I don't know you but honestely this scene in TOS seem to be far more dramatical and theatrical that in SNW...no matter what you can't change the beauty of TOS

Boooooooo!

Kate; you mean how they shamelessly ripped it off because they had no original ideas? I fixed that for you.

@@StewBedazzle It's okay to acknowledge nostalgia.

@@F4m1LyGuy10 nostalgia is not synonymous with having no original ideas nor does it excuse it.

1966

And looking amazing doing it! 🤩

Also appreciated by Dr. Martin Luther King. One should check out that interview.

THAT is cool! Your account about your 90 year-old grandmother also puts the lie to the claim that "only young males who are nerds" like Star Trek. My parents--especially my father--loved the series when it came out in 1966, when they were in their late 40s, and they introduced me to it (they also became model rocketeers, flying Centuri, MPC, and Estes model rockets, back then).

My whole family love the show

Bless you and grams love is power❤❤❤

I agree. It was one of my favorites.

@@williambrown6585 When I first watched TOS in the UK, around 1970, this was my favourite episode.

Sort of "borrowed" from "The Enemy Below".

Indeed

@@steelers6titles Yes it is a WWII submarine movie set in space

The romulans were testing starfleet. Poking and proding to see if their enemy had grown complacent in the past 110 years. In kirk, they found they in fact had not.

(In the SNW timeline) the Romulan fleet had been summoned into the Neutral Zone by the Romulan captain's insubordinate lieutenant during the 2 hour cease-fire. They were likely out of sensor range prior to that.

Absolutely agree! Great writing and directing. And one of the best parts of that exchange was the simple mouth movement of Kirk as he was about to ask the Commander one more time to abandon ship, and then stops and accepts the Romulans decision. Brilliantly done! (2:55)

I also love the way racism was addressed on here, Kirk addressed it seriously and quickly, he nipped it right away with authority! Star Trek was always ahead of it’s time period it was diversified in race, gender and nationality before the realistic world, especially in the USA! Watching from USA 🇺🇸

@@murieljames4022 I agree, one of the best!

Watch Strange New Worlds S01E10 ;)

You don't know for a fact that Gene RoddenBerry based this episode on the film "The Enemy Below". What a horrible accusation.

Craig Simpson this made me laugh pretty good.

Mark Leonards amazing!❤❤

could have

I think he was called back because they had his ears, saving money

in a different reality he would have called pike friend.

I agree. I love his acting.

It's unusual that he allowed the camera to linger in close-up on the right side of his face; he usually arranged fight scenes, etc. to be shot from the left side, which he considered his best.

He saved a valuable personnel report so that he could return it to Kirk. He is capable of no other feelings in such matters.

@@Sky_Guy later on he would have had other feelings. Remember how pissed he got at Valeris upon learning of her betrayal

​@@Sky_Guy😂😅

@@Sky_GuyPerfect!!! :)

Naturally, it was the only vegan menu available from the Vulcan menu from Spock's favorite restaurant, "Vinnie Vitale's Vulcan Sandwich Bar". The best veggie burgers this side of Vegamite Tavern of Alpha Centauri.

Agreed, great explanation and thoughts of this episode…

To me almost all the star treks do

Yes we do

The SNW episode was pretty good. Still, as this clip demonstrates, when it comes to the re-created scenes the original was superior in every way.

@@michaelhall2709 Better in special effects? 🤨🤣

Me too.....

This version was much better

I agree. I have come to see Leonard as like Lawrence Olivier in his dignity and style. Pretty good stuff.

And the hills are Greener Green in Seattle, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

Mark Leonards dignified voice and appearance shone through, even in these circumstances ❤❤

This was Sparta vs Athens or Japan vs the US/UK. The death before failure and battle suicide philosophy.

doctorwho0077. Of course no fan/viewer cries over the hundreds of dead Starfleet personnel at his hands. They're just nameless Earth Shirts. One TV cop/military/space show death is a tragedy, hundreds a mere abstract statistic. Very true on Who Too.

could *have* called

Thats why they rehired him as Spock father .

And after she clicks the buttons to turn on the hailing frequencies, she turns slightly to the camera with her hand on your hip in a relaxed pose is badass.

Good all kindsa lighting. They were pros and really did the details.

Me too

Seriously. I love the concept that Pike had to be gone so Kirk could save the day against the Romulans.

@@colleens1107 same. As soon as I saw what episode they were retelling I knew it had to be Kirk in the chair. I may go home and watch the episode again, IMO the best finale out of all the newer Star Trek series

So Kirk’s most important action may have been to stop a war.

Please....nothing Kurtzman and the band of idiots running the series nowadays ever do can be anything close to good. If you think SNW or any NuTrek is worth watching, I've got some beach-front property in Kansas I can sell you.

Just watched it to sooooo goooooooood

For killing Spock?

@@SMD2x For NOT killing Spock, by not writing those letters to those future Starfleet cadets.

@@jiminycriket gotcha 👍🏽

@@jiminycriket but we all knew once he saw what him changing the timeline did, he was never going to go through with it

Did you ever see when this was remastered in CGI effects awesome

Space dust is hard to vacum up.

@@bryancooper2247 we don't watch those

lots of rubble, a mineralogist's dream

Drywall vs explodium to wit Star Trek would use for another two centuries.

@Splaticus Blah: There's nothing wrong with that but look at "Orville" and tell me there isn't plagiarism going on Big Time like all of MacFarlanes crap.

@Splaticus Blah There's a difference between plagiarism and insperation.

It's a shame more people don't pick S.T.D. apart like this.

I think it was Shatner' s best performance, but I consider The Doomsday Machine to be equal or better. Why? Because Windom, Shatner, Nimoy with a dash of Kelly and Doohan knocked it out of the park.

Absolutely. Daniels direction, Kaplan score. Way way out of the park Grand Slam was The Doomsday Machine.

I’ve lived my life by it as well. It’s about doing the right thing no matter the circumstance or consequences. The Romulan commander couldn’t allow himself to be captured. Kirk knew it too

@@matthewcaughey8898 - True. After he says it, Kirk looks like he is about to say something, but stops and silently watches.

@@stevensenator4804 Kirk understands. Without condemnation or approval. He knows it's simply not his decision to make.

My favorite. Tied with Who Mourns For Adonis. I'm a sucker for Greek mythology and the melodrama completely works there

Specter of the gun

"Search your feelings...you know it to be true!" "Surely you cannot be my father...as my father would know that I am a Vulcan and therefore have no feelings to search." "..."

Noooooooooooooooo!!!!

I have a bad feeling about this thread!

Mixing Star Wars and Star Trek lore is heresy......but it's good heresy. Kudos, lol!

@@alfredovilla8560 - Use the Force, Frodo….

atSHADOWBAT Another Matt Jeffries design, along with the Klingon D7

@@markreeter6227 I once read that the original Romulan warbird model from "Balance of Terror" was lost; when a "Next Generation" episode that involved time travel was made, the production crew had to build a new one, but it looked right (they had the original drawings to work from, if memory serves).

Yeah actually painted with bird wings...

Yes kirk showed uncharacteristic gentlemanly restraint in that scene. 😂

Come back to my quarters, I have Sirian Brandy.

Yes, me 2

Me too!

There is probably the complete episode on Shush or Dailymotion?

In TOS it seems that they filmed as if it was in black and white which is how most of us watched it when it came out. In color the shadows look odd but it does bring a nice feeling of watching it the first time

But ... that's not logical. :)

@@mnirwin5112 Leonard Nimoy was great at a lot of things...running gracefully on camera was not one of them! I remember him running through the ruins of Cestus 3 in "Arena"...awkward...although I guess you could argue the character was trying to move with speed and caution in a logical way but still...Kirk did it better, bouncing and rolling and flipping his communicator at just the coolest moment...

@mo zack Only the sound editor knows for sure . Keep in mind the appox' 12 man band was still intact. Themes can be tweaked especially while the budget is decent. Because I hear some higher pitches in the "Enemy Within" which are not present in "Balance of Terror."

Kirk thinks, "Man, I never thought saving the negatives from the Star Day party would pay off so well! Best advice Christopher Pike ever gave me, one beep at a time!"

Nice way to show the confidence they have in Kirk. Was a great touch

I agree with you about the editing damaging the integrity of the episode. Especially the final scene where Kirk stands in the door frame backlit. It was a powerful set-up, and it's gone. An abomination to cut it.

@@DavidDeal Exactly. Great example. Every scene is a framing/composition work of art.

I will add that the musical score for this episode is also worthy of a full production motion picture.

mark findlay What? Duck and cover doesn’t ring a bell?

Life was serious then people were getting lynched for the color of their skin and their rights as a human being the vietnamese Conflict was in full swing so was the cold war and a president was assassinated by a secret government yeah simpler. This why Gene Roddenberry created Star Trek.

@@tech83studio38 Thank you.

In TNG Picard marries someone and they use the same dialogue as Kirk here. Love it

That Chapel also had Kirks funeral in the 3rd season episode The Tholian Web

In the novel version of this episode the wedding does actually take place. Kirk has the couple come to the bridge and he marries them there. This was during the 9 hours the two ships were close to each other but not moving. The husband still dies at the end. It was dr. Mccoy who suggested that kirk marry them

Her second chin was even sexier.

@@Chuck_Hooks You don't know what a second chin is. See Mama Cass, or Aretha Franklin, Sidney Greenstreet or Charles Laughton. That tiny hint of one entirely disappeared as she got older- happens all the time. I say she was sexy every millimeter, head to toe. You got no class nor taste. You think Barbara Streisand's nose is too big to be sexy? Take a look at her pics from the sixties! You're a putz!

@@THE-HammerMan She herself admitted on camera her face got bloated from being an alcoholic, fool.

Matthew Hamersly She was pretty hot. Too bad she was dealing with her addiction. Was it because of the real #metoo that happened then, not the fakers now days who sold their bodies to make millions, rathen than slept with nasty producers just to have work like these women were forced to.

@@jefferydraper4019 If she was jumping on casting couches(etc) to get roles, she would've had better paying roles no problem I figure. Probably just went with the flow during those years; the party crowd. Some folk had no will power to stop when needed and with a weak constitution should never do the coke(etc) in the first place. And the alcohol?...well, if you can't function waking up and going through your day without starting to booze it even before shower & breakfast--sheee-it! THAT is a weak person. SO, gorgeous as she was, she carried a lot of baggage as they say. Too bad. Knowing none of this then, I sure had a crush on Yeoman Rand growing up!!! She's said(I guess) in interviews that the "bloating" of her face was from alcoholism; Heck, I thought it made her much cuter than off the booze and thin-faced! I still don't understand "problem" partiers. Doing less or stopping altogether was never a problem with me. Just stash the cola and save it for another time. Stopping the drink was far easier than that. That's why I can still party in my 60's if I care too, and have all along...but I control IT, IT doesn't control me. Like Clint said with gritted teeth, "A Man's Got To Know His Limitations"!

Julian Bristow Great point! Well said!👍🖖

You and I are of a kind in a different reality, I could have called you, Friend.

Romulans=Prussians!

beek beeker me too, as a teenager! Only I could watch on two UHF stations back then in central Florida. One in Tampa, and one in Orlando! Syndication was awesome!😃👍 I can also remember watching the original airing on NBC as a very young lad in the late sixties!😉👍

That is why the Romulan ship bridge was made to look like that of a submarine with a viewer that looked like a periscope.

@@MFM230 lol... I never thought about that!

There must be 100 comments that say that.

@@drwho6908 - I don't know. I didn't go through all the comments before saying that. But I DID see an interview where Roddenberry said that that was what he based this episode on.

@@robertgantry2118: No Sorry, between this video and others I've seen about 100 comments saying this. I know it's true and it's my favorite TOS episode.

Thanks SeaDrive300. I actually put the whole chapel scene in, but the time exceeded 5 minutes and I could not post it. I picked the end of the chapel scene, because I wanted to include at least part of it. Live Long and Prosper !!!

Charles Ross years ago I purchased the DVD series of TOS(The Original Series). A few years ago CBS & Paramount released a remastered Blue Ray version with an optional updated special effects feature. It was the best investment I’ve ever made in entertainment! Well worth the cost! Now the price has gone down. I highly recommend it if you haven’t already purchased it! Certainly nothing like it on the market today!😊👌🖖

Todd, Have the Original Star Trek series in the 60's aired versions and have to say much prefer the 60's aired version much better over the enhanced versions. I do have the enhanced versons as well, however, my preferance is the 60's aired versions.

It is the whole set that is excellent. They go with the original Dr Who, Quatemass series. There is also one other short series A for Andromeda (mum told me the story) Number of others of cause but no one story in isolation.

Does anyone remember the scene where Spock pulls Stiles out of the phaser control room and a couple of men in environmental suits are seen rushing into room to contain the coolant leak? I have this episode on DVD but this scene has been deleted.

The whole episode is like that, just exceptionally well made in every dimension. Best-ever episode.

@@Rep0007 I'd say it's one of the best. For me, The Doomsday Machine is the best, mainly due to the musical score and the acting. But this one ranks right up there.

@@jessfrankel5212 The Doomsday Machine itself was such a lame prop, just a fake looking papier-mache cone or something, that it disappointed me even as a kid. And the acting by captain Decker wasn't that great, he kind of overdid it... seemed like a blubbery alcoholic. And the concept itself is too far-out... Balance of Terror stays within the bounds of what could reasonably happen with an alien civilization, so it's much more convincing.

@@Rep0007 Agree to disagree. Granted, the DM was a paper-mache windsock, but when I first saw the show--I think I was five at the time--it scared the hell out of me. The sound it made--how did they do that, anyway?--was also good. Personally, I thought William Windom should have earned an award for his performance. Captain Queeg having a frontal meltdown... As for the concept being too far out, it's sci-fi, and within those parameters, pretty much anything goes. I don't think anyone ever did an episode like that before Star Trek, although there were enough novels and comic books that talked about Doomsday machines. In any case, far-out concepts...I do the same with my novels. As long as you make it believable to the audience, then you've done your job.

@@jessfrankel5212 what would Kirk and the Romulan Commander have done if during their battle the Doomsday machine showed up. They would have had to team up to destroy it. And the Romulan Commander did have nuclear weapons. Maybe one was as powerful as the Constellations impulse engines overloading was and it could have been sent down the maw

@doctorwho0077 Kinda like having the flush valve for your crapper located in the kitchen.

Almost as much a weakness as the Federation's use of 'explodium' in their consoles.....

Well, at least the Romulans didn't just stand there frozen while everything crashed down around them like in the "freeze frame" at the end of that Police Squad episode

I’m no construction tycoon, but I recognized that too ! 😂