I really liked Shaw. I almost shouted when he died.

I screamed when he got shot. He was a terrific addition to the cast and a terrific character arc. He propped up Seven and contributed to her growth and eventual promotion.

Is this a joke? Are you serious? This was the dumbest character ever written. Senseless actions and confusing statements. Please explain why this is good writing

@@burntsauce9136 He had potential. I wish they would kill off Raffi Musiker. The most annoying and pointless character on the show. When her scene comes up, I have to fast forward.

The classic characters worked but also the format . Filming it as a big movie worked . Putting dynamic cliffhangers at end of every show worked also

Great post

I had a similar experience 🙏

A touching comment 🙏

That got me in the feels, bro...for me drawing is sometimes my only real friend... And sometimes even today...(especially today?) I’ll put in a good TNG and feel not so alone.

My parents divorced and my dad went through a rough patch with alcohol. However the next generation was like a warm blanket every night when I watched it. When I close my eyes I can still feel every detail of the room that I watched the show in. Farewell team. It's bittersweet

Same. 100% agree.

Not on tv, and sorely absent from positions of power and influence. Anybody who can't define "woman" probably would have counted 5 lights - after lecturing him to use CFL's in his torture sesh.

I agree we need more positive male family role models, but not Patrick Stewart. As I understand it, he was a major factor in the creation of Picard seasons 1 and 2. I've heard him in other interviews. I think he's easily dismissible as a person. His ORIGINAL incarnation of the Picard character during TNG had some superb moments. Of course I don't know the details of what happened, but I also believe he ruined some of TNG prior to season 3. In my opinion, the best Star Trek father is Benjamin Sisko. No contest there.

For me it's Sisko, but I agree

While I agree with the male role models, Star Trek has ALWAYS been MALE oriented with EXCELLENT role models for MALES while the women who are portrayed as competent and professional have often been there as eye candy until DS9. This changed with DS9 and Voyager, but the old format was returned in Enterprise. Discovery finally broke the mold. Your comment ignores the fact that a) Picard NEVER wanted to be a father which made the interaction with Jack look forced and b) that Data, Riker and Geordie are better parents than Picard will ever be while Sisko puts all of them to shame. What's worse is how daughters are treated in P3. Jack Crusher treats Alandra LaForge as his personal dessert with little regard for her person other than sexual. Meanwhile, Troi and Riker are so much in grief that their daughter Kestra is literally and figuratively kicked to the curb and barely mentioned. Just poor writing on so many levels. I won't go into the fact that Picard, Riker, Data, Shaw, Jack, Beverly, Seven and Vadic as leads made this season of Picard the WHITEST EVER returning the series to the 90s where POC where background characters and secondary roles. That there was no secondary reader or proofer to actually call this out lead to a mostly white cast shooting at Black and Brown actors in Episodes 9-10. Just horrible. And when I point this out, I am told to go watch Discovery because TNG/Picard was made for us aka white males. Just wrong on so many levels. We were banged over the head for seven years about what a great person Jean-Luc Picard was, but P3 made him into a "victim" while many people ask themselves how Jean-Luc didn't contact Beverly or find out where she was in 20 years. No on so many levels.

That brought memories :) I, honestly will say, there are some stories that could still be told. The cast and crew want to continue, and if the stories can be just like this, I say, Make It So.

Perfect ending. If they stopped here it does the series justice.

Same for me.

Yes sir Anders I laughed cried cheered I was an emotional wreck...

Me too 🤫

It’s not really weird to anyone that this isn’t The D or Picard? I mean cannon wise none of the other galaxy class ships look alike on the inside. I don’t know, can’t turn off my brain.

You must admit the saucer section crashing was cool. I watched that scene many times!

@@alejandronopasanada5302 What do you mean? Picard is an Android and the D is rebuilt? You know that thought experiment the Ship of Theseus?

@@alejandronopasanada5302 It's still the D's saucer section. What I thought was weird was how the bridge looked like it did pre-Generations for nostalgia's sake. It's all modular in this world, and I'm sure they reused the D's original bridge module (at least, that's my head canon).

@@mistere9099 they did use the original module designs with the designer himself, this was highlighted in Ready Room.

Of course O'Brien saved the day. Goes without saying. That's why they didn't have him in the series: he'd have had it all worked out and sorted by episode 3.

Of course. Screening foreign bodies from the body with the transporter should have been standard operating procedure by the time of _TNG_ . Not doing so was responsible for the _Lesser Decks_ pilot. But of course, this would prevent several plots. Considering the central importance of the transporter system, they should have also regularly checked the systems for bugs and hacks, to prevent such schemes as what the Borg do here from ever happening, especially considering the frequency with which Starfleet seems to get hacked in modern media. Again, it's smart planning on the part of Starfleet if they did do this as part of their regular maintenance, but it also prevents the story from happening. Likewise, properly screening against people like Founders and Undine (Species 8472) from infiltrating your navy.

@@BNuts In the episode I mentioned with O'brien called Unnatural Selection he mentions the transporter keeps a record of all transmissions for security purposes. I guess Starfleet security didn't look at them, or maybe that is what made Ro suspicious. Or the changelings got to the logs. Either way some credit to the Chief would be nice from Starfleet.

@@nagillim7915 Miles was the boss.

I 100% expected the announcement of the transporter fix to be attributed to O'Brien

Dude, I legit started sobbing when he came back. I love everything they did, but that scene, by far is my favorite, and just having the character BACK.

"Okay...we go with Data's gut!"

Crazy world we live in

A world where Mandalorian became the best thing Star Wars had to offer (at the time) is already pretty crazy in my book.

No doubt, crazy! This season of Mando sucked and Picard was actually genuinely good and I hate new trek.

Exactly how I felt. Picard beat Mando this season. Paramount should totally give Terry his own show or even control over Trek itself.

What Mandolarian? Season 3 is more like Womandolarian.

Keep that man away from star trek forever

I think the format helped this. They filmed it like a big movie. Every episode ending on a dynamic cliffhanger. It was frustrating as a fan to have that anxious anticipation to see the next show. But that's a good thing, isn't it.

Kurtzman. Not Even Once.

Not occasionally ...

Dumb? Lol. 🤡

Totally. From Data's cut and paste to Vadic's T1000 moment to the D's unveiling and handbrake turn over the heroes, those episodes will go down as the greatest hat trick of all time.

Nothing, nothing as far as I know slipped out. That's incredible. The entire script of the rise of Skywalker was put online.

I think the reason why nothing slipped is in part to the last 2 seasons being so atrocious that no one cared about season 3 enough to leak it.

​@@TurdFurggison amen

@@TurdFurggison So basically it was a massive twenty episode version of never let them know your next move? 🤣

@@kev30631 Several months ago, Levar Burton spilled the beans about the Enterprise D bridge being rebuilt. He was at a convention on stage and just started talking about it, like he forgot it was supposed to be hush-hush.

new writers. knowing hollywood the old writers/director got promoted and after having killed tng, and literally killed picard, they left it for someone else with a shoe string budget and we got this. and i'm sure they are furious about it, here they are trying to kill Hollywood and this guy comes along and makes a good season with strong characters and tells a good story, and to make things worse he doesn't make the men incompetent idiots who are useless without a woman. what the hell is this guy thinking, if he keeps it up he will never work in that town again.

Alex Kurtzman got bored and pawned it off on "the help." Turns out "the help" knows an infinite amount more about how to make a good sci-fi show.

Alex "Franchise Killer" Kurtzman didn't touch season 3. THat's what. That MF'er is poison to everything he has ever touched from Fringe, to Spider-Man, to Star Trek....he's a piece of shit.

Terry Matalas needs to be given Kurtzman's job

They brought in writers who loved trek, but had their own vision of how it should be. Matalas worked on Voyager and Enterprise. He wanted to return to that universe for the fans.

Yeah… I got tired of Raffi’s character in season 2. It seems she got so better in season 3. But yeah…she does seem "shoe-horned" in.

Since Sirtis now lives in London, I would think that she insisted Troi have a decent character arc to make the trip to LA worth it.

My favorite is the phaser/torpedo salvo Beverly dropped on the cube. Everyone looked at her and she says "A lots happened in the last 20 years". Brilliant

@@SarahRenz59 In other words, it's Sirtis playing Sirtis.

That was an awesome shot.

@@SarahRenz59 I just cant get over her politics. She is soooo tribal. When she said Star Trek is not made for "Republicans" I just felt sorry for her.

Or rather he liked it when Spock said it, and started using it himself as he was inspired by it. Not really stealing it for himself, but propagating it.

Everyone keeps saying it was a Spock line but I SWEAR I remember Kirk saying it.

The line works best in the original Klingon.

Kirk did recite the quote but he always gave Spock credit for saying it originally. Kirk to Saavik in Star Trek II: “As your teacher Mr. Spock is fond of saying” There are always possibilities” Star Trek III when Kirk was talking to Sarek and he suddenly realizes that Spock transferred his Katra to Dr. McCoy: “There are always possibilities, Spock said.” Ironically I can’t remember a single time when Spock delivered the infamous quote.

@@bratton79 ah, that’s right. I remember now. Maybe he never said it on screen but it was attributed to him.

Stephanie Manley: You loved this episode because you are easily entertained just like the rest of the idiot majority. I am sick of the friggin' Borg! The storyline should have been more about the Dominion (including the Jem'hadar and Vorta) working with the Federation to stop the rogue changelings. But instead we have to once again involve the Borg who did nothing more than weaken and discredit the rogue changelings.

Of the new characters? Definately. The dipshit from Chicago was great XD

Todd Stashwick absolutely nailed it imo. Heads up btw this Sunday on the Shuttlepod Show channel, they'll have him on for an interview 🤗

@ki-roasted I wonder why they didn't bring her. I was fine with Tuvok though, he's my favorite Voyager character, so I'm a bit biased.

@ki-roasted Tuvok had also a great connection to Seven. Like the doctor and Janeway. But on a emotional way it had to be tuvok i think. Janeway raised a daughter, the Doctor had an equal, but Tuvok was her mentor

Agreed

You made the right call.

A _Ross_-class. It looks like the 25th-century update of the _Galaxy_-class.

That was my thought too, O'Brien as part of a skeleton crew would have been better

You could do a spin-off show with Geordi LaForge and Miles O'Brien, "This Old Ship". It would probably get better ratings than pretty much all the Abrams/Kurtzman Star Drek.

If this is going to be out on director's cut Blu Ray then it may be the first such box set I've bought in many a year.

I had a similar fear and that was the reason I rushed yesterday to watch it after I nearly got spoiled on the fate of the crew. Still glad they managed to live through it and everything. While the Big D herself got the fate she really deserved.

And OMG... the shot of the Enterprise hovering above Jack, JL, Riker and Worf? Holy sh!t. Amazing. They pulled out all the shots on this one. The nitpickers will nitpick (I will too eventually), but right now? I'm just happy.

I'm glad the writers got that people are sick of having their "expectations subverted" and see every beloved character miserable and ruined. Sometimes an uplifting ending is still a good thing.

@@BlazingOwnager I agree, although I was still angry they killed Captain Shaw, Admiral Shelby, and Ro Laren. Shaw was such as ass at first but started to like him near the end. It was an unnecessary death at the time, but did give more meaning to Seven's promotion. I do feel like after Game of Thrones and Walking Dead became so popular for killing many characters off that TV show writers seem to think that in order to be good, characters must die and it really isn't the case.

I wasn't, because Dave Cullen has spent weeks describing the last two episodes as a wonderful send-off that would leave a massive grin on fans' faces, and I was grateful for it!

I was afraid they were going to blow up the D...

Jack has a charisma and charm

Troi redeemed herself this episode by using what I call "The slug people from FTL" powers, where she could use emotions like a sensor ping.

@@BlazingOwnager Damn. Now I want to go play some FTL.

Yeah, and he gets to the bitch not one but TWO Girl Bosses! The whole bridge is women now that I think about it. He's the token male LOL.

Honestly, get the feeling he is going to be like a more charismatic Neelix.

He knows that because he has Altan Soong's memories.

@@sebastianschmidt3869 - oh. I guess that’s why he’s in therapy.

so, it was all for the lalz?

@@Sam_T2000 deanna shopping for vacation spots while Data was in overtime was hilarious

@@xheralt No not Lal it was Soji and Dahj

Weirdly it was Raffi and Worf that got to me.

When the crew walked onto the bridge of the Enterprise D at the end of episode 9 I got a bit choked up.

Could I start from season 3?

I also didn't finish season 2 and I was pretty much done with new Trek at that point but I'm glad that I jumped into season 3. It was really well done and a good send off for TNG characters.

I teared up at that scene between Jack and Picard. In fact, I had watery eyes several times throughout this season. I don't think I've ever gotten so weepy over any other piece of media.

I don't go to startrek conversations but I heard the stars get paid very well. They will all still be together in some sense at least

I would say studying TOS > TOS Movies > TNG series would be a better case study in how to bring back a beloved franchise

@@aaronbryant8074 I do agree. However, I was a child went TNG started so I had little context of what happened before. I did see TOS around the same time as TNG. I was always a little disappointed with how the torch was past from TOS to TNG. Generations was supposed to be that film, but TNG was already well established by that point and Generations, while I like it, could have been a much better film.

I hope star wars is looking how it Is done

I would say simply studying the first two seasons of Picard would help you bring back a beloved franchise, by doing the OPPOSITE of what they did.

You mean after 2 seasons of being spit in the face we now need to praise them for giving us crumbs from the table? Not a chance.

I am very disappointed in S3 overall. For one thing, the Borg have been completely overused and overdone. All 3 seasons of Picard have involved the Borg. Why do the writers feel the need to keep involving the Borg? Could we not have had at least one season without the Borg? I am sick and tired of the Borg in all honesty. Plus it also weakened and took away all credibility from the rogue changelings. The changelings are far more superior than the Borg due to the fact that a Changeling cannot be assimilated. There should also have been a Dominion presence (involvement) in S3 of Picard. The story line should have been about the Federation and the Dominion (including the Jem'hadar and Vorta) working together to stop and take down the rogue changelings without any Borg involvement whatsoever. I also found the "Jack Crusher" story line very boring and uninteresting. I could care less about Jack Crusher and Picard having a son. I wanted to know what was going on with the Cardassians along with the current state of their home world, "Cardassia" along with seeing Garak again. Outside of Worf, I am very disappointed that there were NO characters from "Deep Space Nine" in S3 of Picard. I really would have liked seeing either O'Brian, Ezri Dax, Doctor Bashir, Kira , Garrak, or Quark again. Sorry, but this season which looked so promising to me in the beginning turned out to be a major letdown for me personally in the end. Plus I have higher standards than what most people do and I am not easily entertained by most of today's TV entertainment. I am also a non-conformist who usually does not like what the majority of other people like.

I rated S1 & S2 of Picard on the same level as She Hulk they were miserable and depressing experiences. The only way I can describe those three seasons is like car crash television , utterly awful but you can't help but look to see just how bad it is. I expected to detest S3 and it was such an unexpected surprise and very entertaining. As somebody who used to love movies and TV and has practically stopped watching most new things due to how terrible they are this was a real treat. Unfortunately the tripe will most likely continue and it will be a long time before we get anything good again

This is exactly how I feel as well

It will be sad if they don't learn their lesson from this .... And hire Terry Matalas immediately!!!!

And it didn't feel scripted. It felt like friends playing a game.

Don't forget the post-credits scene.

Well, they all could have been playing Anbo-jyutsu...

@@VaughnJogVlog And I love how they lingered on the shot while the credits played. Beautiful.

The TNG bridge Crew always played Poker on the tv series

I've always praised the art direction for that series. Making the NX-01 look advanced by our standards but still less so than what we see in TOS was very well done.

Enterprise had some issues, but it never disrespected the lore or the fans, like Kurtzman trek does. I miss it and those days.

@@lordamin2085 it feels like 75% of Kurtzman Star Trek is garbage and the last 25% feels like Star Trek. Strange new worlds might feel derivative but I do like that shower and the third season of Picard was amazing even if it buckled occasionally with the end order like frontier day, being illegal to carry out.

Lmao

I don't get it 😏

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 its a reference to an episode of the next generation, i think it was "the naked now" data was reading a dirty limerick he didn't understand but never got to finish, it went: there once was a lady from venus whose body was shaped like- and that's where he got cut off. pretty sure the end of that line was "a penis" but then comes the question, what follows the rest of the limerick?

@@tuseroni6085 I'm joking.

Same here. I've posted on a few other forums etc about a possible ENT season 5-7 animated series. I really think this could work and would solve the problem of the cast looking way older than they were in season 4, would be nice to have them do the voices though and aim it at a young adult/adult audience. Prodigy and Lower Decks are proof this can work and are much cheaper to produce.

I could absolutely live without Raffi, but I'm game for everyone else on that ship. In an interview the show runner said that if they did the show, they had some way to involve Shaw, too, so here's hoping.

I'd like to think of it as the 8th season of TNG and forget about Picard Seasons 1 & 2!!

@@BlazingOwnager Yeah Rafffi can go.

@@JuricksEnterprise There's a season 1 & 2???😂

Always liked that character.

Should do series

@@lafeil they set it up

Yes but the choice in 1st Officer was CRAAAPPPP.

I kinda wish the Enterprise G is a bigger ship, the tradition was the flagship was always supposed to bigger, better, larger, hence why Star Trek Online made the F the largest in the fleet

I rewatched ENT last year. I'd put it above VOY but mostly for seasons 3-4. The first 2 seasons are rough in a lot of places, especially with the whole Temporal Cold War nonsense kicking about.

@@VallornDeathblade I will watch it once more via the high seas since I canceled my Paramount+ the second after Picard Series finale. Thanks.

Hmm, I grew up with TNG, but my dad grew up with TOS, so that's his favorite series. TNG absolutely is my top series, Voy next I guess? TOS a very close third (it suffers from 60'sness, but the movies are fantastic, and ST V is my favorite Trek movie), ENT after it, and DS9 last.

@@apreviousseagle836 Yeah my mom introduced me to TOS first when I was a kid on KBHK TV44 at 10pm (for those from the Bay Area) and that was the only way I didn’t have to go to bed. I’d fall asleep on TOS. So, although TNG was the series on when I was a kid, TOS will always have that place in my heart cause of ma. TNG, I grew to love in my teenage years. DS9 and VOY in my adult years. You know a lot of people didn’t like ST V, but I actually loved it. Definitely top 3 for me ST II, ST VI and ST V. I’m starting ENT again now so maybe my rankings will change but I’m glad I got to see the TNG cast all together again (on the same bridge) as well as a proper send off for Enterprise-D.

You're thinking linearly. Q may have died but that doesn't mean he can't still turn up. The Q aren't bound by linear time. This Q may just be an earlier version of himself before his appearance in season 2. Q can literally transport himself to the beginning or end of the universe whenever he feels like it so there's no requirement on his appearances to line up chronologically with the internal continuity of the show. I guess really we've only assumed that each of his appearances to date have been linear with respect to the timeline but there's no reason that Q would have to follow an episode order. He could have been bouncing back and forth along the timeline this entire time.

Star trek legacy?

@@nagillim7915 Well, Q is looking older, which is confusing for us linear folks.

@@bumblebee9337 - he does that on purpose. 😅

@@nagillim7915 This would honestly be right in character for Q. He loves playing mind games with those he considers “limited.” Makes sense.

It's a beast. It is projecting a planetary shield too. Last line of defense for Earth.

you must have been watching the mirror version episode of Picard

Or the part when Jack yelled "It's Jacking time!" and then

"Subvert expectations"

No lightspeed ramming here...

Best part was when he went on to create Jackass and all the wonderful things they got up to and filmed.

The S1 thing was just so stupid, I don't even count that as canon, and I get they had to at least hand wave it away in S3. So for me, S3 is the band-aid on the gash of S1's nonsense. Not a perfect solution, but good enough to stop the bleeding.

Unless they have a selection of exocomps or their more advanced versions on board. So automation by ships systems, repairs by exocomps and for a limited time, do operate with a bridge crew only. Just some food for tought :)

Exactly. Just like in The Search for Spock when Enterprise got hit and all automates overloaded.

@@jkdbuck7670 Nah bro the automation system was nonresponsive before they got hit. Which is why they could not fully raise shields. Then once they got hit it was knocked out. That was B.S though as there is no way in the world that firing two photon torpedoes should have over loaded that thing considering they actually turned control over to the computer a few times during combat in the original show and it had no problems.

@@captainmartin1219 True. The self destruct worked!

Yeah I thought it worked fine. We've seen before that starships can work with automation for limited periods of time. It's just for deep space missions a larger crew is required.

I just suddenly have this STRANGE urge to watch 'Return Of The Jedi'! lol

GERENTEX: Aren't you dead? TRANCE GEMINI: I got better.

Same. This has to be the end, full stop. They're all in their 70s and 80s for god's sake.

I think they needed a post-credits scene scene where Jean-Luc is sitting in a room explaining to Beverly and Jack about his friend-with-benefits back at the Chateau!! 🤣🤣🤣

I like 7 being a captain I didn't like calling the titan the enterprise g

Liked seven of nine as captain. Don't like the neo constitution. But i think it would be more fitting for her to get the voyager B that they teased us with. But damn I didn't see seven of nine being capn of the enterprise.

@@Designsecrets enterprise G deserves more a bigger advance ship.

@@Designsecrets Agreed. The Titan is NOT an Enterprise level ship. My second quibble is that they kept Rafi. She was one of the least interesting characters on the new series. They could have easily Elnor instead as ship's security officer like how they did with Worf. I don't mind Hurd but her character on the show is painful.

YES! For a second I also thought they might have named it the USS-PICARD! lol

They blew the last episode

@@Arcadia1701 how? What exactly blew it?

@@Jiub_SN He's just an unhappy troll. If anything in the last episode was bad, it was the ease of the cube destruction, the ease of transporting them out, but this is always a problem with fictional shows.

@@Jiub_SN well they never explained why the Borg (or how) were in cahoots with the Changlings or what that floating head was that Vadek used?? The Borg queen is like injured? By what? Who? She says ‘oh you left me to die’ what? Who are these Borg? Did season 2 Borg not happen? I’m lost. The Borg cube is in king range sensors despite being in the system? The whole fleeet is attacking one space station for like hours? What the hell are those shields made of?! If they can repel that kind of firepower! The borg queen is stuck in a wall more like alien resurrection than anything else. She even ends with ‘nooooooo’ 😂 Jean luc saves Jack by saying ‘I love you’ and a flashback of all their time together - over the past week 🙄 saying all sorts of nonsense like I was lost until I found uou - despite decades of the opposite from the series. In fact Jean luc only became weak, self te reflective and traumatised after Patrick Stewart decided to give him his own real life backstory. Urgh. Literally no one else from the federation shows up to help - just starfleet. Klingons? Andorrans ? Anyone? The federation is made up of hundreds of planets. Beverly is named head of the new? Starfleet medical. Ummmm what? Jack is ‘fast tracked’ through 4 years of rhe academy??! That’s nonsense. The rhe final blow - renaming that god awful and ugly Titan an enterprise! What a travesty! Would have been better to use that moment to roll out the new odyssey class F (instead of mothballing it after what, 15 years? Doesn’t make sense) OR refitting the D with a third nacelle and cloak! (Linking back to AGT - that would have been cool!) The the final poker scene? I mean it’s good but it’s literally the same ending scene (and shot) from AGT…. Look I’m glad the season exists but the ending was a miss. The writer just Couldn’t stick it

Yeah I'd like to know who the borg queen is . I thought there was only one borg queen and the one in ep 10 wasn't the same one from last season so who was she ? But I liked the way they gave a nod to Battlestar Galactica with the plot

The shout out to Kirk's enterprise and his legacy was super appreciated.. HMS bounty? That bird of prey is legendary for a reason.. they did alot of stuff right.. TNG can rest now.

Great comments.. Dave Cullen is a bit of a windbag, and here you cleanly and succinctly said it all in this post. To Thank you!