Star Wars Top Ten Worst Special Edition Changes - Star Geek

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In the latest Top Ten episode on the Star Geek channel, I delve into the Worst Special Edition Changes. From CGI mishaps, to completely new scenes, these are the absolute worst changes brought upon the Star Wars Saga. SUBSCRIBE to STAR GEEK for Star Wars content every 4-5 days.
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@auditect950
@auditect950 9 жыл бұрын
Imagine Hayden's reaction when seeing the Special Edition Return of the Jedi for the first time. "Ah, I Love this Scene...wait...is that me? What the heck am I doing here?"
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking while making this video :D
@auditect950
@auditect950 9 жыл бұрын
This was not only done without calling Hayden into the Studio, but completely without his knowledge. It must have been the biggest suprise in his life. And no offence, but you may not like Ghost Hayden, but if you all of a sudden were part of a Classic Movie loved by many...I don't think you'd complain.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Redeye If I was suddenly a part of Star Wars without my prior knowing, I wouldn't COMPLAIN, but I'd certainly think the change shouldn't have been made. There's no need to change the films anymore, so if I was Hayden, I'd probably have mixed feelings about being in an edited film loved by billions.
@auditect950
@auditect950 9 жыл бұрын
Hm, you're right...
@martalaatsch8358
@martalaatsch8358 10 ай бұрын
I saw an interview from shortly before RotS was released, he said he was mostly feeling honored to see himself standing next to Alec Guiness
@hunterkiller1440
@hunterkiller1440 9 жыл бұрын
There are only three sins in my opinion that the maker had destroyed his own franchise: 3. Obi Wan stepped on Lego sound effect. 2. Han shot first. 1. Vader screaming no at the end of Return of the Jedi.
@noahfortner2
@noahfortner2 8 жыл бұрын
Lol I thought that scream sounded familiar XD
@MYnerdSELF
@MYnerdSELF 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love most of the chnages....besides the "no" and the anakin change.
@LSelecDgns
@LSelecDgns 9 жыл бұрын
Vader's "No" was actually in the Blu-Ray version in 2011, not the Special Editions from the '90s. Just pointing that out.
@LSelecDgns
@LSelecDgns 9 жыл бұрын
***** The new theatrical releases had the Special Edition changes. You might be thinking of the 2005 DVD releases. (or was it 2004, I can't remember...)
@LSelecDgns
@LSelecDgns 9 жыл бұрын
***** I think most of those changes were added in the 2004 versions but are associated with the Special Editions (like Jedi Rocks, Jabba scene, etc.) I may be completely wrong though.
@Simple1Jack
@Simple1Jack 9 жыл бұрын
***** In 1997 Lucas re-released all three original films into theaters with additional scenes, effects and alterations. For instance the scene in A New Hope between Han and Jabba was originally created for the 1997 release although the CGI Jabba model looked far worse and Lucas subsequently went back and updated it for the DVD release.
@marylourollins9453
@marylourollins9453 9 жыл бұрын
***** 1997
@GuyOnAChair
@GuyOnAChair 4 жыл бұрын
There are so many differences large and small over the years that's pretty hard to keep track.
@maujo2009
@maujo2009 8 жыл бұрын
That quote of George defending the non-colorization of B&W films just made the irony-meter blow off the chart
@IRNatman
@IRNatman 9 жыл бұрын
I agree, except for the emperor change.
@ThatOneMart
@ThatOneMart 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, I really dislike the original emperor.
@albertkleppin2320
@albertkleppin2320 8 жыл бұрын
+analothor He is indeed
@SpooderSquad69
@SpooderSquad69 8 жыл бұрын
+IRNatman YES DOOMGUY
@TheJimmyp427
@TheJimmyp427 8 жыл бұрын
Yea the emperor looks way better and i thought the new dialogue was fine. From vaders point of view, its like when you find out someone lies to you but you cant just call them a liar, otherwise theyll beat your face in. So you have to be like "by the way..." and then just pretend to be satisfied by whatever answer he gives. Plus later, vader reveals a plan to luke where they team up and overthrow the emperor. Obviously vader is tired of palpatines shit, but isnt confident that he can challenge him alone. Vader probably thinks he can do a better job as emperor
@harrisonfaulkner5545
@harrisonfaulkner5545 4 жыл бұрын
what he said about the empire made me laugh
@BearWindAppleyard
@BearWindAppleyard 8 жыл бұрын
recently watched all of the 6 movies. That "Weesa freeeee" moment in Jedi made me cringe so much. The New Emperor I didn't mind at all, that old one looks weird as hell.
@chrisrougue
@chrisrougue 8 жыл бұрын
The New Emperor is so much better than the original
@kylethedalek
@kylethedalek 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree, I don't get why people care about that it makes sense, like Ian played him through 1-3 and 6 so why have a different person play him? And especially when every one loves Ian as him.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+kylethedalek Well, Ian McDiarmid SHOULD have replaced the 1980 Emperor. The old one was pretty awful. The problem is how much they changed the dialogue, and fully gave away what the emperor looked like in a somewhat anti-climactic way. Put Ian in the shadows and have him repeat the written 1980 lines, and this change could have been one of the best.
@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou
@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarGeek Just remove the Dialogue about Luke being Anakin's Son, & problem solved.
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing will beat the Original.
@thinkhector
@thinkhector 5 ай бұрын
The dialogue is NOT the only problem with this scene. The hologram special effects are TOO GOOD, and jarring. The hologram "FaceTime" technology is used throughout the film, and NEVER does it come in as clear as this scene. It stands out in a bad way. I am not entirely opposed to a "lite" special editon: like removong black bars around special effects, improving the original audio, or even fixing thks first emperor scene. But this ain't it. This "fix" just introduces new problems of its own.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 8 жыл бұрын
There's only been two changes that bothered me cause the rest I'm fine with. Ben's Kryat Dragon yell in ANH and Darth Vader's "Noooooo" in ROTJ and they were brought on by the Blu-Ray Editions. I don't mind Hayden Chrisensen replacing Sebastian Shaw, etc. HOWEVER, I should note that for those who don't like the changes should have the ability to own the unaltered versions. Also I really feel those people who say "George Lucas raped my childhood" are REALLY exaggerating.
@HazardHighlander
@HazardHighlander 8 жыл бұрын
+Webshooters1 what they should have done is have hayden in age makeup so that he looked old. would have made more sense
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Hall Not a bad idea, but I think the point of the whole "Have Anakin from episode 3 be there" thing was that episode 3 Anakin was the last time Anakin was a jedi. I know he had his moments of Dark Side back in 2, but he still believed in the light side. He actually regretted his Dark Side actions in 2.
@bluepigeon2657
@bluepigeon2657 8 жыл бұрын
+Webshooters1 There is a despecialised fan made edition for people who want the hd originals. The amazing thing is that it really is in HD and looks great.
@Wolferine07
@Wolferine07 8 жыл бұрын
+Webshooters1 No. (Or, in the Special Edition of my comments, Noooooooooo.) The prequels never happened. Hayden Christensen has no business appearing in ROTJ because he has nothing to do with Star Wars. Where the fuck is Sebastian Shaw.
@garyjones2561
@garyjones2561 7 жыл бұрын
Wolferine07 The prequels did happen.
@TSF_Ukraine
@TSF_Ukraine 9 жыл бұрын
The changes that bug me the most are those that disrespect the original actors, like the voice of Boba Fett. I love Jango and his voice, but the original voice had so much unique character to it that this change is not only disrespectful (imagine being the original actor and knowing that you were just cut out forever after all these years!), but is also a downgrade. Furthermore, Jango and Boba would NOT have the exact same voice even if Boba is an exact copy. There are so many outside factors that influence the way a person sounds, from what he or she eats / drinks to body weight, illnesses, traumas, way of speaking and sound formation, or even pure chance, that for Boba to have EXACTLY the same voice as Jango he had to live his "father's" exact life, which is impossible. Boba Fett might be a clone, but he lived his OWN life with his OWN experience. Also, the ghosts scene. When I saw RotJ for the first time, it was with Sebastian Shaw, and made perfect sense to me, a logical result of previous events: Vader turned back to the light as he died, hence he's back, after all these years, with his old friends. Now, with young Anakin, it's confusing as hell, and if I were Luke Skywalker, I wouldn't smile at them, I'd freak out and ask Ben or Yoda "Wait, who's that, do you know him, or is it just a random ghost who likes parties?.." I also imagine Yoda's probable response: "Your father it is, young and strong he is, old and weak we are, BULLSHIT THIS IS."
@enforcer2007
@enforcer2007 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about the Sebastian Shaw thing but I completely disagree on the Boba thing. Idk who plays Jango but he is Jango and Boba and it would make complete sense why they have the same voice. Since you said this 6 years ago, Boba Fett died and only had like 5 lines. but with the Book of Boba Fett you probably agree with me now
@multitudeofidols
@multitudeofidols 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that they feel like they're treating the audience like they're idiots. As if the continuities have to be precise because the viewer won't understand that these trilogies were filmed decades apart and not in chronological order.
@jaydenc367
@jaydenc367 Жыл бұрын
None of the changes disrespect the original actors including the voice of Boba Fett. It is not disrespectful or is a downside as it is creates continuity consistency. Yes they would have the exact same voice if Boba is an exact copy. In this context nothing would change Bobas voice enough for that to be the case though, Boba does not have had to live his father's exact life for him to have the exact same voice though. But realistically he would still have the same voice. Except Vader did not have hair when he died and by then he was already dying before he could become a full jedi again so his force ghost would be him when he was last a full on Jedi. It is not confusing, it is not bullshit at all. .
@TSF_Ukraine
@TSF_Ukraine Жыл бұрын
@@jaydenc367 Incredible, everything you just said is completely wrong, baseless and makes no sense. That's... impressive, actually - from a certain point of view.
@jaydenc367
@jaydenc367 Жыл бұрын
@@TSF_Ukraine Literally nothing I said is wrong, no it is not baseless and makes sense, what does not make sense is the idea of an exact same clone having the exact same voice being unrealistic, is not like Mewtwo who was heavily modified from Mew no Boba Fett is an exact clone of Jango Fett with no genetic mutations or anything.
@EnceladusOfSaturn
@EnceladusOfSaturn 9 жыл бұрын
Regarding Fett's voice: On the '97 SE VHS it's still Wingreen because, of course, Jango Fett did not exist yet. It wasn't until the 2004 DVD that Morrison's voice was added. Hate Morrison's delivery. It's so flat and has no edge like Wingreen's. It's like they just brought in Morrison and had him record those lines in one take and said, "Meh, it's fine." Wingreen's voice will always be Boba Fett for me.
@nicholasmaslennikov2128
@nicholasmaslennikov2128 9 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: they just had him read the lines over the phone, so he was literally phoning it in. I also know that Temuera Morrison can deliver lines much better than he did in the Special Edition from playing Star Wars: Bounty Hunter.
@RedEveTillDawn
@RedEveTillDawn 8 жыл бұрын
I like the original voice better it's more menacing and stronger. It fits the characters roll better
@team2ogroupchannel586
@team2ogroupchannel586 9 жыл бұрын
1997 Jabba hurts my eyes.
@marylourollins9453
@marylourollins9453 9 жыл бұрын
CF Brend Me looking at the back of the box: :-O WHAT IS THAT?!?!? Five seconds later: Oh, it's Jabba. 1983 Jabba looks like it should. 1997 Jabba looks like his parents were brother and sister.
@team2ogroupchannel586
@team2ogroupchannel586 8 жыл бұрын
+Mary Lou Rollins true
@team2ogroupchannel586
@team2ogroupchannel586 8 жыл бұрын
and know, this is the I know own almost all of the copies, I'm only missing 1997 return of the Jedi
@ryanwerrbachd3208
@ryanwerrbachd3208 7 жыл бұрын
Most CGI looks so unfit and unnatural in the the originals. Such a shame
@HelloGreedo
@HelloGreedo 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude!
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I was greatly inspired by your amazing series on this topic, it's like I'm talking to a celebrity :D Thanks again, love your videos!
@reeseexplains8935
@reeseexplains8935 6 жыл бұрын
HelloGreedo hey
@ayflames
@ayflames 6 жыл бұрын
StarGeek that was a great video
@kevindong9999
@kevindong9999 8 жыл бұрын
i feel like George lucas was drunk when he did the special additions
@Defunct231324141
@Defunct231324141 8 жыл бұрын
I thought putting Ian McDiarmid as the emperor The Empire Strikes Back made a lot more sense as he plays the emperor on Return of the Jedi, it makes no sense to have the emperor change from a different actor between empire and Jedi when you can correct it, the original emperor wasn't creepy when it should be as he is a Sith lord, But changing his dialogue with a mistake.
@sdm47
@sdm47 3 жыл бұрын
It’s still disrespectful to the person who actually portrayed him the first time as she’s now effectively been erased from Star Wars history And you can’t even argue inconsistency because he’s mostly in shadow and could look like anything
@fschalk
@fschalk 9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree any more..thanks for reminding me about the "you're lucky you don't taste very good!" Line..one of my favorites as a kid, I didn't realize until NOW it was replaced with the very lackluster "you were lucky to make it out if there"..I guess he was just trying to tie it with the wooden, lifeless dialogue of the prequels.
@McSuperfly101
@McSuperfly101 9 жыл бұрын
That's such a bizarre line change. I mean with a lot of the other alterations I can kind of see Lucas's reasoning behind them even if I don't necessarily agree but with this particular one I'm simply clueless. Why would anyone even think to change that line let alone change it to something as bland and pointless as that?
@visionaryventures12
@visionaryventures12 9 жыл бұрын
Another important point about the Hayden Christianson edit at the end of ROTJ. Luke hadn't been able to know his father. He asks Leia earlier in the movie what she remembered of their mother. So, seeing his father alone is an incredible, almost near-death-experience meeting his father at long last. Shaw's grin looks much more heartfelt. Even Kenobi turns his head from Luke to look at Shaw. By inserting Hayden, at Luke's age, there's no sense of a father figure.
@tommy1138
@tommy1138 8 жыл бұрын
Ugh! The Boba Fett voice change drives me CRAZY! The old voice had such passion and mystery. The new voice sounds like Temuera Morrison was half asleep during the recording session. Don't even get me started on the horrible Vader scream!
@ousadiaalegria5245
@ousadiaalegria5245 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks God that Harmy and his crew (fans of the saga) made de "Despecialized" editions, that put the original vision of the trilogy in HD, with almost no changes. Of course that things like blue Hoth snow were difficult to edit and correct, but almost everything is in their place and with quality. I really liked you video and agree with everything you say.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 8 жыл бұрын
Meh. I actually like the special editions Boba voice more. To be honest the only difference I can see is a more robotish filter on it. Plus, the original voice's delivery seems a bit... wooden. The redone voice actor just does a better job at being more expressive and natural sounding. If people are getting THAT upset over it, then I think thats nostalgia. Same goes for the blinking ewoks complaint. How is that even a problem? It makes them seem like actual living creatures instead of puppets.
@Goblin_Hands
@Goblin_Hands 8 жыл бұрын
+NeutralGuyDoubleZero Boba went from sounding vengeful and ruthless to sounding boring and monotone, or in a sense... wooden.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 8 жыл бұрын
OmegaPyron I really think its the opposite. Oddly enough I see this exact problem with fans of DBZ who hate on kai, when their precious original voice acting was actually quite wooden in some places.
@Goblin_Hands
@Goblin_Hands 8 жыл бұрын
I think the first half of DBZ has awful voice acting quite often, whereas the second half seemed good enough. Kai's voice acting is fine, but I feel like they cut out certain humor by making everything serious, and I don't like the music or the Japanese music. If it weren't for the music, gore removal (see King Cold's death, etc), I'd prefer Kai. In Empire Strikes Back, I think the Emperor being HQ in the hologram was an improvement, but all the other additions I'd rather not have.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 8 жыл бұрын
OmegaPyron The voice acting stays the same for the most part throughout the series, you mightve swapped editions partway through the series as funi redid their dubs quite frequently with their various dvd series. Kai generally keeps the humor to seriousness the same for most part. Its just that the scenes go by quicker so the gap in length between the serious and the comedic moments are more appearent.
@gwoyang
@gwoyang 8 жыл бұрын
+NeutralGuyDoubleZero Most of us would be just as irritated if Martin Scorcese went back and messed with Goodfellas. Don't fix what ain't broken.
@tommypaget11
@tommypaget11 8 жыл бұрын
bobba fett sounded so much better first
@user-od7el8yc9k
@user-od7el8yc9k 3 жыл бұрын
He sounded like he had sigarettes for breakfast. And it doesn't sound like he was under a helmet.
@PMURPH08005
@PMURPH08005 8 жыл бұрын
So it seems I'm the only Star Wars fan that respects Lucas' decisions. I'm not saying I agree with all of them, but I give him the respect he deserves. It's Lucas' decision; a lot were made to create continuity. It isn't like the original Boba voice was amazing, either. It was basically just a non-synthesized, basically the same version as the new one. I just...people just need to relax. The originals aren't flawless by themselves, either, guys. And I...UGH whatever. I'm done with this rant.
@PMURPH08005
@PMURPH08005 8 жыл бұрын
Basically, if these changes were in the originals, you would love them and you wouldn't care.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+PMURPH08005 Not entirely true. I can find lots of negatives in the Originals.
@PMURPH08005
@PMURPH08005 8 жыл бұрын
StarGeek Ok, let me rephrase that. I am the only hardcore fan that I know of that is honestly willing to defend about 80% of the changes made by George without resorting to "They're his movies he can do what he wants."
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+PMURPH08005 I agree, George is a genius, and should be allowed to do what he wants with his movies. That doesn't make the changes any better.
@daviderickson8699
@daviderickson8699 8 жыл бұрын
+PMURPH08005 Of course "he can do what he wants" but doesn't mean what he wants to do is wise and beyond the reproach of public opinion. When you as a creator release something to the public, in my opinion, you kind of give it away (for money), and any revisions, redacting, etc., should be treated as such. I have very limited experience as an author (a few published magazine pieces), and I learned on the first time, once it goes to print, you just have to await the consumers' response. It's thrilling, nerve-racking, and you always can think of ways you could've said something better or included more, but it is out there in the public and your next move should really be reflected in a new piece of work.
@TheGuyWithTheSniper
@TheGuyWithTheSniper 9 жыл бұрын
Star Trek fan here, which makes it kind of funny I'm calling you out on a technicality like this: The clones were *NOT* by any means completely identical. They shared the same biological "parent" i.e. Jango Fett, but each of them developed slightly differently and, through their experiences, wound up with unique character traits. Yoda specifically said that each clone was different in the Force, indicating that they were not just blanket copy-paste reproductions of the exact same bounty hunter. Captain Rex, Commander Cody, Bacara, Appo, Vill, and all the other characters throughout the saga were all, to some degree, unique. Even though they all obeyed orders in the end, *some* clones had regrets about Order 66 while others did not. You can't tell me that two ENTIRELY identical clones can have two different thoughts about the same action or event. That indicates that the clones, while similar in their mental training and programming, were ultimately wired slightly differently.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Very true, good argument.
@dylanarcher2420
@dylanarcher2420 9 жыл бұрын
Park S.H I like the voice change and it really is a good point
@StrawberrySoaps
@StrawberrySoaps 9 жыл бұрын
The Empire hired normal people, too when the Empire started for...reasons.
@demoskunk
@demoskunk 9 жыл бұрын
TheGuyWithTheSniper The whole idea of making them all clones is just pointless. When I was a kid and thought of the Clone Wars that Obi Wan briefly mentioned, I thought it would be something scarier. Instead, they're just stormtroopers fighting a trade federation and "separatists" ? Would the Empire really have that much trouble raising an army of recruits?? As the original Emperor wanted to bring order to the galaxy, I can imagine a lot of citizens agreeing with that idea and being motivated to join the Empire's army and navy. It's less contrived. Lucas realized that Boba Fett was really popular, so he decided to give his dad (WTF?) a pivotal role. Isn't it enough that Boba Fett is a badass bounty hunter? Now he has to be related to ALL the fucking stormtroopers? It's just lame fan service.
@hunterolaughlin
@hunterolaughlin 11 күн бұрын
@@demoskunkDislike the idea of the clones in the clone wars being literal clones all you want, but it’s already long been integrated into Star Wars lore with, well, The Clone Wars, Rebels, Ahoska and other Star Wars shows so it can’t be retconned or ignored.
@user-to1fg8iz1s
@user-to1fg8iz1s 9 жыл бұрын
I love how George can't even understand the universe he created. If you want the ghosts to be good versions of the characters, use the good versions of the characters. Those of which were Jake Loyd or Sebastian Shaw. You can decide which one would suit the roll...
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592 9 жыл бұрын
The Anakin from Episode III (Hayden Christensen) started off as good, so I say he does count.
@user-to1fg8iz1s
@user-to1fg8iz1s 9 жыл бұрын
AnakinLukeLeiaPadme SkywalkerOrganaAmidala Wasn't he bad in Attack Of The Clones, though?
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592 9 жыл бұрын
Not quite, he did something bad, like really reaaaally bad, but he wasn't evil yet.
@everythingphil9376
@everythingphil9376 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, and my girlfriend is just "a little" pregnant.
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592 9 жыл бұрын
???
@N05L31
@N05L31 9 жыл бұрын
The only changes I dislike are Obi's Krayt scream, Luke's scream, Vader's "no," and Greedo shooting. The ones with Hayden, Boba, and Palpatine were meant to keep continuity, so I honestly don't mind them.
@Hoganply
@Hoganply 9 жыл бұрын
N05L31 That's the thing. Anakin appearing as a young force ghost doesn't even jibe logically, even with the presence of the prequels. The last moment he was good was when he was talking to Luke on the death star.
@N05L31
@N05L31 9 жыл бұрын
Hoganply but nowhere at any point in his life did he look like an unscarred Shaw
@IRNatman
@IRNatman 9 жыл бұрын
N05L31 A classic movie should not be changed to be consistent with a newer one, the new ones should have been written to be consistent with the old ones. Common sense.
@soifon7000
@soifon7000 9 жыл бұрын
Then George Lucas should have maybe been watching the original trilogy more proper before making the prequels.
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy 9 жыл бұрын
Palpatine was an improvement by all accounts--the original was just some costume designer's wife with half of a crappy rubber mask taped onto her face.
@devildogwhite
@devildogwhite 9 жыл бұрын
People were freaking out when disney bought the rights to star wars, but honestly, all I could think at the time was there is nothing disney could do to ruin the series any more than george lucas has already done.
@alanadams6723
@alanadams6723 9 жыл бұрын
Devil Theory Agreed. There are people who love stars wars as much as lucas hates it.
@marylourollins9453
@marylourollins9453 9 жыл бұрын
Devil Theory yea lucas destroyed these movies. i just watched the edited han shot first scene and the edited i am your father scene for the first time and they're terrible. i have the 1997 vhs tapes in the gold box. but lucky for me i have the old cbs/fox tapes and the 1995 thx widescreen tapes. so i'm set. and he complained about other people (eyeroll) he has nerve. #HanShotFirst #StarWarsOriginalTrilogy
@gregp103
@gregp103 6 жыл бұрын
The Last Jedi: Revenge of the SJWs.
@carsondubrucq1251
@carsondubrucq1251 3 жыл бұрын
BOY WERE YOU WRONG
@devildogwhite
@devildogwhite 3 жыл бұрын
lol yeah this didn't age well
@BackyardPix
@BackyardPix 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's worse. These horrible fucking changes that ruin a lot of the scenes, or the mentally ill people who actually like these changes. Thank fuck Lucas has next to nothing to do with the new movie.
@BackyardPix
@BackyardPix 8 жыл бұрын
***** I don't hate any filmmaker personally. I just really loathe these moronic changes, and I believe that Lucas doesn't understand his own work, and that he doesn't get what made the old films so good to begin with.
@BackyardPix
@BackyardPix 8 жыл бұрын
***** Kinda.
@BackyardPix
@BackyardPix 8 жыл бұрын
***** An extremely ignorant person with a great taste in movies.
@michal9o90
@michal9o90 8 жыл бұрын
+EuroTrasho Productions Thanks god fans made Despecialized Edition HD, and finally we have what we wanted. I will hate Lucas forever for this so awful changes he made. The worst part are these new horrible, terrible, so much fucking terrible that I almost wanna die seeing it, the TIE FIGTHERS! Sorry Lucas you are done for me, there is no more place for you in Hoolywood.
@TheCatih
@TheCatih 8 жыл бұрын
If you dont like dont watch
@thebassofmontecristo
@thebassofmontecristo 9 жыл бұрын
John Lennon had not "just been killed" by the time Empire Strikes Back came out. The movie was released in May. Lennon was killed in December of that year, so you could not "get away from that terrible thing" and go watch Empire.
@Fullbatteri
@Fullbatteri 8 жыл бұрын
To get that good HD Star Wars footage you could use the Despecialized Editions made by Harmy.
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 2 жыл бұрын
It’s better just to get VHS
@battlelineshq1799
@battlelineshq1799 7 жыл бұрын
All the clones traits are the same? Have you seen a episode of the clone wars the clone wars before?
@theawesomefactor4971
@theawesomefactor4971 8 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching the Special Editions so when I saw ghost Anakin, I said, who the heck is that?!?!
@hawkeyepierce2608
@hawkeyepierce2608 9 жыл бұрын
I'm a NZer but Lucas should have never changed Fett's voice to Tem Morrision's
@MrTommyUdo
@MrTommyUdo 9 жыл бұрын
Lucas also took out the subtitles in ROTJ, so if you didn't speak Greedo or Jabba you wouldn't know what they fuck they were saying. Which in itself takes away from the scenes.
@ozfan6477
@ozfan6477 6 жыл бұрын
You have to turn on the actual movie subtitles, and then you can see what he says.
@justicemoody
@justicemoody 7 жыл бұрын
This is spot on. You vented my frustration for me.
@seamuslandis8925
@seamuslandis8925 7 жыл бұрын
The nostalgia is strong with this one.
@Solaxe
@Solaxe 7 жыл бұрын
+MrBing 90 "argument"? He didn't even start any discussion lmao
@xDXPxJOEx456x1
@xDXPxJOEx456x1 7 жыл бұрын
Most of these changes are pointless and many of them actually worsen the quality of the films such as jedi rocks. It has nothing to do with nostalgia they just butcher the quality of the films. The biggest offender are not just the changes done but the fact that the theatrical cuts of these films have not seen a official release since 1995 even though there has been a loud outcry for them for literally decades at this point. There should not be any reason to have the theatrical cuts of these films released as well as the altered versions but Lucas film refuses to release them not only to the public but to even the united states national film registry.
@seamuslandis8925
@seamuslandis8925 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Jedi Rocks
@spad1782
@spad1782 7 жыл бұрын
Seamus Landis I would have to agree, I thought the change to the emperor we saw in rotj in ESB was a welcome change, along with the Boba Fett voice change which adds to the continuity. I actually didn't like the original Boba voice-he sounded like some lame pirate
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 8 жыл бұрын
If he wants to have changes then fine. But we should be able to see both the special edition and a higher quality of the original. Lucas owes it to the fans to release the original unaltered version in high quality and not just bury his art under the mud.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 9 жыл бұрын
On the clones being all the same...You never watched The Clone Wars did you? They all had the same biological parent but their personalites varied wildly fro one clone to another cause the Jedi wanted the clones to have a personality so they would perform better in battle. Honestly I don't mind the changes but Vader's "Nooooo" irks me and I grew up watching the unaltered original trilogy and the suspense of that scene where Vader is watching Palpatine fry his son to death and having to choose between his son and his master was just perfect. OH, and Ben's Krayt Dragon yell well...I liked the second one cause my god the third was bad!
@Magnaliscous
@Magnaliscous 9 жыл бұрын
On your first point... the show doesnt make up for the movie, dont use sources from outside the movie to justify bad writing in the movies,
@Voeris1
@Voeris1 9 жыл бұрын
Webshooters1 Nice avatar.
@demoskunk
@demoskunk 9 жыл бұрын
Webshooters1 The whole idea that all the stormtroopers of the Empire are clones is incredibly lame. It's much better if they're all just recruits....like an actual army. They have different heights and voices in the original trilogy anyway. Making them clones just dehumanizes the Empire and reduces them to mustache twirling bad guys who are evil just cuz. The Emperor has become one dimensional, and now so have the stormtroopers. Not that they had depth before anyway, but at least showing that young men would be motivated to join the Empire reflects how, in reality, there are always two perspectives to a conflict.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 9 жыл бұрын
demoskunk They did actually at least in the Expanded Universe because since the clones' growth was accelerated they naturally aged faster and after a rebellion on Kamino and having to fight clones bred to defeat the Empire they started recruiting actual civilians to serve ether by recruitment or force and the clones were over time phased out so by the time Episode 4 happened there were few if any clones left.
@demoskunk
@demoskunk 9 жыл бұрын
Ok, I don't know anything about the Expanded Universe and I honestly don't usually care, but I really like that explanation. It takes what was done in the prequels storyline and integrates it into Episode 4 so that it all works properly. Very clever. I hope that's part of the official story in Episode 7 because I just watch the movies and if it's not covered in the movies, then it might as well just be fan fiction (which in this case is superior to George's prequel script).
@handsolo1076
@handsolo1076 8 жыл бұрын
You're spot on kid! I also hated it when GL replaced the werewolf guy in the cantina!
@Densester
@Densester 8 жыл бұрын
Lucas is like yes finally. I put a rock there
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+CinosGaming Haha, pretty much. :D
@sheldonthecobra4828
@sheldonthecobra4828 7 жыл бұрын
Cinos the Dense potato XD
@SAndSPictures
@SAndSPictures 8 жыл бұрын
The two good changes: The Emperor hologram in Empire Strikes Back and Hayden Christiansen in Return of the Jedi (they provide continuity and I really like them)
@ThierryRocksTV
@ThierryRocksTV 8 жыл бұрын
+S&S Pictures I liked the ending music for ROTJ. It was far better than Yub Yub.
@GamesPerJustin
@GamesPerJustin 8 жыл бұрын
+Demon Rantz Yeah, I feel the same way. That change was for the better.
@ThierryRocksTV
@ThierryRocksTV 8 жыл бұрын
GamesPerJustin It had me smiling along with all the characters looking happy.
@ShamanMcLamie
@ShamanMcLamie 8 жыл бұрын
+GamesPerJustin I wasn't sure what to think of the change until I saw this comment a few months ago. “Hayden as Anakin at the end isn't a change I agree with... But it's one I understand. After seeing my younger sister watch Star Wars in chronological order, including Clone Wars, the ending had an enormous impact. Hayden's Anakin was her hero and she finally got to see him return to the side of good. The ending was incredible to her and it really made me appreciate it a lot more too. When you look at something through the eyes of a child, it's an incredible thing to see.” For a lot of Star Wars fans the Hayden Christensen version of Anakin is their Hero especially when you add The Clone Wars to the equation. It's the return of a lost hero. Sorry to break it to you, but the Prequels and the Special Edition version are going to be part of the experience for the vast majority of Star Wars fans going forward.
@GamesPerJustin
@GamesPerJustin 8 жыл бұрын
+ShamanMcLamie Yeah, I understand that, and I completely respect your opinion. The fact is, many people seeing Star Wars for the first time are gonna be impacted very differently, especially depending on what order the see it in. I know that if I ever have kids, I'd want to show them the movies in the order they originally came out. I think them not know that Vader is Luke's father before Vader tells him would hit them harder than just seeing Anakin being roasted and put in the badass suit. I think someone seeing old Anakin at the end of Jedi when they see the movies in the order they came out would make more sense because they can put the pieces together and figure out that's Anakin, but seeing a younger Anakin would just throw them off. When someone sees the movies in chronological order, seeing the younger Anakin might make more sense (then again, they might ask why the hell does Anakin get a younger body while Obi-Wan and Yoda get ripped off). It's all opinions, really, and people are allowed to show their kids, friends or family members the movies however they want to. Some people like seeing younger Anakin at the end of Jedi. I, on the other hand, think that change is just plain stupid, and I'll never really understand why people like it. However, I'm not gonna say someone is stupid just because they think differently than I do.
@PokedexGameplay
@PokedexGameplay 9 жыл бұрын
6:56 I LOVE THAT LINE AND THE VOICE IS SO GOOD
@thegamingkitchen8429
@thegamingkitchen8429 8 жыл бұрын
Kid, you have no idea what Lucas brought to the table. If it wasn't for Lucas none of this would happen. Get over it.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+The Gaming Kitchen Kid, you need to understand that I don't hate Lucas for anything he did. In fact, quite the opposite. I greatly respect him for everything he did. He's a creative genius who deserves to be recognized, but that doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong. The point of this video was not to point out those faults, but rather to talk about some poor changes to a beloved trilogy.
@thegamingkitchen8429
@thegamingkitchen8429 8 жыл бұрын
I was talking to someone below who was straight up disrespecting. I think your video was creatively put together.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+The Gaming Kitchen Thank you! I just figured you were talking to me. Sorry about the confusion! :D
@thegamingkitchen8429
@thegamingkitchen8429 8 жыл бұрын
all good, I was talking to that production dude. He probably could be older, but he comes off like a brat.
@coolcat2027
@coolcat2027 8 жыл бұрын
George Lucas' tinkering with the original Star Wars gives credence to the saying: "LESS is MORE."
@bulletbill1104
@bulletbill1104 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the palpating change. I agree with the lines, but the real actor resembles palatine much better than a lab disaster.
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 8 жыл бұрын
"Clone troopers are all the same, no defining traits or personalities." Read the Republic Commando books, you'll see that it's actually the opposite :)
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 8 жыл бұрын
Each of the Special Editions have exactly ONE change I just can't stand. "A New Hope": The CGI-Rocks. Seriously, how did R2 even squeeze in there? "The Empire strikes back": The Scene(s) unneccessarily detailing Vaders' flight from Cloud City to the Executor. Not only are they distracting, but we know that he got there by shuttle, we dont need to see it. "The Return of the Jedi": Vaders' "NNNOOOOOOOO!!!" I think that one speaks for itself.
@brenthaskins1712
@brenthaskins1712 9 жыл бұрын
FYI, some of the character line changes (e.g. "There's nowhere to go" & "You were lucky to get out of there") were either in different versions released long before the 1997 special editions or actually the original lines put back in (the latter example being one of the most notable).
@czapkafaraday7040
@czapkafaraday7040 8 жыл бұрын
George Lucas had a obsession with changing movie lines!
@DireHammer
@DireHammer 9 жыл бұрын
#1 had to be done, there's no way Hayden Christianson grew up to look like Sebastian Shaw.
@DouglastheBassist
@DouglastheBassist 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@BrickBuster2552
@BrickBuster2552 8 жыл бұрын
It actually makes a lot more sense. Anakin Skywalker died in Episode III, in Palpatine's office. The one who left was Darth Vader.
@PetersonRodrigues0
@PetersonRodrigues0 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Hammer That's the problem with the prequels.
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
+BrickBuster2552 True. Like jedis, sith tend to abandon who they were before joining their current side. Anakin is a great example of this, as he had nothing left but the dark side by the end of episode 3.
@TacSon
@TacSon 8 жыл бұрын
"Weesa Free!" Jar Jar turned Naboo into a drug house.
@Pokemanic33
@Pokemanic33 7 жыл бұрын
The blue tint on Hoth isn't just there because _snow is blue_, it's there because _blue is a cold color_. It's subtle enough that it makes the planet feel colder without intruding or hurting your eyes.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. They just took it a bit too far.
@Phoenix2312
@Phoenix2312 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek Finally finished Watching the whole video... THANK YOU! I 100% agree... I still love Star Wars, Even the Special Editions... But I 100% Agree on All those changes! They were just POINTLESS!!!!!
@captcorajus
@captcorajus 8 жыл бұрын
Have to totally disagree with you about the Boba Fett voice change. If you are at all familiar with the Clone Wars TV series you would know that they went out of their way to give all the clones individual personalities, and even looks with different haircuts and so on. Boba is a clone, so its a nice nod to that by giving him a clone voice. Most of his dialogue is throw away anyway. Its actually ONE of the changes that I like. The rest, I have to agree with you with. Good job.
@jpc5563
@jpc5563 8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, loved the clones, aswell as the new voice! I actually really liked the Clone backstory for Boba, it's like *he came from a war, he was a warrior and a soldier, now last of his kind. Takes on the job as a bounty hunter and swears to hunt down the man that killed his father.*
@JustAndre92
@JustAndre92 8 жыл бұрын
*+captcorajus* That's in the _Clone Wars_ cartoon, though. He was talking about the clones as they were in the prequel movies, and was spot-on.
@jameslearing970
@jameslearing970 8 жыл бұрын
+GodzillaGuy92 They're in the same continuity.
@JustAndre92
@JustAndre92 8 жыл бұрын
james learing Doesn't matter. The show isn't one of the movies, so someone talking about just the movies shouldn't (and, for the record, _doesn't_) have to take the show into account out of some drive to cover for yet another one of the prequels' failings.
@jameslearing970
@jameslearing970 8 жыл бұрын
GodzillaGuy92 The clones in the movies and the clones in the show are (lore wise) the exact same. There only difference would be the way they look. But that's obviously ignored when you're trying to make a universe spanning throughout many different mediums: TV (live action/animated), books (comics/novels), movies etc...
@Andy50k1
@Andy50k1 9 жыл бұрын
14:18 I must say I can't take my eyes off of that Twi'lek. O_O
@realjoemavro
@realjoemavro 9 жыл бұрын
This scene gave us not one, but two sexy Twi'leks. No complaints here. ;)
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
My only problem with the special editions is one of the things Lucas did NOT edit: Those stupid Luke and Leia kissing moments, especially in Episode 5. Why couldn't George get rid of that?! You have them making out then in the next movie you have Leia saying she always... knew...Luke...was...her....brother. Luke finds out he and Leia are siblings and does not give a frick he made out with her.... George Lucas made so many pointless editions that get WAY too much crap. Even Doug Walker was like "Why are people complaining about the Greedo Shooting First thing? It is pointless, but it is ONE SECOND IN THE MOVIE" Why, Lucas, Why? I do not like taring people down but there are so many questions that have yet to be answered. 1. Why do people complain about these things? 2. Do you believe hating will get them what they want? 3. What did George hope to gain with the stuff? 4. Was he TRYING to sabatoge himself? He pretty much just spat on his films AND fans. 5. Why am I still talking?
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
+Krookodile42 1. Yeah probably 2. When has Disney ever listened to fans' pleas?
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
+Krookodile42 3. I guess so 4. Are you sure and lol 5. Idk either
@silvussol8966
@silvussol8966 7 жыл бұрын
Leia kissed Luke specifically to piss off Han. She was mad at him and knew he kinda liked her, so she kissed Luke to make him jealous. Luke knew it too, but he just got a kiss from a pretty girl so he didn't really care lol. So much happened to them between then and RotJ that they forgot about it for the most part. Even had they remembered it in detail, they didn't know they were related when it happened and the kiss was never about her liking Luke, so it would be silly to be truly bothered by it. Greedo shooting first weakens Han as a character. Han straight up murdered Greedo, it was not self defense, it was a dick move. It shows that Han was not a nice guy, he was a smuggler who was out for himself. Which made his coming back to help Luke during the Death Star trench run all the more meaningful.
@JonathanG94
@JonathanG94 9 жыл бұрын
Your complaint on the changes of Sidious in ESB make no sense. Yeah the whole line of Vader asking how is it possible Luke is his son fine enough. Though with the recent Vader comics that have come out, it's plausible to assume that maybe Vader simply kept the knowledge of Luke Skywalker's existence from his master Sidious. Just a fun yet plausible theory. No problem with the scene of what I see.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Freemind Right, but this video was made before the comics. That's actually the one thing I HATE about the new comics, the idea that Vader confronted Luke in between Episode IV and V. In Episode V, Vader's confrontation with Luke feels like they haven't seen each other since the destruction of the Death Star. Vader has been searching endlessly for Luke, and when he finally does, it's impactful. Likewise, Luke has been searching for Vader, wanting to confront him concerning the murder of his mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and father, Anakin Skywalker. The comics kind of ruined that. But I understand what you're saying. :D
@JonathanG94
@JonathanG94 9 жыл бұрын
Personally that didn't bother me of Vader already meeting and confronting Luke. A cool bit in one of the Star Wars comics was Vader catching Luke's lightsaber only to discover that it's his old saber from the time he was Anakin Skywalker. While haven't yet read the Star Wars (2015) series, I've been addicted to the Vader comic series which is turning out to be pretty good and the other comic series' as well.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Freemind Yes! The Vader series is AMAZING. The regular Star Wars series is pretty good, and then the Princess Leia series is... dare I say... BAD. If I had a choice, the Vader series is the one to read/collect. :D
@JonathanG94
@JonathanG94 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek I love it too. So far though, Vader is the only Marvel comic series I've actually read of Star Wars as it's available to read on KZfaq without charge. I'll be trying though to read the Star Wars (2015) series as well as Kanan: The Last Padawan.
@saavanrijsinghani
@saavanrijsinghani 9 жыл бұрын
I want to point out the original abomination in the original was stupid. I don't understand what the special edition took away from that scene. If anything it made it better. Why would the Emperor dress up like that? Is it because they did not have an actor? If that is so wouldn't it make sense to change it so he would resemble the one in VI?
@vashna3799
@vashna3799 8 жыл бұрын
I honestly think George Lucas secretly despises Star Wars fans and brought all of these pointless changes to piss them off.
@rhymfre4266
@rhymfre4266 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe because some "Star Wars fans"(original trilogy spergs) get worked up over shit that doesn't matter
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
+Rhymfre True that
@rhymfre4266
@rhymfre4266 8 жыл бұрын
***** they let autism and nostalgia get to their heads
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
+Rhymfre How much you wanna get it the prequels had come out 30 years before, THEY would get the love while the OT gets more hate than Rebecca Black's Friday.
@QZXproductions
@QZXproductions 8 жыл бұрын
+Rhymfre How much you wanna get it the prequels had come out 30 years before, THEY would get the love while the OT gets more hate than Rebecca Black's Friday.
@rewriteo
@rewriteo 8 жыл бұрын
Jabba change is the absolute worst. 1) It looks horrible especially the way Han's arm passes through Jabba at one point. 2) It ruins the mystery of who Jabba is 3) It repeats alot of the dialogue from the Greedo scene 4) Jabba comes across as a total pushover who lets Han step on his tail. There is just so much wrong with this scene.
@LordoftheStrings109
@LordoftheStrings109 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a little surprised no one mentioned it but one of my least favorite changes was the addition of the deleted scene where Luke talks with his childhood friend before the attack on the death star. While it's not a bad scene in it of itself, what it replaced was so much better. Originally it was a 7 or so second scene of Luke walking alone to his x-wing, silent except for a few ambient noises. Obi-Wan had just been killed, Han is ditching him, and Leia says goodbye possibly for the last time- you can feel how alone Luke must feel in this moment before a risky battle and makes hearing Ben's voice later even more powerful. It's something so simple buy actually ends up being one of my favorite moments in the whole trilogy. Having the upbeat and smiley reunion kinda ruins the atmosphere in my opinion.
@hunterolaughlin
@hunterolaughlin 11 күн бұрын
The problem is that they still keep the scenes with Biggs in the battle and still expect us to feel sorry for Luke when Darth Vader blows up his X-wing, when Biggs could almost pass off as any of the other generic Rebel pilots killed in the battle. If you’re going to take out the scenes on Tatooine with Luke and Biggs that further explores their friendship and their reunion on Yavin IV just before the Rebel Assault on the Death Star, you might as just remove Biggs altogether and just have Luke and the other pilots refer to him by a different name, making him a completely different character instead.
@mazrimazri6101
@mazrimazri6101 8 жыл бұрын
WOW george lucas is the master of the art of ruining things
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
+Bart Homer I feel like you could argue that he didn't make the changes in order to make a profit. He made them because he wanted to improve the films.
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
***** Saying that he ruined them is overreacting.
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
***** You're right; I don't know the feeling, but that is irrelevant. How it feels to have something you knew and loved changed isn't what this is about. What it IS about is that the new versions are still good movies. I personally think that it's about which version you grew up with, 'cuz to me the old versions just look bad, even when I ignore the picture quality.
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
***** Changing it still doesn't make it bad. You're letting nostolgia cloud your judgement. The Jedi Order would be upset.
@sparksparklez
@sparksparklez 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yes I do. They aren't perfect, but if you calm down and watch it with an open mind, there's alot to like.
@anondalorian3719
@anondalorian3719 9 жыл бұрын
My favorite special edition change is actually the Hayden Christensen force ghost. I really agree with George on that one, but my least favorites are: Greedo getting a shot out at all, the horribly rendered Jabba cgi deleted scene in A New Hope with redundant dialogue, and my all time worst is Vader screaming "Noooo!" at the climax of Return of the Jedi. For the most part I'm either indifferent or actually really like all the other changes.
@Xernosam
@Xernosam 9 жыл бұрын
The continuity of Boba Fett's voice: Totally unneeded and ridiculous The continuity of The Emperor's Change in Episode V: A good change and possibly needed. Sure, he isn't as covered and looks a lot less mysterious, but, the Emperor in Episode V looks nothing like The Emperor in Episode VI. But the new Emperor, the Ian McDiarmid one, looks like the Episode VI Emperor. I believe that's needed continuity.
@hockeysong
@hockeysong 7 жыл бұрын
the special editions are fine i'd actually like them
@CharlesKnight99
@CharlesKnight99 8 жыл бұрын
If these changes are "pointless" then why do you care!
@imnormal-sl8mj
@imnormal-sl8mj 8 жыл бұрын
trololol
@rhymfre4266
@rhymfre4266 8 жыл бұрын
Autism that's why
@bestofmyeffortcustoms2581
@bestofmyeffortcustoms2581 8 жыл бұрын
+Rhymfre Really -_-
@travelsonic
@travelsonic 6 жыл бұрын
Non-sequitur - a scene change being insignificant, and whether you care or not about the change being made are not interconnected like that. #logicFail.
@Fuzzyfoot88
@Fuzzyfoot88 9 жыл бұрын
Although Greedo shooting and Hayden Jedi are the worst changes by far, to me it pales in comparison to the point that after the 1997 remastered special editions, the 2004 re-remastered dvd editions, and the 2011 re-re-remastered blu-ray editions...why do I still see green boxes around tie fighters and other ships? This is something that should have been addressed long LONG ago and has yet to be touched. George believes that adding a rock in front of R2, or adding blinking to ewoks, or adding Hayden, or adding Greedo shooting at all, is more important than actually fixing the out of date effects that are severely noticeable on the Blu's. This is why I only watch Star Wars The Despecialized editions by Harmy, or Star Wars Revisited by Adywan (which is actually the true special editions we should have gotten.)
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. I actually have a video on the channel about Star Wars Revisited. The other outdated effects are the lightsaber blades. They've barely been fixed at all.
@Fuzzyfoot88
@Fuzzyfoot88 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek Well if you get a chance, watch Star Wars Despecialized...the 2.5 version of Hope is just unbelievable....the original film meticulously restored to HD. There is a documentary about it here on youtube. Look for Star Wars Despecialized Harmy and you should find it...the only way to watch the OT now for me.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Fuzzyfoot88 It's too bad that all of his work has now gone to waste. Disney is officially releasing the Original Unaltered films on Blu Ray in HD.
@Fuzzyfoot88
@Fuzzyfoot88 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek That's all rumor, i'll believe it when I see it because they said the exact same thing 3 days after Disney acquired the rights almost 3 years ago now. The rights are tangled up with Fox is the issue. But even worse than that...look at how bad the films have gotten over the years, bad CC, DNR out the ass, its awful. Even if they do magically release the original unaltered trilogy, do you actually think it will look as good as Harmy's work? I seriously doubt it.
@BananaBeecher
@BananaBeecher 7 жыл бұрын
It makes complete sense that Hayden replaced the other guy. He appears in no other Star Wars movies and is still in VI as Darth Vader - it's not like he is being removed completely. It ties episode VI into the prequels.
@TeddyBearns
@TeddyBearns 8 жыл бұрын
so i was doing a star wars marathon for the nth time in a while and im just ready for a single tear to drop from the nostalgia from my childhood and then bam! hayden shows up.
@sdm47
@sdm47 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the theatrical version of return of the Jedi with my Aunt whenever I visited her I still have the tape She was always there to talk to when I found myself questioning my own existence, I wish she were still alive, I could use her help right now
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 2 жыл бұрын
Your Aunt Would Never Join You!
@sdm47
@sdm47 2 жыл бұрын
@@treystephens6166 It took me a little bit to get the reference not gonna lie
@treystephens6166
@treystephens6166 2 жыл бұрын
@@sdm47 Count Dooku!
@aurairl6406
@aurairl6406 7 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I like the the end Celebration for the special editions. It makes the Star Wars universe seem more connected and shows how much people hated the empire.
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 2 жыл бұрын
Because it is a better change. All this Star Geek kid did was plagiarize Hellogreedo and every other OT purist's nitpicks
@MattTheMagician23
@MattTheMagician23 9 жыл бұрын
One important point, and one I think is most important, I believe you missed upon in terms of the Anakin ghost, is that the original ghost scene conveyed the message that Anakin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan were experienced and wise in their old age, that these were Luke's father figures. The role of Luke's father was passed down from Uncle Owen to Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan to Yoda, and finally Yoda to Anakin. The Hayden Anakin ghost destroyed the original message the ghosts portrayed.
@Pegwarmers
@Pegwarmers 9 жыл бұрын
Great Job! I like a lot of your list.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you agree :D
@khyzan8527
@khyzan8527 9 жыл бұрын
No one I know notices that Vader had Eyebrows when his mask was removed. Did anyone else remember this originally?
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592 9 жыл бұрын
I do, I watched Return of the Jedi a thousand times before watching it in it's 2004 DVD version.
@noahfortner2
@noahfortner2 8 жыл бұрын
I actually like that change
@DouglastheBassist
@DouglastheBassist 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a good/ consistent change?
@dcb99filmz
@dcb99filmz 3 жыл бұрын
The original 83 theatrical version and 97 special edition had eyebrows, but they removed the eyebrows in the 04 special edition
@ThatJunkman
@ThatJunkman 7 жыл бұрын
But how would the old anakin have had hair, that always bugged me even as a kid.
@ozfan6477
@ozfan6477 6 жыл бұрын
He became a ghost. Ghosts don't have injuries. Simple as that.
@nobody.watchin
@nobody.watchin 9 жыл бұрын
"giant animated dinosaur cow" that made me laugh my ass off!
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :D
@samuelmackenzie5267
@samuelmackenzie5267 Жыл бұрын
I like Hayden’s addition to the special edition. It really brought the whole saga full circle for me. I don’t know why people complain about it so much.
@73chenj
@73chenj 9 жыл бұрын
Just saying, the Rubik's cube isn't a terrible thing.
@Maverick8t88
@Maverick8t88 7 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is that Lucas hates his creation. I think he feels trapped by them, like an actor whose been typecast. I think he is purposely screwing up Star Wars out of hatred and bitterness.
@user-dy7ls7uo9j
@user-dy7ls7uo9j 7 жыл бұрын
i cant tell if you're being serious, but I have honestly never heard such an interesting theory, ill have to look into it
@AxeKick80
@AxeKick80 7 жыл бұрын
The most egregious, to me, is the "NOOOOO!!!" when Vader picks up Palps and throws him. Aside from the fact that it's cheesy and unnecessary, it just completely takes me out of the emotion of that scene. I remember seeing Vader looking on silently, back and forth between the Emperor and Luke as the torture went on. And it was such a powerfully emotional moment went that internal struggle becomes resolve and he goes for Palpatine like a terminator (silently). The whole scene was about the inner conflict, and how powerfully you felt that on a masked(!) face as it turned back and forth, lit up by the reflection of force lightning. NOOOO. It just absolutely deflates all the power and chills you get right out of the scene.
@justicemoody
@justicemoody 7 жыл бұрын
All I wanted on the re-release was cleaned up negatives, a little colour grading and some remastered audio. Like how the faded ceiling of the Sistine Chapel was restored. Being very careful NOT to alter the underlying masterpiece. That's all it needed, just a little freshen up. That would have been perfect.
@legoroan9866
@legoroan9866 8 жыл бұрын
I agree nobody's ghost is 20 years younger than they are that's just baloney
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+Roan Cox Indeed!
@mm99101
@mm99101 9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the star wars despecialized edition it's a HD, widescreen, unaltered cut of the original trilogy made by fans it's awesome I'd highly recommend you check it out
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
michaelmerc99 Yes I have! It is definitely great! I actually am more of a fan of "Star Wars Revisited". Empire Revisited should be coming out VERY soon! :D
@mm99101
@mm99101 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek I haven't heard about star wars revised is there a noticeable difference between revisited and despecialized?
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
michaelmerc99 Yes! There definitely is. Here's my video I posted about 10 months ago on Revisited: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fpOFhadqsZe6qKOH.htmlhe big differences between Revisited and Despecialized is that Despecialized is a high quality version of the theatrical release of Star Wars, while Revisited is what the Special Editions should have been, enhancing the films rather than restoring or destroying them. :D
@mm99101
@mm99101 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek you should make a video comparing and giving your thoughts on both versions (the despecialized and revisited)
@Benception
@Benception 9 жыл бұрын
michaelmerc99 Where can I find the despecialized edition?
@Piorn
@Piorn 9 жыл бұрын
The PS1 couldn't render distances very well, so we got the iconic Silent Hill fog. Just saying that sometimes, technical limitations can do something for your work, and not everything needs to be "fixed".
@davidd1138
@davidd1138 7 жыл бұрын
The Emperor's face change was needed for continuity.
@kiwiheartpickles
@kiwiheartpickles 9 жыл бұрын
I think most of the changes made it better especially the hayden christensen appearance as Anakin's ghost. It gave the sage a better sense of closure and I like seeing the young Anakin Skywalker because it connects it to the prequels.
@blaynestaleypro
@blaynestaleypro 8 жыл бұрын
George Lucas must have done so much drugs in 1989. Somebody introduced him to coke and he lost of f*cken mind.
@darthjarjar2721
@darthjarjar2721 9 жыл бұрын
Yes! This was the video I have been waiting for, and it's here! I thought you Spooktacular video was going to be it, but this is the real deal! Great video man. P.S. Another one of my least favourite changes is adding pupils to the Ewoks. Making them blink was fine, but the pupils made them look creepy as.
@darthjarjar2721
@darthjarjar2721 9 жыл бұрын
And did you here that Episode VII is The Force Awakens?
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Yes! I forgot to give you credit D: Well, as I do many times, THANKS TO DARTH JAR JAR FOR THE IDEA! That's kind of how I get people to pay attention to these credits :P Thanks for watching! And yes, I didn't really touch on the pupils, they still give me nightmares... XD P.S. I did hear that the next film will be Star Wars, Episode VII: The Force Awakens! Guess what the next video will be... :D
@jabba820
@jabba820 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! I subbed immediately!
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm very glad that you enjoyed :D
@SuburbAllied
@SuburbAllied 9 жыл бұрын
Omg your mouth just keeps going and going and going... and going... at 10:59 you are talking about distraction, is that just the irony of the fate or is it just me? And yes, the dialog between Vader and the Emperor in the new edition IS a good change, i mean the sound of the Emperors voice when he says; "The young rebel who destroyed the Death Staaaaaaaar..." All tho, I do agree with you at the number 1, THAT ending could have been left out, since Vader was kinda old when he finally stepped over to the Bright Side... or light side... or something better anyways.
@TallMist
@TallMist 9 жыл бұрын
Um... It may just be that I just heard Jango's voice in Boba so many times before now, and that this is the first time I heard Boba's first voice, but... I gotta say, I don't like Boba's first voice. I just don't. It hurt my ears a bit and it's kind of annoying. Also, I'm pretty sure Empire was released in 1979 and I gotta say, I hate that freaky eye thing in the original cut. I mean... Ugh... If I grew up watching that eyesore on Palpatine's head, I gotta say, I'd have had nightmares about ONLY Palpatine, instead of Darth Vader and Maul. Also, here's a little tip: When you want people to hear something, try not to talk over that something to the point you can't hear the samples you're playing. You talked all over those lines from the hologram Emperor, so... Why play them if you won't let us hear? Also, as you said mere moments later, that scene did exist before... So... Why do you say that scene where Han met up with Jabba after the Greedo scene didn't happen before? I mean... I keep hearing how so many people hated that they changed Jabba to CGI in that very specific scene, so... How could it not have existed before? If it didn't, how do people remember any alternate version? Also, Hayden Christensen being the Force Ghost in 6 can be easily explained... Or at least made not as bad. People manage to... I don't know what the term for it is... they just make it seem less bad by saying that you only appear as a Force Ghost in the appearance you had when you last touched the light side. You could argue that Vader touched the light side at the end of 6 before he died when he killed the Emperor... but the problem with that is... well... He was still Vader. He was still Sith. He still technically was part of the dark side. He didn't have time to go back to the ways of the light, despite being redeemed. So it only makes sense Hayden took Shaw's place. He was still touching the light side during episode III. Maybe not at the exact moment that scene was recycled from, but still. He wasn't fully evil in the prequels. Not until he started slaughtering children. So, pretty much, any scene from before Anakin was dubbed Vader, he could still count as being part of the light.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
LastWill1000 Very well though out opinions! Very interesting. The only thing that I know for a fact is that The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980, but it was filmed in 1979 :D
@TallMist
@TallMist 9 жыл бұрын
StarGeek Oooh. So, that's where the confusion was. Kind of like how Episode 7 was filmed in 2014, but won't be released until 2015.
@iamciril
@iamciril 9 жыл бұрын
"Why do you say that scene where Han met up with Jabba after the Greedo scene didn't happen before?" It was not in the original releases.
@TallMist
@TallMist 9 жыл бұрын
iamciril If it wasn't, then how could a Jabba puppet be replaced with Jabba CGI when there was nothing to replace anyways?
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
TallMist They filmed it, but it was cut from the film. They HAD planned on adding in a stop-motion puppet in post, but didn't have time or money for it, but it was added to the Special Editions, obviously :D
@edwardnigma461
@edwardnigma461 9 жыл бұрын
Regarding the repeated lines in the Jabba scene.. When Han says to Greedo "Even I get boarded sometimes, you think I had a choice?", Greedo tells Han to "tell it to Jabba". Which is exactly what Han does. He tells it to Jabba. Hence the repeated lines. :)
@RamtroStudios
@RamtroStudios 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but did they *have* to use the same recording ripped straight out of the original scene? I know it came from the Jabba scene originally, but why didn't they re-dub the line when he says it to Greedo?
@chopperfive6798
@chopperfive6798 7 жыл бұрын
Also agree on the 'No Jabba in episode IV' - too quickly after death of Greedo and makes Jabba look like a big softie with Han literally walking all over him.
@baileyfilms9319
@baileyfilms9319 7 жыл бұрын
boba fett isn't a clone of jango, it's jango's son. thats why i find the voice change unnecsary. it also took an acting credit away from the orignal actor. I think if i was in a star wars movie and got uncredited and replaced by someone else i would be very angry.
@realevilcorgi
@realevilcorgi 8 жыл бұрын
You stole so much of this from HelloGreedo.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
realevilcorgi I didn't "steal" anything from HelloGreedo. These were my own opinions. The fact that HelloGreedo and I had the same opinions simply shows that these are the worst changes.
@realevilcorgi
@realevilcorgi 8 жыл бұрын
StarGeek yeah well you said nearly the exact same things about the changes. Like, word for word phrases. Anyone who doesn't believe me, go watch HelloGreedo's videos.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+realevilcorgi I certainly wasn't referencing anything from his videos. I might have been inspired by his videos, but I never once looked back after seeing them the one time I did. When making the video, I was writing my own opinions.
@james98q4
@james98q4 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, this video is perfect and sums up my feelings on the "altered" editions. Thank you very much for creating and posting it! (Please don't go back and make any enhancements at a later date) xD
@MrJohnnysynth
@MrJohnnysynth 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you didn't mention the Bantha herd trotting through the desert (as the heroes are being taken to the Sarlaac pit), it is one of the very FEW alterations I do like.
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 8 жыл бұрын
+Johnny synth Nothing wrong with widening the scope of the films!
@kartoonix
@kartoonix 9 жыл бұрын
I'm happy J.J. Abrams is directing 7,8 & 9
@Nitrobotti
@Nitrobotti 9 жыл бұрын
No he's not directing 8 and 9.
@TallMist
@TallMist 9 жыл бұрын
Nitromian I heard that he was.
@Nitrobotti
@Nitrobotti 9 жыл бұрын
LastWill1000 You heard wrong.
@TallMist
@TallMist 9 жыл бұрын
Nitromian Could I perhaps get a source for this?
@Nitrobotti
@Nitrobotti 9 жыл бұрын
LastWill1000 screenrant.com/star-wars-episode-8-rian-johnson-director/
@oldttt7283
@oldttt7283 7 жыл бұрын
dude are you serious? I'm glad they changed the emperors face the original looked like shit and it's the same actor, stop being a original freak
@silvussol8966
@silvussol8966 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the face he had such an issue with it was how they screwed with the dialogue.
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592
@literatureandfilmaremyjam4592 9 жыл бұрын
Actually, I can ignore all of the special edition changes, that's why I don't really mind them. The one that it is quite difficult for me to ignore, is the one of Darth Vader screaming "No" before saving Luke and killing the Emperor, when I saw that for the first time I was like: "Wait what? That wasn't there before" and being honest I think it diminished the power that, that particular scene withheld.
@ANZProductions
@ANZProductions 9 жыл бұрын
Wow man, you're gaining subscribers fast!
@StarGeek
@StarGeek 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's pretty exciting! And you are too!
@ryanhillaryofficial
@ryanhillaryofficial 9 жыл бұрын
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