Star Megastar: Spain's Massive 10mm Autopistol

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In the late 1980s, the Spanish gunmaker Star decided to join the new hot trend of 10mm semiauto pistols. The cartridge was getting a lot of press, and Star saw this as an opportunity too ride the wave and also the get a pistol on the market that would attract IPSC competitors. Unlike some companies adapting existing .45ACP designs to 10mm, Star decided to start from scratch to build a pistol that was massive and durable; able to handle the power of the cartridge without any worries.
Star engineer Eduardo Zamacola (who had previously designed the M38/30/31 series for Star) had the first prototypes ready in 1990, in both 10mm Auto and .45 ACP. The design took cues from the Petter designs of France and SIG, with full-length internal slide rails and a removable modular fire control system. It offer 12 round capacity in .45 and 14 rounds in 10mm.
The pistol was quite massive and heavy (1.4kg / 3.1 lb), and failed to sell well from the start. The 10mm craze and flared out rather quickly - it remains a niche cartridge to this day, despite periodic releases of new 10mm pistols (the SIG 320 in 10mm being the most recent). What really killed the Megastar, though, was the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban in the US. This prohibited new magazines holding more than 10 rounds, and the whole point of the bulk of the Megastar was to allow larger double-stack magazines. With those no longer available, there was really not much reason to get a Megastar instead of something like a 1911. In total, just 978 were made in 10mm and 5,424 in .45ACP, with production ending in 1995.
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@BWEFirearms Жыл бұрын

I broke a few of the Megastars. I worked at interarms in the 90's and I was in charge of testing and breaking any new gun Interarms was going to import. I cracked the slide on the first few test guns we got in. Star then changed the steel and heat treating of the slides and fixed that problem. The final version I put 2500 rounds as fast as I could shoot through 2 guns with very few malfunctions.

@mrkeogh Жыл бұрын

Incorrect heat treatment is more common than people realise. It's a tricky thing to get right and you'll only find out when parts start breaking/galling/peening/distorting for consumers putting rounds through the guns (assuming Star's hardness testing didn't indicate anything unusual). Very surprised they'd fail out of the box, though 😬 Didn't Beretta change the treatment they used for the M92 series after SEALS broke a few by shooting hot 9mm all the time?

@collinbrown5751 Жыл бұрын

@@mrkeogh early 92fs pistols were famous for their crappy heat treat. As the story goes, a slide ended up shearing off a gun and taking out an American serviceman's eye. But i'm fairly sure that part is just a story as i can never really find anything official about it.

@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын

@@collinbrown5751 Early 92FS pistols suffered from a faulty batch of Winchester-made M882 Ball 9mm ammos that developed pressure in excess of proofloads. It was a wonder the pistols could endure several thousands rounds before breaking in those conditions (it's not clear if the same ammos had been used in the XM9 program tests, but it's a fact that only the Beretta 92 and the H&K P7 reached the 7000 rounds threshold with all three pistols tested for "service life" without cracking a frame or a slide). After Beretta technicians found the real cause of the damages (after the Picatinny Arsenal blamed the "Tellurium" in the steel alloy) Beretta sued the US Government for the delay, the bad press and the unnecessary modifications required to the pistols. The lawsuit was settled off-court with the Government paying to Beretta further 10 million $.

@collinbrown5751 Жыл бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 man that's a a good story. time to go back and find Ians videos on it lol

@zendell37 Жыл бұрын

I should thank you for a few of my toys.

@Hybris51129 Жыл бұрын

"Now witness the firepower of this fully loaded and operational Megastar!"

@apeshitcrazyman Жыл бұрын

You'll find it to be Quite Operational. . . . (Sinister laugh)

@HiroNguy Жыл бұрын

Just beware of the Rebels throwing *mud* into the ejection port!

@KageNoTora74 Жыл бұрын

"That blast came from the Megastar! That thing's operational!" "IT'S A GAT!!!"

@STB-jh7od Жыл бұрын

😃😃😀

@BeltFedSelfDefense 5 ай бұрын

ITS A TRAP! 🐙

@Kildaren Жыл бұрын

When a Superstar just isn't enough

@donshipman8441 Жыл бұрын

LOL

@toryumau6798 Жыл бұрын

... Gregory, what's that you got there? A GUN! NOoOoOooo~! >)X^D

@gooondie Жыл бұрын

Zzzzzzing

@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын

They should have called the next model the "Death Star"

@verrueckteriwan Жыл бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 9mm, the star; .45, the superstar; 10mm, the Megastar; .44 Magnum, The Ultrastar; .50 AE, The Death Star :D

@parrotraiser6541 Жыл бұрын

When you've exhausted all 12 rounds, you can beat your adversary to death with the piece.

@JackalRelated Жыл бұрын

This is the gun Waingro carries during the armored car robbery in HEAT (that he uses to kill one of the guards with)! Interesting gun to finally have a video for, as it seems like there's not a lot of information on it despite being in a Michael Mann flick.

@tylerwilliams6022 Жыл бұрын

Didn't he have two of them? One blued and one stainless?

@JackalRelated Жыл бұрын

@@tylerwilliams6022 Yeah. He carries the blued one and used it in the robbery and he has a nickel-plated (?) one when he's at the hotel room.

@roberttrester4030 Жыл бұрын

Yeah it looks like he did. People always talk trash about guns from Spain but STAR made some great guns! I use to own a STAR Firestar Plus. It looked very similar to this and had some of the same features except it was smaller, single action and 9mm. It was a great gun for the time and it never really jammed on me. Every once in a while it would fail to feed but a gentle tap on the slide fixed that. Sadly I gave it to a now ex girlfriend and I'm in no way getting it back. It wasn't really anything super special but it worked well and I'm a sucker for anything that does what it's supposed to do especially firearms!!! LOL!

@tylerwilliams6022 Жыл бұрын

@@roberttrester4030 Wish I would have got a Star Model B a couple years ago for under $300. I imagine they have increased dramatically in price. Just like all the other surplus guns I stupidly expected would be decently priced when I got back around to them.

@artmallory970 Жыл бұрын

A lot of good/unique guns in 'The Heat', cult movie...

@coreybenson3122 Жыл бұрын

As a 10mm reloader, I can confirm making 10mm rounds about as pissin hot as I can make them.

@Ass_of_Amalek Жыл бұрын

"absolutely atomic", as ian has said before

@MalleusSemperVictor Жыл бұрын

Ever chrono'd your reloads? We talking approaching 1500 FPS?

@onkelmicke9670 Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was great fun in the 90's

@coreybenson3122 Жыл бұрын

@@MalleusSemperVictor I have! Using Nosler 135 JHP and 12.5 g blue dot, reached an average after 50 rounds of 1405 fps. I’ve seen some data that used CFE pistol powder and reached past 1500.

@MalleusSemperVictor Жыл бұрын

@@coreybenson3122 Out of what? I'm guessing it wasn't a G20.

@CandidZulu Жыл бұрын

Would love an episode on the history and fate of the Star company!

@kentvesser9484 Жыл бұрын

Give it about a decade and Othais will get to it hopefully.

@Verdis_deMosays Жыл бұрын

Star is seriously underrated. My first centerfire pistol was a 30MI, and the thing was a tank. Never malfunctioned, just kept running. Kinda miss it to be honest.

@wolfsmith2865 Жыл бұрын

I've owned BMs, B, Super B, M, both old and new models, and the PD. All fine reliable pistols.

@richardmeyer418 Жыл бұрын

I can go with that - My dad owned a BKS and a PD and I owned a BM and later a M43 (Firestar), which was a wonderfully accurate little carry gun.

@wolfsmith2865 Жыл бұрын

@@richardmeyer418 oh, I completely forgot the firestars! I had one in 9mm, 45 and 40.

@shaunross513 10 ай бұрын

The BM was a nice gun. Albeit with an unfortunate name.

@davidgates1122 Жыл бұрын

The 10mm is far from dead. Today it has a very specific purpose. It is a semiautomatic substitute for a 357 magnum revolver for trail carry in bear country, having a higher ammo capacity in the process. It has racked up several successful defensive uses in that role, and continues to be sought for that role.

@jubuttib Жыл бұрын

Fair, but isn't that more of a later resurgence? And by any metric, it didn't catch on as well as people thought it would at the time.

@davidgates1122 Жыл бұрын

@@jubuttib You are 100% correct.

@AshleyPomeroy Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see Forgotten Weapons cover the 10mm HK MP5s that the FBI used for a while. They had translucent, straight, polymer magazines. I remember them from the Rainbow Six games. Given the fad for PDWs a few years later it's a shame HK discontinued them.

@sys3248 Жыл бұрын

Good hunting rounds.

@axumisiarecords143 Жыл бұрын

10mm is good for killing irradiated mutants though

@danschneider9921 Жыл бұрын

Star pistols to me were like the "Kirkland" brand is to food products (here in the states) . Really just as good- mostly- but they have some stuff that is absolutely delicious for the price.

@NikoMoraKamu Жыл бұрын

hahah now we have like 3 cotscos in Spain too

@JimboJuice Жыл бұрын

@@NikoMoraKamu costco #1

@SteveWhipp Жыл бұрын

Hey now, you're an all megastar, get your game on!

@ThatAdamIsMild Жыл бұрын

...any that fire are gold, those Megastars are hard to hoooold.

@FL-Kman Жыл бұрын

Head of Star development: “Its not heavy enough. It needs the same mass as a dying sun.”

@trumpetfoote Жыл бұрын

I had a .45 Star back in the 80's. It was dubbed "the amazing self-destructing pistol" by my gun club friends. The thing had so many problems. Spray gun cleaner melted the grip panels and washed off the outer coating. We used it as a prop gun in matches after the magazine catch would no longer hold the mag securely and it would fail during firing and just fall out. I eventually sent it back to Star after the slide jammed in the half open position. A few months later I got a check for the retail cost of the gun.

@WTFisTingispingis Жыл бұрын

Ouch.

@herrcobblermachen Жыл бұрын

Which Star?

@trumpetfoote Жыл бұрын

@@herrcobblermachen After 37 years I really don't recall.

@herrcobblermachen Жыл бұрын

@@trumpetfoote totally fair point

@xkavarsmith9322 Жыл бұрын

Mmm, too bad. You couldn't whip up some cheap wood panels to hold it in place?

@stephenbarabas6286 Жыл бұрын

I have a star "firestar" 45 ACP that my now deceased uncle bought new in the late 80's(?) It the 1 gun I will never get rid of and it shoots fantastic, accurate and only works when it's dirty....the recoil spring broke maybe 30 years ago and after contacting Star (pretty much out of business then) they sent all replacement parts for no charge

@Cobalt-60 Жыл бұрын

Being left-handed, I was a huge fan of the Ultrastar in 9mm for 9+1 concealed carry. Mine (before it was stolen) was a tack-driver, was perfect for single-stack concealed carry in the early 1990s, and shot everything that I put through it. I still miss that gun!

@ArcticNemo Жыл бұрын

The M43 Firestar is hands-down my favorite carry piece, very pointable and tame for me. I'd only seen the Mega in .45 and had no idea that it was originally designed for the stout 10mm. Thank you for this.

@pauloakwood9208 Жыл бұрын

The Star BM is still one of my favorite pistols. No nonsense, no gimmicks, just straight up reliability.

@tommyblackwell3760 Жыл бұрын

That's why a BM is my EDC.

@owllymannstein7113 Жыл бұрын

and probably the worst name in gun history

@andrewallason4530 Жыл бұрын

@@owllymannstein7113 it shits on its own reputation 🤪

@FoxtrotFleet Жыл бұрын

@@owllymannstein7113 You have been promoted to moderator of the Walther PP forums.

@Gearparadummies Жыл бұрын

I learned to shoot with one of those.

@ianray8823 Жыл бұрын

Gun Jesus just referred to 10mm reloads as "pissin hot" and thus it is now scripture

@deaconblue949 Жыл бұрын

It's one of those "hipster" calibers

@kentvesser9484 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that is in the Book of Speer or the Book of Hornady.

@roberttrester4030 Жыл бұрын

*Most people talk trash about firearms made in Spain but STAR made some great guns. I use to own a Star Firestar Plus (model 243). It was a great little single action 9mm pistol. The Firestar plus looks very similar to this and has some of the same features except in single action obviously.*

@dem0nchild610 Жыл бұрын

I never knew that 10mm was such a high pressure case I actually really like that peice

@peaceoutbruh7085 Жыл бұрын

Hot 10mm ammo is equivalent to .41 Magnum. It's a potent round, especially with heavy anti-bear loads.

@ScottKenny1978 Жыл бұрын

Most 10mm isn't loaded as hot as that, it's loaded to a little more than .40S&W levels. Buffalo Bore is.

@peaceoutbruh7085 Жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine A magazine of 15 mild .41 magnum rounds would be enough to kill anything on the North American continent, so 10mm seems ok to me.

@ScottKenny1978 Жыл бұрын

@@saltybuttskin there are a few loads that are close per wiki, 10mm does a 175gr bullet at 1290fps, .41mag does a 170gr bullet at 1275fps. But I think that's a fairly heavy load for the 10mm and a light load for the .41.

@ScottKenny1978 Жыл бұрын

@@saltybuttskin hitting the Buffalo Bore website, their hard cast lead load is a 220gr bullet at 1200fps, while their heaviest bullet for the .41 is a 265gr at 1350fps. So yeah, while _some_ 10mm loads duplicate _some_ .41mag loads, the heaviest loads for each are not comparable. But now I want to try that 220gr load in a pistol. Rock Island makes a double stack 10mm, but they put thick single stack grips on it... Would be a lot of firepower with 16+1 or more compared to either 10+1 in a single stack or 14+1 in a double stack for .45!

@TheRighttoArmBears2022 Жыл бұрын

I want one, I love the 10mm and love Star pistols, I have a firestar, firestar plus and 2 star BM. Star made great guns and I bet finding a Megastar in 10mm would be as hard as getting a Bren ten.🐻‍❄

@Clifford-jv7hk 6 ай бұрын

I have a nice one if you are interested

@nightshadefern162 Жыл бұрын

The UltraStar is similar in many ways. Although it is considerably smaller, it also separates the slide release and takedown pin. The saftey also functions as a decocker and, although quite similar to the Megastar, functions in an easier way- the lower of the dun is chunkier (polymer) so the saftey cannot rotate over the lower like on the Megastar. My Ultrastar is in 9mm, but I think they were available in other calibers as well. Single stack.

@Fourthmark Жыл бұрын

Stars are pretty underrated

@alexriley55 Жыл бұрын

The real 10mm pistol that should have been added to fallout

@modarkthemauler Жыл бұрын

Naah, I still prefer the look that's in the game and hope someone makes one for real.

@antjeeismann4684 Жыл бұрын

@@modarkthemauler the version in fo3 looks neet but the 10mm pistol in fo4 is just awful

@raptor4916 Жыл бұрын

@@antjeeismann4684 thats why i use the realistic damage mod theres nothing more fun than blowing off the arms of raider with your starting weapon

@modarkthemauler Жыл бұрын

@@antjeeismann4684 I agree

@molochi Жыл бұрын

@@raptor4916 Games just give things too many hit points. So depressing when you shoot a raider in the heart a half dozen times to put him down. but I'm not a fan of blowing limbs off with small arms in games either.

@darink300zx Жыл бұрын

I had one of these in 45 back in the early 2000s, one of the few guns I’ve traded off that I always regretted since I knew even at the time I probably wouldn’t run across another for as little as I paid for it. Thanks for the video!

@darink300zx Жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine possibly, but I’m sure not for the 250 I paid back then for it, lol.

@Nortonduke Жыл бұрын

in the immortal words of Borris the blade from movie Snatch. 'heavy is good, Heavy is a sign of reliability, if it doesn't work you can always hit him with it'

@dotdot9628 21 күн бұрын

I bought a megastar .45 today for $150! LGS had it for $189, i look down as i asked "Whats the best you can do on this tank?" Im 47 and remember seeing them in the early 90s at 14yo at gun shows. I decided at the time it was my favorite pistol and always held it when i saw it. Ive never seen another since. I have a lot of old and modern pistols but the 14yo in me lit up today.

@ElainesDomain Жыл бұрын

My EDC is a Star M40. Bought used in 1993. It's a heavy all steel compact like the double stack M43 9mm that came out in 1991. The 9mm was Guns and Ammo gun of the year and the NRA gun of the year. Star's problem was weight and a decade late. New polymer guns also hit the market a few years earlier. One big point about the 9mm and the .40 S&W is that the frame has stippling everywhere. My M40 never fails to fire and fairly accurate with it's 3.38'' barrel. The take down is the same as a Hi Power. No tools. Pop the pin out and it comes apart. The Star was used by military and police around the world. As an aside. No one that I show my gun to is impressed. They'll tell me to get a Sig or Smith poly anything to replace it with.

@chapiit08 Жыл бұрын

Star and Astra made good guns, both are underrated.

@jeffy59 Жыл бұрын

Finally Spain gets more recognization

@reliantncc1864 Жыл бұрын

In case you're wondering how Spain is viewed in American gun culture, I think we tend to view them as middle-tier. On a level with Turkey or Italy. Not as good as America, Germany, or the Czechs, but better than most others.

@ZeroHxC07 Жыл бұрын

@@reliantncc1864 I never heard of this guns before finding this channel, but when I ask my father if they sound familiar he told me he shot most of them when he was in the army.

@1südtiroltechnik Жыл бұрын

@@reliantncc1864 Turkey and Italy, Germany and Czechia on a Level? lol

@josesierraromero8316 Жыл бұрын

Star is a very good Spanish brand but if SHTF or your neighbour turns too pale and tries to suck some blood of you better choose an also Spanish "Astra 400",that damn thing is a PISTOL ,zero nonsenses,zero shit,all steel,almost no malfunctions,fail proof and can fire Without hamming ALL 9mm : 380.,parabellum,largo...😵 the Spanish loyal girlfriend you always dream on 😙

@reliantncc1864 Жыл бұрын

@@1südtiroltechnik In terms of their gun industries, Turkey, Spain and Italy are on a level. The Czech Republic is on another level above them. Germany is on another level above the Czechs. What about this confuses you?

@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

This is a pretty cool gun. I love the disassembly, especially the captive pin. We need more designs like this, although, yeah, the safety was definitely upside down.

@schinderiapraemeturus6239 Жыл бұрын

Back in the late 90s these were going for around $450, I almost purchased one but didn't know if the 10mm was going to catch on. Owned a 9mm M30 for many years and regret selling it, it was completely reliable. Very difficult to find spare mags for these though

@majorpwner241 Жыл бұрын

It's a shame Star no longer exists. I would be very interested in their products if they were still going. I'm pretty sure this one in particular is one of the awesome guns featured in "Heat".

@alwyngulzar522 Жыл бұрын

I agree, its a shame and a tragedy that they no longer exist. One of the best firearm manufactures in Europe. I heard that a few of their old staff had collected most of the manufactured parts and spares. IPARGUNS MANUFACTURA DE ARMAS SL is said to have some spares lying around, but trying to get hold of them is difficult.

@peepsbates Жыл бұрын

Wow, the sequel to Kirby Superstar really got serious.

@AndrewStevenson316 Жыл бұрын

I carried a Star 30PK for 15 years both as my EDC and a backup pistol in the SA Police. I would love to see a video on the 30 family of handguns some time.

@wolfsmith2865 Жыл бұрын

It's funny that Spanish guns receive such poor press when one of the first companies Postwar Germany bought arms from to supply their police was Star. Star and Astra made great quality guns for decades.

@009013M3 Жыл бұрын

Now, I do have a couple of Spanish guns that I very much adore. But at that time Germany was mostly concerned with cost and availability. The shape they were in doesn't lend well to their selections being an endorsement.

@huntersrauwolf Жыл бұрын

The Wildey Survivor has a very similar safety. Takes a lot of getting used to!

@ironwolfF1 Жыл бұрын

If I were hoping for a 'what-if' pistol, I'd rub the magic lamp for (revived) Spanish C96 variant in the new .30 SC cartridge. OTOH, a pre-ban Megastar in 10mm would be pretty sweet as well.

@user-yd9rm4ds8c Жыл бұрын

The Beistegui Hermanos, or the Astra 900?

@ironwolfF1 Жыл бұрын

@@user-yd9rm4ds8c The Astra 900, of course...though I wouldn't say no to a repro of the Bergmann M1910/21 😉

@user-yd9rm4ds8c Жыл бұрын

That’s stylish. STAR made a nice MP40 version, the STAR Z45. I believe Ian has videos on both the Beistegui Hermanos and the Z45. There is a beautifully engraved Astra 900 around, damasquinada.

@dougmulle2627 Жыл бұрын

I had three of the Firestars two 45s and a 9 in their Starvell finish. loved all of them, with thousands of rounds through them, and we're main carry guns for a good while. Even had tridgicon sights on two of them

@NikeaTiber Жыл бұрын

I never thought I'd want a spanish pistol. Now I'm convinced that I can't live without one.

@The_Modeling_Underdog Жыл бұрын

Did Ian just have a Megatron Moment at the start of the video? The Megastar reminded me of that Boris the Blade quote: "Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. And if it doesn't work you can always hit them with it".

@upperroomtoo Жыл бұрын

With the removeable fire control group it would be neat to see someone make a polymer grip assembly.

@dinkledord7026 Жыл бұрын

@@j.robertsergertson4513 yeah, 4.5 inches is for big boys only

@pewpew9193 Жыл бұрын

@@j.robertsergertson4513 What makes this more powerful than my 10mm Glock? Nothing. The Glock just has better capacity & dosen't weigh 60 lbs.

@pewpew9193 Жыл бұрын

@@j.robertsergertson4513 Are you a Fed or a Fudd?

@measl Жыл бұрын

*Do you really want to shoot this from a light polymer? No thanks.*

@pewpew9193 Жыл бұрын

@@measl It's truly not that bad.

@littlejohnny47 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this on the MegaStar! Based on many of the comments there are still some fans of Spanish handguns out there…. Another good Star to look over would be the Star UltraStar in 9mm or .40 S&W. The only polymer Spanish pistol I know of and another very under appreciated pistol. Regards.

@dongray9852 Жыл бұрын

Star PDs were terrific (not to mention among the earliest ever) .45 compacts back in the 70s... Top shelf quality. In demand at the time. Wish I still had mine. 😟

@thezieg Жыл бұрын

My brother-in-law had a 1980 (?) Firestar and I still have a '76 BM9. Star firearms work well for me.

@andrewgordon235 Жыл бұрын

I've seen some videos of a guy shooting the EAA Tangfolio in 10mm and I see why it never became a duty round in it's original loading it's got some kick!

@herrcobblermachen Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Been asking for this one. I think you didn't mention the different finishes 0:). Beautiful vid

@chuckbridgeland6181 Жыл бұрын

Except for the removable fire control group, that reminds me a lot of my old 9mm Firestar. Which was also a very heavy gun for it's size.

@harryspeakup8452 Жыл бұрын

This is something I've never heard of until today, and now it's suddenly a favourite underdog

@pb68slab18 Жыл бұрын

I was a retail dealer when this gun came out. Star had some really good guns in those days. I saw .45 versions, but never could get a 10mm. I did buy a 9mm M-43 Firestar and 9mm M-30.

@mikjkmikjk380 Жыл бұрын

Great review! I have my Megastar in 10mm and it is a chunky handgun. Trigger is not the greatest, but it is combat accurate. I knew there were less 10mm than .45ACP made, but didn't realize there were less than 1000 10mm Megastars. With 2 mags and original packaging, it's a nice piece in my 10mm collection.

@johnsnodgrass7232 Жыл бұрын

Hey a video about the Ruger XGI .308 would be cool. I remember seeing advertised in American Hunter in the mid 80’s when I was in grade school. Never seen one in the wild.

@jeroendesterke9739 Жыл бұрын

I picked up my 10mm today in 95% pristine condition. It fits my large hands and I love its looks. Once you remove the trigger group / backstrap, the date of manufacture will be revealed. Mine is L2, making it 1st year production (1992) Although Ian says that you can get it cheaply, prices will reflect the scarcity of them, so be prepared to pay around $600+ for the 45 and at least DOUBLE for the 10. Weight? make that 49.83 oz with empty magazine, so nearly a full 50 oz.

@nucleargrizzly1776 Жыл бұрын

I have one in the Starvel finish. It's pimptastic.

@adamelliott2302 Жыл бұрын

Owned a Star PD and a Star BM. Bought them mostly because they were different and not terribly expensive. Both were more than adequate pistols. The PD was a really nice size for carrying. Thanks for shining a bit more light on STAR.

@Chiller01 Жыл бұрын

Whoa, back to to fireplace guy. Takes me back to when things weren’t so crazy.

@george2113 Жыл бұрын

I hope he has a segment with a wood stove

@TheMediocreMountainBiker Жыл бұрын

I had a Star Firestar in the relatively new 40 S&W at the time. That thing was so uncomfortable to shoot and I think it turned me off of centerfire pistols for a few years.

@ianscottmcd Жыл бұрын

I cannot imagine a Firestar in 40 S&W! The 9mm version is an excellent pistol however.

@co1950 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy my firestar 9mm

@tndutchman3137 Жыл бұрын

My EDC is a Firestar .40. It does take a little getting used too, but it does a good job.

@richardmeyer418 Жыл бұрын

@@ianscottmcd I had one in 9mm, but they were certainly available in .40 S&W.

@jonrolfson1686 Жыл бұрын

Bought a Firestar in .40S&W in the mid 90s; wish that I had bought two of them, and maybe a third in 9mm as well. All steel, and heavy for its size, it is quite comfortable to shoot and has never shown any reluctance to shoot well with the relatively few different .40S&W ammunition choices that I have tried.

@totizabayle377 Жыл бұрын

When I was allowed to carry at work, I really enjoyed the starlight bks for couple of years and really regret letting it go when I changed jobs. I have now a firestar .40 S&W as my hide away home defense gun. Very informative video.

@jolan_tru Жыл бұрын

This was one of my favourite firearms for a long time. I don't really know why. I love it and I will hear no argument.

@Hassassini Жыл бұрын

12 seconds in and you got my upvote. New record.

@ericemmons4541 Жыл бұрын

I owned one of these guns . Loved it, could not break it. Also a heavy club if you ran out of ammo

@Helltanz98 Жыл бұрын

All I can think, is that it needs Death Star themed grips.

@pocketsand4404 Жыл бұрын

Saw a Star Model 28 in 9mm awhile back. It was a VERY HEAVY pistol weighing almost 3 pounds unloaded. Kinda wish I got it, but oh well...I do have another Spanish pistol, the Astra A-70 in 9mm. Love that pistol! All steel compact 9mm that's been very reliable.

@andrewgee241 Жыл бұрын

I lived in Alexandria 30 years ago and remember the old Interarms warehouse was on the Potomac River. I would go to Potomac Armory a ramshackle gunshop which was two blocks away.

@mrkeogh Жыл бұрын

"I had to get it on, man."

@johnpowell2624 Жыл бұрын

Had my Megastar 10 on my hip while watching. One thing not mentioned was at least on the 10, the safety lever will also de-cock the hammer if pushed father down from the safe position. I definitely appreciate the Star pistol line.

@Angrymuscles Жыл бұрын

Bless you for pronouncing it properly sir, we are all duly impressed.

@ZGryphon Жыл бұрын

"Steel frame, steel slide, _oof."_ If they were still selling these, they could use that as the strapline for a new ad campaign. :)

@dropkickedmurphy6463 Жыл бұрын

The most Transformer name I have ever heard of for a firearm. I'll take 10.

@dan-dan-da-treeman Жыл бұрын

My first 9 was a star arms. It was great.

@kazumaopantsus7621 Жыл бұрын

Hello im from Spain and i think i remember seen policeman( "Policía Nacional" to be precise) having this gun, and thinking about how big it was , could have been this model or a similar looking one? Pd: Your videos are quite interesting queep up the good work.

@user-yd9rm4ds8c Жыл бұрын

Probablemente la Modeo 28PK Salud

@Bujanina Жыл бұрын

You‘d really benefit from a great 1440p or 4K camera with great stabilization. Other than that thanks for another great video :)

@lilwyvern4 Жыл бұрын

A beautiful little piece of machinery. I've got a soft spot for the superchunk pistols like this and the Mk 23. Also I love the pageantry of the name. It's sort of refreshing to not just have something named after a few letters and numbers, but to give it a proper title.

@jonathanjollimore4794 Жыл бұрын

Hey man glad you found your thing

@rowangallagher4579 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad to see 10mm coming back, it’s cool to learn about the first time it was popular.

@deanlinkimer5377 Жыл бұрын

I was hoping you’d do a star handgun someday! I grew up shooting my fathers Model 205 Ultrastar that used to be his carry gun. It’s certainly beefy compared to more modern carry guns but man is it solid. I always found the way the frame protruded out and somewhat over the slide a bit odd, and my smaller hands sometimes had a really hard time getting the first round loaded. It’d be awesome to see you do one on that model as well.

@SonOfAldabarran Жыл бұрын

Waingro approved for armored car robberies!

@thefattertheratter45 Жыл бұрын

First we got naked Ian doing a shooting course now we have the word 'Chonky' being used in earnest. A new age is dawning for Forgotten Weapons.

@onkelmicke9670 Жыл бұрын

I experimented with the hottest 10 mm loads I could get away with in an IAI Javelina and it worked surprisingly well.

@HootOwl513 Жыл бұрын

In '94 I bought a brand new STAR Firestar Plus in 9x19mm. ,,Starvel'' finish. Steel slide, Aluminum lower. Browning HP type barrel/recoil spring assembly. Fat knob at the muzzle end. 13 + 1 in the chamber. Only 1 mag in a green plastic box. At a gunshow, I bought a converted S&W Ladysmith mag [12 + 1] that had an extra notch cut into the mag side to work in the Star. The S&W mag also had a ''cute'' pinky finger retainer at the butt. It also fit my Marlin Camp Nine Carbine [designed to run on S&W 59 magazines.] While the ballistic properties of a pistol with a 1-7/8'' barrel are debatable, it was [or would have been] efficient at clearing phone booths and closets of drug-crazed dwarves and maniacal midgets armed with razor sharp kris daggers. I never encountered such a threat. Never had any jamming or other malfunctions. I regret that I sold it to a friend, who chivvied me below retail because Star was defunct. I've offered to buy it back but he refused. He since fell off the Edge of the Known World by moving to Michigan.

@molochi Жыл бұрын

re: 10mmAuto in general and handloading. I got a glock20 pretty much on release and talked with a buddies brother that worked in the office of glock in atl about handloading it. he said that it was good for anything in a handbook. I used pulled and reloaded winchester blacktalons that came downloaded to 200gr @

@ThatAdamIsMild Жыл бұрын

Great comment, thank you.

@scotth4713 Жыл бұрын

I had a .45 version and loved it.

@ragingjaguarknight86 Жыл бұрын

LOL @ Ian's face when he said "Star MEGASTAR!!!" XD

@ronreyes9910 Жыл бұрын

I'm one of the ten people who bought a Colt Double Eagle in 10mm and it sat in the safe because of the price of 10mm ammo (When you could find it). I still own a M45 Firestar which I like very much.

@STB-jh7od Жыл бұрын

I've wanted one of these for years. All star pistols, I've handled were all chunky metal beasts, even the "small" concealed 9mm they made in 80s.

@docternoblex Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing these in stores, I was actually curious how this would handle in the OHWS trials in .45 if it could handle the 10mm so well, they could definitely make some mods and make a big name for themselves

@loupiscanis9449 Жыл бұрын

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

@chuzzley Жыл бұрын

It's OBVIOUSLY needs to be bigger to make up for that "soft Spanish steel" I keep hearing about...

@DK-421 Жыл бұрын

A Robin Hood Prince of Thieves reference!? 😂

@kikichevy Жыл бұрын

I saw the video title, yelled "MEGASTAR". I laughed my ass off when Ian did it too. This is why FW is one of my favorite channels.

@davefinfrock3324 Жыл бұрын

A friend of mine had a real jones for this pistol when it was announced. He'd had a Star M30 and this gun fired his imagination. High capacity, major caliber, doesn't (sorta/kinda) cost too much, yeah, it was the heat. I still remember the look on his face when he finally had a chance to pick one up--classic WTF? moment. Most of use ended up with G21s and he eventually ended up with a G20, but that's another story.

@MesaperProductions Жыл бұрын

"The Star MEGA-STAR!" You should definitely do voice-over work!

@TheWalterKurtz Жыл бұрын

I passed on a couple of these in 10mm years ago. It was kind of a joke how heavy they were. I have two Firestar .40 S&Ws that I consider "retired" but intend to keep. On the other end of the scale was the Star PD aluminum frame mini .45acp. Had one of those. Most un-pleasant handgun I ever fired. One magazine thru it and the grooved trigger would make my finger bleed.

@guymansonjr4780 Жыл бұрын

Resprung to a heavier recoil spring the PD is a pussycat.

@VegasCyclingFreak Жыл бұрын

This one makes me think it's like the Desert Eagle's smaller companion, the Desert Hawk.

@justinholland9844 Жыл бұрын

Baby Eagle?

@MrRogsmart Жыл бұрын

Another good one. Thanks.

@bmedlin00 Жыл бұрын

I had a Star firestar plus back in the day.. it was not a terrible handgun, I was pleasantly surprised

@recoilrob324 Жыл бұрын

I have Firestar's in 9mm and 40 and while heavy, they're well made guns that shoot well. Shame that they're no longer available and parts almost non-existent if they would be needed.

@WalnutandSteel Жыл бұрын

I like my Firestar m40. Its pretty heavy too I can only imagine how heavy this is

@crownroyal2248 Жыл бұрын

I was going to ask why no review of this specific gun. I guess patience _is_ a virtue. I owned and fired this gun in 45 ACP and loved it. The one I owned shot everything from reloads to SD ammo. I purchased a couple of magtech (?) magazines that didn't work. Even though I only had one factory magazine that worked; this is my number 2 choice as my all-time favorite gun.

@hanktorrance6855 Жыл бұрын

I have a 40 firestar and its a heavy duty gun. all steel, comfortable to hold and shoot.

@44hawk28 11 ай бұрын

I've got a star 45 and it's really really nice shooting pistol. Highly accurate. Barrel just long enough to get enough velocity out of it for the 45 to take effect. A really nice trigger. I've seen the stars that came out before it. They were pretty good guns from everybody I've known that his shot them, I've never seen a problem with them. Not for fan of 9 mm, however I almost purchased the same gun in the 13 shot 40 Smith. Great firearms. Too bad they finally folded. They were really nice guns, I don't know anything about this Megastar. In the mid-eighties when the 10 mm first came out, it was loaded this very respectable velocities. Unlike today's 10 mm which is only loaded to a good hot 40 Smith velocity. The ones in the 80s were truly Magnum class.

@xmintyx 4 ай бұрын

What’s the 45s mag capacity?