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Trek Culture - YOUR Figures are way off, it does NOT take into Account that the ENT-D is NOT a Warship, that it Actually took the CREW's Family into Space, and the ENT-D had a Large NURSERY and Childcare, it had SCHOOLS up to JR College level, it had a LARGE Medbays to deal with CREW and Civilian Injuries. it had a Large Security section , providing TOTAL Security for CREW, Passangers and NON - Starfleet. and ENT-D had Large off DUTY areas for Passangers, CREW and NON- Starfleet to Mingle. Ent -D even had a Holotheater, Swimming pool, Gymnasium and other TRAINING Areas in Addition to Holodecks so, your Figures are BUNK.

YOU Missed that the Origional ENT-D has a MEDUSAN Navigator Station and a MEDUSAN Habitat. this was so the CREW would not go MAD when Encountering the Medusan Navigator.

I sea what you did there

@@inquirohaqq1472 whale I'll be. You did sea what he did.

Ouuuchhh..

Your puns give me the urchin to vomit.

The idea of dolphins on starships seems a little fishy to me.

I came here to say exactly this

In his defence he did say character and not actor/actress

@@adamcroft80 fair point

@@adamcroft80 Sure, but I'd consider a voice actor more of a character than a spaceship, especially when the ship in question is NOT the same ship in each version of Star Trek.

Derek Allyn true.

She was not on the first few episodes of TNG. It was a male voice.

@@videodistroDang I didn't pay attention there 😮 but captain Picard took care of how the enterprise computer should work 😅. He also had that continuous red alert blaring silenced. In the rest of the series on red alert there was only a few blares and then only the visual indication. Way better😎

She started voicing the computer both on TOS and TNG a few episodes into the production of the show. As an actress though, she was in 4 of the 5 shows from before the turn of the millennium. TOS as Number One and Nurse Chapel. TAS as some character. And TNG and DS9 as the ever lovely Lwaxana Troi, daughter of the fifth house, holder of the sacred chalice of Rixx, heir to the holy rings of Betazed

I know right? Except my mind had Orion Slv-girls with cat ears O.o

Intentional mistake was intentional.

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Tldr; 10) It's full of cat sh*t 9) It's full of cat sh*t 8) It's full of cat sh*t ... 1) It's full of cat sh*t

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@@660reliant I think they left their towles behind

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Where was the petunia in all this?

@@colinp2238 i don't know it may have been crushed by teh sperm whale

Nope. She wasn't on the first number of episodes of TNG. It was a male voice.

Well the enterprise D was the flag ship and a prestiege projeckt. It was meant to show all the technological might of the federation and not be your average miranda class. It is like those massive skyscrapers that are menat to be vertical cities with halve the space empty 5 years later because of the redicouless rent costs. Also a function of the galaxy class was to resettle entire colonys. So you needed the space the that amount of people + their stuff.

I'd read that fanfic!

My thoughts exactly! I imagine the cetacean crew could learn to communicate with the Xindi Aquatics very quickly. Imagine them exchanging gossip about their respective primate species! 😉 Oh, and it's a good thing Livingston was a poisonous lionfish, otherwise Jellico might have fed him to the dolphins! 😁

I always wondered what you did when a fire broke out on a starship. Turbolifts are basically really sophisticated elevators. Where are the stairs on most of the ships? Or is it just kind of your stuck in the tin can with a fire, stairs wouldn't matter?

While they never really showed the central stairs, TNG *did* show several ways of moving around the ship, like various hatchways, tubes, and laddereways ..

@@benullom2301 I agree that they should have had stairs. But it's totally possible that they had stairs, but we never see them. It would make sense in the Defiant to have stairs due to its height and the amount of decks. But, they also had Jeffrey tubes, named after Matt Jeffreries, who designed the original Enterprise.

Right we did see all sorts of access throughout the ship, even if we never saw an actual stairwell, and then I thought of this logically. If a fire broke out on a starship it would be as simple as evacuating the area, sealing it I'm from the rest of the ship, and terminating the life support in the effected area, no oxygen no fire.

@@benullom2301 During a fire a force field suppression system would constrict the fire and let it burn up all it's own oxygen within the field so it self-extinguished, basically a choking method. But with the Jeffries tubes, you could still get around from deck to deck, it would just be very inconvenient.

I did think when I saw the caption, "That's a bit of a harsh judgment on Kirk..."

I was not the only one who noticed it?

@@gngrdanny Legit mistake. I hit undo too many times on what I was working on and it affected this title. - Editor.

Kirk was actually the one who put the cat shit all over the set between seasons.

TrekCulture all gold. Shit happens. Thanks for the amazing channel!

Right, it went great! I fucking loved that dolphin!

@@LordGalenYT Loved the dolphin but the Frank Welker voice didn't work for me.

Sorry for the grammar errors, Google is getting worse.

Hey, Darwin was cool !

Although Ivan Tors & cast sure made it work in producing "Flipper." (I wonder what changed: the dolphins or the production methods? What happened, right?)

I'm not aware that Gene Roddenberry had anything to do with SeaQuest. Do you have any information that supports that he did?

Also they are very profane...

Morgan McCrindle really tho

Morgan - the Enterprise - D ORIGIONALY had a MEDUSAN Navigator and Habitat , to keep the CREW Sepreated from the MEDUSAN.

"Enterprise: The First Voyage" by Vonda McIntire included dolphins on the NCC-1701.

Morgan McCrindle yea there's only so many times they can slingshot around the sun .... they figured we better prepare for the next visit from our whale gods

Well, why forbit the second most intelligent species (after the mice) to forbit to go to space travel would really be outrageous of us, the third most intelligent species on earth ;)

Not only that, but she was the original first officer in the pilot episode of TOS.

@@tommytwotacos8106 She was 1st officer on Pike's crew, but Pike was not the first captain of the NCC-1701. That was Robert April, who had his own first officer (NOT Number One.)

Scott Kester Bring it down a notch, they are talking about film production, not Star Trek cannon.

Diana Mulder also

I paused the video when he asked that question and wracked my brain. Majel Barret was the only possibility I could come up with. Was disappointed to find it was a silly joke. :)

"Because Starfleet"? How about because *not* being able to communicate with cetaceans almost destroyed the Earth? ;)

@@ElectroDFW right...and you know..starfleet.

"Humpbacked people?" - Scotty

I miss Scotty was a sad day when James Doohan died.

"Wait a minute, wait a minute, Admiral... Are you telling me, you made a Time Machine.... out of a Bird of Prey?" XD

That might be the first time I've actually smiled due to an _Enterprise_ retcon and/or continuity error. 🤓 EDIT: By which I mean to say that it's neat how due to Cetacean Ops not being shown on TNG, the insertion of the Xindi war into 22nd Century history, is *not* a continuity error, for once.

And we got to know that there are Xindis on Enterprise-J. So there is a chance that this includes aquatic Xindis cooperating with dolphins, too.

@@SusScrofaBob Snap! I was thinking of something similar. Would have been fun to see!

Yup called the Aquatics.

Remember the probe in Star Trek The Voyage Home was built to comminicate with dolphins and or a space dolphin race

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No Formal Training good one...more like 2 number twos though

Damn it Spot.

Cat #1 smells worse than cat #2.

Santino & Angelica Pino that was a great video! Adam great job leading the charge here! ABSOLUTE GREAT CONTENT! Do DS9 next please!

Saw that, and was checking to see if anyone else commented on that!! LOL

@@arekpetrosian4965 same

@thunderbird002 One of his many fetishes, I'm sure.

Spots Revenge!!! Ill teach you to change my breed and sex everytime i appeared Alrigjht mates!! Catshit torpedoes away!!!

People on the ship don't really make much fun of Doctor Bubbles. Because of his security officer, Lieutenant Worca.

Mr La Forca, the warp core is gonna explode! Please help!

Jeah but even with crew and families the enterprise is gigantic and leer! The one that measure the population and the space has the families with in is calculation

@@-Gothicgirl- Sure, but there were definitely more than crew in the lounge areas. No doubt, some of the lounges and recreation areas were reserved for crew only, but not all.

Civilian contractors for sure, like the bolian who was the barber. Also remember how big their quarters were. In TOS crewmen bunked multiples to a room. In TNG everybody got basically a one bedroom apt,unless u had family, then u got bigger digs,

Yeah we know

@@CooknBimbo they have quarters much much larger than most one bedroom apartments I've lived in

Further irony, Stargate eventually got starships, transporters, shuttle craft and space battles, so good on ST:TNG for staying ahead of the curve.

@@CarbonTech19 actually, lot of episodes of SG1 and Star trek were the same.

@@Persian-Immortal I was, and am, a big fan of both franchises, and have seen episodes of each multiple times. Though I noted no direct steals, I have no doubt that there were many cases of the writers being influenced by previous episodes or by other content, such as short stories or books, either Sci-Fi or classical, such as Shakespeare, that have served as common inspiration for both franchise's writers. It's par for the course.

@@Persian-Immortal - Especially in that one episode in Voyager where crew members were abducted and implanted with false memories and sent to work in some kind of industrial plant ... vs the the SG-1 episode where the team members were abducted and implanted with false memories... yes... same plot.

Actually Roddenberry had envisioned the Enterprise landing on a planet. But due to budget constraints he had to create a convincing plot device that could allow them to land on the planet. Hence the "transporter". Now the real world reference. Stargate's gates work on a principal of deconstructing the item, sending it through hyperspace, and reintegrating it at the destination. Star Trek is different as it uses a transitional state of energy to "shift" an object or person to a location as opposed to breaking them down and putting them back together. That's the closest to teleportation as it does not rely on breaking up atoms, simply shifting them to a higher energy state and relocating them.

Actually, the original Enterprise was supposed to, and references were made to children aboard, but this apparently got dropped.

I thought Enterprise D did. Worf's Son went to school with other kids. That boy that wanted to be like Data did too. And Clara, the one with the scary imaginary friend came on with her father.

Some 1000 to 1100+ people on board, only "a few hundred crew" actually required to operate all ship systems, maybe a few hundred more specialists and scientists and such for multi-role exploration missions, all the rest families and children and teachers and pediatricians and civilians and visitors. But the generally didn't emphasize the idea much past first season because it would seem too stupid to order a ship full of children to charge a Borg cube or dive into a space anomaly, most of the writers didn't want a -military- exploration ship to be constrained by families and domestic issues.

Yup. I seem to recall an entire episode about separating the saucer section to protect the "noncombatants" (to use a term they wouldn't have), which was essentially family housing, support staff, schooling, medical, recreation, etc, from the main ship. So, the crew and actual ship functions would all have been in just the lower section.

@john jones I dunno. Crusher and Worf were single parents. So were Data and Troi, briefly. DS9 and VOY had single parents onboard as well.

I noticed this too! I think there was also a door that was labelled Cetacean ops seen in the show, but it wasn't shown what was through it (probably an unrelated set the like the transporter room or something) If you want to actually see a great show that does more then just reference fun easter eggs like this, try watching Lower Decks! I have gasped, pointed, and shouted something at the screen multiple times when I Recognize something obscure and my boyfriend just stares at me lol.

Good to hear that Jamie!

The novel Dark Mirror features a dolphin researcher and describes his environmental suit.

@@nimblehealer199 I remember that lol. He also said he wanted to get out of the mirror universe because all his friends probably were eaten. He was also the first one to figure out they were not in their home universe.

Good shirts were almost twice as likely to die... there were just way more red shirts on the ship. Literally almost 5 times as many. So of course they’d be more likely to be shown dying.

I would think that all cetaceans are blue shirts

That was his porpoise

They showed a brief glimpse of what the mall could have been in one episode they had Worf trying to buy a wedding gift with Data.

Seems pointless when there are replicators and no money

@@y0uCantHandle Imagine you could anything you want, but you don't know exactly what you want.

@@TheSorrel sound like a Q problem to me

Supposedly in Star Wars, the Death Star had a massive mall and even an amusement park. Star Trek beat them there with the holodeck.

Do you *eat* with that mouth?

It was in the secondary hull below the hangar bay. Six lanes, iirc.

Thats because Dolphins would only be able to do land missions on water planets. And well, I would say, the technology for dolphins to run ships came from the Xindi. I mean, they had a complete aquatic species with their own ships.

And then encounter fluidic space

Now you are getting into DSV sea quest territory, with dolphin tubes running around the ship.

Then perhaps the dolphins should have special devices that allow them to move around and access the parts of ships that don't have water to swim in.

@@girlgarde It might be hard on creatures evolved to live in a buoyant state, having their bodies fully bearing down on whatever support structure encased them. Then again, some technomagic antigrav voodoo would probably solve that. Still, I'm glad they didn't follow through with that, because the CGI to render them in a believable manner just wasn't there. It would have been hokey.

I'm guessing they wouldn't need to haul a big load of generic matter everywhere they go. Space is full of matter, even gas particles that the bussard collectors pull in just by flying around. Also, to prevent hoarding situations, crewmen may need to discard stuff in order to get new stuff.

I don't know how I would react to this fact. I guess it doesn't matter.

I think that you're forgetting that all matter is just organized energy. The most simple demonstration of which is the unpacking of that energy through either atomic fusion or atomic fission, especially in the event of an atomic bomb. Very little matter, huge energy release. What a transporter does is kind of like running white light through one prism to diffract it into a spectrum, then in the reverse direction through another prism to refocus it back into white light. Matter is broken up into energy, then directed to a focal point where it is reconstituted into matter. Because of this, what you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. Not that the toilets are replicators; in fact if anything they would be either some type of transporter, or possibly even more simply a matter reconstitution device that would simply change it into energy. That energy could then be changed into generic matter, whether some form of inert molecular structure, or perhaps atomic or even subatomic building blocks. (I might suggest that it could even be stored as energy itself, but what more efficient storage container is there for energy, than Matter itself?) After all, according to our still-standing standard model of the universe, energy can neither be created or destroyed, only converted or transferred. Just don't get locked into thinking matter is just matter. Whether you're talking transporters or replicators, it's all about Energy.

Basically, a transporter would be like a device that could cause a nuclear explosion, but then rebuild the atom. And a replicator would be half of that, a device that gathers energy and builds atoms. And molecules. And even organic compounds. Without all that endothermic by-product. Possibly some kind of feedback loop, redirecting all of that heat energy back into the energy stream? Kind of like regenerative braking on hybrid busses.

Naaaaaa. . . . . Your talking poop dude. All the stuff that was replicated came from the same place that was used to power everything in the ship. Energy is converted to matter and the matter is organized into what ever it is that you want. The transporter converts a person into energy and that energy is beamed and then reassembled wherever it is that one would like to go. TGC Blessings in abundance:)

From everything I’ve read and heard, the Captain’s Yacht was something different and never shown on screen during the TNG series. I think they even had sketches of what it would look like and it was different than the standard TNG shuttles or DS9 runabouts (but maybe I’m conflating the image of it with the one from the Enterprise E)

@@redapol5678 sorry my bad, you’re right. The captains yacht in TNG was called the calypso as stated by sir Patrick Stewart

Also seeing the size of Cetacean Ops in Voyager would have been awesome. What if they could have told Voyager to "drop under or fly up" above the rotational level of the galaxy then fly counter wise to the speed of the galaxy's orbit/rotation to get home faster? Is that how Q got around the galaxy so quickly?

was often claimed in the show that Voyager didn't carry enough fuel or provisions for such a long trip, it was necessary for them to resupply in star systems, nebulae, and civilized worlds now and then. Plus, they are explorers presented with an unequaled opportunity for exploration. And stubborn Captain Janeway never loses an argument or changes an order once she's given her decision, anyone who doesn't agree with her decision to do 70000LY of sight-seeing can make the voyage in the brig or get off her ship.

@@pwnmeisterage you would be right, if 70,000 light years is in any axis going in the direction back to earth then yeah...I can still see it taking that long. But to see a Cetacean Ops on Voyager would have been awesome to see

Static lightspeed field? In Star Wars, they did something similar where it was used by the First Order Mega Destroyer to track the Resistance through lightspeed.

Calypso was Cousteau's boat. Makes sense.

I read the same book I think it was the one were the entire ship got pulled into the alternate reality

Michael Knupp Can you tell me the title? I’d love to read it.

Sorry I don't have it any more and can't remember the title

I remembered it it was called Dark Mirror it had both Picard's on the cover looking at each other

@@michaelknupp7425 gotcha, thanks a bunch. I've found it on Amazon and will give it a read sometime when able. :)

Is it not the same thing :D

Cursed content xD

We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. I'd say thats a big ol 10-4

interesting idea

The perfect drones to assimilate aquatic worlds and fluidic space.

Johnny, meat Jones. Sailer Jones.

Grady O’Grady 8472 is in trouble now

Because they were always making fun of the size of his tank.

Livingston outranks them anyhow. Whales are smart enough to know you don't mess with Captain Ahab's favourites.

And Patrick Stewart hated having a fish in a bowl.

D:

I'd actually tend to think they would, if they were still there: these'd be dolphins with escape pods (I'd tend to guess those'd be where to go when the bridge calls 'Brace for impact: ' ...smaller tanks, less slosh.) and force fields and intertial dampers that'd probably be damn beefy cause they..... live in water and breathe air? With Star Trek tech ...that they could operate, ....they'd probably be good till the rescue ships came. Since 'casualties were light,' I also assume the crew in general got off with maybe some injuries of varying degrees of severity, from the crash anyway.

@@OllamhDrab I found the blueprints online which show four escape vessels accessible to the tanks. But the Cetacean lab is part of the saucer section which means they would have had a rough ride in the saucer down to the planet.

Too soon man...

@@brett8481 There's upsides and downsides to being surrounded by water in a circumstance like that. But in general, if you were in a swimming pool crashing, you'd get hurt a lot worse if it was empty than if it was full. (And we may safely infer that in general the ship's complement didn't smack into walls at high speed anyway: kittycat seemed fine.) Also remember, they breathe air, so even if the water went away after impact, all they'd likely get from that is dry skin and maybe a backache.

I swear I just watched the episode this morning where Geordie asks the ferangi if he wants to see the dolphin lol

Very true, and I believe you are correct about the modular design. A large portion of ship interior was devoted to science labs and such. But there were great swaths left open for colony transfers, diplomatic missions, rescues and the like. Also it was built during a time of relative peace for the Fed so it was made with exploration in mind, not war.

meeeeee

Now i know that they (dolphins) were actually on the enterprise d all along, i love lower decks even more.