Uh, Babylon 5?

Foebane72 it's the space station that cannot be destroyed. Usually other station takes 1 or two ships, sometimes stations explode for no reasons at all, but not Deep Space Nine 👍

Watching those battles... it's clear why the Defiant was such a favorite. Seeing it go toe-to-toe with the Negh'Var... God damn, that little ship has teeth, man. Starting at 3:20

I mean, interstellar war so yeah....

thats why i was disappointed we werent going to get a DS9 movie

@Jonsin 1459 I could watch these a lot. Something about these battles in space were just some much better than crap out now.

oh... i will >:)

Yea

I think it got destroyed at the end of the Generations movie?

I'd of preffered a DS9 movie

Halo Kincaid that was enterprise d

Ah! lol So many letters!

D was destroyed at the end of Generations, not E.

Ikr torpedos should't work that good against shields

Yeah, DS9 battles almost always lacked the shield effects. Always pissed me off. Voyager on the other hand, has perfect shield effects on every battle. TNG has it sometimes, and sometimes it doesn’t

@@pedrowolffenbuttel9763 It pisses me off that it looks like an army of cavalry running around; it isn't a good idea to speed in a big capital ship! Nor is it good to try to destroy a ship with a volatile warp core when it is so near your own.

It came down to production time and costs of doing the shield impact animations. Shields are more effective against torpedoes than armor.

@@pedrowolffenbuttel9763 Shorter battles, less CGI work, more 'splosions. pretty much why.

Eh it's just Chinese replacments

ye they were never consistent with what the ships were able to withstand, kinda bugged me

They actually stated I believe in the show, that they learned how to tune weapons to match Dominion ships shields after they studied that captured fighter.

Cardboard Sliver This. Also it’s the fact that in universe torpedos have always been kinda shit against shields. Klingons use disruptors instead of Phasers which also have a noted in universe explanation of ruining shields. They “disrupt” their shield patters all together. However from that point on with the shields done it does still seem easy to crack the hull armor with old as fuck birds of prey. But hell. The Miranda class is out there and I thought there was an excelsior class in there somewhere.

That was Sisko and Smiley...

Bill Bolton t’was obviously a joke comrade

I agree with you

You are a great star trek fan juste gg

Exactly in the Klingons one, ds9 shoots almost as if it had rapid fire, and when the dominion show up, it shoots so slow and not precise, while the ships weren't even moving as fast as the sklingon ships were before.

Yeah, I mean, all I saw was Birds of Prey and the Defiant firing and wrecking whole Dominion fleets, and whenever the Federation fields larger vessels than the Defiant they get blown by either Jemhedar fighters or Breen defensive platforms.

"Little???" :p

Which one Is that episode of DS9?

The bigger Klingon-Bird of Prey (Cruiser/Battlecruiser, TNG) are far stronger, equivilent to Galaxy/Sovereign class. }}:-)

tlhIngan yeah but im just saying you always see them get wrecked in battles. I love the k'vort

Sign. I love the K'Vort too. }};-)

Yeah they are essentially the red shirts of star ships

It was awesome after the Dominion was introduced. The first couple seasons were a little rough.

If i was a Klingon I would want the D-7 just for the cool factor.

Thank you!

Good call!

Romulan ships are big, but weak in contrast to KDF and FED ships. }}:-)

Only in the Dominion war battles, every other occurrence made it pretty clear these were ships to be feared. At least the equal of a Galaxy class in power.

This battle was done with models, not CGI (apparently when Ronald D Moore told them what he wanted, he got a bit of a 'LOL ... oh shit, you're serious?' back from the company, but damn if they didn't find a way to make it work and not break the bank). That money shot of the Defiant doing the whole 'Move bitch, get out the way...' and smashing right THROUGH one of the Jem'Hadar ships when it refuses to do so, still really stands up.

@@christopherofarrell8665 Actually, this video is a mixed bag of studio models and CGI. Examples of CGI: 6:29 The BOPs and the Galor (not sure about the base) 8:54 The Runabout, the Attack Ships and the Ice Asteroids 11:49 The Runabout and the Dominion fleet 12:06 The Wormhole (always was) and the Dominion fleet 13:36 The Defiant, the Attack ships and the Rotarran 16:11 Operation Return 18:05 1st Chin'Toka 20:18 The Invasion of Cardassia 22:14 2nd Chin'Toka 23:17 The Valiant, the escape pods and the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought

@@FekLeyrTarg Arch, sorry, I was replying to the wrong video file - I thought this was the video of the battle in The Die Is Cast :p Yes, DS9 certinally used more and more CGI as time went on - and made it possible to go bigger and bolder and made the Dominion War possible.

Jamin Taylor Exactly. In TNG we saw the Galaxy-class Enterprise firing numerous phaser and torpedo volleys! Especially in desperation against the Borg. A Galaxy-class when it means to KILL, is a fearsome opponent. The Galaxy-class ships should have been slaying Dominion and Cardassian ships left and right!

In TNG the galaxy class was garbage

Scimitar was a Reman ship, and their warlord was basically Human. Hence the disrupter/photon armament. In addition the Romulans and Klingons did often have photon torpedoes on their ships. Quantum torpedoes are not very maneuverable, and unlike photons are never seen to home round corners. Defiant has all its primary weapons facing forward as that is the aspect it is designed to fight at, so yes, just having quantums makes sense. Enterprise-E also only has quantum tubes facing forward (unlike Defiant, it has a lot of weaponry facing other ways though) - but flying straight at a ship with 52 disrupter banks, over 20 torpedo tubes, and SECONDARY shielding is generally considered 'suicide', hence most of the battle the quantums cannot be brought to bear, which is why photons are mainly used. Troi didnt miraculously locate a cloaked ship. She located Shinzon, who must have left some residual sub-space artifacts in her brain after he psy-raped her. Obviously Shinzon wasnt floating around in deep space, he was on his ship - so she fired torpedoes straight at Shinzon's skull knowing they would be 'intercepted' by the cloaked ship.

inter arma enim silent leges ;)

THAT's what MAKES DS9 THE BEST TREK. It had MORE than enough of BOTH FULL CHARACTERS dealing with WAR BATTLES

IKR

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Its a mash up, that wasn't actually seen in Way of the Warrior Pt. II. That's from "Dramatis Personae" where the Klingon ship came back from the Gamma quadrant infected with the paranoia virus, and the main characters all started plotting a mutiny against each other while Sisko make a clock......

You can

It's meant to miss. Kira gives O'Brien an order to shoot 6 photons across the Cardassians bow.

What episode Is this?

I can... just because it's look is familiar doesn't mean they stole it from Star Wars xd

The Klingons was much cooler and could out drink anyone in the Empire. For the destroyers the Klingons ordered them on the dark side web but don't tell nobody.

If the Klingons didn't attack Deep Space 9, the Dominion War battle could've been a bit easier

Pretty sure ds9 was just using spray and pray tactics. Much after than individually targeting and you're pretty likely to hit something with 30+ ships swarming you

Or maybe tactic. Between visible ships can be another ones cloaked . So spred fire to "free space" maybe should be only this. Chance to hit cloaked ships.

In the episode "The Way of The Warrior," DS9 vs the Klingons. It is mentioned during the episode that they never had time to test the new weapons array. Sisko says their is no time like the present. That's why torpedoes where firing in all directions. By the time the Dominion attacked the station everything had been tested. DS9 didn't waste any shots in that battle.