I have to haul. Your info is being priceless to me as there is so much out there that make all kinds of insane claims but don't deliver.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
No problem, I am happy to have helped you out!
@simply_andreastewart 2 жыл бұрын
I convinced my husband we need a *hot pink* dump trailer since he wants a dump trailer… so now he’s requiring me to do research to make the decision on which ones buy. I coincidentally found this video as my very first review video and he immediately told me to pause it and then confirmed why XYZ (that you had just stated) was correct… long story short I am really glad I found this video. Now on to the next one 😅
@darwincruz3878 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you!! I want to open my own business first time ,I am exited but I know it won't be simple so I am educating myself, thanks God Bless dude!!
@richardzacholl2152 4 жыл бұрын
My experience is tube style frames are prone to rotting from the inside out. In upstate NY , the salt kills them. Also, with the temperature changes we experience, the insides of the tubes can condensate and lead to rot. I prefer an I beam or channel frame.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Richard and thanks for viewing
@scrapmanindustries 4 жыл бұрын
spraying the frame with diesel fuel or used motor oil helps a lot with rust.
@TRX450RVlogger 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Zacholl i farted once
@kubotaman3440 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing happens here in Maine between the liquid calcium in the salt
@MichaelDillin 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point.
@patrickmalley2280 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Mid-Sota 15,400lb tandem dump. Very pleased with the build quality - especially the paint. I don't like where they placed their ramps as the mounts get in the way when dumping. Otherwise I've been pretty happy with it! Thanks for the great vids!
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
No problem Patrick, thanks for being here!
@machaf 3 жыл бұрын
Might want to mention that all those weight ratings for DOT apply to commercial operations (operations for hire), not personal. And each state has its own rules as well.
@Gravelbomber 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to say. Not sure about other states, but in Illinois, you have to have a CDL for anything over 16,001 lbs gvw, but can be exempted from the medical certification for personal use, as long as it's not being used commercially.
@geoffwhittier6866 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The statements made in the video DO NOT specify this so it's misleading. If it's for personal use and you aren't a business? Don't worry unless you exceed 26,000 lbs
@liamslegolab5339 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the video like none of this is true for private use… lol
@67_PowerStroke Жыл бұрын
@@geoffwhittier6866 95% of people buying these dump trailers are for business use.
@fozzybear9114 9 ай бұрын
@@67_PowerStrokewrong
@wendymangas5973 4 жыл бұрын
I have a suretrac trailer and I just love it, it's a 14 ft. land scape that haul fire wood, mulch and golf carts.
@moparposi25 4 жыл бұрын
Having worked at a trailer shop i would never trust sure trac ive seen too many broken frames and broken gooseneck arches and can verify the trailers were under maximum weight load
@flash1259 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Big Tex gooseneck dump trailers? I've got the 14' 14 GX. I've only used it a few times. After pulling RV's and gooseneck trailers over half the U.S. I prefer to stick with gooseneck for my dump trailer. I pull it with a 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel crew cab 4x4 so I'm not worried about the tow vehicle. I also have class A license even though I don't need it. It's a left over from when I did need it.
@motorsports1116 4 жыл бұрын
I have looked over sure-trac and they was for the most part the bottom of the barrel for many years. I'm hoping they improved but they where the standard to junk
@SM-fy7ys 4 жыл бұрын
Have a sure track tilt bed for 4 yeas now every thing still works and looks brand new
@seagullsbtn 2 жыл бұрын
This video’s lessons apply across so many types of trailers including car haulers….
@charlesc1122 4 жыл бұрын
Where I live as long as you are using a pickup truck & trailer or even a semi & trailer in direct use for farming your own crops you do not need a class a or a physical to drive them.
@waynemizer4912 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There is much misinformation and missing information in this video.
@milesbunn8004 2 жыл бұрын
In NC you only need a class A license if over 26k GVWR, if you are not in commerce (for hire/CDL). Class A drivers license only requires you to take the safety portion of a CDL test. Other than that it's the same license as a class C. If the towing vehicle is licensed for farm use you are also exempt.
@michaeldankert1962 5 ай бұрын
In Michigan we have to go get a (F) endorsement on our license, then we can drive/haul anything in farming operations, as well as can your family/farm employees. The F endorsement requires a 60 question written exam with no driving test. Just FYI, the Secretary of State didn't even know the type F endorsement even existed until she looked it up. Lol
@burtonkidd 4 жыл бұрын
My dual piston dump didn't break a sweat lifting and dumping 8k lbs of block/stone my buddies single piston front dump struggled like no tomorrow trying to dump the same size load 🤔 that threw me off when he said the dual piston trailers would have more trouble dumping.
@kendrickbettis3328 4 жыл бұрын
Right on time brother! I’m looking to buy my first dump trailer this week and I was wondering what to look for. Thanks for the info!!
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Happy to help, good luck man 👍
@207Jeff 4 жыл бұрын
Suretrac makes an ok trailer. I've been dragging several around for 3 yrs now in Maine. The biggest issues I've found is that the prep and paint don't hold up in the rust belt. 3 yr old trailer and it's a rolling heap of rust. Would love to see you do a video on N &N galvanized trailers. Great actual info in the video though. Well done as always.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, appreciate it!
@nullrout556 4 жыл бұрын
Does any paint hold up in the North-East though? Edit: I do not miss Michigan. I was changing the oil on my 2013 Ford Focus last weekend and appreciated that the only thing that had rust was a light surface coat on the CV axles. If it were Michigan I might be able so see daylight through the body.
@207Jeff 4 жыл бұрын
@@nullrout556 it helps of the trailer is primed. Maine is a tough environment, but for the $ how does a trailer not get primed? I won't even get into the crappy tack welds that hold the fenders on. 6 months after the purchase both trailers had the fenders re welded with gussets. This is still a great video, for the info, but I'm not Impressed with these trailers.
@kubotajordan9502 4 жыл бұрын
great video stan! The cylinder in the front of the trailer is a no brainer down here in N Florida were we wear short sleeve pants in the winter lol I've haven't seen any with it . But may be there is some around I haven't worked in 9 months do to health issue.You always lay out all the good intel on your vids thank you for your due diligence in makings your videos!!! just be cause its shiny and new doesn't mean its going to be functional for your application.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kubota Jordan, I appreciate that!!
@Spencertrailers 4 жыл бұрын
Get you a Diamond C.
@caitlyndicus7820 3 жыл бұрын
i have a f350 dually and called dot to confirm this-if you are not making money,and track loader and trailer are for personal use only no cdl required and 26001 over does not apply to me.i got this from dot but better not have anything showing for hire like checks(my truck 13000,track loader tl140 takeuchi 9800 they said buy what ever you want but you better just be for personal use only.i live in mid missouri
@michaelmoten5916 3 жыл бұрын
DOT applies to "Interstate Commerce", this doesn't necessarily apply to a homeowner. Most trailer manufacturers will sell you a heavier duty trailer, example 8,000 pound axles, and will de-rate them to keep you below the 26,000 pound weight limit.
@jasongrinnell1986 8 ай бұрын
DOT will pull you over just the same.
@Nutiler 4 жыл бұрын
You literally make videos for whatever I’m working with- I just rented a dump trailer and was looking to buy one and I just saw you upload this 😀
@HiddenValleyHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
HA ME TOO! Just scored one on CL...
@rgivens11466 Жыл бұрын
Stan you are the man have watched you from almost the beginning. We are looking to get a dump trailer. Big Tex seems to be pretty heavy duty here in middle Tennessee. We do a lot of drainage problems around houses and we end up digging out a bunch of shrubs and bushes to haul of and sometimes excess top soil. We also usually dig down a few feet from the top of their basement and paint the block with a tar based sealer and add heavy plastic and tie in gutter drains and a second higher up French drain. So we need to haul gravel and off huge bushes, the tall wall trailers are good for that but I'm not sure about topsoil and limestone. We haul with a 08 dodge 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins and 6 speed manual.
@RockhillfarmYT 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just picked up my first dump trailer for making a little side money
@justinglock20 4 жыл бұрын
Two words. Agricultural exemption.
@S_man89 3 жыл бұрын
Class B is the actual cdl requirement. If your hauling with an endorsement for more than 60,000+ lbs then you need a class A.
@codyg7936 3 жыл бұрын
@@S_man89 that is incorrect, as the law reads, any trailer with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs or more requires a Class A CDL. Class B is for single Vehicles Gvwr over 26,001 lbs IE: Dumptruck, Box Truck, think tandem axle trucks and you tow a trailer up to 10,000 lbs or less gvwr, Class C is for transporting people or materials commercially in a vehicle with a gvwr of 26,000 lbs or less and towing a trailer with a gvwr 10,000 lbs or less. A lot of people don’t know the truth and there are a lot of misconceptions out there.
@S_man89 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyg7936 yep I drive truck for a living. But it’s all the under 26,001 class. And I’m grandfathered in for my age. Not that I’m old.
@zentheshaman 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. By the summer 2020 this channel will be at almost 700,000 Good stuff!
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for being here !
@grassmankzoo1216 4 жыл бұрын
The dump angle of it is very important too
@Cbow406 3 жыл бұрын
Yep if that single ram one doesn't going any higher it seems about useless
@imbrandon16 Ай бұрын
@@Cbow406shit goes almost straight up and down they go really high, it has multiple tubes in tubes lol
@thomassoltis5862 4 жыл бұрын
Great video brother keep up the awesome work god bless you and your family
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas, thanks, you too!
@Ramdodge582 4 жыл бұрын
front tele cylinders are in the way of my tractor bucket, keep it below the bed rails!!!
@rperkins5459 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid , Thank you so much. Things I never thought about.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Of course! Thanks for being here Rick 👍
@timothyarnick3826 4 жыл бұрын
I love my open sure trac 16’ and was thinking of a dump next year. Gonna have to check Pennsylvania law as I don’t want to jump hoops and get a CDL
@justinvoisine8750 4 жыл бұрын
Sure Trac dump trailers are awesome, dont care what anyone says. Tortured mine wayyyyyy overloaded on terrain you couldnt pass a pickup on for an entire summer. I had it hooked to a tractor and had very hard time pulling it and dragging it through places it shouldnt of been. Performs flawlessly and looks new after several maine winters and thousands of dump cycles.
@10UPn2DOWN 3 жыл бұрын
Good video especially for you mid western farm fly over states with Motor vehicle enforcement around every grain elevator :)
@jollsnj 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, those DOT regs apply to anyone “engaged in commerce.”
@makingtechsense126 3 жыл бұрын
I watched a different trailer buyers guide the other day and the person mentioned having beefier axles but having the manufacturer de-rate the trailer so that it was under-weight but built beefier for longevity.
@swappedoutZ71 Жыл бұрын
That's the best way to build things. Always good to overbuild a little bit.
@joshlopez1527 3 жыл бұрын
Great Content! Hilarious how every time Dirt Monkey cautioned about people not buying too much trailer the tone in the salesmen was deflated. "Maaaan, There Goes My Upsell😒..." 🙊🙊🙊
@Ramcat_Vlogs 2 жыл бұрын
I have a HVAC company I was always under the impression that as long as it’s for “personal use” you didn’t need DOT numbers on a truck to tow a dump or any heavier duty trailer for that matter. I’m buying for for personal use and won’t ever be hooking my company trucks to it because then I heard something about needing a CDL to tow ANY trailer with a truck with DOT numbers I’m from NY btw
@stevesmith8107 4 жыл бұрын
Good information Stanley. Keep up great videos. Also if I have cdl an a us dot # Can I get extra option tool trays. ? And is sure Trac going to offer a telescope model on tandem axle model ?
@FishFind3000 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy a bigger better trailer and have the manufacture under rate it so your at the legal limit.
@JT-qf4it 3 жыл бұрын
DOT just has to weight it. Doesn't work
@justanbaker8937 2 жыл бұрын
@@JT-qf4it not true
@IYar56 2 ай бұрын
Do you trust the government?
@juancarlosmartinez-rb4pd Жыл бұрын
Like every salesman, they believe that their product is the best 😂😂
@nzer57 2 жыл бұрын
Our small 3000-5000kg payload delivery trucks (NZ) have scissor lift mechanisms. We've never had a problem with them. Like anything it comes down to engineering. An advantage with this type of lift system is your max tilt angle tends to be much greater than front lift systems. That can be useful with alloy decks and sticky loads that don't want to slide.
@HiddenValleyHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH I'm so glad you put this out!!! I was in the market for a dump trailer and see em advertised all over for 5gs... then I found an old Tex used, needs new tires and paint but all.functional for 3900... I bought it
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for viewing !
@JACK-ez5me 4 жыл бұрын
If you're going to talk about legally towing trailers on the road then you should do a separate video and interview a state trooper. My biggest complaints about going into these trailer dealers is that the sales guys have little to no knowledge about DOT laws, they care mainly about making a quick sale and not selling you the right trailer for you.
@DC9Douglas 4 жыл бұрын
@TrooperHoover
@maxclement1502 4 жыл бұрын
Tractor Time with Tim, Has a great video about all of this stuff with a trooper. Under truck and trailer tuesdays
@maxclement1502 4 жыл бұрын
@@DC9Douglas TTWT hahah
@MichaelDillin 4 жыл бұрын
Ask 100 state troopers the same list of 10 questions and ur liable to get 100 different interpretations based on other factors that change the answer to each question. I had a "tough guy" try to bully me in the way station, I had a letter from the attorney for my company and 4 pages of dot exclusion for our industry. The "tough guy" read some of it and stopped and wanted to fine me. It wasn't until I was "forced" (otherwise I would have to accept his ticket) to read 10 paragraphs later where the document addressed his assertion. It was hard for me cause I'm barley literate when it comes to reading. We argued some more. I told him to read the whole thing so he could get more context. His supervisor came back from lunch 45 minutes later and said oh yeah he had heard about the exemption and to let me go. That's the ONLY reason I did not get written up for a violation. Interpretation is never ending art of legal ez
@clutchcitytrucker7064 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Dillin 👍🏼
@ehexzs10 4 жыл бұрын
Been very happy with my 14k load trail dump trailer. Not had one issue. Its a scissors lift never struggled to lift. And there have been a couple times i was overloaded at the quarry.
@grwolf272 4 жыл бұрын
My 14’ load trail easily handles a 10,000# dump load. Plenty of zirk fittings to feed too. Dual hydros are a disaster waiting to happen.
@ResidentialDirtWork 4 жыл бұрын
Im seeing more and more of the Load Trail trailers here in Alabama
@Rooftopmatty 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about if you are saying a sure trac is a good trailer, they are one of the worst and cheapest built trailers on the market, I’d never purchase one of them ever
@jon63ill1 4 жыл бұрын
I use a straight truck with scissor lift and it’s fast compared to my other truck with front cylinder lift.
@isaacdunson2989 Жыл бұрын
I like how he’s talking to a trailer sails guy 😂 very reliable information XD
@anthonycaligiuri37 4 жыл бұрын
Stan you do a great job brotha very informative don’t listen to these haters love the videos , Anthonys Landscaping And Snowplowing
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you Anthony!!
@bretranalli4012 4 жыл бұрын
I use BRI -Mar dump trailers. Mine has over 400,000 miles on it. Best there is !!!!
@farmboymechanicandracing510 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to see sure-trac, have been through their first trailer plant in Markle IN, and they are an awesome place, and my high school every few years builds a sure-trac trailer in there welding class.
@BigDaddysPlati 22 күн бұрын
I just got my 16x7 14k suretrac front ram and I love it!
@joelstanhope7231 4 жыл бұрын
It would a lot better if you stop asking the questions and interrupt when the rep trys to answer . I have a class A and you are confused about many things. People should talk to dealer without the interruptions
@nocoolname32 4 жыл бұрын
rules change state by state, but are more in line when you start crossing state lines. im sure most of us have heard the craziness that CA has implemented in their CDLs for private citizens. here in ND, (without crossing state lines) i can drive a truck up to 26K and pull a trailer up to 10K and not need a CDL. But our neighboring state of MN has different rules.
@charlesbourgeois9029 4 жыл бұрын
Same in CT 26,001gvw on truck requires class b 25,900 truck can pull 9,900 trailer with no cdl however 9,900 truck can pull 16,900 trailer. We went with b wise 15400 gvw trailers for some applications however I think sure trac and pj and maybe cam are better idk it's all very confusing and everyone has an opinion just like we all have a you know what! -Charles Bourgeois Down to Earth Landscaping LLC Lebanon, CT
@hphillips7425 3 жыл бұрын
Joel Stanhope good point I agree. I don’t watch much of his videos after he demo a skag zero turn mower and was banned by the skag representative because he was running the mower hard in reverse then forward to pop the front wheels off the ground
@tird108 2 жыл бұрын
Damn he did that
@s.c.finestlandscaper5469 4 жыл бұрын
Stan another great video keep it up brother..
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@MrCrusher5000 4 жыл бұрын
I have recently spoken with a compiance officer and he said that if the combined gvwr of the truck and trailer excedes 26,001lbs you need a cdl. I hold a class a witch allows me to drive anything up to 80k. I can pull a fifth wheel, goose neck, or bumper pull as long as the truck is rated for the weight i am pulling as well as the trailer. The cdl depends on the combination of the truck and trailer as well. If you excede the class c rating then you need to get a class b licence if you are only planning to use bumper pull or pintle ring trailers. If you want to pull goose neck or fifth wheel you have to have a class a licence as it goes by weight and the combination of truck and trailer. If you dont plan to pull anything over 26001lbs then you dont need a cdl, dot numbers, fmcsa sticker, or an ifta sticker. After your truck tag excedes 26001lbs youare subject to all fmcsa/dot rules and regulations.
@larrylucas5731 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff my brother. To the point with no fluff. Hell, you should have done the video!
@nickr8829 2 жыл бұрын
That's completely wrong, the type of trailer has nothing to do with the CDL class, only the weight. A vehicle over 26,000lbs GVWR towing a trailer under 10,000lbs GVWR is what a class B CDL covers. A class A CDL doesn't cover "up to 80,000lbs," it covers ANY vehicle over 26,000lbs GCWR towing a trailer over 10,000lbs GVWR.
@michaeldankert1962 5 ай бұрын
That's how I understand it. Nobody ever goes into detail when they describe the 10,001 lb rule. The DOT says if you have a GCWR of 26001 (AND) "KEY WORD HERE" Trailer load exceeding 10,001lb, then a CDL is required. It doesn't say (OR) a trailer load exceeding 10,001lb. So if you are below GCWR of 26,001lb, but are pulling over 10,001lb, you are still ok?
@mattsmith9270 5 ай бұрын
@@michaeldankert1962 From what I understand if the combo is under 26,001 the weight of the trailer doesn't matter, and you don't need a cdl. if the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is under 10,001 that requires a B cdl. If the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is over 10,001 that requires a class A cdl. Also each state has its own rules.
@kubotaman3440 4 жыл бұрын
Box tubing tends to rust faster from the inside out
@TopNotchPropertyServiceLLC 8 ай бұрын
Great content! Thanks for sharing. I did not know any of this info.
@chrisegan9670 4 жыл бұрын
I think there are 2 things that are irritating about a dump trailer. 1) the finish no matter what brand 2) that legally with the 7k axles putting a good size skid loader or mini in there and your over. I do like that you take the time to put the video out there to provide info....
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, I appreciate the feedback!
@ezequielortega7238 4 жыл бұрын
Every trailer I've seen has the charger Large and small here in West.
@jkclawncareandlandscape5880 4 жыл бұрын
This is literally the best I mean best Video I can watch at this time . I’ve been looking at a bunch so far and I’m looking to buy in the next two weeks so I’m glad I saw this first .thank god for Stan 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@coltsmiff1132 3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy 1 and if so which one?
@codyg7936 3 жыл бұрын
Except that if you tow ANY trailer with a 10,001 lb gvwr or more you need a Class A CDL this video is full of DOT misinformation
@jkclawncareandlandscape5880 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyg7936 every state is different though ny is combined 26k for class a
@codyg7936 3 жыл бұрын
@@jkclawncareandlandscape5880 Federally, if you’re making money in any way by hauling anything IE COMMERCIAL, and your have a trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 lbs or more, you are required by federal law to have a Class A CDL regardless of what you’re towing it with. Class A CDL covers any combination vehicle weight ratings provided you don’t have the restrictions on it for air brakes and manual...ect. Class B CDL is for a single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 lbs or more, think tandem axle trucks, dumptrucks, large flatbeds, ect. But you CANNOT legally tow a trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 lbs or more. Class C is for commercially transporting people or goods with a vehicle rated at 26,000 lbs or less and you still CANNOT legally tow a trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 lbs or more. That is the federal law. Now, some states have Class A, B, C regular driver licenses which may cover a trailer with a GVWR over 10,001 lbs, except it DOES NOT cover commercial operation of the vehicle. It would be for towing your giant 16k gvwr 5th camper for recreation which if you’re in a state that doesn’t offer those licenses like I am, your are required by law to have a Class A CDL to tow it since its over the 10,001 lb cutoff.
@jkclawncareandlandscape5880 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyg7936 yea
@deereman2607 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a CAM Superline dump trailer a few months ago. The owner who owns CAM also owns SURE-TRAC. I got feedback from him through the dealer owner I bought from, and he told me a CAM is a lot nicer of a trailer, for very similar money.
@Durkis0077 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased my 3rd Cam Dumper.. great trailers !!
@mikeholubek4419 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job Up here in upstate NY yellow vans have been HOT on the Landscapers, don't know what the violations Are but some have had the "Out of Service" sticker stuck on their window, 1 was dually squatted heavy with a tandum enclosed that also had the tires buried into fenders, talk about obvious excess weight
@shawnyblaze 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow this video was full of info. I’m in the market for a trailer and I now know I need the trailer with the middle finger sticking up.
@coaltobaccoandwildhorses1160 3 жыл бұрын
Stan "Dr. of Dump Trailer" Genadek. Great info Stan, thank you.
@patrickkeefe3679 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan, very informative.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Patrick!
@Ticolandscaping 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll need the “easy “ maintenance on that front cylinder. Specially when you keep hitting it with logs, brush and concrete when loading.
@muddybadgers5205 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you loading it from the front?
@Ticolandscaping 4 жыл бұрын
K Gappa logs shift when loading. They also longer than the grapple. When loading from the side it’s possible to hit the ram.
@93rwolf Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a skill issue.
@ahbrealtyandpropertymanage2039 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a sure trac 6x12 10k the quality is so much better than the other brands I looked at .
@Dan-oz4qb 4 жыл бұрын
This is like a six month date for a hand job. Could have finished in five minutes if they just got to it.
@josephfilben1 4 жыл бұрын
Fmcsa says you only need dot if youre crossing state lines, so even if your trailer is 13k lbs as long as your gcvw is 26,000 or less youre under no extra restrictions unless you cross state lines for interstate commerce, also trailer manufactures will derate the gvw of a trailer so it doesnt require a cdl
@jpsmith9452 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@andytaylor2321 3 жыл бұрын
Nice trailers, like the toolbox and quick charge idea! What brand are they
@wcmwfab935 4 жыл бұрын
Being a welder, those were not welds. That was a rolling hazzard
@ozarkprepper1718 Жыл бұрын
DOT needs dismantled.
@wabbentertainment6602 4 жыл бұрын
I think the telascopic is stronger but it is totally more subject to twist and break left or right. It has to be even, not on a hill to be viable
@bxb590 2 жыл бұрын
Once again common sense and physics come back to haunt us?
@jonnyg9330 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this video I'm about to buy one I needed this
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Hope it help you out, thanks Jonny!!
@groofromtheup5719 4 жыл бұрын
Pushing the 26k barrier need not be the hassle you are making it out to be. 1) a VAST majority, if not all, of 3/4 tons can haul a 16k trailer without breaking the 26k barrier. Some 1 tons can as well. 2) if buying new, have it down-rated. If you have a 10,100 GVWR truck, instead of limiting your self to a 14 trailer, get a 16k trailer and have it down-rated from the manufacturer if buying new. That will give you the heavier duty axle, tires and frame without breaking the 26k barrier. Just don't haul over the rated value on the road. I had my trailer manufacturer rate my enclosed 10k trailer to 9,990 lbs on the manufacturer's tag, to keep it under 10k. In retrospect, I am not sure what I gained other than skipping the reflective tape on the side, but all I lost was 10lbs of legal payload and a minute on the phone. On the other hand, if like the example above, you are only pushing the CDL-A barrier by 100 lbs, you could have a whole lot more of an impact. Asking the mfg to put a lower number on the paperwork and ID plate is an easy way around it.
@jasongrinnell1986 8 ай бұрын
If I had a 10,100 GVWR truck I would get a 15,900 GVWR trailer to have a GCVWR of 26,000. This is legal all day long unless you are registered in Comufornia.
@Observer82AB 3 жыл бұрын
One can always sort through the comments to get to the actual facts. Much knowledge and experience here. The OP picks the topic but we all have opinions.
@liers99 3 жыл бұрын
In TN Dot number is only required if you are crossing state lines (interstate commerce). If you operate within a state (intrastate commerce) a Dot number is not required. Check with your state to see what your laws are.
@KarasCyborg 4 жыл бұрын
Gooseneck Hooklift Trailer Derated to 10k with Super Singles.
@AJsRemovalServices 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this info.
@joe4hirelawncare497 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Stanley, are you going to be allowed back in the Scagg both at the GIE this year???? How's the Exmark Staris working out for you?
@DS-TRUCKS 4 жыл бұрын
Very very helpful!
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375 4 жыл бұрын
we produce the 7 tons-inverted telescopic cylinders 12 tons-inverted telescopic cylinders
@SithLordmatthew 4 жыл бұрын
When I bought my dump trailer the 10k limit was very important my Rams are 16000 gvw 4500s so the cam superline was rated for 11,950 but when we ordered ours we had it factory derated to 9990 gave us the trailer we wanted and avoided CDL
@daddyboyz2 3 жыл бұрын
So does it have to be 10000 with the truck, or just trailer to avoid dot guidelines
@SithLordmatthew 3 жыл бұрын
@@daddyboyz2 Any trailer over 10k requires a CDL. The Dot is something else some states its any combined truck and trailer over 10k. In CT is anything over 18k so we required to have Dot not a CDL. My truck at 16k is exempt from DOT unless its towing something over 2k then it is over 18k.
@davidrehaluk8620 3 жыл бұрын
We've had 2 felling trailers they handle a load we scaled 17000 lbs in cement one load
@robertkywildcats9266 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you are going to video the GIE in Louisville KY this week?
@tractorboy31 4 жыл бұрын
Ive heard of trk and trls having derated gvwr. You wanna give your insight on that. I personally own a f350 and pull a 9 ton equipment trl so i have 11k on trk and 18k on trl. I max out at 22k ruffly. And yes for anyone person trk and trl. Its what i haul my antique tractor around on. I go to tractor shows and work around church and do a couple demo derbies doing wreck removal
@tomblizzard3721 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative thanks
@hikehunter9572 4 жыл бұрын
I am looking to buy a 5x8 dump trailer with 7000lbs axle/spindles . I would like it to be dual axle as to haul a mini trackhoe . It needs to be less than $4100. I think that 90% of the trailer dealers are crooks that try to rip people off on a daily basis. If I had the time I would build my own. Please call out the bad players. Make life a living hell for the crooks. thanks for the video. one of the best ones you have done in a good while.
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, happy that you liked it!
@ashforkdan 3 жыл бұрын
The front single ram can only be lifted on level ground or it WILL BREAK.
@galehess6676 3 жыл бұрын
or backing straight downhill with no twist side to side, unlikely to find a spot level side to side and only sloping away, but could work, so there is no sideways twist in the trailer frame, and the ram
@SkratchingCatRecords 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@bigj9866 3 жыл бұрын
Then how come the majority of all dump trucks run the single front ram? I haven’t seen too many flat and level construction sites where these are being used without breaking the ram. I have seen trucks tip over from uneven ground, but never a broken ram.
@thomas25082 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigj9866 I seen it at a james Hardie siite
@158102262 4 жыл бұрын
Been having my dump trailer for 2 years and love my scissor hoist. But I'm curious as to if the telescopic lift has gravity or power down option. My trailer has been stuck in the air one too many times. Thankfully I have gravity down
@Customsouthernarms 3 жыл бұрын
It is gravity down.
@blakejulian6878 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest fear is the toolbox location on the front ram trailer. Reach for the shovel and the ram fails, there goes your arm.
@benkenobi671 2 жыл бұрын
you would think they would be required to have some sort of safety device on the trailer for that purpose.
@avacadovich 10 ай бұрын
Just be certain to take the remote out of your pocket before you lean over and mistakenly mash the "Down" button.
@jasonbuckley4384 3 ай бұрын
I've seen a safety device just for this scenario on Ironbull dump trailers. It's located beneath the trailer bed near the front box.
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 4 жыл бұрын
the front lift trailer is the most solid option, but it doesn't look like it would have the same lift height as the other two options ( which is why i would think they were more popular before ).
@SureTracTrailersPage 4 жыл бұрын
all three hoists have a very comparable dump angle. The angle will also depend on the size of trailer, but all will average about 45 degrees, with a variance of maybe 2-3 degrees (give or take).
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 4 жыл бұрын
@@SureTracTrailersPage 👍🏽👍🏻good to know.
@mrwilson4909 4 жыл бұрын
in theory can you load more than axles/suspension and the telescope still lift?
@victorgillotti2945 4 жыл бұрын
PJ for the homeowner construction. I have a class a CDL 37 years dump trailer experience hazmat tanker and Twic card either east trailers Or Stargate out of Canada because I want stability to while dumping. Mac breakaway system is faulty and very prone to tipping over.
@jamesmerkel9442 Жыл бұрын
Future of trailing is combining wreaker & tilt when poss 1 prt of dump trailer & then just hving 3 cylinders all working together to dump like I require to fly for new 18' & up passenger planes Always trying to do better then current 1 or 2 prop smack or tired word.
@jasonenterline8285 4 жыл бұрын
I WISH you made this video a year ago.. I bought a 6x12 Forest River dump trailer for $4250 and I HATE IT!! I've already broke the threads off the hydraulic ram, the fenders fall 1" on the outer side of the tread (cuts tires if loaded to full) it won't lift nearly what it's rated to lift, ramps hang on the sides of the trailer.. I HATE IT.. but I gotta do what I gotta do..
@jasonenterline8285 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh not to mention the knuckle where the ram is mounted under the deck, sheared off which broke the threads on the ram.. Stanley if you want pictures get at me in IG @EliteStoneWorx
@bgdavidcryptonite4158 4 жыл бұрын
ive noticed we have various trailers that are suppot to trickle charge but the pin for it on the trucks from factory isn't constant on... reverse wire on the trucks we have...so check plug on trailer layout and the truck
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