5 years later... Nero: Who wants to play Monopoly...? 2 years later Nero: NO *I* WANTED TO BE THE DOG!!!!!

RISK. That game can eat up some time.

There's actually a deleted scene that shows the Romulans were captured by the Klingons shortly after their ship was disabled by Kirk's father, which explains why they weren't around for 25 years. Admittedly, it would have been better had they shown the scene where they escaped, but it is somewhat explained in the movie.

First, deleted scenes don't count any more than supplemental comic because most of the audience will never see them. Second, it still makes no sense. Like I always mentioned about Guardians of the Galaxy: Who keeps the prisoners' vehicle at the prison? Also, 25 years and the Klingons didn't strip the thing down for the technology or at least use it themselves?

henchman: we can sing american pie...

So Bones in the Kelvin timeline is the EMH?

Travis Himebaugh It’s a reference to a scene from Teen Titans.

I thought true friendship was risking your neck to save a clone, and makibg a deal with a spirit to bring said clone back to life? =D

@Scott Sandler It does go a long way at explaining why Kirk is so friggin awesome.

It really does have almost nothing to do with Star Trek aside from the names. Also, how in the holy hell is Discovery supposed to be part of the original timeline? That makes no sense at all...

And he ended up being a better fit for Star Wars.

Yet somehow it's better than his actual Star Wars movie. Go figure

The Force Awakens but actually somewhat good*

InfamousCrimes that's not what my dad said

So how did they know when Spock would arrive when they clearly didn't when they arrived? I doubt a mining ship's computer would have access to the kind of data that could make whatever calculations would be required.

Lady Wanderer in the comic he didn’t want to Other members of his crew try leaving to Romulus but he didn’t let he shot down the shuttles he was mostly blinded by hate towards Spock

“There’s a simple explanation for that” -Gosei

But if it was that damaged how did they have enough food and air to survive

@@skibot9974 Replicators and theft.

They wanted someone who could bring Star Trek to a casual audience.

That's the problem with how some people think. Just make a good movie within the confines of the series. Do you think casual viewers knew who Khan was in 1982. Heck, I as a Star Trek fan thought it was weird idea to bring in a one off villain who's actor was best known for car commercials and a fairly silly TV show. They made a good movie and people came. Marvel has been proving that for the last decade. At best, most people had a passing familiarity with Iron Man and Thor. No one knew of Guardians of the Galaxy or Black Panther outside comics fans. They just made good movies.

+Loy Turns Indeed. it's the same thought process they had with the Marvel movies. Although they have potentially ignored more of the source material than Abrams & Co did, there was far less dissent from the fanbase, as no one really cared about the Avengers prior to the early 2000's.

It's also a case of the sheer amount of source material written over more than half a century by numerous writers. The idea that there's really one consistent narrative is more about fandom blindness, than anything else. There's also a history of various adaptations that differ from the source material and some of those changes being folded back into the source material (e.g. the Pratt-ification of Starlord). Comic fans are used to movies/TV/cartoons being different and are more concerned with the general personality and spirit of the characters being similar, along with being entertained. For example, the comic Tony Stark was never as irresponsible as he was at the beginning of the first film, but Downey hit enough points to be accepted. Chris Evans has perfectly performed Cap as a commanding bad-ass who's also humble and a little corny (but not too much). If there's one real problem with the Kelvin Kirk (except in Beyond) is he seems more in line with the pop culture image of Kirk than how he was actually portrayed in the series. Kirk actually had a number of serious relationships in his past and most of those women still harbor great affection for him. It's just their mutual careers (Kirk's real loves have all been highly educated and career oriented) pulled them apart. Most of his in series "man whore" reputation came from times where he used his charm to extricate his crew and/or ship from danger. Likewise, his recklessness was actually something that came later in life. Two separate references to his academy days painted him as a studious stick in the mud. He was so by the book, he reported a friend's mistake which led to him being passed over for promotion.

+Carl Rood True, Marvel Comics in recent years has made efforts to bastardise it's own work to accommodate the Movies, which is wrong and ridiculously short-sighted. Star Trek began around the same time as Marvel Comics 60's revival. The idea isn't to rigidly stick to a word for word rendition of the Source Material, but to acknowledge it exists. That you literally have decades of inspiration to draw from. Which they have willing chosen to ignore, in favour of a generic formula that only adheres to the narrative of the past 15+ years. Because _reasons_ The Star Trek movies understood how to mine their heritage, by plucking Khan from the obscurity of a standalone episode of TOS and creating one of their most successful films around him. Also not wise to generalise comic book fans. The long term fans have always been harder to cater to onscreen, than those that have only emerged since the MCU. A friend of mine has been an Iron Man fan since the 80's and hates how 90% of Stark's rogues gallery has been completely abandoned and his "generic anime" MCU suit. Lastly, original comic book Stark was a willingly immoral, alcoholic, weapons manufacturer. Who couldn't really have been anymore unlikable and self serving. This also didn't change for decades. The MCU interpretation is extremely modernised and tame in comparison.

I only watched a few episodes of the animated series, but that was one of the few good ones.

Within the Federation, credits. For external trade, gold-pressed latinum. I think that while you're in Starfleet and on-board your ship or at a Starbase, you don't need money as everything's provided for you. And when Kirk and crew stole the Enterprise, they were in a hurry and didn't want to draw attention to themselves by withdrawing all their savings.

Read a book called "trekonomics." The concept is sound and its far from impossible. But the fact that the writers frequently fall back on terms like "buying" or they introduce corporations and don't think about how they are contradicting themselves.

Wait. So is Spock the one who is supposed to save magic then?

Drax said Thor looked like a pirate and an angel had a baby. Therefore Thor is also Hope Swan-Jones

rogvortex58 seems illogical.

@ECKohns OR a Bard

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It's 3 A.M. here. Gotcha beat.

Who wants coffee?

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I think that was from one of the novels. Apparently the teachers gave him a commendation for original thinking, as well as a crapload of demerits.

Yes the novel was called "Kobyashi Maru". It's kind of an anthology with a framing device where Kirk, Scotty, Sulu, and Chekov are in a "no win scenario" but have time to relate their test stories. Scotty's is great because he knows enough about the simulator engineering to violate the laws of physics. He knew it wouldn't work in the real world. Chekov's is mainly about a different test he took after failing the Kobyashi Maru. Sulu's solution was probably the most politically sound.

Eamonn Deane I agree he’s perfect as bones ;)

Well Karl Urban is the best

2009 was alright Into darkness was kind of a mess Beyond was actually pretty good

indeed beyond was really good

They call me Jojo 11 (2009): OK Into Darkness: Fucking WEAK Beyond: Fucking AWESOME

Not really. As Linkara points out in the review, it looks more like a knockoff Shadow ship from B5

In a way yes but not completely.

@@gtsgreatteacherscathach5550 right. It's not a 100% likeness but it does have some resemblance to them

@@DeathGodRiku It's the long, black, spiky thingies. A Shadow vessel could STILL kick it's ass.

The Narada doesn’t look like a Romulan ship, it looks like a Borg ship. Actually no I take that back, the Borg’s ships are pretty simple designs like a cube or a sphere not that spiky mess of needles that they found in a junk yard and glued it all together to create their stupid piece of shit.

Because he saw where this movie was going and went another way.

My guess... Meeting Bobby Singer and discussing their franchises.

+wstine79 To have a pint, and wait for this whole mess to blow over.

+wstine79 It was just the next pub on his crawl route that will finish up at the World's End.

Wstine79 He was meeting somebody named Paul there.

I waiting for Kirk to find Jesus corpse floating through space. Also, somehow Spock become Funny Valentine and obtain D4C. Spock: Captain, it appear that I have taken the first napkin.

Kirk: That may be the Case, but the Romulans beat us to it! Quick! Mr. Sulu! Contact Scotty to have him Amplify the Effects of Spin Energy across the Enterprise! I will use the Steel Ball off the Red Shirt's Corpse to Enable Super Spin off the Shield Deflector Unit. We'll beat 'em with [TUSK A.C.T. 4]. This is our only shot!

I love 09 myself. You can tell it was made for a new audience, though. I think that's why some of the hardcores dislike it.

Wow. A school shooting joke that's actually funny. Well done.

Why would Klingon simulations go gaga over a Satrfleet Captain lol

But why Q? He's easily one of the most annoying characters there. Worse than Wesley imho because he's omnipotent, so he should be able to help more than he actually does.

nope! I love ds9. I actually prefer it to next gen. it had ongoing story arcs and Gul dukat was easily the best villain star trek ever had.

My man

I agree with you. DS9 is superior because of its consistent storyline and the ramifications that individual episodes had on the overarching plot and universe as a whole. And the ever evolving sometimes-foe/sometimes-ally Dukat added an element that no other Trek series had. All the other Trek shows had characters exploring the universe. DS9 had the universe affected by the characters.

DS9 is like TLJ but less controversial.

Agreed! Amazing, DS9 is. You know what Discovery needs? WORMHOLE ASCENDED SISKO SHOWING UP!

From what I've seen, I'm a bit disappointed that it's not more like Star Wars the Old Republic's, where the characters (regardless of how you design them) have arcs and dialogue. I do enjoy Star Trek Online's OVERALL plotlines, though I feel it gets a bit too fanfictiony in parts and it feels like it lacks the personal touch of a the player character's own storyline. Sure, that might remove some of the idea of us controlling our own character, but maybe at least something for the Bridge crew?

If I Recall correctly the Romulan Faction, the First officer gets a short personal arc. Unfortunately it's so secondary I'd almost forgotten about it. I do love the idea of the bridge crew getting Story arcs. Missions that unlock the more you use them on away teams/Bridge slots. I like How STO gets random bits of star trek lore (Eg. Dyson sphere, those parasite aliens etc.) and has expanded on those well.

And how Boba Fett is an uber-badass.

Not really. As someone who loves TFA I can pretty much understand what's going on easily.

Adam Sherman As a stand-alone film it’s fine. But for me, thinking about it with the previous 6 films is frustrating. Going from “our heroes took down the Empire” to “our heroes are in a worse position than from the start of Episode IV” feels jarring.

Anime should not require supplementary or afterword reading. Same with video games.

To be fair, that does occur with the Prequels, and as Segundo mentioned, the original trilogy too. (And I totally agree with you).

I always wondered if there was a list of dates and locations. Stardate 3287.2 - Flying pancakes invade Deneva - Kill with UV light (don't need to blind everyone) Stardate 4202.1 - Giant Hollow Log will be destroying planets in system L-347 - Blow up a starship INSIDE it. Stardate 4307.1 - Giant space amoeba sucking the universe dry near Starbase 6 - Blow it up with an anti-matter bomb.

Part 2. =)

On the subject of asinine decisions, here's a quick lesson: if your're gonna rip someone's ideas off, at least change the freaking names and appearances. AND don't dig your heels in about it. If you're confused about what I mean, look up "Discovery lawsuit".

In the old timeline they are usually built in space in shipyards.

Vulcans talk a big game, but there have been Vulcan pricks even back as far as TOS. Even Spock was a bit of a racist prick towards Humans sometimes, and that's not even getting into Solok from DS9.

The bullying is established canon, dating all the way back to the episode "Journey To Babel". It was expanded on in the animated episode , "Yesteryear".

The danger of a hyper-rational mind is that it can rationalize anything.

I don't know if it does Discovery any favors to compare it to STV.