Star Wars The Old Republic: Galactic Timeline

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Star Wars The Old Republic Galactic Timeline Mini Movie
Galactic Timeline is a series of in-universe videos that provides backstory for the Star Wars: The Old Republic video game. They are presented in the form of record entries made in the Jedi Archives by Jedi Master Gnost-Dural who narrates the history of the Galactic Republic and the Jedi Order. The narration follows a reverse order, beginning from the Treaty of Coruscant and going back to the events that led to it; it spans the Jedi Civil War, the Old Sith Wars. The animation is simple and is definitely nowhere near the level of the cinematic trailers, but they are some great stories here. Sadly, Bioware canceled the series after 12 episodes because lack of interest. They do have brief descriptions of what each episode would have been about. Most exciting for me would have been the last episode. It would have gone back 30,000 years to the moment when philosophers and monks first discovered the force!
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@codeplaysgames7681 3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars universe is rich with stories and events.

@Chumsack 3 жыл бұрын

Too bad they won’t use literally any of it

@coliosucc7468 2 жыл бұрын

Cries in Disney

@kamranrais8671 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you oblivion npc

@spiderklanblaze3124 2 жыл бұрын

It never ends Star Wars will be here forever ♾

@bigbitehood1353 2 жыл бұрын

Obi-wan once said "over a thousand generations" a harmless throwaway line at the time, but that now means there's at least 30,000 years of history but also the Jedi and the greater Galaxy have been largely the same for all that time. So we get a thousand different writers trying to fill in the blanks with stuff like Hylo Visz

@XAlted1 5 жыл бұрын

Old republic movies would be good imo, not just that but having games that cover times that are mentioned like the Mandalorian wars would be a great movie imo

@sawanlingden9292 2 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@RogersGirl88 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but wokers NEED to rewrite nerd history to pave the way for the next generation of marxists to normalize big brother.

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

Disney will ruin it

@vicenine7689 7 ай бұрын

They should make a Old Republic animation series like the clones wars, have the same people do it too

@BungBooce 6 ай бұрын

I kinda pray that disney keeps their hands off the old lore they will most likely ruin it some way or another

@BaldyOneKenobi 3 жыл бұрын

Whoever did the V.O. is so damn cool. Love the voice.

@joelgummert302 2 жыл бұрын

It's Lance Henriksen. Best know as Bishop in the Alien franchise. If you played Mass Effect he voices Admiral Hackett.

@frenchbanditi5971 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda want him to narrate my life

@zooweemama911 2 жыл бұрын

@@joelgummert302 No it’s not, this is me. Thanks for your support gang 🤞🙏

@zooweemama911 2 жыл бұрын

@@frenchbanditi5971 it will cost you, I’m like a fine prostitute.

@RogersGirl88 Жыл бұрын

It was the bad general from modern warfare 2 who betrayed you and ghost. He was also bishop from aliens and weyland from alien vs predator. He was the dad from pumpkinhead. He was in the originap terminator as a cop but he was supposed to be THE terminator originally before arnie took his job. Pance henricksen

@quenni5286 5 жыл бұрын

We need Old Republic as Film

@ZeusStormbringer 5 жыл бұрын

as a true film not the b.s. that's going to come out

@mrpickles8003 5 жыл бұрын

Quenni_TV yassss

@holyelliw 5 жыл бұрын

GoT style TV-show is what we really need.

@spFOX-pz3fx 5 жыл бұрын

YES! This is the movie that true fans need. Not Marry Sues, not an origin story that no one asked for or wanted, and definitely not a quirky animated series.

@spFOX-pz3fx 5 жыл бұрын

Zerebrat Eightyseven Stop with obnoxious titles. It should be vague, sometimes only a true fan would appreciate

@friendofjesus1680 3 жыл бұрын

The endless cycle of good vs. evil, repeating forever into the future.

@AAhmou Жыл бұрын

Kreia tried to end that cycle to no avail.

@ryandejong1669 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Admiral Hackett got work after he retired from the Systems Alliance.

@chrisofblades5167 2 жыл бұрын

so wish that this was its own TV show. "Starwars the old republic" with all the characters from the games

@MichaelJRK 8 ай бұрын

One of the main reasons I love SWTOR so much is how they weave lore into the "modern" story! When Hylo appeared, I freaked out!

@ttrestle 2 жыл бұрын

BioWare did an amazing job with these lore vids.

@Xpwnxage Жыл бұрын

They really did, I just started playing TOR again.

@Supernamek-rh2xv Жыл бұрын

@@Xpwnxage you see how much stories are in this 48 minutes and then see how disney kill star wars man what a shame hope elon musk buys star wars

@lemokemo5752 Жыл бұрын

Lazy uncreative recycled imagery

@jackstamford9937 Жыл бұрын

So this is all from a game ? That's insane

@jessebeegee 7 ай бұрын

@@Supernamek-rh2xvif u think elon musk is a creative or intelligent person u must be a droid

@devinb3878 3 жыл бұрын

This is the lore I like, not the power of friendship fight bad guy with red stick

@actuallymajor6102 2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad admiral Hackett went from fighting reapers to wars with space wizards and bounty hunters sprinkled in

@christianvincentcostanilla8428 2 жыл бұрын

Revive Old Star Wars legends

@Elivous91 5 ай бұрын

This deserved far more views

@shooth100 3 жыл бұрын

THEY NEED TO MAKE A MOVIE ON THIS TIMELINE! The Old Republic is amazing. But knowing Disney they'll ruin it.

@tobyjamison6801 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is what Disney should have covered to start with. Rather than the damage they did. They would've had more elbow room I think then again they might've made it too political.

@manofbree6739 Жыл бұрын

@@tobyjamison6801 I don't want any Star wars anymore until elimination of wokeness from the industry.

@maui3551 Жыл бұрын

That's not going to happen any time soon but a show on Disney Plus could happen

@lemokemo5752 Жыл бұрын

Why? You already have all over 9 movies identical to these images and events. The ships, soldiers, and uniforms are just the same as clone wars and original trilogy. It is just a rescrambled version of everything you've already seen a thousand times.

@jcraftgaming76 Жыл бұрын

@@lemokemo5752 you sound stupid, star wars is a lot more than "images and events" even so the events are not the same but i wouldn't expect someone who sits here and watches/comments on something they dont even like.

@josecantu5605 2 жыл бұрын

A movie of the old republic would have to have actors that are sword masters because the jedi then were on another level

@shcdemolisher Жыл бұрын

Yeah! They fought like real warriors and it shows!

@user-ig8vu1rm7k Жыл бұрын

My favorite star wars lore. Great writing, artwork, music, everything about it is perfect

@daneyal7162 4 жыл бұрын

I wish Lance Henriksen was my history teacher.

@dkoz8321 2 жыл бұрын

This is well narrated. lance hendrickson really out to do narration of Old Republic era or Dawn Of Jedi audiobooks.

@Hunterbw93 2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how badly EA and Bioware have abused and neglected this game yet it keeps on limping along.

@shcdemolisher Жыл бұрын

They're still adding content for it, so it's still alive.

@braxtongrundy4625 7 ай бұрын

So many stories could be made in this era

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 5 ай бұрын

Disney will ruin it with woke politics

@WesternViking 2 жыл бұрын

This was very well put together man, very immersive. I listened to this while cooking. I will look for more vids like these on your channel

@pookey6905 3 жыл бұрын

It would be great to have a tv series based on this time period. Disney just released they’re slate of movies and series for the next few years and there is nothing from this era.

@justchilling704 3 жыл бұрын

@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity All they need to do is faithfully adapt he games story and the stories already produced about the old republic era.

@manofbree6739 Жыл бұрын

@@justchilling704 No, they will ruin it, by adding Sue after another. Rey(Ruin Luke Skywalker), Aphra(Literally the worst copy cat of Hylo Visz and Han Solo ), Voor(Ruin Palpatine) I can't imagine what nightmare they will bring upon this timeline

@ivanisra9246 5 жыл бұрын

So now i get that the fisrt order is just a bad copy of the reborned sith empire

@josephblumenthal1228 4 жыл бұрын

I was watching that new show on theDisney app and figured I’d check out what Jedi were. Your show was done VERY WELL. Great job. I wasn’t expecting something this high quality. I’m impressed

@davidbennett4901 Жыл бұрын

What we need is a remake of all these games on PS5 hardware and graphics would be so damn awesome

@febrian0079 5 жыл бұрын

Star Wars the Old Republic is an old game but the best Star Wars game Made by EA. By the Way can you play Star Wars the Old Republic again (Sith Inquisitor)

@goblinwrecks698 3 жыл бұрын

This game was not made by EA. It was made by a company called bioware.

@nato4535 3 жыл бұрын

@@goblinwrecks698 made by BioWare,published by EA(I think not published but acquisitioned by EA)

@dhenry199200 3 жыл бұрын

Omg this is amazing I need to see more

@jahlilmathis 4 жыл бұрын

I will elaborate ...in my new video. Love that part.

@frankymr2 9 ай бұрын

The Old republic is more interesting than the newer lore, Theres so much going on many sith , many mandalorian , many jedi and not just 2 or 3 in the story . Would love to see a tv show or a few movies around this era .

@MrJedi20 2 жыл бұрын

An open world rpg starting with the Exar Kun War and covering the next 40 years afterwards would be insanely epic. These tales deserve to be put in a game or on screen.

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

Disney will ruin it with political correctness bs

@MrJedi20 Жыл бұрын

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 unfortunately, you're probably right. It's getting way past annoying.

@debeerpaul Жыл бұрын

Love the Homeworld style narration.

@chrisg6517 4 жыл бұрын

People are really sleeping on this VIDEO 588 likes!?!? You can't be serious

@neon_charm_catgirl Жыл бұрын

an Old Republic series could be six movies easily, maybe more. tell the complete story of Revan. start with his birth, discovery and training by the Jedi, and his descent to the Dark Side and eventual return to the Light. end the Revan saga with his confrontation with the Sith Emperor, and the tragedy of how he sacrificed his spirit to keep the Sith Empire from conquering the Republic. including flashbacks you could fit in so much of these events into the movies and create so many new characters. it would be a true saga that would be the equal or superior to the Skywalker saga.

@DarsiPadilla Жыл бұрын

All in all, them being superior over the Sequel trilogy is a given.

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

You clearly want Dave filoni and Kathleen Kennedy SJW activits writers to bastardize nerf watered down and completely destroy the old republic lore right? Dave filoni is inconsistent only cares about the force is female, the force is a plot device for him he doesn't understand the cosmic force or living force, he doesn't respect others writers and probably will turn all male sith lords into strong whaman

@repugnant__6379 5 жыл бұрын

Disney and Microsoft will never recognize this series, its essentially not cannon anymore so forget the dreams of having this actually be a part of the story. Forget about the past, forget about the sith origins. Mandalor who?? Yea, they don't care about us or the lore of star wars.

@spFOX-pz3fx 5 жыл бұрын

Blame the bitch in charge

@battledroid224 5 жыл бұрын

There's still Lucasfilm. Ahsoka Tano - 'There's always a bit of truth in legends'

@battledroid224 5 жыл бұрын

Many of the post-handover novels and comics bring in EU things

@Mohmmad_Noman 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video

@mikeroconsole 2 жыл бұрын

Grand Moff Odeel Viken sounds interesting. Would love to see a movie made about him and the origins of the modern Imperial military.

@davidwilk3873 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video would like to learn more!!

@scottwerner279 2 жыл бұрын

"An unprecedented army, 50,000 strong" what is this? the dark ages of europe. You should be able to find bar-brawls on coruscant with more people. There should be like Millions of Bothans at least since they are an advanced space-faring race. An unprecedented force would require like a few more zeros. Sure you could argue that this was just the strike force around the shield generator, but even then 50K doesnt feel unprecedented and 5k defenders is just laughable

@patrickmaybe2197 Жыл бұрын

Earth and it’s population arent really good comparisons when looking at the Star Wars Universe. Planets in the galaxy far far away are hardly ever as densely-populated as Earth is, the beings of the Star Wars Universe have an entire galaxy to inhabit, so it’s rare to see that many all in one place, especially during that era. Hope this helps!

@sliderx1897 3 жыл бұрын

I listen to this while i clean the house

@handsomeblackman255 2 жыл бұрын

This is my sleep time listen.

@sonxicor8921 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this vid I needed this so I can properly make my Tarre Vizsla fan series accurate

@ccabr003 2 ай бұрын

They should make a TV series of Old Republic story lines.

@secmaga20 4 жыл бұрын

Yes love it.

@amb-yz9ee Жыл бұрын

This is so awesome

@hyneephali131 3 жыл бұрын

Great broadcast video even in 2020

@andrewseeger9263 6 ай бұрын

Please make part two! 😊

@noahk6476 2 жыл бұрын

Is this a repost (better quality, etc) because I remember watching this 4 years ago?

@MM-pl5ed 2 жыл бұрын

the voice was perfect

@mikelennon1243 Жыл бұрын

There's so much to mine from the EU, so many great characters, arcs and eras. Revan, Exar-Kun, The Mandalorian Wars and Emperor Vitiate could all support a film/series.

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

Dude stop wishing for those characters to be deconstructed castrated emasculated humiliated nerfed and watered down, we all know if vader luke, han Leia, obi wan dooku aren't safe none of the EU characters will be, remember Kathleen Kennedy say "the force is female"

@takumu781 Жыл бұрын

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 reactionary found. have fun when the us empire collapses due to the country going into default

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 5 ай бұрын

@@takumu781🤡 ❄️

@herrdoctor896 9 ай бұрын

Are there more parts after this???

@Greatkaizenx 2 жыл бұрын

I come back here once a year to refresh

@christianvincentcostanilla8428 2 жыл бұрын

The first old Star Wars legends : Star wars the splinter of the minds eye by Alan Dean Foster

@MikeStitt23 Жыл бұрын

please make the second part to this

@Stealth-ve7nw Жыл бұрын

Still cant believe that someone at BIoware or EA....some moron executive cancelled the rest of these. Claiming they had nothing to do with the game.

@finnhaverkamp 2 жыл бұрын

Is the entirety of this video leading up to the beginning of The Old Republic? I mean is this good background info to have before going into The Old Republic? The Old Republic is still canon in new Star Wars right?

@noahboddy1484 Жыл бұрын

Everything starwars made before disney bought the rights to the franchise is non-canon except for the movies and the clone wars cgi show. That unfortunately means this is non canon too, even though thats stupid because nothing here could possibly contradict with the movies because they literally take place 4000 YEARS BEFORE PHANTOM MENACE! ugh.

@blazeisasnake 3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't this video from the prelaunch swtor stuff?

@marcusblackwell2372 Жыл бұрын

Are these in the game or just promotional material? If they're in the game, how are they unlocked?

@nickrwidmer 4 жыл бұрын

I kept waiting for him to say fifth fleet out

@ramblingcollector3165 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this I’m honestly interested in checking out more of Exar Kun’s story. Does anyone know any old books that features him either as the main character or the main villain?

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

read tales of the jedi the sith wars and jedi academy trilogy

@ramblingcollector3165 2 жыл бұрын

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Thank you so much! I’ll check them out once I get the chance. These’ll make some awesome reads as well as good material to review!

@lordkorrison5080 3 жыл бұрын

I think the most powerful people in the game are the smugglers lol.

@ryankwon8785 Ай бұрын

Andor is the only Star Wars Disney media that gave me Old Republic vibes.

@DIDDYKONG916 3 жыл бұрын

Disappointing that they never did continue this series of short videos for the video game.

@outsiderd 5 жыл бұрын

Cool... ... ...

@theechothief5594 2 жыл бұрын

Well hello there, Lance Henriksen.

@ChrisDouglass2141 3 жыл бұрын

ARE all the videos playing last to first, AND WHY?

@WookieepediaOfficial Жыл бұрын

More games need lore guides like this!

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

Devps are too lazy nowadays

@spFOX-pz3fx 5 жыл бұрын

*THIS!* is the shit I like, not Disney Star Wars. If they made movies about this shit, they could’ve kept their old fans.

@mauricerose3082 Жыл бұрын

...Princess Leia was symbolic of how the Empire kept the Huts on a short leash...

@mrXOwarrior Жыл бұрын

You missed the ending!

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

those eu writers understood star wars more than David filoni ever could, star wars is about conflict between light and darkness, not the political correctness bs him and Kathleen Kennedy want to push, also I don't want him to touch the old republic because he is not a good writer, the old republic was a very dark gritty mature serious badass violent brutal tragedy era, not the lighthearted family friendly clone wars and sequel trilogy

@hollywoodkid1342 2 жыл бұрын

Have you actually ever seen the Clone Wars series? Not every episode holds account for “family-friendly” type

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

@@hollywoodkid1342 yes I had seen at it's not that good compared to the old EU clone wars which were darker grittier with more depth and stakes, David filoni filoni clone wars doesn't have Kal vastor and jedi master fay which were great characters he also turned dooku into a kiddish Saturday morning cartoon villain

@hollywoodkid1342 2 жыл бұрын

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 at least the series had good characters like Ashoka and the clones with personalities

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

@@hollywoodkid1342 the only good character that David filoni can write is ashoka tano that's why try to insert hee everywhere making the star wars universe look small af

@wyattmcgee1 Жыл бұрын

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 You evidently are a troll. In what way shape or form is Dave Filoni’s work even remotely “politically correct”? Also, the Clone Wars is PLENTY dark and gritty.

@oBarbinha Жыл бұрын

We need a trilogy or series of Revan, Victiate, anything OLD REPUBLIC, ITS A MUST

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

Disney will ruin it

@gnome_hat_kynio 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Josh Brolin's voice. Doesn't it? "Im the ONLY one who knows"

@Bane422 Жыл бұрын

Is the narrator Lance Henrikson?

@nicholasbarsanti2863 4 жыл бұрын

Do the game movie kotor 1 and 2

@jonx187x 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know I needed this. Ty 😇😊😶 I'm going through it

@Allison193 Жыл бұрын

The narrator sounds like liam Neeson

@peanutwars 3 жыл бұрын

whos narrating this? you? this is amazing is this some official star wars audio book like no joke ?

@captaingeek7798 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t the name of the voice actor, but these were a series of shorts that were released in anticipation of the mmorpg video game Star Wars The Old Republic.

@peanutwars 3 жыл бұрын

@@captaingeek7798 thanks !

@sebastianquinchia1840 3 жыл бұрын

Lance Henriksen, also the voice of Admiral Hackett in Mass Effect

@nilehoruseus 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome gamers little playground

@bigbitehood1353 2 жыл бұрын

47:42 and then he never did...

@anonimterminstor4179 Жыл бұрын

Was super cool if start from Begin/start from end(curent time) not from curent time to Begin/start time

@rhonangeraci9885 Жыл бұрын

Qui gon is that you

@amb-yz9ee Жыл бұрын

Revan survived

@user-yc2hj8ue9q 3 ай бұрын

Long live Grandmoff Vikon

@davidwoods6692 Жыл бұрын

Is that Lance hendrixin. Bishop from alien?

@RT-pi4pv 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Revan and Malak fell once they found the Rakata, and their star forge?

@shcdemolisher Жыл бұрын

No they fell during the end of that war and made the next one.

@AAhmou Жыл бұрын

Their fall preceded their search for the Star Forge.

@soulstealer567 5 ай бұрын

Bullshit MMO retcons changed their characters into puppets. In the original lore its not clear when Revan really fell, but what is clear is that it was his choice. You could argue he turned when he gave the order to activate the mass shadow generator, wiping out the jedi/mandalorian forces on Malachor V in order to end the war. Or you could say it was when he discovered the sith academy on the planet's surface and learned about the existence of the true sith empire (eldritch horrors in the old plans for kotor 3). It was here he learnt about the Starforge and ultimately decided to embark on the path to find it and use its power to create a fleet that could fight them

@Nightwing690 3 жыл бұрын

I want KOTOR to be a movie

@weyjosh5213 2 жыл бұрын

@Cringe2Win I can't wait the bring back the sith empire in kotor

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 жыл бұрын

Disney will ruin it with political correctness

@christianbrown592 3 жыл бұрын

3:42 thanos

@vader1a 3 жыл бұрын

The narrators sounds familiar. Anyone know who it is?

@Imperial_Remnant 3 жыл бұрын

Lance Henriksen, also known as Admiral Hackett

@0T5Tekkyy 2 жыл бұрын

Just like how the sith disappeared and came back the jedi gon come back too unless if cannon say jedi too soft den nvm but yeh you cant have one and don’t have the other💯

@0T5Tekkyy 2 жыл бұрын

I wanna see some new Star Wars shows & games

@annabellep.800 3 жыл бұрын

Okay So I’m Sorry But I Just Don’t Understand The Old Republic Timeline I Have Watched Many Other Videos But Just Left Confused I Haven’t Been Able To Get My Hands On The Games So I’m Just Dumb I Guess :(

@That_Guy00 3 жыл бұрын

In the Expanded Universe/Legends, The Old Republic Era takes place from 25,053 BBY (the founding of the Republic), until 1000 BBY (the Seventh Battle of Ruusan and the end of the New Sith Wars). The events here take place over 3,600 years before Ep 4.

@brucegrantjr3207 2 жыл бұрын

sounds like james remar..but i know it isnt

@davidwilk3873 4 жыл бұрын

Which are u in Star Wars Jedi sith or middle

@thomascochran7907 4 жыл бұрын

David Wilk je’daii the one true path

@davidwilk3873 4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Cochran dark gray Jedi/gray Jedi/ Middle is my way

@tycoonMOBevolve 2 жыл бұрын

Thomas Cochran only the sith deal in absolutes

@jackr1110 Жыл бұрын

The fact that viciate was behind all of this. And he was "weaker" since his spirit was split multiple ways, all the while of the him was building an army and had force users not jedi or sith and noone knew is crazy. He needs a 5season mini series. Covering it all from his pureblood sith birth to revan force Ghost helping skerg defeat him!!!

@thalljoben3551 2 ай бұрын

Is... Is this Lance Henriksen?

@leanlantern1 26 күн бұрын

I’ve always thought it was

@mkb4560 Жыл бұрын

Old republic would be a cool film as long as Disney doesn't make it

@dennisgrogg9527 Жыл бұрын

The Darth Bane trilogy would be great

@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Жыл бұрын

Disney will ruin it

@co94 Жыл бұрын

Serious question: Why does the Jedi Order keep the Council governing structure no matter how many mistakes or bad decisions it makes? Always sounds like mistakes are repeated and there is no culpability on the council.

@jackr1110 Жыл бұрын

Yea I agree no mater how far you go back the fact the jedi close themselves off ban that side of the force and certain emotions following a certain set of rules etc always causes fractures. Then and now their closed mindedness and complacency gives rise to their downfalls.

@chunkyraccoon1829 Жыл бұрын

I think the best answer for this is that Jedi is a religious group more than a governing body. The best comparison would be the Catholic Church in the medieval age. This puts the Jedi in a position when changes to their structure questions the religion as a whole, leading to a splintering of the religion. Sorta like when Martin Luther proposed changes to the Catholic Church and accidentally started the reformation.

@stephen4036 Жыл бұрын

So....the Empire and Republic is like east vs west, capitalism vs communism but both are prone to corruption and cause countless suffering and the galaxy or planet would be better off without either? Lol. What i learned from star wars.