[Star Wars vs. Warhammer 40k] 501st Ambush the Imperial Guard | Cinematic Battle Sim

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A hidden republic stronghold has been spotted deep inside of a canyon. The base appears to be abandoned, but Imperial commanders are taking no chances. They have deployed an armored column to seize the base, but the crafty clones have prepared a nasty surprise...
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@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 2 жыл бұрын
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@flirp9176
@flirp9176 2 жыл бұрын
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@jozefkozon4520
@jozefkozon4520 2 жыл бұрын
It ain't warking that way tho. Naither personal armour nor tactics.
@eightball6219
@eightball6219 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Army of the Republic: Minimum causalities, maximum damage Average Imperial Guard: Maximum causalities, maximum damage (with bayonets) Death Korps of Krieg: 100% casualties, war crimes
@Methyll
@Methyll 2 жыл бұрын
Blood Raven: Minimum Casualties, Maximum Lootage, Orks: Maximum firepower, -100% accuracies
@grimreminder5038
@grimreminder5038 2 жыл бұрын
"Remember it's only a war crime, the first time!" - Unknown Krieg Commisar
@williamstott1391
@williamstott1391 2 жыл бұрын
But yet they still win
@Aaron-io8vw
@Aaron-io8vw 2 жыл бұрын
DATS NOT HOW USE SPELLZ DAKKA UMIE!
@heathermillsphantomlimb9314
@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 2 жыл бұрын
Also Death Korps of Krieg: 20 AT-AT’s marching on our position? SHOVELS AT THE READY!
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
Guardsmen: "We're surrounded!" Captain: "Good! We can fire in all directions!"
@HaloLight02
@HaloLight02 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 2 жыл бұрын
Trooper: "Sir! We have them surrounded!" Clone Commander: "You fools! That's when their at their strongest!!!"
@epsilon-1138
@epsilon-1138 2 жыл бұрын
Wait that's kriegsmans line.
@ivancolonna7520
@ivancolonna7520 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, a U.S. Marine quote within the 41st, or 42nd millennium of the dark future.
@sercravenmohead3631
@sercravenmohead3631 2 жыл бұрын
@@GenericProtagonist118 That’s actually a principal in Sun Tzu’s art of war, he was never a fan of surrounding an enemy because they’d fight to the death or at the least you’d lose more men so by giving the enemy an Avenue to retreat they would flee the fight.
@josephjohnson5415
@josephjohnson5415 2 жыл бұрын
Both: "For the Emperor! Guardsmen: wait, what? Your emperor is an evil sith space wizard! Stormtrooper: evil? Your emperor is a literal God that a thousand souls are sacrificed everyday! Guard: So? Trooper: so... Both: "for the emperor!"
@Callum_Summer0972
@Callum_Summer0972 2 жыл бұрын
Those are clone troopers not storm troopers
@requiemlul3140
@requiemlul3140 2 жыл бұрын
Guardsman: That’s the only way for us to keep space travel!
@josephjohnson5415
@josephjohnson5415 2 жыл бұрын
@@Callum_Summer0972 they are all generic star wars bad guys. Their armor is useless and their constantly beaten by the imperial guard, which has even less value of human life. I dont care what they're called other than suck.
@josephjohnson5415
@josephjohnson5415 2 жыл бұрын
@@requiemlul3140 laughs in space folding...
@requiemlul3140
@requiemlul3140 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephjohnson5415 Yeah but at least our Emperor isn’t ACTUALLY evil
@spamhonx56
@spamhonx56 2 жыл бұрын
Clone: we haven't taken losses like this since geonosis! Guardsman: we haven't taken losses like this since tuesday. Let's be honest... one of these factions is going to look at the casualties of this battle and call it acceptable.
@Azaghal1988
@Azaghal1988 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, more like "negligable". The World of Krieg alone likely produces more troops than the Clone Army can muster, the Numbers in Star Wars are laughingly low. The "Grand Army of the Republic" is numbered at 3 Million Clones at the beginning of the War, thats not even as much as the bigger Nations on Earth can field during Wartime. Even at the hight of the Clone wars, the Republic Senate had a big debate about 5 Million additional Clones, that's an Ant to be stomped by the Billions and Billions of Imperial Guard Soldiers.
@sercravenmohead3631
@sercravenmohead3631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Azaghal1988 Well, the clone army is high quality. If you look at the CIS they had billions of droids and their doctrine of war was overwhelming the enemy so fighting the Imperial Guard is very similar, tactics are WW1 at it’s best, not to mention the Tau Empire is also comparatively small and the Imperium took heavy losses. The reason the republic had a hard time in the clone wars is because it’s vast in comparison to the CIS, over 10,000 systems to try and defend. They are way better equipped than the IoM in terms of travel and communication so the clone army can deploy anywhere anytime thanks to the navigated hyperlanes.
@szarekhthesilent2047
@szarekhthesilent2047 2 жыл бұрын
@@sercravenmohead3631 If WW1???? Catachan, Talar, Haraoni Warhawks...
@Myuutsuu85
@Myuutsuu85 2 жыл бұрын
For a Cadian regiment, that is hardly acceptable. Each of those men would be considered a veteran in most other regiments. A valuable soldier, worthy of preservation. That "tactical" approach would see the commander executed, if he dosn't get fragged by his own soldiers first. Even a Commissar would yell at them to take cover.
@sercravenmohead3631
@sercravenmohead3631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Myuutsuu85 Cadia is literally the gold standard, everyone always sucks off Krieg but there is a difference between discipline and insanity. Kriegers are well known for marching in overlapping fields of fire, in lore they fight like B1 Battle droids marching into a killzone. Chadians actually give a shit, they don’t break from combat and use common sense.
@stickks9875
@stickks9875 2 жыл бұрын
And somewhere out in the far … far reaches of space… there is a space marine… screaming at the top of his lungs “IT IS THE BANEBLLLAAADDEEE” and an imperial general still wondering where the hell his 100 baneblades are
@elimgarak8785
@elimgarak8785 2 жыл бұрын
Then the Archmagos has a stroke upon hearing that he lost 100 Baneblades
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 2 жыл бұрын
And on the opposite side of the galaxy, A Warlord screams back as loud as he can "OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BAWKSES", while his daemon weapon accepts being abandoned in the dirt for millennia
@romancapulus5577
@romancapulus5577 2 жыл бұрын
Commissar: “They’ve got us surrounded. The poor bastards.”
@hekmatyar4476
@hekmatyar4476 2 жыл бұрын
Commissar*
@covenant_mog05
@covenant_mog05 2 жыл бұрын
501st: we just wiped a thousand man and armoured column this would surely put a wrench in their plans. Commisar: i just remembered, what happened to that patrol we sent out?
@angtaonggala
@angtaonggala 2 жыл бұрын
“Isnt that an obvious trap?” Nah the Emperor protects
@jacobpeterson4071
@jacobpeterson4071 2 жыл бұрын
"But a loaded boltgun never hurt either".
@sargentpickles3777
@sargentpickles3777 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial guard with 95% casualties: "*Ah yes, V I C T O R Y.*"
@S3verusMyG
@S3verusMyG 2 жыл бұрын
You need to remember, a 95% of one battalion is only a 0.095% to the rest of the Imperium.
@sargentpickles3777
@sargentpickles3777 2 жыл бұрын
@@S3verusMyG alright you have a good point
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 2 жыл бұрын
@@S3verusMyG More like a 0.0000095% seeing how quickly they burn through battalions and still find the manpower and resources to recover!
@Darqshadow
@Darqshadow 10 ай бұрын
Humanity has a million worlds, many of those have millions to BILLIONS of people on them, leading to trillions if not more of humanity. The Guard alone has to number in the upper hundred million. The pscae marines are a few million with the thousands of chapters, and there is the Navy, Sisters, and Mechanicus. Yea.. the Imperium can lose a battalion to take a world and see it as an insignificant price to pay
@Methyll
@Methyll 2 жыл бұрын
when you ambush your enemies but somehow suffer more casualties then the ones getting ambushed you know you've done fucked up
@alexduta7469
@alexduta7469 2 жыл бұрын
The moment I saw the Baneblade rolling in, I knew the end result. Solid action!
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 2 жыл бұрын
Also did the Clones did a Banzai charge at the end lol
@yousuck1858
@yousuck1858 2 жыл бұрын
BANEBLADE BANEBLADE LET IT RIP!!!
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass 2 жыл бұрын
Ready to unleash eleven barrels of Hell! All cannons at the ready! *FIRE!!!!*
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 2 жыл бұрын
I mean let's be fair, as impressive as the Baneblade is, The Empire has numerous equally as impressive and powerful vehicles. I'd be interested in seeing this battle on a larger scale. Whilst they're certainly the underdogs, The Empire is one of the few other fictional armies outside of 40K that stand a chance against the Imperium. I could see the Imperium suffering enough losses that they would be willing to do some negotiation with them.
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS the thing is the imperium are the masters of attrition warfare And however powerful the empire are, i as a Star Wars fan (if you couldn’t tell by my profile picture) would doubt the imperium would lose enough forces to be willing to negotiate
@This_side_of_the_internet
@This_side_of_the_internet 2 жыл бұрын
"We have more troops than you have ammo" - Imperial Guards
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 2 жыл бұрын
The guard " for everyone of us that dies 100 more shall join him in secs"
@spencervance8484
@spencervance8484 2 жыл бұрын
In those situations youd want things that do more bang for your buck...in other words warcrimes and terrorism
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
As the Imperium Crusade on the Star Wars galaxy rages on, the Imperial forces who landed on Tatooine, discovered a hidden Republic stronghold has been spotted deep inside of a canyon. The base appears to be abandoned, but Imperial commanders are taking no chances. They have deployed an armored column to seize the base, but the crafty Clone Troopers of the 501st Legion under General Anakin Skywalker have prepared a nasty surprise for the invaders. Despite their white and blue colors, the Clones managed to keep themselves hidden from the Guardsmen who are marching in tight formation with their column of Leman Russes and a Basilisk. The Imperials approached the destroyed tank and discovers live explosives attached to it before they are consumed in a huge explosion, shocking their comrades. Beginning the ambush, the Clone Troopers opened fire on the Imperial forces with rocket launchers and heavy blaster fire. Taking casualties, the Guardsmen returned fire and fought back against their enemies in all direction, killing scores of Clones from the High Ground they are on. The Guardsmen took cover behind the Leman Russes and covered each other's back as they and the vehicles unleashed hell upon the 501st Legion soldiers who started losing more of their brothers despite having the High Ground and the element of surprise on their side. However, the 501st Legion ambushers received reinforcements as they advanced upon the Imperials in front of them and opened fire immediately. However, the Imperials fought back and held their ground despite being pressured by the Clones' three way ambush. Regardless however, the Guardsmen requested for Heavy Armor and he received confirmation that they will arrive within 4 minutes. Now the Imperials will have to hold the line for 4 minutes and survive until backup shows up. Even with the loss of their brothers and sisters in arms, they continue to fight on for the Emperor of Mankind on a galaxy far far away that they are going to conquer, claim and colonize for the Imperium, and they will persevere and prevail no matter what. The Clones pressed on the offensive against the Imperials but they are quickly shot down in droves. The Imperials are reminded too much of the Death Korps of Krieg after knowing with disgust that the Clones are an army of mass-produced humans whose only purpose is to fight for a cowardly Republic that refuses to commit its own citizens, the vile xenos and the traitorous humans, to defend it from their righteous Crusade. The 501st Legion receives two TX-130 Saber-class Fighter Tanks from the Republic base and they assaulted the besieged Imperial forces, destroying another Leman Russ. While the remnants of the ambush unit kept up their attack but are all wiped out like the Clone Trooper with a Z-6 Rotary Blaster Cannon did before he was shot down by lasgun fire. The Clones took cover fighting the TX-130s and with more reinforcements pouring out from the Republic base, advanced upon the Imperials who are losing more men and ground. The Imperials and Clones kept on exchanging fire at each other and lost many comrades. But the tide turns against the 501st Legion as the Imperial forces received backup of new Guardsmen forces arriving to aid them and push back the Clone Troopers. The TX-130s opened fire on them and scored a dozen kills before they are overwhelmed and destroyed. The Guardsmen pressed forward towards the Republic base where the Clone Troopers readied themselves against their charge, and engaged them. Despite their heavy barrage, the Imperials are advancing and never stopping at all, finally reaching the entrance of the Republic base and attacked the Clones trying to defend it. Now the Clones are suffering the taste of their own medicine and their ambush on the Imperials have failed miserably. To make things worse for the 501st Legion who are trying to hold back their enemies' attack on their base, a Baneblade appears after 4 minutes of arrival is up to back up the Imperials and fired one powerful shot that decimated the Clones, leaving a huge crater and piles of gore and blood behind. The 501st Legion desperately attempts one last charge on the Imperials as they ran towards them guns blazing on them and bring as many Guardsmen down with them. It was all in vain in the end, and they are completely wiped out to the last Clone, resulting in Imperial Guard tactical victory. With the defeat of the 501st Legion and failure of an ambush, General Anakin Skywalker is forced to order what's left of his men to retreat and escape from the Republic base that is already lost. At best, they will have to resort to guerrilla warfare until the Grand Army of the Republic relieves them with any kind of reinforcements despite Kamino is too busy trying to mass produce more Clones and the Senate is debating whether or not they should conscript Republic citizens into the military. While Anakin Skywalker has no love for Tatooine where he was once a slave in the past, the people who live on this planet do not deserve to go through the atrocities done by the Imperium who have occupied and decimated worlds of its populations before converting them as their own territories.
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
That is what I say, the only way for the Republic to continue fighting is for it to become the Galactic Empire but without the name and to become more militarized. I can see a future where TK troopers fighting side by side with clones, droids and Jedi against the Imperiumn. Even the Jedi they will be come fallen jedi like the comics and TCW during the battles. I am the same guy, if you remember me XD
@coolchrisable
@coolchrisable 2 жыл бұрын
sweet some good lore
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 2 жыл бұрын
@@jager2749 to add, hyperspace is way more reliable than warp, so republic got that going for them.
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
@@xninewxw7559 why?
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 2 жыл бұрын
@@jager2749 with warp you have to deal with chaos, with hyperspace it is way more reliavle
@Anya-up4pv
@Anya-up4pv 2 жыл бұрын
"The 501st never runs" Now would be a good time to learn how
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically the best way for the Republic to fight the Imperium is to fight them as if they are later Rebels with guerilla warfare as their only real advantage on the defense is speed (mass production of clones also helps but that doesn't solve the firepower issue and the lack of heavy shock troops who are battle hardened veterans), they are massively outgunned, massively lack the experience (at least when it comes to the elites) and the Imperium somehow managed to maintain a Galactic spanning Empire that is slowly degrading socially and technologically and being beset on all sides from inside and outside its borders for 10,000 years.
@apparentlyjeremy
@apparentlyjeremy 2 жыл бұрын
Forick Grimaldus thats what they did in this video, and honestly the 501st shoulda taken a W here. They had the guardsmen surrounded here and for some reason had mostly regular infantry to ambush an armored column with a large infantry escort close to each other instead of demolition experts only. Would make a lot more sense to have mostly rpg clone guys there who would follow the rocket volley up with detonators while snipers fire from the base as the remaining guard force is engaged with the republic tanks. Just cant wrap my head around sending hundreds of infantry without armored support against a column of tanks
@NotNormal654
@NotNormal654 8 ай бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 That wouldn’t work because the Republic had a centralized military and a centralized structure so guerrila warfare doesn’t work. The rebels were decentralized and could easily use geurrila warfare
@arbiter690
@arbiter690 2 жыл бұрын
“It is been said the 501st got the best in the war, we also got the worst.” - 501st journal
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
SUPER TRUE
@thetomcat_dude1588
@thetomcat_dude1588 2 жыл бұрын
The name's Rex... But you will call me captain or sir.
@arbiter690
@arbiter690 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetomcat_dude1588 Sir yes sir!
@thetomcat_dude1588
@thetomcat_dude1588 2 жыл бұрын
@@arbiter690 I'm commander Cody, your new Boss
@JCDenton2012Modder
@JCDenton2012Modder 2 жыл бұрын
Storm Trooper: "This armor doesn't protect you from anything!" Imperial Guardsman: "Ah, you noticed. XD"
@elishafollet5347
@elishafollet5347 Жыл бұрын
Clone troopers,
@notrius7754
@notrius7754 Жыл бұрын
Clone Troopers, also thier armor doesn't protect them from anything either if im not wrong, the only purpouse of their armor is to protect them from environment and such, thats why they die so easly.
@anthonyrodriguez8788
@anthonyrodriguez8788 10 күн бұрын
@@notrius7754 honestly thats just Kanan being salty that he has to wear trooper armor. Plastoid armor is designed to dissipate the energy of a blaster bolt across you're entire body and make you pass out as a result instead of getting a hole in your chest. its why sometimes you see Stormtroopers who are still alive in Rebels and Rogue 1 after getting shot at close range.
@jhonatannoriegadehere974
@jhonatannoriegadehere974 2 жыл бұрын
I think the part where like a hundreds clone troopers rush is not too clone-ish, they have lesser numbers so they behave like it, they’d have stood back and fire within their positions, not rush. The imperial guard on the other side WOULD have done that, as they are always suicidal.
@Noah-zz8uw
@Noah-zz8uw 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It gets a bit cliche knowing that most of these videos always depict Clones without artillery, dedicated armor, or actual tactics, and as such it always results in hundreds of Clones standing in the open as artillery, or Space Marine drop pods rain down. In this case charging a Baneblade and dying. No Turbotanks/Juggernauts, no AT-TEs with mass driver cannons/railguns, no ion weapons, no squad shields, and of course the Hover Tanks that are included are underpowered and never fire rockets, or demonstrate that they have speed and firepower easily rivaling that of Eldar Tanks (which have been known to wreak utter havoc on Imperium armor formations). I suppose maybe the mod simply doesn't have those things though. More realistically, I think the Clones who were undetected, behind cover would've opened up with dozens of Thermal Detonators contained in those backpacks they all had, in addition to RPS-6 Missile Launchers, and the pre-placed explosives. After the opening salvo, Clones from extreme distances would begin sniping the Guardsmen below who were caught in the open, using their targeting systems, skill, and rangefinders, which all of the Clones seemed to have in this video as well. Within minutes most of the Imperial armor would likely be decimated considering they were traveling in a valley, and the Clones had them surrounded. I doubt a tank as large and slow as a Baneblade would arrive in mere minutes undetected either, or that a plethora of anti tank weapons wouldn't be used against it, including Ion Weapons. Ultimately, it would probably be a minuscule loss for the Imperium, but it would be a loss considering they are fighting the elite 501st Legion (with TONS of battle experience against Droids, Pirates, PDFs, technologically superior enemies like the Umbarans, etc.), who have set up a base and fortified the surrounding terrain. It doesn't help that the Imperial forces are surrounded, but all of this is just how I think it would go down :)
@Gdsryrox
@Gdsryrox 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-zz8uw kind of easy to see the the creator is more into i Warhammer and focused on having them win and making big battles. While in the end the clones would probably lose to shear enemy numbers would be more interesting to see them use better tactics to see how each faction fights differently.
@CoolMyron
@CoolMyron 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-zz8uw The creator is bias. That is clear. But the mods themselves are not on the same level of completion. The cis and Republic have like 10 vehicles combined and half of them do not work or they flip every second.
@MandoDaras
@MandoDaras 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noah-zz8uw It would be interesting to see a battle with the 21st Nova Corp's Galactic Marines as they are also an elite clone force (the most effective of the GAR I think).
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 2 жыл бұрын
The Guard varies too much to know for sure: a big part of the problem in fighting the Guard is that you can never tell when you're going to be fighting a bad general who just throws bodies at a problem, or a brilliant one who will have drop troops or mortars reigning down ten seconds after the shooting starts. Clone Troopers will easily defeat the former, but the latter would be completly beyond their experince, because Droids don't use such fluid tactics. Just as an example, there was one case where Dark Elf raiders cut an Imperial detachment to pieces in an ambush, and then retreated right into a horde of Guardsmen, because the Mechanicus calculated their likely path and built a wall of Guard around it. Dark Eldar usually find the Guard a joke, but the exceptions can thus be ruinous.
@deathmourne1
@deathmourne1 2 жыл бұрын
A complete victory with minimal losses to the guardsmen! Though there will be heads rolling for the loss of valuable leman russ tanks and the chimeras and the Basilisk!
@pliskinishmael7190
@pliskinishmael7190 2 жыл бұрын
Clone troopers: We have 6 million clones ready to die for the republic! Imperial Guard: "Looks at the Trillion of souls ready to die for the Emperor" Haha, *thats cute*
@davis90a97
@davis90a97 2 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of the Republic putting up a good fight, but losing the war of attrition due to the abysmal zealotry of the Imperium.
@ahmadrahman456
@ahmadrahman456 2 жыл бұрын
The only alternative to atleast hold the imperium is simply conscript the population of the Republic which is obviously a logical solution and Clones are very expensive. A good example is that it take 12 years for a clone to get prepared and a lot of genetically coding which is expensive plus you have to give them 2x the pay then an ordinary recruit soldiers where as you training a soldiers only takes you 2 years with minimum expenses an zero genetically coding.
@nicholaswallen8147
@nicholaswallen8147 2 жыл бұрын
Abysmal? U mean glorious?
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadrahman456 i'm pretty sure lasts batchs of Clones aged even quicker
@thatoneinfidel5481
@thatoneinfidel5481 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fulcrox Thats true. By the last year of the clone war the republic was using different cloning methods along side the Kaminoen one. This produced combat ready clones within 6 months to a year. The problem though was that these clones were not nearly as skilled as the first batches from Kamino. Clone troopers were produced to be the best of the best, the cream of the cream of the crop. But as the saying goes in the guard "quantity has a quality of its own."
@Gdsryrox
@Gdsryrox 2 жыл бұрын
That is more or less how it would go. Tech wise the SW universe is much more advanced with better weapons and vehicles, you could probably expect to see them win in space combat to a certain extent but lose to shear number. Only way SW could really win is if they went in on fully droid production and start spamming out things like the super battle driod en mass, which they could have done if the clone wars wasn’t a more proxy war made by the Sith.
@rz5547
@rz5547 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that this is playing along with the imperium: 1) the clones that set up the ambush are practically devoid of heavy anti-tank weapons, although they were clearly going to attack the squad with armored vehicles. 2) when the attack starts, the first and last vehicles in the convoy are destroyed first, which does not allow the rest of the vehicles to maneuver. Clones don't do this. 3) soldiers with rifles and machine guns should only attack enemy infantry, not vehicles that cannot be harmed. 4) if an ambush is planned, then a direct attack from the clone base should have started as soon as the shooting began. That is, as soon as the bomb exploded, then simultaneously with the shooting of the soldiers on the hill, the main forces of the clones should have attacked. 5) As far as I understand, clones are attacking a separate detachment of the enemy. Reinforcements for the Imperium will arrive after the timer expires. Then where did the guardsmen come from, superior to the original detachment? 6) it looks like the clones from this mod do not have a weapon capable of damaging Baneblade. That is, it was possible to simply release this tank with the same result. 7) why do clones keep attacking imperial troops instead of retreating to a base that has cover?
@hallowedbeyourdays
@hallowedbeyourdays 2 жыл бұрын
I'm suspecting neither have actually met the other group to an extent of knowing the other's capabilities enough to know tactics like that would work. Ambush this may be, this all just screams 'probing attack' on the Clones' behalf.
@eichler721
@eichler721 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Guardsmen vs as the Astartes usually just decimate the opposition with ease. The Guardsmen always have a good pitched battle.
@S3verusMyG
@S3verusMyG 2 жыл бұрын
The Guardsmen and Astartes both decimate. One just takes longer.
@eichler721
@eichler721 2 жыл бұрын
@@S3verusMyG the Guardsmen may win but it's a pitched fun battle as the Astartes crush them.
@khairallahdh
@khairallahdh 2 жыл бұрын
To put into perspective, there were about 200,000 clones in the clone army active at any point. There are estimated to be trillions of imperial guard. While the clones would probably win 1v1 or maybe even 2v1. They can’t win 200v1. In the siege of Vraks alone over 14 million imperial guard died.
@henerymahlum1577
@henerymahlum1577 Жыл бұрын
If this video was at least somewhat accurate, then they would've lost simply because of the fact that they have 100+ ready to fire and in a hard to hit position
@henerymahlum1577
@henerymahlum1577 Жыл бұрын
But I don't get how they one shot the clones, but the clones have more powerful plasma blasters
@henerymahlum1577
@henerymahlum1577 Жыл бұрын
If they were in full armor, then it would be a challenge, but they aren't, so the clones could just peirce right through their armor or legs
@MaikelJayksoon
@MaikelJayksoon Жыл бұрын
​​@@henerymahlum1577for reference, the shot from an imperial lasgun is about as strong as a .50 (basing this comparison on many descriptions of lasguns popping heads like balloons, ripping off limbs with one shot and so on) while the blasters in Star Wars mostly just singe coin-sized holes in their targets - still very lethal, but we have seen many characters, named and unnamed, survive a blaster shot In the vid, though, the main issue is the balancing between these two separate mod packs, with the 40k one decently portraying 40k stuff as powerful as it is in the lore, while all the guns in the SW one are weaker than they should be (played both of them
@henerymahlum1577
@henerymahlum1577 Жыл бұрын
@MaikelJayksoon the DC-15A if set at full power it could leave a 0.5 meter hole through its opponent
@juggalox1000
@juggalox1000 2 жыл бұрын
Chaos Gods: *Plotting* The Father, The Son, The Daughter: “These mortals even more insane then ours, they are bereft of common sense.” The Mother: “Nom nom?” *Eats another third of the Galaxy*
@martonmakhult3416
@martonmakhult3416 2 жыл бұрын
CloneCommander: Give up, we have the high ground! ImperialCommissar: You underestimate my power..
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@gergokerekes4550
@gergokerekes4550 2 жыл бұрын
IT IS THE BANEBLADE! I love how you can see with each episode that it is improving, new angles, new ideas. keep it up !
@jhonatannoriegadehere974
@jhonatannoriegadehere974 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, guardsman fighting an enemy who’s gun cant one-shot their armor!
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 2 жыл бұрын
@@arowan8170 Ok Buttermilk Bob.
@jhonatannoriegadehere974
@jhonatannoriegadehere974 2 жыл бұрын
@@arowan8170 El pepe
@imaran1303
@imaran1303 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteTheGrouch Princess Laia survived a Clone laser blast with minor burns, and she didn't wear any armor at all, so yeah, a Guardsmen could tank a few of those no problem. Try again, Majorkill fanboy.
@PeteTheGrouch
@PeteTheGrouch 2 жыл бұрын
@@imaran1303 "she didn't wear any armor at all" Dude... don't you know? _"Leia"_ was wearing the best armour of them all- _Plot armour._
@Memelord1117
@Memelord1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeteTheGrouch and it was in the shoulder
@CactusCowboyDan
@CactusCowboyDan 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! Even when the clones get the drop on the Imperium and have first blood. They still loose and get slaughtered. I'm starting to think this guy just does not want to give those clones a win. Not even once.
@xertx1177
@xertx1177 2 жыл бұрын
That seems like the case for every single one of these videos
@Yishaiification
@Yishaiification 2 жыл бұрын
Dunno what you mean: Clone: "sir, we fortified this position perfectly" Captain: "good, good. Now walk out of this door." Clone: "but there is no cover there" Captain: ":D move your ass." Sounds realistic and reasonable to me.
@bigc2770
@bigc2770 2 жыл бұрын
Fix Bayonet Guardmens, Charge A single guardmen charging straight to a TX-130 Saber tank of the republic with his trusty lasgun and his bayonet attached, the first. stab make the saber tank explode, truly the finest weapon of the Emperium of man AVE IMPERATOR PRAISE TO THE GOD EMPEROR
@Bluesonofman
@Bluesonofman 2 жыл бұрын
Man Emperor*
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 2 жыл бұрын
You get a like because the joke was witty and smart. God, thanks for the chuckle, the rest of this comments section is just full of all kinds of salt.
@Peter_Turbo4
@Peter_Turbo4 2 жыл бұрын
The space Marines are the Spearhead of the Imperium The Guard is the Sledgehammer
@scottland8698
@scottland8698 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the huge wave of Las fire towards the end
@TheRyderShotgunn
@TheRyderShotgunn 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Guardsman: (looks up) hey, it just me or are those a bunch of shiny plastic helmets on top a' those rocks?
@elishafollet5347
@elishafollet5347 Жыл бұрын
Imperial guard2 : nah man u just trippin we fine
@jkbscopes1233
@jkbscopes1233 2 жыл бұрын
clones: exist baneblade: "so you have chosen death"
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
okay, i'm gonna call BS on that one as nice as the map was the situation should have been a forgone conclusion. the Imperial Guards' position was really bad, a very easily defended and blocked line of advance, and they should have been slaughtered. instead, the clones just charge out of thief PERFECTLY GOOD fortress for no reason and get slaughtered. furthermore, there was no artillery on that fortress, not even a basic mortar, and they repeatedly ignored those chimeras that were causing most of the casualties.
@nikkimabanlongeval601
@nikkimabanlongeval601 2 жыл бұрын
yep, and where were the big tanks? there should be at least 1 in that fortress
@novaiscool1
@novaiscool1 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkimabanlongeval601 yeah clones battle doctrine would have had at least an ATTE on the field with them if not more, and given the defensive nature of this battle some form of air support doing bombing runs on the valley.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
Clones and Stormtroopers have charged at the enemy in open ground in both Epispde 2 and Disney 3D
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
@@novaiscool1 mines would be nice too! that entire ravine should be read to blow if needed. We also saw zero E-webs.
@finnl6887
@finnl6887 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly like the stupid as fuck tactics the clones used literally all the time
@ragingidiot2842
@ragingidiot2842 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter how many soldiers you have. The Imperium of Man will *always* have more.
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 2 жыл бұрын
More bodies on the ground maybe lol
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wongseifu548 more bodies than ammo though, thats what counts
@chengken000
@chengken000 2 жыл бұрын
digging the first person shots, really changes it up!
@prinzoyro6886
@prinzoyro6886 2 жыл бұрын
To be fully fair, while the Star Wars universe has a chance to win a smaller surprise battle against the Imperial Guard, on a planetary scale unless they somehow outnumber the entire Imperial Guard and the Empire can't send in reinforcements, they can't win. On a galactic scale though, it's literally impossible to compare Warhammer 40k to any other sci-fi universe, considering how crazy strong some factions are.
@DreamsHorizon-qm2hg
@DreamsHorizon-qm2hg 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 "i have to take cover" proceed to run out in the open
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 2 жыл бұрын
man some Y-wings coming in to carpet bombing that vallet would end that fast.
@Denterify2
@Denterify2 2 жыл бұрын
Well it seems that the Republic already lost the fleet fight, sidenote, I would realy like to see some aerial fights in the current scenario ^^
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 2 жыл бұрын
@@Denterify2 can the engine even do aerial fights though?
@Denterify2
@Denterify2 2 жыл бұрын
@@xninewxw7559 you mean of the Y-Wing? Should since it´s used in the series, books and movies for both space and planetary bombing and torpedo runs.
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 2 жыл бұрын
@@Denterify2 that would be cool.
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 2 жыл бұрын
@@Denterify2 yes the Y-wing from the books and tv series and movies. it makes sense either that or a joint Republic and Separatist Alliance to battle the 40k forces so both Y-wings and Hyena bombers.
@CT-Clone
@CT-Clone 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Guard: Just another Monday.
@Alarak_
@Alarak_ 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Tuesday XD
@robertstudley297
@robertstudley297 2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense. The clone army is having trouble with frontal assault wins so they'd change up tactics. Clone wars is full of clones who used a variety of tactics.
@phoenixx913
@phoenixx913 2 жыл бұрын
By changing tactics do you mean rushing out of a open doorway right into open fire? The battle wasn't really set up in the clones favor it's 40k favored per usual.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@phoenixx913 You do know Clones actually do rush out in open battle in Star Wars The Clone Wars show
@JakeBaldwin1
@JakeBaldwin1 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly these battles get boring really fast. Who's going to win? Probably the guys with actual heavy tanks and ten times the numbers. These battles are extremely 40k favored, and it is boring.
@willconn3620
@willconn3620 2 жыл бұрын
Ambushing an armor column with minimal vehicle support and almost no anti of their own. Either the one controlling the clones is an idiot or this is bias as fuck. Not to mention the battle ends with the majority of the clones rushing in from the front anyway, so the ambush is moot.
@Noah-zz8uw
@Noah-zz8uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 well that's when they are led by Jedi whom they are programmed to follow, even if it means death. Jedi were not present here, so I believe the Clones would've used the tactics they were trained with, or at least adhered to the "ambush and pick off" tactic, especially because all of them had DC-15As, binoculars, and scopes perfect for sharpshooting. Additionally, those backpacks are typically filled with Thermal Detonators, so I'd like to imagine the Clones would've opened up with a bit more bang, but that's just me :)
@hellerdjoplup2652
@hellerdjoplup2652 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed it! Only one recommendation squad composition. Would like to see more specialist units in the battles. Things like missile launchers and z-6 blasters were great, but just disappeared towards the end. Imperial guard plasma guns would also be good. Very thematic!
@ARandomCustodian
@ARandomCustodian 2 жыл бұрын
No clone infantry weapon could even have a chance of harming a BEHN BLEHD anyways.
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARandomCustodian But a barrage of AT-TEs and Clone Cannons can
@ARandomCustodian
@ARandomCustodian 2 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 Not even that
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@ARandomCustodian So bombardment by Y-Wing fighters
@ARandomCustodian
@ARandomCustodian 2 жыл бұрын
@@rexlumontad5644 de-track it maybe
@McSkumm
@McSkumm 2 жыл бұрын
In the immortal words of Rogal Dorn... 'YEEEEEEEESSSSSSS'
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was said by Jotaro Kujo
@UshankasandAKs
@UshankasandAKs 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't begin to fathom how much joy I felt seeing those red streaks take down those clones But that baneblade showing up was euphoric
@markdorn8873
@markdorn8873 2 жыл бұрын
You point enough flashlights at the enemy and they will go down. The trick is getting enough flashlights for the job.
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it whilst it lasts, this wasn't even the 501st at it's full ability. If they had the same amount of armour, the clones would have obliterated the guard.
@thatoneperson6969
@thatoneperson6969 2 жыл бұрын
@@physical_insanity lmao, and then the space marine arrive with a dozens of Lunar Cruiser
@Joseph44138
@Joseph44138 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly from a lore perspective, Clone’s would put up a good fight but are limited, Guardsmen have probably more powerful weapons compared to any Republic weapons and the Guardsmen are basically endless, so in the end, the Imperium would probably win if it was an all out war against each other Hell i’m a Clone fan saying this lol
@coolchrisable
@coolchrisable 2 жыл бұрын
i would say ground forces the imperium is way more varied than the clones hell the clones had problems facing organic or native populations that where part of the CIS. Clones where designed to fight droids and use their tatics so fightting against an army that is way more varied and overall larger clones would be getting their ass kicked. Stormtroopers would fair much better. but in terms of weaponry i would say until you get to heavy weapons and vechicals the clone army is pretty comparable to a gaurdsman army.
@vothbetilia4862
@vothbetilia4862 2 жыл бұрын
To be clear a Las gun isn't a blaster, it can pretty much one shot a clone, this is also the same gun that can blow up limbs and concrete walls.
@phil3751
@phil3751 2 жыл бұрын
Star wars could just take a tip from 40k and conscript. They probably got more people than 40k considering the amount of peacetime they have had.
@phil3751
@phil3751 2 жыл бұрын
@@vothbetilia4862 Clone armor may stop that. Lasers only deal surface damage and clone armor is designed to diffuse heat
@Joseph44138
@Joseph44138 2 жыл бұрын
@@phil3751 I think they still conscripted, but non-clone Republic Troopers only defended worlds while Clones most of the time were sent to invade and defend planets that weren’t already under Republic control at the beginning of the war
@banebladecommanderchristia7951
@banebladecommanderchristia7951 2 жыл бұрын
IT IS THE BANEBLADE!
@mindofthecosmos9674
@mindofthecosmos9674 2 жыл бұрын
To VxV Tactics: I find this a bit inaccurate, if the clones knew the Guardsmen would have brought tanks they would have used rocket launchers to destroy the tanks, after detonating their trap. Plus, all clones are issued detonator grenades as seen from the clone wars series. The clones posses superior military tactics & tech compared to the Imperium's Guardsmen units considering that the Imperium uses ineffective soviet based military tactics, aside from their zealotry dedicated to worshipping an undead corpse.
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Republic has vastly superior small arms compared to the Imperium regiments. I think a lot of people forget that the average fire arm for Starwars is a literal plasma gun that does not explode in your hands.
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass 2 жыл бұрын
Today was a sad day for the Boys in Blue... Remember the 501st Legion. Vader's Fist!
@Mandalorian96
@Mandalorian96 2 жыл бұрын
The TX 130 is a very versatile Tank, I don't think its done enough Justice
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering though... What does the Clone army have that's at least equal to a Baneblade? Do they even have anything like it or we're those two tanks all they had?
@carlosdgutierrez6570
@carlosdgutierrez6570 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing, the closest vehicle in size would be the big wheeled armored apc that appear in the third movie in the fight on the wookies homeworld. But it lacks of the sheer firepower of the benablade.
@vothbetilia4862
@vothbetilia4862 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Republic don't invest too much on vehicles, also Carlos is Right the big wheeled armour APC at the battle of Kasshyyk, looked like it was mainly to transport troops. The Bandeblade is a super heavy that's so big it can run over a space Marine with its tank treads, with 11 barrel's of hell.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosdgutierrez6570 It does have a lot of missiles spamming at the enemy.
@carlosdgutierrez6570
@carlosdgutierrez6570 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 if you read the wiki about the juggernaut those missiles are mostly antipersonel, unsuitable against armor so… Even if they were replaced by at missiles, they are too small to punch through the benablade armor. But the all the kinds of cannons of all the variants of benablade would gut that apc in one shot.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosdgutierrez6570 I can imagine Space Marines getting knocked down by the Juggernaut's missile spam only to get up on their feet afterwards.
@rustkarl
@rustkarl 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the Hammer of the Emperor… you make sure that you gut them quickly, else they will make you bleed. For each one who falls, ten more will take their place.
@NPCUniverse
@NPCUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
Hey this was a great cinematic battle, I'm happy that I found your channel. Also this was the best ad implementation I've seen in a cinematic battle channel it was just really funny and smart 😀Keep up the great work! ✌
@Noah-zz8uw
@Noah-zz8uw 2 жыл бұрын
Eyy it's NPC Universe!
@reymarkdimaano1299
@reymarkdimaano1299 2 жыл бұрын
Clone trooper: For the republic! but wait we don't have tanks. Imperium: For the empire. Clone trooper: For the republic. Imperium: For the empire. Clone trooper: For the republic.
@lightnihilus
@lightnihilus 2 жыл бұрын
Am doing my own very creative book called Space Wars of the Universes. It's similar to Starwars Legends, Metroid prime , Halo 2, World of the Worlds, The Flash, Star Trek , and alittle of Warhammer 40k in it. Though this Space Wars of the Universes is also very unqiue and very well creative. You can call it the Ultra Universes of the Infinate Cycle. Some Information about it It's main view is Diplomacy, and Democracy. It's well balanced of the Light Side and the Dark side. Name a few things the SWUU has in it It's going to have Hover Titans, Carrier Titans, Destoyer Titans, Support Titans, Frigate Titans, Dreadnaught Titans, and Superweapon Titans. Theirs also many categories of Infantry, vehicles of Under ground , Ground, Air, and Space. Ships, Starships, Space ships Theirs also Anti Rings, Rings, Life Charity, Death Charity, Low Charity, The Life Star , and other things Theirs also the Little Insect/bug destoyers that can destroy Light, Medium and heavy things like Infantry, Shields, Vehicles, Fighters, Helicopters, Jets, Interceptors, InterceptorJets, ships, Star ships, Space ships, Titans, Moons, Planets, Stars, Solar systems, Clusters, Nebulas, Worm Holes, Black Holes, Galaxies, and Dark This Space Wars of the Ultra Universes also called- ( SWUU ) also going to have all the Matter Categories , and all the Anti Matter Catagories. Theirs the infinate Light Outer Space where its Hot instead of Cold. Light Outer Space is White instead of Black. Theirs White Holes, Light Anti Energy, Light Anti Matter, Anti Matter, Hole worms, Anti Clusters, Anti Nebulas, Anti Stars - are Cold instead of Hot, Theirs Anti Gravity, Anti Planets, Anti Moons, Anti Asteroids, Anti Comets, Anti Atoms, Anti Particles, Anti Quarks, Anti Organisms, Anti Elements, and many other things. Am also going to be upgrading the Starwars Legends , Metroid Prime and 2, and Halo 2 Universes to make it where their even more powerful.
@VindensSaga
@VindensSaga 2 жыл бұрын
writing books and novels is fun. :) good luck mate!
@lightnihilus
@lightnihilus 2 жыл бұрын
@@VindensSaga Yes it is indeed. And thank you!
@Everthus4
@Everthus4 2 жыл бұрын
Guardsman: "how many troops you have?" "dunno, 3 millions i think" - -"no seriously" - "as i said" -"lol, there are literally bllions of guardsmans, good luck"
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 2 жыл бұрын
3 billion is the official number I think which honestly is kind of low
@chh2010
@chh2010 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there were at least a billion Clone trooper no matter what Lucas says also you do have to take in into account clone weren't the only republic fighting force during the war,they were more of the cutting edge latest toys guys, the republic also has auxiliary forces, judiciary forces, volunteer forces,allied expeditionary forces, mercenaries,allied rebels,PDFs and SDFs
@jjhester6586
@jjhester6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@chh2010 The Republic would still be outnumbered, since the Astra Militarum has 100s of billions of guardsmen alone. They also have PDF troops, which would bolster the Imperial force even more.
@chh2010
@chh2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjhester6586 I am not saying the republic would win I was just giving a more accurate number,ik how ridiculous 40k is
@jjhester6586
@jjhester6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@chh2010 Giving the Republic a more accurate number? Weren't the Clone forces in total numbering only the few millions? The hell you get a billion from?
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this will tide me over for when AFanWithTooMuchTime finally finishes his season 1 of Star Wars vs 40K fan fic.
@nightlord102
@nightlord102 2 жыл бұрын
Clone:Were Taking Too Much Fire !!!! Guardsman:Heh They Call Us Wall Of Guns For A Reason.
@S3verusMyG
@S3verusMyG 2 жыл бұрын
Clone Troopers: Brother I have been shot, get me away! Imperial Guardsmen: Brother I have been shot, get me a gun!
@A1509MDIX
@A1509MDIX 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Even the ad was well done. I'm glad to see the Republic actually had a pretty good advantage at the beginning, but unfortunately for them, the Imperium broke through the ambush.. It would be nice to see the Republic actually win a battle for once, as they seem to be losing this war on all fronts and can't possibly keep up with the losses at this rate.
@tecnoghost6650
@tecnoghost6650 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, well, the problem for the republic is that they have the script against them, or you don't realize that they behave stupidly and warhammer always receives many advantages (let's not forget that star wars does not have air support), apart from stats like that do not quite fit, the show is interesting but the narrative is mediocre, and subjectively they are not good animations at least for me, the guy does not bother to try to make the republic or the confederation look like threats, especially having Take into account that the invaders are those of warhammer, star wars already lost, but only because the story is predictable since it does not have any effort, at least we must admit that most of the time it puts on a good show
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 2 жыл бұрын
>Republic >Good advantage >Literally next to no armour Yeah, it's no wonder they lost going up against an entire armour column with only infantry. With the same number of machines, the 501st would have won.
@ApocGuy
@ApocGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@physical_insanity maybe in this scenario, but as whole? one freakin psycher or demonhost is enough to take down death star. and let's not forget on titans and space marines, inquisition and rest of astra militarum. or we an simply chime in 'nids or orks. game over for imperial army.
@tecnoghost6650
@tecnoghost6650 2 жыл бұрын
@@ApocGuy Well I'm not sure what they are talking about, but here we are talking about the republic, not the galactic empire, here it does not paint the death star, and although it did paint, everyone knows that it is simply a space station with a very questionable efficiency whose only Remarkable feature is the lightning capable of destroying anything, it is a bit stupid to want to compare something so little relevant (and that again does not come at all) but since we are, in terms of fleet the Warhammer empire is only comparable or superior to The republic, both the CIS and the empire are vastly superior in fleet, and because in terms of land the warhammer advantage is not only small but very focused on certain aspects, the space marines are good but not immortal, the same for the Titans, who have the problem of being slow and easy targets for the most part, although it is probably the only reasonable thing on the list, the astra militarum are essentially militias and individual armies. ideals of extreme variability in terms of their capabilities, far below the standardized forces that usually make up the infantry of star wars (remember that the Roman army was very effective for this) and no, cadia is not an excuse, a planet does not sustain a galaxy (if the republic had lost to the CIS) the inquisition is an entity in charge of purging, it has no military relevance, and for mere productivity, because star wars is also much superior in these terms, the same for the technological development capacity ( It is more if I remember correctly in warhammer this or it is almost null or they are in regression), finally if we go crazy the GE already proved that it is capable of using and mixing the capacities of the republic and the CIS, with a production capacity Very high, great resources, could create planets and cloning colonies and deploy all kinds of droids, some models being extremely capable and being able to undergo improvements, but and their standard use force, no I know, I personally see a bit screwed up wanting to put the empire where they did not call it
@viperblitz11
@viperblitz11 2 жыл бұрын
@@ApocGuy Titans, Knights and Space Marines are a very small part of the Imperium's actual armed forces, and they're much more divided than the parts of the GAR. Not to mention the Imperium's sluggish administration is only barely capable of keeping the status quo. What happens when the Munitorum loses a few million rations in the mail while the army is on campaign? What happens when the politics of replenishing ships and hardware slow down Imperial officers so much that the Republic can outproduce them? Any 40k speculation that ignores all of the Imperium's exploitable cracks isn't worth taking seriously. If it was really as unbeatable as people in comments sections argue, their enemies wouldn't still be alive after 10,000 years.
@Drakenfoul
@Drakenfoul 2 жыл бұрын
*Ofcourse the Guard won, Cadia broke before the Guard did, not even the 501 can stand agaisnt the Imperium!!*
@kevlonk
@kevlonk 2 жыл бұрын
Wow even when ambushing, the Clones get massacred. I'm a 40k fan but I'm hoping Star Wars wins one at some point.
@macromicro1715
@macromicro1715 2 жыл бұрын
It comes down to purpose, and also equipment. Mass engagement often favor the guard rather substantially, as they were designed for endless meat grinders, unlike clones. Smaller engagements between five to ten man fire teams favors the clones, at least against most guards. Tanith being one particularly acute exception.
@vothbetilia4862
@vothbetilia4862 2 жыл бұрын
@@macromicro1715 Ok but these are Cadians though, they're shock troopers of the Imperium, the same guardsmens who train when their first born and immediately shoot their guns at age 10 or higher. the problem is the clones fought always droids and not organic army's, that being said their blue bolts are meant to go against droids and pretty emp them and not human contact.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 2 жыл бұрын
@@vothbetilia4862 Yet the Clones were able to kill Jedi and wipe out other rebel cells popping up during Order 66 and the rise of the Galactic Empire respectively.
@macromicro1715
@macromicro1715 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to see how the clones would do with the right weapons for this sort of job, armor, and frankly combat doctrine. Clone mentality matches a mixture of Krieger and Cadian philosophy of war, so it be interesting to see how they'd look when they began adapting to this kind of warfare. First step, automatic weapons, rocket launchers, and paint the armor in camouflage.
@JakeBaldwin1
@JakeBaldwin1 2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of weirded out by the lack of automatic weapons on the clone ambush. Like their submachine guns and regular rifles. I think that the slow firing snipers guns they were using were too close to be effective.
@Alarak_
@Alarak_ 2 жыл бұрын
The return of the king ! Huh, I mean the Emperor !
@LiliaArmoury
@LiliaArmoury 2 жыл бұрын
um just a thing VxV Tactics: blaster rifles especially the dc 15a long rifles the clones have have something like an effective range of 10km so if a clone can see a guardsmen they can hit the guardsmen
@carlosdgutierrez6570
@carlosdgutierrez6570 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto for the lasgun, depending on the pattern of course.
@Denterify2
@Denterify2 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosdgutierrez6570 In the end the Lasgun is a Laserpointer that will make you pop like a microwaved grape XD
@ARandomCustodian
@ARandomCustodian 2 жыл бұрын
10KM range only kicks in on full power + tripod
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@Denterify2 Sort of. The lasgun loses stopping power the further the target is. Longlas helps by just using more of the battery charge to shoot more energy at once. You'll probably die of the radiation burns and/or cancer the lasgun will give you so you may as well just charge your target and set that sucker to full auto, if the manufacturer made one that can. Dang bolt action lasguns!
@Denterify2
@Denterify2 2 жыл бұрын
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN Considering that most firefights happen nowhere near at the max range the powerloss normaly doesn´t realy plays a role afaik, heck the example set by the blaster above is also very far fatched from battle field "reality". Oh yes the praetorians XD
@ghandigreen
@ghandigreen 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, clones get a few vehicles and mostly troops while the guardsmen get a baneblade and leman russ tanks and basilisks and you really had to do the clones dirty by rushing them out like that to get them slaughtered? Like really come on. It's not a battle it's a slaughter every time. Great video but man it's so one sided every time.
@rabbiama2940
@rabbiama2940 2 жыл бұрын
Since this is a Starwars vs Warhammer40k I wouldn't mind any faction to appear Like say, Druids or the latest Seth Troopers Or in Warhammer40k very own Necrons or Orks Would love to how CloneTroopers fair against Orkboys
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
Chaos corruption is nice. Possessed Clones and Traitor Jedi Sorcerers would be deadly
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@rabbiama2940 We saw how Ork Boyz managed to overwhelm Clone Trooper defenses previously
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiandauz3742 and amazing
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
@@rabbiama2940 Orks and Tyranids curbstomp Clones and Droids without using massive numbers or their heavy units or vehicles
@randomrevanite8810
@randomrevanite8810 2 жыл бұрын
Imperial Guardsman *uses dead squadmate as cover* man it really was nice of the Republic to provide us with cover
@phantomwraith1984
@phantomwraith1984 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, where's that guy who types out a wall of text of lore?
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN
@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN 2 жыл бұрын
Wazzaaaaaap?!
@willofone2120
@willofone2120 2 жыл бұрын
Who sets up a roadblock and then throws endless waves of infantry at it to the front? They were defending a position, why did they need to move up?! I do like seeing combat between these two different factions, but I'd like to see some reasonable tactics in play. With tactics like this, it does not matter how well equipped either side is because it will just be a meat grinder
@StyxRiverGynoid
@StyxRiverGynoid 2 жыл бұрын
First 3 minutes are just a normal monday for the Guard :)
@mirakil7636
@mirakil7636 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, about time we got another SW vs 40K vid. Very nice.
@jare3459
@jare3459 2 жыл бұрын
Ya nothing in star wars can down a baneblade outside a orbital strike
@CoolMyron
@CoolMyron 2 жыл бұрын
Many vehicles in star wars have warship grade weapons on them. None of which are in this mod. The ones that are do not work in the mod. Baneblades are not on that op.
@roulo5516
@roulo5516 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I love Star Wars so much, the moment I saw this, I immediately switch side to the Imperium of Man. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the emperor is on life support and hes not coming off it anytime soon. For the republic
@roulo5516
@roulo5516 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wongseifu548 Heretic. The Emperor of Mankind is healing himself. Be it if we must wait another 10,000 years, the Emperor shall return the Imperium of Man to it's glory days. For the Imperium of Man, for the Emperor!!
@Wongseifu548
@Wongseifu548 2 жыл бұрын
@@roulo5516 lol thats if gene stealers don't destroy terra or abidon does not destroy it first
@physical_insanity
@physical_insanity 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna just say this, it was an unfair matchup from the beginning. The video creator is biased as peck. The clones had no armour, no heavy weapons and had possibly the worst positions too, despite having the high ground. Given the correct equipment, vehicles and maybe even some artillery, I think it would be have been decisive victory for the 501st. Obviously the Guard was going to win when the 501st only has infantry, two light tanks and scarce few anti-tank weapons with a setup that practically encourages stupid tactics. A grander scale conflict would also be decisive and unclear as to who would come out on top, but given that Star Wars actually has better, more noticeably advanced and refined technology, with better FTL and strategy, I'd be inclined to say Star Wars has a slight upper hand.
@roulo5516
@roulo5516 2 жыл бұрын
@@physical_insanity Yes, that certainly would. But you forgot that the Imperium of Man have near unlimited amount of resources and manpower, this is one of the things that the video try to imply, that the Imperium of Man is larger than the GAR. Regardless of how many times the GAR can repel them, in terms of attrition, I think it's safe to say that the Guardsmen outnumbers the Clones. If the Guardsmen are not enough, the Imperium can always count on the Astartes. If that's not enough, EXTERMINATUS.
@dasberk4971
@dasberk4971 2 жыл бұрын
The Emperor protects
@ethansears2490
@ethansears2490 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort you put into making the ad have something to do with the lore.
@benboyer2283
@benboyer2283 2 жыл бұрын
That convoy at the start makes me very, very happy. Good job getting that to work.
@linkfoxhay3361
@linkfoxhay3361 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, but honestly it feels one sided against the clones almost every time Nobody dies more heroically than a clone, but still it feels hard to watch sometimes when the outcome is predetermined for every battle posted Love the videos and I hope they keep coming, these are just my own thoughts on it, it would be nice to see clones acting like clones and not storm troopers
@gman-vv5ib
@gman-vv5ib 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone agrees. I’m saying it’s not very balanced in the battles. Now I know not every battle is a even fight but the clones literally just have regular blasters and 2 tanks (which aren’t very effective) there are no mortars or any kind of support weapons for the clones not to mention air support though Das hard to script so I’ll forgive that, air support aside the clones had no turrets or even decent anti tank weaponry like a RPG. Meanwhile the imperium has like 6 IFV and at the end got a super terminator like tank. And the whole while the clones couldn’t even destroy the IFVs so they just camped all the advancing clones with their auto turrets with no means to destroy them by the clones. Not even any light artillery for the clones. Seems very one sided
@linkfoxhay3361
@linkfoxhay3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@gman-vv5ib right? Like for example, they just ran right into multi-laz fire, the ambush was done by stormtrooper recruits- like why didn’t the AT troops shoot the tanks and other vehicles to disable them? Plus why did they even run OUT OF THEIR BASE right into the baneblade? Like I don’t mind the clones losing, but at least show their superior training so it’s a satisfying defeat yknow? Edit: Apparently there wasn’t even AT troopers, whoops
@HivefleetMagoladon
@HivefleetMagoladon 2 жыл бұрын
@@linkfoxhay3361 Yeah, I feel like the creator does have a bias here. I'd much rather see both factions demonstrate their strengths rather than just "ain't the Guard so awesome?"
@linkfoxhay3361
@linkfoxhay3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@HivefleetMagoladon honestly, I do have to agree with you. Day by day the Cadians are turning into the guardsmen version of the ultramarines
@duvetofreason16
@duvetofreason16 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the clones have no anti armour weapons and just human wave the guardsmen rather than using their superior weapons to blat them from range. And then the imperium gets a super heavy tank....
@treykenley3499
@treykenley3499 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching the video seeing this in action. But I am sorely disappointed that you did not give any 'real' heavy armor to the 501st for an ambush using ATTEs or cannons. Which in lore as well as the series they use extensively for these such things. I mean you gave the guard a lot of them as well as a super tank at the very end. While the clones simply had at best could be TX-130s, if what I saw was correct, which classify as a medium tank at best depending on POV. Curious as to what the next one is going to be though. What do you all think?
@nicholasshaw6942
@nicholasshaw6942 2 жыл бұрын
Praise to the Omnissiah! I will beseech the machine spirit.
@dem9763
@dem9763 2 жыл бұрын
This has probably already been said but... this is the most intense laser tag game I've ever seen
@maliquevoid9037
@maliquevoid9037 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I like the action and the videos, if I sound like I’m nitpicking it’s because I’m both a Star Wars and warhammer fan, and I’m sure the warhammer mod allows warhammer units to do more damage. 1 why where the clones not in cover. 2 where were the L.A.A.Ts, Y wings, And AT-TEs. 3 why where the clones charging at the guardsmen toward the end. 4 and why did the clones not bring more rocket launchers. I know warhammer is beatable you just have to use the tactics of the faction you put them up against, if ever video end with a tactical victory for warhammer what’s the point of watching till the end if we already know the outcome.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
Clones should have a few rocket launchers Imperial Guard didn't have any air support Clones aren't smart
@spacewolfblackmane19
@spacewolfblackmane19 2 жыл бұрын
That was great, i like the incorporation of the first and 3rd person view as well. You've improve in these videos quite a lot. I hope that there is a way moders can add melee animations or custom troops cuss i would love to see some dark troopers and legends era stuff as well. either way love the work and thank you for the videos man
@kirikamikadzuto2121
@kirikamikadzuto2121 2 жыл бұрын
First person view is not a mod, it is a game feature of the new version of the "call to arms" engine
@spacewolfblackmane19
@spacewolfblackmane19 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirikamikadzuto2121 I didn't say that was a mod
@andreymonolith4688
@andreymonolith4688 2 жыл бұрын
7:13 When you need to regroup but commissar stay behind you
@i-kneel-for-no-man3814
@i-kneel-for-no-man3814 2 жыл бұрын
“Push back these scum and their republic! For the emperor!”
@donistark
@donistark 2 жыл бұрын
It should be tallarn desert raiders vs clone trooper
@trevordrakenor2063
@trevordrakenor2063 2 жыл бұрын
One cannot simply just inflict casualty on imperial guards and think victory is assured. Unless the Clones can do more than just, killing soldiers and tank, it will always end in Imperial victory.
@gp-1542
@gp-1542 2 жыл бұрын
I have a worrying dread that chaos is lurking in the distance waiting to tear the galaxy a new one
@khukri_wielderxxx1962
@khukri_wielderxxx1962 2 жыл бұрын
The emperor's blessing befalls those who die in glorious combat!
@9999duc
@9999duc 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting the remaining vehicles to hold the line until the heavy reinforcement arrive but having a new group of guardmen came and they were enough to turn the tide really made the countdown and the arrival kind of underwhelming.
@markdorn8873
@markdorn8873 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to watch the Basilisks use heavy bolters only. The Earthshaker cannons could have tipped things in favor of the Imperium very quickly... or, that may have been the point.
@hallowedbeyourdays
@hallowedbeyourdays 2 жыл бұрын
Patrol groups are never alone, there would be brothers somewhere close by enough in range.
@shikniwho7215
@shikniwho7215 2 жыл бұрын
the thing can't even push forward because of all the wreckage, it kinda sad to look at.
@hallowedbeyourdays
@hallowedbeyourdays 2 жыл бұрын
@@shikniwho7215 I mean, not combat-effectively, for sure, but otherwise you're joking. Its engine propels its mass - smaller shit will not be a problem. Worst comes to worst, they can just huck cables onto the shit and haul them out of the way. But that does take time...
@shikniwho7215
@shikniwho7215 2 жыл бұрын
@@hallowedbeyourdays or it can just blast the wreck away to open the path but ya, it should be able to just drive right through it and just ram them away.
@robertjdolman
@robertjdolman 2 жыл бұрын
"Glory to the first man to die" - missing cominsar
@TruePacifist201
@TruePacifist201 Жыл бұрын
I was laughing my arse off at the way you framed the sponsorship segment. Very nice.
@lecorbeaucassecouilles7365
@lecorbeaucassecouilles7365 2 жыл бұрын
I have yet to find a battle where clones use their supposedly extremely advanced military training to engage their ennemy with maximal efficiency and minimal casualties. If you guys were just going to charge in the open against armored units it wasn't worth spending so much republic credits. Cheap droids would have done the job.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 жыл бұрын
What advanced training? The Movies portray them as Canon fodder
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc 2 жыл бұрын
3:24 Never seen The IG with Autoguns before, guess someone figured out Clone armor won't stop rifle bullets and did something smart for once. On the other hand even Guardsmen Flak Armor is resistant to standard issue rounds, though Armor Piercing Rounds (confusingly termed "Manstoppers") will punch right through that plate.
@Memelord1117
@Memelord1117 2 жыл бұрын
so rockets?
@VojislavMoranic
@VojislavMoranic 2 жыл бұрын
That all varies wildly from planet to planet. Some Guard units are very heavily armored. Some wear rags. The only "Standard" thing is a Lasgun and thats just because the Munitorum will screech.
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 2 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness
@taoperezjackson5446
@taoperezjackson5446 2 жыл бұрын
Love these cinematics bro, thanks and keep up the good work
@33482
@33482 2 жыл бұрын
The clones were lucky it was just the imperial guard. If the death korps of krieg were against them, their death would have been way more painful.
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 2 жыл бұрын
Chimera side gunners got an excellent firing range experience But why did basilisks didn't fire a single shot? They had the ability to do so, lack of hydras is also weird
@Denterify2
@Denterify2 2 жыл бұрын
I think they did once during the 2nd clone wave around 03:05
@multiversepatriot3148
@multiversepatriot3148 2 жыл бұрын
They're too close. You fire an Earthshaker round at that range, you and everyone around is paste. After that, I think the crews were dead or disembarked
@ltramon7463
@ltramon7463 2 жыл бұрын
Well, in CtA and MOWAS 2, artillery vehicles are...let's say finicky about when and where they can fire if left up to the AI.
@bluenight104
@bluenight104 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on that Star Wars victory. But it’s still a great video as always man, 10/10. 1 problem I have noticed though is it seems blasters have far less range than those lasguns. Towards the end the IG basically shot with impunity at the in cover clones.
@MandoDaras
@MandoDaras 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 2 жыл бұрын
The only way for them to win is to basically fight dirty and attack Imperial logistics, the problem with this though is that the Imperials have a literal 10,000 years worth of experince fighting any manner of enemies, but the SW factions can do significant enough damage to hopefully win a battle or at least slow the Imperials down. (any direct combat any where with the Imperium is practically suicide for them even if they can quickly replace losses with Clones or Droids)
@Yorgar
@Yorgar 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne appreciates the sacrifice and requires more.
@jager2749
@jager2749 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@alexfelk741
@alexfelk741 2 жыл бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if you replace the Clone Trooper ambushers with ICOG child soldiers from Xeelee Sequence?
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 2 жыл бұрын
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