I love my Gagarin Class Battlecruisers with all the variants.

Do not acknowledge Kurtz trek. It is blasphemy!

there is that telltale star trek game coming out

@@qw3rty629 I'm more interested in being free to run around ships and controlling my character myself than simply select story options.

Fair

yeah, a Party RPG would fit Star Trek well, i mean, we see it on STO, but well, it's still an MMORPG first, so no Voiceactors for our Crew our ourself and not really a branching dialogtree

Honestly? Strip out a lot of the grind of the on-foot portions of STO, and it's the best ST game I've ever seen. I love the starship combat.

The Shepard and the Gagarin are just remarkably clean. Looking like a direct descendant of the NX-class certainly doesn't hurt. I remember when I saw her in the Discovery Tutorial, I said, I want that one. She's just pretty.

I agree. STD has some truly awful ship designs. The Discovery itself was a discarded design for the original Enterprise (and rightly discarded, at that), and most of the others don't make any sense. The bridge on the underside of the saucer? High-radiation warp engines passing straight through the saucer? Come on guys, you're just making up random shit.

Agree. In fact, the Gagarin hull design is more sensible and practical than the original Constitution and Galaxy classes. Sleeker, sturdier, simpler and more compact. Perfect for a combat oriented vessel. The other well done ship design of Discovery is the Buran. Also one of the best tanking ships in STO.

I'm personally not so sure Yuri would be happy about his name on a "battleship" (more like a destroyer, IMO) over an exploratory vessel.

@@deusexaethera That I don't agree with. The radiation itself is still kept away from the main body, but the only thing that would go through is the warp field which has to envelope the entire ship anyway. I've never been a fan of the whole pairs of nacelles and line of sight rules though. I follow the thinking that Roddenberry came up with those just to erase the old Franz Joseph designs from the franchise. Now having a saucer section with negative space in it ticks me off. Having the bridge on the underside of the saucer is slightly irrelevant in space. But Means a lot if you ever have to crash your ship. And don't get me started on having an actual window for a viewscreen.

“The Gagarin finds herself in the same situation, one from century prior, luckily this time, it shall not be the end of her tale…”

I got some great news for ya friend: it *is* from STO. (Just not from the game, it’s from the lore blogs)

@@atlasworldbuilder8246 Right-O and I loved those blogs. Though Doodledibob has a point. It would've made a nice breather mission (and commercial for the ships) to actually have our Captains cruise into Yard 39 as the initial recon to verify the area was safe for personnel and see all those classic ships, then come back later to see the new stuff they made. And there are a LOT of people who would just be satisfied having the lore blogs accessible from in game instead of going to the website.

@@atlasworldbuilder8246 What 3Rayfire said. The lore entries are not found in-game, and even then, a lot of them would be better if they were missions we could play through instead.

Sad part is, all this lore which I'll be honest is quite nice dispite how lacking in any logic it really is, still nice to have detailed lore. Actually says a really amusingly sad thing about the federation and its poor resource management and even worse design department. It basically says "our design teams ran out of ideas over 100 years ago" and needed us finding a load of obsolete ships and a obsolete facility which would have taken longer to repair and then upgrade to modern standards than it would have to build a whole new facility, probably several times over. Oh and those ships which we already had the full technical blueprints for in the public database (litterally they are so old, school kids would have had access to their blueprints) have allowed us to decide that we should modernise something that was never all that effective in it's own time rather than make something new and actually effective. But then we still haven't realised circles are not an efficient shape for ship hulls. As for using those ships, none of them would have been usable. The system wasn't lost instantly, it was evacuated, any ship capable of spaceflight would have left even if they had to tow it. It was a shipyard, not a space dock, you don't keep completed ships in a shipyard. Either they would have been incomplete, or partially disassembled for refits, either way, none of them would have been warp capable, nevermind combat capable, and even then they are all over 100 years out of date, you could take a dozen of them on with modern a runabout and it would win.

@@cgi2002 no? Shipyards are usually made to be modular for easier refits or retrofits, a fleet of about 20 construction oriented vessels could probably finish retrofit within a year. Industrial replicators can be brought directly to yard 39, which then can be used to accelerate construction speed without having to deliver the parts via starship, also fusion power plants aren't anything new, they have been used to produce antimatter for centuries. Sure the efficiency ratings have changed since, but the industrial replicators can be run sparingly while a new power plant is being constructed.

Especially considering the large number of the early Story Missions that got gutted. But I would say definitely that one of STOs strong points is unified designs between the factions.

The best thing about STO is it doesn't get to establish Alpha Canon.

@@dreadnought-ai A lot of old STO content was garbage, though. I'm not sure why so many people clamour for the return launch content, considering how rushed out the door STO was.

@@ffnbbq - oh yeah I totally get why they removed them, it’s just when the devs have mentioned the possibility of reintroducing them “revamped”. I mean the hobus supernova, undine infiltrator controversy, and the subsequent Klingon federation war (which pretty much set up STOs lore) doesn’t really get major acknowledgement in the early missions, which then quickly moves on to new content. Although I don’t know how much the old missions touched on this either.

@@dreadnought-ai Trust me when I say it's mostly forgettable. The one half-decent mission was the one where you go back in time to stop Ambassador B'vat from changing history, and I bet a lot of people remember that because it was the only mission Leonard Nimoy voiced. It's a good candidate to be remade if they ever get the Strange New Worlds actors in, because boy did Nimoy sound old.

You would like for this design to continue for a long time? Please explain.

I hope the devs are drooling over what they'll get to add to the game, if that series has good writing & good stories.

Have to admit, the writing and internal consistency of STO is better than that of all the Kurtzman NuTrek shows. It's also more funny and entertaining.

Really like this ship along with the Europa class

@@LordElpme Europa is also very pretty. I’m also a huge fan of the Buran-class.

This is in part because of the limitations of the 1960s series. Everything else built on that, and often didn't change as much as they could have in terms of weapons and ship design. In some of the newer iterations the weapons look more... scifi, with lots and lots of little phaser pulses coming from all over the ships, porcupine style. However, in some older Trek, most notably The Next Generation, the Star Fleet ships really did have weapons basically duct taped to their sides as an afterthought. They built exploration vessels and science vessels. The weapons were there as a necessity to help them fulfill the rest of their missions, not as the main point of the ship's designs.

They seemed to prefer quality over quantity. Every weapon on the ships drew from the same power source, so numbers were less important than firing arc coverage. If you have two energy weapons firing at the same time, if they are powered by the same warp core then they have generally the same power ceiling split between them. With the Galaxy class even if she had one torpedo tube each fore and aft those tubes could launch ten torpedoes at a time, which is a lot better than the Connie Refit firing two every four seconds. They tended to underplay their tactical ability as a matter of dramatic and narrative impact and so the heroes would have to think their way out of problems rather than fight their way out, but even the TOS Enterprise could glass a whole planet in a couple of hours.

@@3Rayfire problem then comes, why such small power cores, your not limited to 1. It's a massive ship (especially in the galaxies case for their dominion war variant). Fit a 2nd or even 3rd warp core, in turn letting you add far more firepower and sheilds. Make a battleship/battlecruiser an actual warship, not a luxury liner that just happens to be armed like they always do. Combat ships don't need all the fancy science stuff, you have science ships for that. The Remans got it right with the schimtar, that was a warship, enough firepower to beat anything it couldn't outrun, and then an enhanced cloaking device to boot. Even without its fancy radiation gun, it was a fleet killer. Closest the federation ever came to an actual warship was the Defiant class which was more of a big fighter than a warship still, everything else was too big with too little firepower for its size.

@@cgi2002 I would say because every core requires an equal draw on your fuel supply. You'll only ever have the deuterium and antidueterium you can fit in the hull (bussard collector replenishment not withstanding). Starfleet is all about long range deep space exploration, so efficiency is very important in their engine design. Curious enough the Hayes guide for the B'Rel Bird of Prey showed that it featured a cross connected twin warp core stack. As for the Scimitar, fantastic warship, but I think it's worth considering that the very opening salvo of the Battle of the Bassen Rift knocked out the Enterprise's main power, She fought that entire battle on Auxiliary power. Don't forget about the Prometheus which is was actually highly effective with shields and firepower above her size, and the Akira class which was both a torpedo boat and a carrier.

@@3Rayfire true but that's why o said your designated warships. A long range scout/science vessel has different core requirements than a heavy duty battleship. A battleships not designed to be efficient, its designed to be brutal. And what says you can't have both. Your warp core is like any other reactor, it's not always operating at 100%, hell it can be entirely shut down when it needs to be. So build a ship, stick 3 in it, one is for day to day operations, runs the ship and let's you fly around been a boarder patrol craft or escort ship, basically a light cruiser, efficient and long range with reasonable fuel costs. Now you know your in a high risk situation, you power the other 2 up, you now have 3x the power. You've gone from been an fuel efficient light cruiser to a full on heavy brawler of a battleship. Hell they don't even have to be full sized warp cores, the federation has miniature versions for the runabouts, or even a defiant sized core in a galaxy class. Just something to give you that extra firepower when you really need it. But then the federation is also stupid in how they use their technology, always have been. They never think to pre-launch torpedoes for example, that is a self guided cruise missile, turn it on, set it to remote activation and throw it out an airlock before the fight starts, you now have a remote control missile swarm that can attack from a seperate vector. Or if you really want to screw with your enemy, load a shuttle full of them. Have it fly just outside your sheilds keeping you between it and the enemy, and have it randomly transport torpedoes all over the battlefield. Or you know the moment an enemy ships sheilds are down, transport a kg of something into their antimatter storage, saves you firing on them. Same with infantry combat, why does no one just use transporters to kill/imprison your enemy all the time. Hard to board a ship if you get instantly transported into the brigg. If they use inhibitors, start playing with the artificial gravity. Soon a boarding action requires more protective gear than you can reasonably carry while still been able to fight unless your the Borg.

Designed by Dr. John Bigbooty.

@@saberdogface Bigboo-TAY! :)

@@ricconway8719 Yes! That's right! Big boo-TAY! Bigboo-TAY!

Don't know about the Canon ship, I think what you're referring to exists in Star Trek online as the "deimos pilot destroyer"?

I don't think we've ever been told. It doesn't appear to be Starfleet, so where did the synths get it? It has a lot of similarities to the Romulan vessels seen at the end of S1 of Picard, so maybe Romulan in origin?

@@dreadnought-ai that is indeed the ship I was referring too, thank you for letting me know!

those are the Synth Frigate Ships from Children of Mars or the STO "Dungeon" Synth Wave where you fight against them as a Holodeck Simulation

@@enz025 No problem!

do you know where the visuals are from

Thank you! I worked with Daniel and the STO devs to make them. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbyYgtKIuqi4mpc.html