haha, love how TIE fighters do many times more damage than Star Destroyer's primary turbo-lasers

A quantum torpedo would make short work of a star destroyer.

I keep hearing how powerful star destroyers are. Megaton, gigatons, teratons. These are numbers some fans invented. George Lucas said in a History channel interview that he never came up with any details on Star Wars technology he wanted it to be fun not technical. All you have to do in this debate is watch both Star Wars and Star Trek. In Star Wars Episode IV . Hans Solo says to Obi Wan " That's impossible the Empire could not destroy the entire planet. It would take at least 1000 Imperial ships with more fire power than I have ever seen. Of course he was not aware of the Death Star yet. In the Star Trek episode, The Doomsday Machine. Kirk and his crew encounter a giant robotic weapon, that is leaving a path of destruction into our galaxy. It is destroying solar system after solar system. The Enterprise took four direct hits from this machine, before their shields gave out. That was enough fire power to blast a planet into rubble. That would be the fire power of at least a thousand star destroyers. As far the as the Jedi and Sith lords are concerned. Yes they are powerful. However the crews of Kirk's Enterprise and Picard's Enterprise have dealt with aliens far more advanced and far more powerful than anything I have seen the Star Was galaxy. Yes the Empire is big and has big ships. But remember what Yoda said, " Judge me by my size do you?, You should not" . I like both Star Trek and Star Wars. However as you can see I am partial to Star Trek. I guess I always will be. Live Long an Prosper Star Trek and Star Wars .

someone needs to watch some star trek. Federation weapons can Target vessels at over three hundred thousand kilometers away. they can Target vessels without dropping out of Warp. in Star Wars it is implied heavily that the entire Starfleet would not be able to destroy a planet. in Star Trek a half-dozen alpha quadrant vessels destroy 33%of a planet's crust in a single volley. in Voyager they have a torpedo that is capable of blowing up a small Moon. at least take the time to watch Star Trek before you can imply that their technology is so weak.

just when you though star war win the federation use time travel to own yo ass

love how the rebels are randomly there

As one physicist said, "All the shields featured in various science fiction would not work that way. I'm sorry, folks, the only thing left to you is really thick armor." So, both would have no shields.

actually enterprise size is near to star destroyer

Hell yeah they do : ''A cutting beam was a beam of directed laser energy which was used to perform a cutting function. Borg starships were known to have the ability to generate cutting beams of great power, strong enough to slice sections of a starship, or even a planet, open with great precision.'' Link : en(DOT)memory-alpha(DOT)org/wiki/Cutting_beam

Nemoidian Captain: Ship destroyed from within. Shields worked perfectly. Imperial Captain: Shields collapsed after withstanding several minutes' concentrated bombardment from ENTIRE Rebel fleet. Worked perfectly. Ackbar: Shield destroyed via sabotage. Possibility of penetration while shield was still active NOT EVEN CONSIDERED. Seriously? Can you not understand the difference between shields collapsing under fire/being sabotaged and enemy weapons just being able to pass through? Wow...

Spock would have made a badass Jedi.

''Star wars has no teleport tech....they use lame shuttle craft to reach planets.'' Transporters require very precise information about the transport site. Without accurate scans, a transported subject is likely to materialize partially inside another piece of matter (the ground on a planetary surface, or a bulkhead, wall, or door in a starship). This would be instantly fatal, so sensor-jamming can effectively block transporters even in the event of shield failure.

Unrealistic--the Star Destroyer would surely have multiple times more firepower than all of the TIE Fighters combined.

@Idazmi7 Oh I know I really like Star Wars but I mean sure maybe the shields are a little weaker but a x wing can't shoot through a star destroyer's hull so how can it go through a galaxy class ship's? the hulls are both metallic

"Only Borg and Klingons, actually" Aren't you forgetting the Dominion, the Krenim, the Hekarans, the Kataan and anyone who can generate "phase-resonant pulses"? Quite apart from enemies' ability to exploit weaknesses in them, UFP shields are some of their least reliable systems (which is saying a lot). Imperial shields not blocking transporters is FAR less likely than UFP shields not blocking turbolasers.

Fortunately, transporters are easy to disrupt. Deflector shields, ambient radiation, and even weak magnetic fields (as seen on the prison asteroid in ST6) can easily prevent transportation. The Federation will therefore be unable to board our starships in combat. Sensor-jamming equipment can render transport virtually impossible by keeping the transporter operators from being able to find safe destinations for their troops.

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Transporters cannot function through shields. Although Federation cultists repeatedly point out that transport has indeed occurred through shields in the past, it must be noted that defects, seams, or known weaknesses in the shields were exploited in these incidents, rather than a new method of simply transporting directly through a full-strength shield. This means that nothing can be transported in combat unless the target vessel's shields are dropped first.

@MrImastinker Not to mention that turbolaser fire is rated at 200GT per shot, according to the tech manual. The feds don't have anything that could match, let alone repel firepower of that level.

@Idazmi7 Exactly and they really need to make a movie on this lol it would be funny watching the Enterprise take out like 10 destroyers

Here is a more realistic video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8-AdKtkvreoc3k.html Sorry for the bad animation I used the mouse pad on my laptop.

Star Trek has red matter and shields the Star Wars weapons are nothing compared to the uss enterprise and all the allies and villains in Star Trek would out number and destroy the empire and leave the rebels. I think the rebels would help Star Trek because the represent peace and would help destroy the empire

Startrek beats the hell out of starwars shit anytime...

It's not "baseless conjecture" when there's a preponderance of evidence supporting it: UFP: Shields penetrated or otherwise exploited on a regular basis by many different species, requiring on-the-fly patching of tech whole by SF personnel. Galactic Empire: Every shield performs as designed without fail. EVER. Hmm, I wonder which shield tech will be harder to exploit...

...Or maybe they never need to be modified (in the story we see) because they've already adapted to everything anyone has thrown at them... Besides, the other points in my comment make this one irrelevant.

Pity this is all so inaccurate. TREK Technology is *so* much more advanced than anything and everything in star wars. A single Federation Starship would decimate any taskforce that could realistically be raised by the galactic empire. The torpedoes on Fed ships are 60,000 times more powerful. Fed ships actually *can* see what the hell is going on (and make spontaneous course adjustments and maneuvers while moving FTL, except in *one* episode of Voyager, wherein they found a way to do it anyway). And don't even get me started on the obvious advantages of replicators and transporters; one such was even demonstrated against nothing less than the Borg. So, class, what we ought to have enough common sense to know is that any *serious* and realistic scenario would end in seconds with a single torpedo vaporizing *any* craft of the empire...*without* exception. Hailing Frequencies Closed. :>

LOL. Star Wars ships have their shield generators *outside* the shields in a nice ball. Star wars ships use manual aimed WW2 Bofors type guns whereas in ST they get the computer to aim. Star wars has no teleport tech....they use lame shuttle craft to reach planets. One quantum torp beamed inside Star Detroyer and its gg. Star Wars is just Space Opera....they don't even try....

And I refuted all of your points, Pragmatist. They are typical misrepresentations of the facts based on extended universe material. The limitations of Star Wars vessels are QUITE CLEAR in the movies... which is why you Star Wars fanboys steer so far clear of them wherever possible. It's quite obvious that the weapon damage and shield capacities of Star Wars vessels is almost laughably low compared to Star Trek, which has been the point all along.

Ant star wars ships have no shields to speak of, a small starlight destroys a super star destroyer for crying out loud.

Blasters are not lasers. Besides, a massive blast from the Death Star would annihilate the Enterprise. And Ion cannons, proton torpedoes, concussion missiles, and other weapons utilized throughout Star Wars would be too much.

"Which if you ever watched even one SW movie you would know that is false." Maybe because SW shields are in the gigaton range making superior to star trek primitive shield tech.

When in warp drive you can shoot at other ships, and maneuver. Not to mention you don't need a very large and aperiantly slow navigation computer to go anywhere without either: A) Getting so hopelessly lost that you will never get home, ever. B) Flying your sorry ass right into a star, planet, or asteroid And acording to several fan made data bases for SW the X-wing should be able to destroy the death star in one shot. Which if you ever watched even one SW movie you would know that is false.

i wonder why SW fans always siding with the Empire when they compare ST to SW? Dudes the Empire (vilains) failed, DS1 destroyed by a X-wing, DS2 destroyed by the Millenium Falcon and the Emperor been killed by Vader...It would be a lill more fair to compare the Alliance to the Federation insted (good vs good) or the Borg to the Empire (vilains vs vilains)

False because Borg ships use lasers. So we know that Fed ships can be affected by lasers.

Um, not really. Remember those things called SHIELDS???

Lasers... don't penetrate Federation sheilds

Oh, another thing. You are a liar. Yes, calling you out on it. Let's watch the video again. General Ackbar, looking over his shoulder, gives the order to fire on the Super Star Destroyer. IMMEDIATELY afterwards, two fighters destroy the shield generator dome. There was literally NO TIME for the "entire rebel fleet" to fire on the Super Star Destroyer. Most of the Rebel Fleet was out of range of the Super Star Destroyer anyway. There was no "several minutes" of bombardment. It was 30 seconds.

Oh, very. Thank you for admitting defeat so graciously for once. LMAO Yes, Pragmatist, it WAS 30 seconds. I don't know why you are so surprised. Queen Amidala's ship's shield was knocked out in a few seconds of barrage fire from one of the Trade Federation vessels. Then they survived for about one or two more minutes of fire, while the shields were down. Shields in Star Wars are INCREDIBLY easy to take out. All you have to do is destroy the shield generator, which are apparently flaky at best.

I already replied to that post with refutations that you haven't answered. If want a direct response to the challenge, though... SO your big claim to fame is that I referred to a period as "several minutes" which was represented by only roughly 30 seconds of screen time. Again, whether movie time is directly representative of story line time or not is a matter of conjecture. Only the series 24 has ever claimed to have a direct relation between them, but fine, call it 30 seconds, then. Happy?

No response? to my challenge here, Pragmatist? Seriously? I called you out as a liar. Please refer to my previous post in this thread, Warsie.

I no right?

wrong they use Durasteel for their hulls which has some Neutronium in it. But Durasteel can also be crushed by trees as seen in RotJ

your top speed is 1/4 of our slowest speed and the weapons do not go up that high

Star Trek, Star Wars Universe: Before Sith Lord Kylo and Marshal Jedi Ren: The day Luke and Leia were born. The Imperial Fleet stretch out across the Galaxy: Corrupting, dominating over Stellar Nation Planets. Governing and Training Imperial Sith Lord's across the Stellar Universe, Kylo is not alone. In the Outer Realm of the Helios Ionosphere: a Space Dome Guards the Stellar planet entering, or leaving. Stellar Citizens must be a part of the Imperial Republic, Intruders will be dealt with, even the Imperial so confident: He states "not even a Jedi could get in". Rebellions Republic is Few but a might team: against an Gigantic Military of Imperial Dome Feet. Ren must form an Alliances with Star Fleet: Star Trek Enterprise and train; New Jedi Knight Trainees since Luke is in the spiritual Realm. The Kylo the New Imperial Sith: stretches towards the globule Planet Earth To Colonize a New World Order: Galactic Sith he promote himself: Remember Kylo's words: "All Marshal Jedi's and Sith Lords must be destroyed". An unequal Balance: of the Force: Like Luke said "this is not over": Keep in Mind:

Now they can go make up more numbers to proove that Star Wars is better. Dramatic reinactment: No NO NOOOO! STAR WARS IS WAAAAAY BEETTTER! Because.... erm... the Y wing can go 400000000000000000 MPH! YEA! AN IT'S WEAPONS ARE AT A POWER OF um.... um... um... 500000000000000000000 gW yea yea! AND WE HAVE A GIANT FLOATING CIRCLE IN SPACE YES STAR WARS COULD TOTALLY WIN!

STAR TREK IS THE BEST!!!!!! I'M A HUGE TREKIE FAN!!!!!!

Star wars ships use neutronium for hulls and armors. star trek canon confirmed that star trek weapons cant penetrate neutronium. So yes star wars ships are more advanced that primitive star trek ships.

Im dedicated to star trek but star wars tech is thousands of years more advanced. Based on there timeline star wars has had ftl thousands of years before the 6 films. So there tech will be far more advanced than the 1701-D