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@xxxlonewolf4911 ай бұрын
Correction, the 'emblem' was originally for Enterprise ONLY and all the other ships had other emblems.
@90lancaster11 ай бұрын
I enjoy how they look over Trousers, this is not that far away from Polaski's costume. look
@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe830710 ай бұрын
ah its a long shirt you are ment to wear pants with it!
@yuki-sakurakawa10 ай бұрын
You just jumped from the TMP to TNG, without even a cursory mention of the monster Maroons (TWOK red tunic with coloured turtlenecks)-my favourite. 😂
@JunkBallMedia10 ай бұрын
@@yuki-sakurakawa I had a short section on them, but since it didn’t tie to Theiss, I just skipped ahead.
@EnigmaticPenguin11 ай бұрын
We were robbed of seeing Worf defend his honour to the other Klingons in Heart of Glory while wearing one.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
But we did get to see him in the dress uniform version, in Season 7’s “Liasons”! Riker even told him he looked good in a dress 😄
@alejandronopasanada530211 ай бұрын
I hope when they inevitably reboot TNG and they use writers who have nothing but contempt for the fans like STD, they have a STD Klingon fight and in STD fashion when Worf stabs Duras in the neck and it shows slow motion, then the camera pans down and you get a little peak at the ol double dong. Just for you. Double dong and quad sack.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@alejandronopasanada5302 dude at least a large portion of the fan base quite likes Discovery, and we’re now in an era where we have writers like the ones on Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. The Kurtzman boogeyman isn’t hiding in your ready room, chillax, put down the raktajino and replicate a nice soothing Tarkalean tea and a Risan doobie instead 🖖😄
@alejandronopasanada530211 ай бұрын
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated I don’t get any of that goofy animosity people who like it versus those that don’t get into. It’s an IP at the end of the day BUT let’s be real, they said what they said about the fans and they had Klingons using the bathroom on screen with two streams. I don’t know why jokes about that are not allowed without the projection of being bent out of shape. It’s you my dear, it’s you. Touch some grass and get some double dong.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@alejandronopasanada5302 I mean my mistake if you’re not as hostile towards -Pepe Silvia- Alex Kurtzman as I thought, but it’s hard to guage tone in text and I fully agree that we should be allowed to like and dislike whatever we do, I for example think the Animated Series is terrible (though I’ve been loving the Very Short Treks)! I haven’t heard anything about anyone saying stuff about fans, what’s that about? Personally I can’t say I have any opinions about seeing Klingons have a wee, and if I find a hot Klingon lady with dual disruptor barrels who’s into Earth women I’ll be sure to give your suggestion a try 🥳
@spacepiratecaptainrush123711 ай бұрын
imagine the absolute power move of opening hailing frequencies and there's the captain front and centre in his Skant, sitting in the centre chair with with knees apart, relaxed, confident.
@wendigos_eat_people717711 ай бұрын
lol, You have a dirty mind.........🤣
@swirvinbirds197111 ай бұрын
Airing it all out to Starfleet... 😂
@gerardoarellano769811 ай бұрын
Glorious.
@Jagunco11 ай бұрын
faint smell of cheese
@etherealceleste11 ай бұрын
If only we got a Scottish Captain...
@Hyreia11 ай бұрын
Admittedly that one buff guy walking towards the screen with it on? He absolutely killed it. The way he rocks it (with the boots?) he makes it feel like a kilt-version of the uniform.
@peaceblossomvalentin66711 ай бұрын
Ii know. That guy in the foreground is wearing it with so much confidence and what feels like positive attitude to see him. His look, his walk, his posture, his frame. It's like he is saying this what men can wear if they choose and everyone is equal and there is no division between the two. So great
@Hyreia11 ай бұрын
@@peaceblossomvalentin667 Exactly! He made me believe.
@someguy485310 ай бұрын
Looked like a true Spartan
@shamancredible863210 ай бұрын
@@peaceblossomvalentin667if you're a man and you're wearing a dress, it better be a kilt. Otherwise I'm going to make fun of you, because no matter how far in the future humanity goes, you're fruity if you do that
@devenscience889410 ай бұрын
@@shamancredible8632 truly, you are the epitome of Star Trek's ideals. /s
@c.j.nyssen698711 ай бұрын
The skant as a uniform variant actually makes sense when you realize the ambient temperature of Starfleet vessels with human/alien crews is set at 24°C (75.2°F) to accommodate various lifeforms. That's a little too warm for many people, so an opportunity to bare your legs would be welcomed by anyone who found it too much.
@sqlexp11 ай бұрын
Yes, the view you can have when you climb up a ladder behind your crewmate.
@Frankie5Angels15011 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s it. For comfort… 🤦🏻♂️
@Crosshill11 ай бұрын
why no short shorts or regular shorts under short skirt, you can wear a regular pair of modest shorts with a short skirt and get the exact same risky naked look, why is nobody out here with shorts on ladies paired with short dresses
@peterc.141911 ай бұрын
No that's an excuse to put mini skirts on women and to put them also on men. 24 C is not hot enough to have to operate in shorts and we also don't know what the humidity level was. And besides, shorts do exist.
@ChadDidNothingWrong10 ай бұрын
They had desktop-sized freon air conditioners in 1980's japan, with a cooling loop you wear on the wrist.....so for them to not have a fully portable method of cooling a person in stsr trek is kind of silly.
@brynpookc112711 ай бұрын
I wore miniskirts in the 70s and you had to move very carefully, you never bent over and there’s a special way to reach/stretch up that keeps the skirt in place. Edit: It’s correct that the mini was a female statement of independence at the time and highly criticized by men.
@tomverlaine72811 ай бұрын
Not leg men I bet.
@chrismayer391911 ай бұрын
In this day/ age, males are more likely to dress effeminately, so the slant today would have less of a sociological impact. (Especially if one is intersexed)
@thehigherman991811 ай бұрын
I still criticise it
@oiytd5wugho11 ай бұрын
@@chrismayer3919 tell me you have no idea what gender or sex is without telling me you have no idea _Especially if one is intersexed_ jesus fucking christ
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@thehigherman9918 of course you do, you mewling _petaQ._
@The2wanderers11 ай бұрын
I feel like the skant with leggings looks more like a believable uniform than the jumpsuits ever did.
@Bionickpunk11 ай бұрын
Then it just ends up being a really long shirt.
@deadend104111 ай бұрын
Funny how the jump suits from enterprise are very very similar to the used on subs when i was in the navy
@zilentis183511 ай бұрын
@@deadend1041that was intentional. TNG famously wanted a “Cruise Ship aesthetic”, luxury technologies, lots of carpeted space, in the early episodes Tasha even mentions going to some of the Enterprise’s “shops”. This sorta philosophy was continued in Star Trek, DS9 they wanted something a bit more communal and it’s kinda like an apartment complex and airport, Voyager they wanted sleek and sci-fi like a special fighter plane. For Enterprise, in order to sell the feel of this being much more primitive compared to the other Star Treks, it’s aesthetic was actually based on real submarines-even it’s hull-compact compartments, very little space and capacity for crew, hand rails and bracing handles spaced everywhere. And yes, their uniform is almost literally just an actual uboat navyman’s uniform.
@riftvallance208711 ай бұрын
@@BionickpunkMore like a tunic then, I like the idea of fashion being cyclical. Could use a belt to round off the look though
@zilentis183511 ай бұрын
@@aaronmoore3050 wut
@concernedcitizen631311 ай бұрын
While Picard never wore a skant, he and others sometimes wore the best dress uniform in any series, which looked a lot like a longer dress with pants underneath.
@Setnja9211 ай бұрын
This is true. You have a good memory 🙂
@PaperbackWizard11 ай бұрын
The earliest incarnation of that dress uniform had them basically wearing leggings underneath. Lwaxana Troi was checking out Picard's legs in her first episode and even tricked him into wearing the same uniform to her quarters later.
@emilybemily439711 ай бұрын
Worf referred to it as a dress in a later season. Liaisons, possibly.
@neverendinglute312511 ай бұрын
I think because it had slacks underneath it gets more forgotten. I was really looking forward to hearing it mentioned in this video but it went forgotten
@Scripture-Man11 ай бұрын
@@emilybemily4397 Yes, it was the beginning of Liaisons. He said "They look like dresses" to which Riker angrily replied "That is an incredibly outmoded and sexist attitude. I'm surprised at you… Besides, you look good in a dress."
@aDifferentJT11 ай бұрын
I love the irony of the TMP costume designer criticising TOS costumes for looking too pyjama-y.
@raven4k99811 ай бұрын
it's that time for you to wear a man dress dude🤣🤣🤣
@Scripture-Man11 ай бұрын
Everyone knows pyjamas are the ultimate futuristic fashion. Just ask The Traveler from Tau Alpha C
@Theduckwebcomics11 ай бұрын
@@Scripture-ManArthur Dent is the Ultimate space style guru.
@Fridelain10 ай бұрын
Actual NASA uniforms described as space pajamas by the actual astronauts in the ISS.
@wylloughbye11 ай бұрын
I LOVE my skant. Made it from Alex Beard's pattern about 2 years ago. They are really comfortable, and not nearly as revealing as you think. One of the fascinating things with wearing them, is that the skirt flap naturally falls to keep your warp core from showing when sitting.
@ObsessiveCostumingDude11 ай бұрын
I'm glad you had a good experience with the pattern and enjoy your skant! :)
@kadmii11 ай бұрын
just imagining Sisko undoing his skant while confessing to playing a role in the murder of a Romulan senator
@VegetaLF711 ай бұрын
"I can live with it..." *zip*
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
“It’s a _dreeeeeeess!!”_
@ObsessiveCostumingDude11 ай бұрын
"But the most damning thing is ..." [zips up and closes skant] "I think I can live with it."
@ShamrockParticle11 ай бұрын
I'd that doesn't redefine "IT'S A FAAAAKE!", then nothing will! 😅
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@ShamrockParticle but we’re talking about Sisko in a _genuine Starfleet skant,_ not some shoddy Pakled bootleg.
@Hexagonal_Goblin11 ай бұрын
15 minutes worth of skantposting is everything I could ever want
@J4ME5_11 ай бұрын
and rocks!
@Scripture-Man11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to point out that you are skantpost-posting, and I'm skantpost-posting-posting.
@miklosernoehazy867811 ай бұрын
@@Scripture-Man ...and I just wanted to point out, Lt. Worf knows just exactly what the skant is Starfleet's version of... ... IT'S A KILT!!!... ... THAT'S WHAT CAPTIAN SCOTT TOLD ME!!!... ...SEVENTY FIVE YEARS IN A TRANSPORTER BUFFER DOES NOT MAKE THAT MAN'S OPINION INVALID!!!... ...IT'S... ...A... ...KILT!!!...
@ShamrockParticle11 ай бұрын
I skant believe I agree with you! 😏 😁
@armandoestebanquito228211 ай бұрын
That we have never seen O`Brien wearing a skant on screen is one of the great tragedies of humanity... (I love your channel, it's a joy every time there's a new episode!)
@martinez1701a11 ай бұрын
Funny you mention him, I saw him shopping at fashion square Mall here in Sherman Oaks California lol
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@martinez1701a “bloody cardigans!”
@john.premose11 ай бұрын
Why O'Brien?
@BlownMacTruck11 ай бұрын
@@john.premoseBecause O’Brien is the ultimate every man. Also who wouldn’t want to see Colin Meaney’s hot Irish legs?
@PorcuPineAppleSauce11 ай бұрын
O'Brien must suffer
@alexbruce949911 ай бұрын
I didn't properly appreciate it at the time, but Pulaski's skant-plus-pants combo may actually be my favourite TNG uniform. The SNW version is very nice.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
Skants-plus-pants was also essentially the dress uniform from TNG to Voyager.
@roadkillz7811 ай бұрын
I'll have to admit, those two did go well together; they could have utilized that look for everyone else on that season, might have turned out pretty good.
@hackman66911 ай бұрын
Hehe 😄
@kaitlyn__L11 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Pulaski's uniform too, well, the second revision. Her first few episodes' one is chunky and uncomfortable-looking.
@-GeordieDan-11 ай бұрын
His eyes uncovered! Junk Ball returns.
@sleepinglionarchives11 ай бұрын
This discussion reminded me of a conversation I once had with my boss. I was working as a teacher and talking with the principal about our dress code. I was commenting that men had to wear suits, ties and all, in the warm months while female staff were free to wear sleeveless tops and skirts. His response was, "Well, you can wear a skirt," because shorts were not in the staff dress code. I did not wear a skirt
@temparalflux91411 ай бұрын
Happens every summer in the UK, kids challenge the gender equality when it comes to Summer clothes as girls can wear skirts which are a lot cooler than trousers, and shorts are not in the dress code, so every summer we see an article on Facebook with a boy wearing a skirt because it is in the dress code but shorts are not (it has nothing to do with gender identity but practicality).
@r0bw00d11 ай бұрын
So was the principal an idiot, asshole, or both?
@DawnDavidson11 ай бұрын
Shoulda worn a kilt, obvi!
@kaitlyn__L11 ай бұрын
@@temparalflux914 that's great. Back when I was in secondary school the dress code explicitly only allowed skirts for girls, the couple of boys who tried were sent home to wear trousers! Glad we've moved on at least a little bit.
@Escafrost10 ай бұрын
I would get a kilt. Then it's manly.
@lyrajaded10 ай бұрын
We did see Picard in a dress uniform! Just like the skant, I love how nonchalantly accepted it is. Picard’s only complaint is that he hates the collar because it’s uncomfortable
@jakmrnd11 ай бұрын
In my own head canon I always took the Command and Operations switching colors to be a hold over from the Monster Maroon uniforms from the movies. That during the time between the movies and TNG the red uniforms became a symbol of Starfleet and the Federation across the galaxy. So when Starfleet decide to change the uniforms and go back to a more simpler design the red became the color for Command because it would be those officers who would be making first contact with new races and representing the Federation in other diplomatic, exploratory, and defensive matters.
@hackman66911 ай бұрын
Alright!😁
@shinyagumon701511 ай бұрын
I like the Skant on Troi, would've been better then the weird catsuit. Also love the uniform concept with sideboob for men and women.
@90lancaster11 ай бұрын
+9:42 Very risque But it would be nice to see something like that for someone stationed on Risa say. I think the bare arms are cool though I'd like to see that made up as a costume I think it would really work well. Perhaps the colour on the side panels with bare arms would really work nicely.
@user-do2ev2hr7h11 ай бұрын
I think it would have worked better if there were stockings or something to go with it. Bare legs with the boots just looks weird and makes the whole outfit look more shapeless than it probably should have.
@mechanomics264911 ай бұрын
Yeah I've never liked the catsuits. Didn't like it on Troi, didn't like it on Seven.
@DawnDavidson11 ай бұрын
@@90lancasterwow, I missed that! I can’t imagine how the epaulets would stay down on the sleeveless version, though. Glue? Staples?? The mind boggles.
@Aerojet0111 ай бұрын
They look creepy.
@JudasBooth11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video mentioning that the TOS minidress was actually Grace Lee Whitney's idea; it gives credit where it's due (Grace came from a stage and dance background and was comfortable in such garb, similar to Nichelle Nichols, who also admitted to liking the outfit), it rightly addresses the issues Grace faced because of it (though she was already a substance addict before TOS, it certainly didn't help), and it helps to alleviate a certain negative view among some commentators (looking at you, TrekCulture) that it was Gene Roddenberry's idea to have women run around in short dresses, which tends to paint him as some kind of lecherous chauvinist. Far from it; Gene may have been a shameless womanizer in his personal life, but professionally he held women in high regard, especially in a time when precious few in Hollywood did.
@user-do2ev2hr7h11 ай бұрын
Maybe so, but it's an undeniable fact that Gene did have a tendency to try to insert "sexiness" into Trek and it usually came off as awkward when he did.
@rolandogamez11 ай бұрын
And Nichelle Nichols brought back the dress in ST4 as well!
@nlald11 ай бұрын
Yeah! Roddenberry was a lecherous egalitarian.
@PixelLife10111 ай бұрын
@@user-do2ev2hr7hI'd disagree, one thing TOS has is romance and inserts alot of beauty shots done tastefully. Ie focusing on the woman's face and eyes...
@starwarsnerd10011 ай бұрын
@@PixelLife101 On the less tasteful side, Gene also proposed that the Ferengi have enormous cod pieces for their huge junk. Or the TNG episode Justice where the planet of blonde men and women are all frolicking and oiling up each other in the back ground. Gene was a multi faceted guy, it's true that he fought for things like women and minorities having a more prominent role on the show, but he was also a bit of a pervert and liked finding excuses to add weird sex stuff to the show, even if the skirts weren't his idea.
@CAP19846211 ай бұрын
The assembly of the skant is so incredibly intricate. There’s zips, ties, and snaps all over the the outfit.
@mepm11 ай бұрын
I heard sausage separation instead of saucer separation and thought oh that totally explains where the skant went :D
@Funct11 ай бұрын
The effort that goes into the little details for these videos is so, so appreciated.
@Lost_n_Found_111 ай бұрын
I second that.
@jonathankirsch212111 ай бұрын
Seriously, all the amazing graphics and B Roll and photos, it's astounding how much effort put into these productions!
@joebartlett150511 ай бұрын
Zapp Brannigan was a fan of the skant, especially the velour ones.
@jrnelson_11 ай бұрын
This is exactly the type of well researched analysis I have come to expect from this channel. Thank you for making videos talking about the real things Trekkers care about.
@Lazzars11 ай бұрын
There's something about the pallet swap of Picard and Data's uniforms that I find really uncomfortable
@Setnja9211 ай бұрын
This is what i like about Star Trek. Even such a small detail as a pants-skant-skirt isn't as small as one would think. It makes one think about stereotypes, history, pros and cons, one's own opinion and the possible dresscode of the future.
@Stealthwilde11 ай бұрын
I always thought it was called the skant because it was… well, scanty. I never put two and two together and figured it was skirt/pant
@theblackwidower11 ай бұрын
If memory serves the dress uniforms from early TNG were basically skants. The shirt being so long it nearly reached their knees.
@beyerdr11 ай бұрын
I think its probably good for the show that the "skant" went away for a while. The more "military" look of the Starfleet uniform played well for TNG/DS9 and Voyager. Imagine fighting the Dominion war in a mini dress?
@rhocat36211 ай бұрын
I just did 😂😂😂😂😂distract a Jem'Hadr❤
@DawnDavidson11 ай бұрын
@@rhocat362yeah, they are so doped up already they wouldn’t be able to process what they were seeing. 😂
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
If you can fight a war in a pink minidress, you can fight a war in anything.
@DurocShark11 ай бұрын
I'm ordering a Warning: Rocks sticker, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it on a mug! It would be great for the office!
@MarkDawsPresents11 ай бұрын
This is the deep dive into the Skant we all needed.
@hannahlarge573811 ай бұрын
i love my TOS nurses uniform. made with real velour. i wear it with leggings and it's warm, practical, and comfortable, while also looking great. weirdly, this is my one cosplay that NEVER gets groped or harassed.
@r0bw00d11 ай бұрын
That's weird. I suppose the logic behind that is, since you're not showing off any skin, you're also not being provocative.
@hannahlarge573811 ай бұрын
@@r0bw00d there are lots of factors but "skin" is rarely one of them, although perceived "femininity" certainly plays a part -disney princesses are always prime targets for sexual harassment at cons, even when they're being played by dudes with beards. personally i think it's that the creeps tend to like their targets to be vulnerable, and the ToS uniform gives me a lot of confidence.
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.685211 ай бұрын
Challenge accepted!
@DrWhom11 ай бұрын
You should not get groped at all
@theRPGmaster10 ай бұрын
Don't worry, if you're sad about it, me and@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 are up for the task
@mcdouche211 ай бұрын
The day after Riker discovered the Skant existed, he invented shoe mirrors to assist in his level 3 diagnostics.
@jackplumley330811 ай бұрын
He was definitely a p hound
@Takegat11 ай бұрын
I laughed way too hard at this
@footballrestored17111 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, he had to get rid of the shoe mirrors as when he tried to sit down in a chair using his famous leg swing, one of the shoe mirrors flew off and injured a crew member.
@ravensnflies816711 ай бұрын
he didnt invent them; he simply rediscovered primitive ancient technology🤣🤣🤣
@Scripture-Man11 ай бұрын
Riker was a stickler for the rules. After the skant was decommissioned, whenever he saw a female officer wearing one he would angrily insist she took it off immediately.
@EmeralBookwise11 ай бұрын
I was 9 when TNG premiered, and to this day I can still vividly remember how cool it was to see the Skant being worn by men. I've never really cared much for masculine "norms", and so the idea of a future where men could wear whatever they want without fear of ridicule always felt very liberating.
@StopMakingEveryoneDumb11 ай бұрын
😂
@ianlassitter239711 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@StopMakingEveryoneDumb11 ай бұрын
@@ianlassitter2397 , this guy just said he wants to wear a dress. 😆😆😆
@eureka563511 ай бұрын
@@StopMakingEveryoneDumb They're comfortable enough in their selves to wear one, unlike you.
@StopMakingEveryoneDumb11 ай бұрын
There's entirely too much soy in our food supply. SMH
@philipguyott335211 ай бұрын
Some warrior cultures wear kilts, which are basically skirts for both men and women. However they are longer than a scant
@JeremyLevi11 ай бұрын
In ancient Minoan culture (Crete) the men all wore skirts that were about the length of the scant while the women wore long dresses that covered their legs (albeit with their breasts completely exposed).
@itubeutubewealltube111 ай бұрын
hate to break the news, but scotty wore his man dress, better known as a kilt, in 1967 during the original star trek run
@rhocat36211 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@drewmonroe678211 ай бұрын
Sry but kilts aren’t skants.
@itubeutubewealltube111 ай бұрын
@@drewmonroe6782 aye, and if my grandmother had wheels, . . . . . . . . . she'd be a wagon.
@rhocat36211 ай бұрын
@@drewmonroe6782 everybody's a critic
@HansBelphegor10 ай бұрын
Yep scotty is why i own kilts
@vasp9911 ай бұрын
The skant looks exactly like the classic tunic which is one of humanity's most popular garments .
@jasonarthurs388511 ай бұрын
But it's a skant!
@rolandogamez11 ай бұрын
Yeap! If you think it's feminine, dic legionario Romano! (Say it to a Roman Legionnaire!)
@ThreadBomb11 ай бұрын
It's a bit more clingy than a tunic.
@vasp9911 ай бұрын
@@ThreadBomb Marcus Antonius was famous for wearing clingy tunics .
@tankermottind11 ай бұрын
Ancient peoples wore theirs a bit longer to avoid the skant's problem of constantly being at risk of flashing people. They also tended to get replaced with trousers over time because bare legs suck for riding a horse and horseback riding as a huge technological leap that nearly everyone took advantage of.
@JC_Chappy11 ай бұрын
Junkball was my first ever KZfaq subscription... back when cats reigned supreme on this strange new site called KZfaq.
@NuTacLLC11 ай бұрын
It’s so strange to think that God knew Junkball would be the best Star Trek KZfaq channel when he made the decision to create the universe. It’s probably why he even bothered to create in the first place. Thanks to God and Junkball for being the reason I got to exist.
@idlebaum20711 ай бұрын
That segue from VPL to the video sponsor is pure gold 😄
@CathrineMacNiel11 ай бұрын
it was damn smooth.
@Scripture-Man11 ай бұрын
The clever link makes sponsored segments almost bearable. Almost.
@margotsquirrell11 ай бұрын
i like that the tng dress uniforms were dresses, definitely brings the feeling of "everything is gender neutral". I do kinda wish that they'd kept the concept of all the characters wearing the skant sometimes though.
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
The jumpsuit sort of went into that direction. It's functional first. It's what pilots and racecar drivers and engineers wear on duty. Enterprise also gave us jumpsuits, and even more practical ones than in TNG, because they had pockets where you could store all kinds of useful stuff. Yes, that is my main issue with Starfleet attire. No place to put things. Can't hide that mini phaser anywhere but in your buttcrack. No way to covertly carry a communicator on away missions. And how many phasers and tricorders get thrown around because the holsters are just open plastic rings.
@joshDammmit11 ай бұрын
I remember watching this show as a kid, like OG, and thinking nothing of it. If you get bent out of shape by this kinda thing, it says something about the quality of YOUR character
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
I think men should have the same privilege I have to not be looked down upon for choosing skirts and dresses. I don’t choose them because I’m a woman, I choose them because I don’t like fabric constantly brushing against my legs. As much as I’m a girly girl who does enjoy looking feminine, that’s far from being their greatest advantage (and given women’s jeans also tend to look more feminine, I’m sure a skirt or dress designed for a man could look more masculine).
@flyingsky155911 ай бұрын
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated No plumber is going to want to have bare legs when kneeling over a toilet.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@flyingsky1559 ok? I’m not saying “let’s make trousers illegal”, or failing to acknowledge that in some situations, they are the best clothing choice. Huh, I just realised that Mario style plumber overalls are to dresses what trousers are to skirts…
@john__lemon11 ай бұрын
Glad youre back a little more often, lately :) Your suave video essays are always good.
@KingofPotatoPeople11 ай бұрын
I like to imagine there’s at least one ship where all the crew where skants
@kaktuskopf321411 ай бұрын
ALERT New junkball video
@RedCaio11 ай бұрын
Ironically the uniforms from TMP looked the most like PJs. And man is it awkward to be able to see the perfect outlines of the ... stuff down there
@jeffkardosjr.382511 ай бұрын
V'gers and Decker units.
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
Some of my least favorite uniforms. My favorite ones are the later TOS movie ones (the red ones with the flap) and the late TNG-era ones (with the grey shoulders and colored undershirt) One of them fits into the slightly militaristic (but not too much) tone, the other is reserved and professional.
@thewiirocks11 ай бұрын
The production values of this video are insane! I especially love how effortless you made the red/gold switch look while discussing the topic. Just know that us fans really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this video!
@DeavTech11 ай бұрын
Patrick does look damn good in red.
@jw973711 ай бұрын
Yeah, im pretty glad that got left in the fever dream category of the early seasons of TNG
@EvanG52911 ай бұрын
more like a fever nightmare
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
You say that, and yet it essentially remained into Voyager as the standard dress uniform. And Una Chin-Riley looks amazing in her derivative of it 😃 Face facts, my Sibling in Spock, _the skant rocks!_ 🪨🪨🪨🪨🪨
@alejandronopasanada530211 ай бұрын
I remember that episode of SNW where Spock jumped on The Kirk brother because he was distracted by crumbs. If I was on the mission at farpoint, I would have been in the funny farm! “Man getcho sausage up out of engineering bro!” I’m out here trying to boldly go while the kids out here trying to boldly show!
@johansmallberries987411 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, the media would have people flipping out about this today. Back then it was a throw away concept that at worst viewers found mildly amusing.
@lancebaylis316911 ай бұрын
It's actually kind of disappointing that we never got to see any other main cast wearing one, given several of them have said they actually would have been fine with it.
@hackman66911 ай бұрын
Yeah Worf could use one while battling it out with Data over who has the best legs. 🦵 Then Riker enters the chat revealing his newly waxed calves winning the debate. Troy laughing 😅 in background.
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
@@hackman669Riker would totally do that. Show of his manliness to shut up the rest of the crew.
@Mikeb-NH11 ай бұрын
Imagine Worf fighting Duras in a skant. “He has claimed the right of vengeance…and the right to look fabulous”.
@lavahouse2911 ай бұрын
People in the 1980s: What was Gene Roddenberry even thinking, having men wearing the skant?? People in the 2020s: Gene was ahead of his time, yet again.
@PaperbackWizard11 ай бұрын
I remember seeing "Encounter at Farpoint" for the first time as a kid. When the guy in the skant walked past the screen, I could tell they were making *some* kind of point with it. I wasn't sure whether I wanted them to keep that uniform around or not.
@EmeralBookwise11 ай бұрын
@@PaperbackWizard: I was 9, and not only was I very much aware of the point being made, I absolutely wanted to see more of it. I was always rather disappointed the skant never got much prominence and disappeared almost entirely by the second season.
@Beuwen_The_Dragon11 ай бұрын
No no, it is still ‘what was he thinking?”
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon we literally know what he was thinking. A few hundred years ago men wearing clothes that were essentially dresses or skirts was normal, and still is in Scotland, the fact they’ve become gendered in the past is a historical anomaly and there’s no reason to think such an anomaly would last into the 24th century. It’s a perfectly logical thought process 🖖
@Scotdod247 ай бұрын
I remember watching the first airing of TNG, not one person said any thing about the skant then. fast forward 30 yrs and certain men loose their shit over it 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@jamcdani11 ай бұрын
Is it bad that I always just like a JunkBall video before I watch it? And then I'm sad after I watch it that I can't like it again? I didn't even know I needed a skant-based video. Awesome, as always.
@Lost_n_Found_111 ай бұрын
You can like it with as many alt accounts as you can handle, lol.
@bakomusha11 ай бұрын
For the last year or so I have been liking video compulsively, since KZfaq keeps shorting the time on the little red bar to tell you you've seen a video before. First was forever, then 3 years, now it's down to three weeks for me.
@cdrocrossdiscovery11 ай бұрын
Doctor Pulaski wore a skant, combined with pants, as part of her standard duty uniform.
@helifanodobezanozi768911 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart rocked a toga in "I Claudius", so yes, the skant would have been no big deal. Also, skants are rock resistant!!! (Was anyone in a skant EVER killed by rocks!?)
@alexandercaldwell141111 ай бұрын
Yeoman Leslie Thompson (TOS; "By Any Other Name") was wearing a skant when she was turned INTO a rock and then crushed by Rojan; does that count?
@helifanodobezanozi768911 ай бұрын
@@alexandercaldwell1411 No. She wasn't actually turned into a rock, but rather flash dehydrated into a solid. Also, the cause of death was a boot, not a rock.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
@@helifanodobezanozi7689 a hand, not a boot. KZfaq just happened to recommend me that clip about 15 minutes ago 😂
@helifanodobezanozi768911 ай бұрын
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Thanks, you're right about that! Worst.....handjob......ever......... 😆
@dhunter113311 ай бұрын
I've never understood why the Star Trek skirt uniforms were considered pandering by some. The crewmember wore undergarments, tights, and color-coordinated bloomers over the tights, which meant they had more layers and coverage over their bits than those who wore trousers.
@M167A111 ай бұрын
It's subjective. There was no obvious story reason for the garment so the assumption is that it's there to make a statement of some kind. This is reinforced because it looks so darn silly.
@dhunter113311 ай бұрын
@@M167A1- Well, you're not wrong; it WAS there to make a statement, one of female empowerment. No, seriously; 1964 was the birth of the miniskirt and Trek was born in 1966 and in that era miniskirts were all the fashion rage for "liberated" women. Now, if you mean the TNG skants...I've got nothing. Those were pretty weird, especially given how shapeless they were.
@DawnDavidson11 ай бұрын
@@dhunter1133absolutely. Mini skirts were IN!
@nicholasrudzwick404611 ай бұрын
Just watched 15 minutes of Junkball talking about a Man Dress.... I am not disappointed at all.... Great video Junkball!
@beccangavin10 ай бұрын
You know, I didn’t like the skants when I watched TNG previously…but looking back they actually look pretty good. They made everyone’s legs look great and they also looked pretty comfy. I bet it was easier to go to the bathroom in those than it was in the full body suits. I just learned the phrase “mono-nip toga” and I don’t think I’ll ever be able to erase that from my memory.
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
Jumpsuits might be the most practical for engineering work, but two part uniforms are more practical in regular day to day work. Why there aren't any job specific uniform variants will always be a mystery. Business casual standard uniform, fancy dress uniform, short sleeved summer uniform, thicker winter uniform, away team equipment vest/jacket, jumpsuit maintenance uniform, raincoats. All obviously following a unified design.
@GenericJohnDoe11 ай бұрын
Riker had worn the skant VERY proudly. And know we all remember his Riker-Stance.... ^^
@while.coyote11 ай бұрын
Picard randomly in a scant for an episode would have been so freaking bad ass, especially if they didn't mention anything about it and just had it there without comment.
@ZontarDow11 ай бұрын
It's like the fact that the Enterprise D had dolphins on the crew which included a dedicated living area and work area for them that's still in the technical readouts: one of those quirks of the 1980s that's charming specifically because it never really took off.
@nancys858111 ай бұрын
Yea I'm really disappointed in the lack of dolphin hires in the space force.
@guitarzilla55511 ай бұрын
"Would stop traffic" and it shows Edith Keeler crossing the street.... 😂😂😂
@MattSidor11 ай бұрын
I love how you always find a way to talk about the ROCKS!
@AParadoxLost11 ай бұрын
There is literally nothing that lifts my spirits after a hard week like a new JunkBall video!
@adamkares754911 ай бұрын
Nice of you to beam into my Friday evening Junkball, always a pleasure. This was funny, I can only imagine the look on Jon Frake's face when he saw that Space-Man-Geisha costume
@charlotteglen789611 ай бұрын
I remember when Picard had formal meetings he’d wear the formal uniform which was basically a long skant and absolutely losing my shit at how amazing that was to see
@Angie-Way11 ай бұрын
bless the youtube algorithm gods for putting this in my recommended; the skant is everything to me
@Adam_Boots11 ай бұрын
I did notice that the male skant in SNW can be worn with pants. In Subspace Rhapsody them Ortegas is hit by the wave a man is walking past her wearing one. If you look closely enough you can see the two vertical stripes on the legs which show that they are the pants and not leggings. Shows that there is a choice as to how to wear them.
@brushfuse11 ай бұрын
When you live in Berlin, there is nothing at all unusual about a guy walking around in a dress, or indeed, walking around naked. Star Trek was just way ahead of the zeitgeist.
@Game_Hero10 ай бұрын
wait, what?
@brushfuse10 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero I should have said walking around clubs and certain FKK parks and beaches when naked. Not just anywhere :)
@HansBelphegor10 ай бұрын
@@brushfuse you know i know better but the way you put it all i imagine is a bunch of muscle men running around in dirndl
@brushfuse10 ай бұрын
@@HansBelphegor Pretty much anything goes if you're not bothering anyone else. :)
@rhocat36210 ай бұрын
@@brushfuse how wonderfully refreshing!!!
@theothersparrow11 ай бұрын
The background cast that agreed/opted to wear the minidress show boldness worthy of immortalization in Klingon song.
@EpicAdrian3D11 ай бұрын
Smoothest Sponsor message transition ever. Didn't see it coming
@DarinRWagner11 ай бұрын
Great! Now can we get a video about the NX-01 ballcaps?
@DogsRNice11 ай бұрын
How about every time someone wears sunglasses
@DarinRWagner11 ай бұрын
@@DogsRNice Nice. But the ballcaps were an actual uniform item on ST: ENT. They were inspired by the command ballcaps that Berman and Braga saw on the crew of the USS Houston submarine when they took a tour in prep for developing ENT.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
I thought you were talking about her ample nacelles for a minute there.
@mxg7511 ай бұрын
I feel like the skant also influenced Star Fleet dress uniforms all the way until the Insurrection redesign. (If it had been up to me, I’d use the officers’ Wrath of Kahn uniforms as dress uniforms. They always seemed overly complex for day-to-day wear.)
@Aerojet0111 ай бұрын
Perhaps, not many people want to see it.
@hackman66911 ай бұрын
Yep
@The_Kiosk11 ай бұрын
Man, we're digging deep in the dust bin. I grew up in the 80s, failed The Kobayashi Alternative on C64, and was able to borrow a book from the local public library that had costume patterns in them. The era would have been star trek 4 but the library had a lot of older stuff. The mention of Kirk as a Commodore and the designer of the uniforms were mentioned in the uniform pattern book, which mostly covered ST:TMP. Bro you just gave me a major flashback to a better time.
@fanOmry11 ай бұрын
If I were to make a version, it would be a wrap variant were the folds also act as pockets. Like when people use that wrap scarf thing to hold babies. It would combine well with the toga like idea, In an IRL scenario would lent well to cost concerns, add a glue layer for when you are certain you got it propper, and you now can just take it off and on like a shirt. Fast. That can be the everyday version, while the pure wrap is for oflicial events.
@HeresWhyItsCool11 ай бұрын
Man, you've got so much morphing in this video.... must've taken forever to edit... especially to get Badgey to jump at us like that!!! Nicely done!!!
@sasshole812111 ай бұрын
The scant actually gives a Roman soldier feel to the uniform. And hey, if it's masculine enough for Zapp Brannigan . . .
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
A real man can wear a dress without having his masculinity hurt. And a real woman can wear a dress without being reduced to her femininity. It all comes down to how you wear it.
@BirbarianHomeGuard11 ай бұрын
Severely underrated channel.
@king_kurt_200011 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man, when i see a Junkball transmission, i klick like.
@bastonneknight947811 ай бұрын
The design that went into the original costumes was quite impressive. I've seen a few outfits and seeing the patterns for the original series female uniforms was enough for me to nope out of that project 😂. Medieval tunics and tabards are far easier to make.
@Lemon_Inspector11 ай бұрын
Also known as the Starfleet summer uniform.
@NicholsonStudios11 ай бұрын
that was fun, nice work! the SNW Skant is really nice actually
@Hailey_Halcyon11 ай бұрын
the over engineered zipper system was likely designed to prevent messing up makeup. a lot of the various series uniforms are put together in this way. look back at hires views of Kirk and spocks uniform you can sometimes see the zipper or pins holding the uniform together at the shoulders and neck and shoulder lines.
@JunkBallMedia11 ай бұрын
Interesting. I never considered that.
@DrWhom11 ай бұрын
Also think of how it rips in the tos episode where no man has gone before
@BennyT_343411 ай бұрын
Dress code change happened after Riker got blitzed in 10-Forward and kept insisting he'd been promoted to captain of the Skantgazer....from then on Starfleet mandated full pants for everyone
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
I heard it was after he pulled the River Manoeuvre in front of a Vulcan admiral while wearing one.
@kelandryyemrot138711 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the skant. Kind of wish it had become more of a thing. It feels like things coming full circle? Pants are a relatively new thing. In many civilizations throughout history, men wore what we would probably consider skirt-like or dress-like clothing items. In some cultures, they still do. I think it makes sense that we'd go back to that some time in the future. Yeah, it looks a little silly to us, but that makes it more real to me. I mean... I know what I wore back in the early 2000's. What looked normal then doesn't look so normal now.... Let the men wear skants. Let everyone wear skants. But... maybe name it something else? I don't like how it sounds lmao
@HappyBeezerStudios10 ай бұрын
Greek had togas, Romans had tunics and their legionaries had skirts, Scots had kilts, south asia has the kurta, arabia has the thawb, west afrika has the dashiki. In many cultures, dresses and similar leg-less garments are still popular.
@guardduvie11 ай бұрын
First, I love your content. Best Star Trek KZfaq channel by far… I commend you for the smoothest ad Segway I have ever seen. Well done!
@RebeccaLoran10 ай бұрын
4:15 *clap* This has to be the absolutely smoothest transition I've ever seen. Bravo!
@AbsurdShark11 ай бұрын
Fashion: the final frontier. These are the garments of Starfleet. Their mission: to boldly blend the styles of skirts and pants; to explore new statements in intergalactic fashion; to boldly go where no uniform has gone before!
@RexRye11 ай бұрын
You went above and beyond with the edits for this one Junkball, I was very impressed with your work on this vid.
@JunkBallMedia11 ай бұрын
My pleasure. I had a blast making them. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@theodricaethelfrith11 ай бұрын
There were Troi figures! It took months of searching back in the day but I finally located a couple. She's in her catsuit, however.
@hackman66911 ай бұрын
Meow! 🐈 OH behave. 😄
@WrestlingWithGaming7 күн бұрын
Back again. Still love the editing on this one. Such a great video, man!
@RyanLeCocq11 ай бұрын
The aggressive progressivism and futurism of Gene Roddenberry stories are my favorite Trek stories. Like they're doing an episode, call him about some random point and he's all "Man dresses, I want man dresses. And a planet of androgenous people." "Gene it's 1988, man." "Fine, do the dresses, make the andro aliens ambiguous." CLICK
@Unsound_advice11 ай бұрын
Picard banned Skants due to an unfortunate day with Commander Riker.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
Either the skant or the River Manoeuvre had to go, and Will couldn’t tolerate losing the latter.
@HansBelphegor10 ай бұрын
Until yt recommended me this, id have never thought about the scant, and i got a deep dive into childhood memories 10/10 would watch 15 more minutes of scant lore
@Pangolin-Mandolin11 ай бұрын
Ah...'tis always a good night when a new Junk Ball video arrives 🥳
@TeddyBear9720111 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back! A couple things though... First, Picard did wear a skant in at least one episode, he was greeting someone arriving in the transporter. I believe it was Troi's mom(?). Second, in one of the original series manuals detailing ship specs and all that, there was a mention that the skant was actually supposed to be a dress uniform (before it was dropped pretty much entirely). I wish you would've at least mentioned that second part.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated11 ай бұрын
That was him in the dress uniform, so there were trousers under that skant.
@leehudson820211 ай бұрын
NAILED IT! My thoughts exactly!
@NeilBlumengarten11 ай бұрын
As an 8 year old in 1987, I never gave much thought to the skant. Now, 35+ years later society is finally catching up!
@MrAranton11 ай бұрын
I think I was twelve or thirteen when STTNG first aired where I live. My first thought when I saw the skant was: "Are they going to wear that on away missions into rough terrain? Those legs are gonna get scraped up pretty badly." I also wouldn't want to think about what crawling through a Jeffrey's tube would do to the knees of skant-wearers. There are many situations Starfleet personnel wouldn't want to face bare-legged, which makes the skant a uniform they need to change out of in order to fulfill parts of their duties, which would make unpractical. Granted, how often any pariticular crew-member would have to change out of a skant would depend on their exact work, but the skant would remain a uniform variant for certain occasions, not standard wear.
@NeilBlumengarten11 ай бұрын
@@MrAranton Good points! We see them a lot in engineering, not a place you'd think they'd be conducive to the type of work they do. Well, the Jefferies tubes, at least. Many seem to just stand around to push buttons. On a larger scale, I've long thought the standard uniform isn't the greatest for away missions. I appreciate the coat in Star Trek II and the tactical vests in Discovery/SNW for that reason.
@EmeralBookwise11 ай бұрын
I was exactly 9 when TNG premiered, and seeing men in skants is among my most vivid memories watching it. I just loved the idea of a future where all the silly gendered stereotypes had been abolished.
@jessmac189311 ай бұрын
The skant in SNW is awesome. And the use of tights looks great while adding prqcticability