"Cuz you got the dog in you?" was a BAR & no one saluted Eddin for it. Tough crowd.

MJ has sold almost half a billion PHYSICAL albums worldwide. Beyonce not even close even with streaming. MJ's career was a juggernaut.

“That his hat falls off” - Eden (in regards to what Neyo’s wife is praying for after the break up) 🤣🤣🤣

TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Jcole has a song called Mr Nice watch but doesn’t even wear watches anymore. Rory says it's the worst song ever 1:03 - Rory asks Mal: How long (without bad circumstances) will you allow your sister and nephew to stay at your house? Rory gives his point of view on the question afterwards 3:12 - ‘The most hated man on the internet’ documentary discussion (A man created a website dedicated to hosting revenge nudes) 6:53 - The internet has increased the amount of attention lame people get (Referencing the main character of ‘The most hated man on the internet’ and people like him) 9:44 - How far the internet has come since the time period in ‘The most hated man on the internet’ documentary 10:42 - Starchasers (People who dedicate their lives to getting into VIP/around celebrities), retiring the word ‘groupie’ 12:26 - Rory realizes might have been a starchaser in his early days, being 18 and wondering why clubs are 18+, and then turning 21 and being happy that 18 year olds can’t get in 13:20 - New music: Official discussion of Beyonce’s ‘RENAISSANCE’. Rory and Mal both agree that its high up in Beyonce's discography 15:20 - Demaris asks Mal if he’s learned how to Vogue as yet. Rory says he has the hips for it 16:05 - Demaris asks Rory where he ranks RENAISSANCE on Beyonce's discography, Mal gives his take afterwards 17:31 - The team discusses Beyonce’s projected sales 18:26 - Are there any standout singles on RENAISSANCE? Does there need to be standout singles, or is Beyonce an album artist? 19:19 - Demaris says Thick is her favorite song because she feels like it was talking about her. Edin chimes in and says Beyonce was actually talking about Mal too 24:53 - RENAISSANCE is the first installation of 3 parts of Beyonce's album (Talks about how the 2nd album is rumored to be R&B, and the 3rd is rumored to be country) 25:42 - Is Beyonce an R&B artist? 27:11 - Betterhelp ad. New Rory N Mal listeners get 10% off their first month. (Don’t believe youtube allows you to put links in the comments, so listen to the ad for it) 28:10 - Real good podcast ad 29:01 - What is the exact definition of an album artist? 30:26 - Mal asks Rory what's his greatest album of all time, back to album artist discussion, and Beyonce 34:38 - Are there any artists that have never utilized a single? Brings Jcole into this discussion, and Rory says Mr Nicewatch is one of the worst songs ever, although it was a shift 37:18 - Jcole , Kendrick, etc, showed that the traditional way of putting out music is not how you build a fanbase in the modern day. Streaming caused us to regress back into that by incentivizing single chasing 39:30 - Who’s the greatest entertainer of all time? Beyonce VS Michael Jackson 43:00 - Do we know how Michael would have been able to deal with social media in the same way that Beyonce has? 44:44 - Would Beyonce be as big as she is now without the internet? 45:29 - If Janet Jackson came out today, she would be bigger than she is now 48:15 - Who had the better half of their career: Michael Jackson VS Beyonce 51:27 - Rory says that Michael Jackson’s ‘Bad’ is the bad album (Nothing can beat it) , but says he can make a case that 4, Lemonade, or Homecoming could beat Michael Jackson’s ‘Bad’ 52:11 - Before the podcast started, Mal said that Beyonce would win the battle, Mal clarifies. Demaris calls Mal out and asks him to name the Michael Jackson album he called trash 54:06 - Rory says that Beyonce's discography is getting better with her age, whereas the same can’t be said for a lot of these other artists 55:39 - Who's the better actor? Michael Jackson or Beyonce? Talks about musicians in general going into acting 56:55 - Fivio Foregin VS Mase (Fivio feels like Mase took advantage of him, Fivio says Mase signed him for $5000) 1:02:30 - Will Smith's apology to Chris Rock 1:10:07 - The team gives their points of view on the apology 1:11:40 - Drake cancels Young Money reunion show due to testing positive for the bug. The team gets into their conspiracy bag as to why the show was really canceled 1:17:48 - Metaportal Ad 1:18:48 - Ne-Yo allegedly getting caught cheating by his wife (allegedly) 1:25 :10 - Mal says the situation is hard because he trusted Ne-Yo with the Fedora. Demaris says she doesn’t trust anyone with a Fedora 1:25:28 - Demaris brings up that they’ve been on Ne-Yo before, because in the past, he’s asked that his ex-wife get their tubes tied, burned permanently , and then went and remarried to someone else 1:26:38 - Rest In Peace to Bill Russel 1:28:25 - Upcoming tour information/Podcast wrap-up

“I like thique cause it felt like she was taking bout me” “And mal”. Edin really the silent killer on the pod 😂im crying tears

“Now she’s miss independent” - Eden 🤣

The Michael Jackson - Beyonce "conversation" is disrespectful. NOBODY WILL BE AS BIG OF A ARTIST AND ICON AS MJ.

I wish people would stop comparing people to MJ Jordan or Jackson. It’s stupid it’s not close

Fivio Foreign is currently 32 YEARS OF AGE. He signed a deal with Columbia in 2019. That would mean he was 28 or 29. Stop calling that Grown Man a KID.

Saying Beyonce isn’t a R&B singer is like saying Drake isn’t a rapper. Beyoncé was introduced to us as a part of a female r&b group and every album she has put out has been majority r&b. Like Drake she experiments with other sounds and isn’t solely making one specific genre, but it would be wrong to not acknowledge Drake as a rapper just because he made mainstream songs that aren’t rap.

Mal: I don’t really listen to any Beyonce albums Also Mal: Beyoncé is the greatest artist of our generation

When it comes to the MJ debate, he was great globally. Not just in America, not just during his time, not just in a single culture etc. I think it’s harder to find someone who hasn’t heard a MJ song vs someone who has heard a song from any other artist. If that makes sense.

“Cause you got the dog in you” was hard 😤

I’m gone need a part 2 conspiracy theory episode to make up for this one.

You should absolutely go to their show. They are even BETTER live! Saw them twice. In LA & at Roots. Amazing guys and so gracious to their fans.

Imagine Mike going Live from Never Never Land Ranch! "was up everybody its MJ, say hi Bubblezz" r u serious .. IG would crash

Not gonna lie. This was a hard listen. I don't listen to the guys for a Beyonce deep dive.

Is interestingly annoying how they can take the most minuscule part of a topic like "what is an album" and analyze TF out of it... thank goodness for fast forwarding

Trying to put Beyoncé in the same convo as MJ…”that’s crazy” the world was MJs fan base compared to Beyoncé’s ‘Beehive’…MJ brought pandemonium world wide just stop it.

Yo, Edin saying “post-humorous” is another level of funny 🤣🤣

I really don’t fw where Demaris be trying to take the pod. I blame Rory overall

Rory memory is all over the place. Kendrick released the heart part 5 to help promote the album

40+ Min on Beyonce is nuts kids... Hadda tune out

Rory: ‘Kendrick didn’t put out anything before his album” Kendrick: *put out the Heart Part 5 that had all the pods talking pre album*

Edin gotta go. "COS YOU GOT THE DOG IN YOU" is wild

Those "Webster Hall - Thursdays - ladies free nights" were legendary.

Honestly the fact that there is even a “debate” between Michael and Beyoncé is an artificial construction without a basis in reality. To make it more clear - Beyoncé doesn’t even come close.

Edin said post humorous 🤣🤣🤣 Edin, it’s posthumous

Eden with the "Hope his hat falls off adlib" about Neyo almost made me crash

Treadmill vibes before work love you guys

“Cuz you got the dog in you” lmaoooooooooo

Why are people so determined to make Beyonce bigger than Michael. No one is bigger than Michael. How could you ever be bigger than the person that has shaped the music that you make?

Why does everyone sleep on B-Day, like it’s not one of Beyoncés best projects!!

“Post-Humorous” instead of “posthumous” from Eddin was fucking great 😂😂😂 man is innocent

Demaris is starting to talk too much. Nevertheless good show.

Demaris been sounding a bit deflated lately, like she need some time off. Listening back to past episode’s her energy was mad high. Now she sounds exhausted. They went to Mexico without her and she ain’t been the same since 😂

This is a master class in who's butt to kiss in the industry...Be clear

In 2006 and 2007 I was definitely sending pics with the sidekick

Rory gotta stop disrespecting Mike like he wasn’t still relevant during the internet years

Mal's reply to if he has vogue'd before was hilarious. "Nah, I read vogue magazine." Lollll :p

Rory is tripping, "Dangerous" is my favorite MJ album. Mal is tripping, "Invincible" is a great album, and they did not mention MJ's "History" album.

I feel like y'all had something special with the Skits. Could turned it into a mini series.

Aye Rory no disrespect to Beyonce but Michaels discography smokes hers by far! 🎶🐐🎶🐐💯💯

"Did you believe him as a werewolf?' 🤣 That dude Rory is a wild boy. Shout out to Mal for not laughing. 🤣

They geekin while Demaris trying to explain the Neyo story. I would’ve been stopped talking lol

The best golden/platinum podcast quote evet, " I'm just gonna ignore THAT and, ugh,pretend like its just you(mal) and I here" 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

MJ would never put out an album that intentionally throws out as many Twitter buzzwords as possible for clout

I am a Beyonce fan, but MJ is MJ. I think Michael's music was loved by a wider audience and that is the major difference. I think Beyonce is Michael's best student. She is a legend and an icon. When she performs people want to watch even if they don't know or like the song, that's how magnetic she is. That being said, this album is amazing. I can't stop listening to it, it makes me move... all kinds of dancing, free flow, boots popping, dance hall, ballroom, etc...I think both icons should be celebrated.

Aight wrap this Beyoncé conversation up Lort yal getting on my nerves

“Do whatever the fuck you do when I’m not around” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Dang this was the first educated music convo they’ve had in a looooong time. Bring back the music convos!

Enjoying the pod and yall chemistry more and more!

Demaris: *breathes People in the comments: “Demaris is so annoying get her off the pod!”

Yo saying Ne-yos ex is hoping his hat falls off definitely went overlooked lmao. Shouts to Eddin

Am I the only one that doesn’t get Beyoncé hype. Like her music is good but I wouldn’t compare her to MJ

Mal just be existing in this pod lmao

Mal was just talking on that Beyonce review🤣

THANK YOU RORY FOR CALLING OUT JAY FOR MR NICE WATCH. BEING REAL

“Now she’s Miss Independent is the highlight of this episode..” 😂

Smoke my weed. Listening to this wild shit and getting my house clean is the fuckin vibe. Love peace and respect to all shout out to my gamer ASHYKNUCKL3S

i definitely got meet and greet tickets! i just want a picture

I enjoy less Demaris more Rory, Mal

Bday is her best album hands down… then dangerously in love

demaris sound like Benny the Butcher’s lil sister

the way I just APPLAUDED. rory had the correct order of B albums

Eddin hoping neyo hat falls off funny af

19:30 ; what you say eddin ? O ok” E bout to get that chin checked 🙄😂😅🤣

Let’s understand one thing. If Beyoncé Brest popped out during the Super Bowl that would be the most talked about moment in the history of time. The internet would instantly and literally break

the fact that I waited 10 mins into the Beyonce vs mj section to see if they would mention the history album & they didn't .. so I gotta end this pod early ill be back sat

Pods warsssssssss 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥I see u Rory with the shots at ice @ 9:18 😂😂😂😂😂

Not doing meet and greets because of Monkeypox is hilarious.

Her takes are not good yo. Ya should consider cutting her mic

If Michael Jackson was still Alive & he went Live one Instagram it would say THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING 👀 😳

If people saw MJ on social media as much as they see Beyonce the impact of seeing him in person would be lessened.

What happened to the spot they were using on the first few episodes? Now they holding microphones

Beyoncé has been an album artist since her first album. Since Destiny's Child. She's never not been an album artist. What kind of question was that? Even with heavy singles and promo, etc. She's ALWAYS been an album artist.

Jay-Z or Beyoncé ain’t nothing compared to the Jackson’s.💯

Rory, we're gonna have to run that fade next time you start our pod like that. That Mr nice watch bit was fucking NUTS.

For the record, Janet wouldn't have sold/streamed as much today as she did, pre-internet, in her era. She sold 14 million physical copies and followed up with 7, if I'm not mistaken.

I don’t know what Rory had in his cup but it was steaming the entire video bro sipping on hot rocks 🪨 💀

I can’t tell if it’s hot or cold where these guys are. Lol

Edin’s snaps 😂😂

Mal looked like he wanted to smack Rory round the mouth when he brought up Janet's name hehe

Good discussion about albums

Early Pod Gang!

Not trusted the fedoras Lmaoo

What about HIStory (it had a disc with new material) and Blood on the Dancefloor (never heard it)?

demaris want beyonce to win against mike so bad bro, like its cool beyonce is a top 5 oat, why she need her to beat MIKE??

Rory shirt hard asf

their point about MJ “surviving” in social media era doesnt really touch on the point that social media genuinely does promo for these artists naturally. fan accounts, “hives,” accounts that literally just post a random paparazzi picture of beyonce and picks up 80k likes on twitter simply because its beyonce. its definitely an advantage

Haven't been following the pod - did they move to LA?

I love you Mal forever. I want to read Vogue with you.

I wish I could see y’all in Chicago 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

Mal had the perfect breakdown of an album artist

Slapping somebody in private and apologies to his momma on i.g is wild to me

Mal is trying not to lose it with that dumb MJ convo

Demaris gave the perfect answer to what an album artist is and they ignored her 🤦🏾‍♂️

In order to debate the levels and impact of these different artist you had to have been of age. You have to be in love with pop culture and music during the raise and summit of both Mike and Beyonce. I was there with the whole family young and old for the BAD video premiere and I was there for Lemonade and know the whole history from Destinys child being in the Izzo Video. to the elevator video with Solange. Beyonce is not where Mike was and its not even possible in her time to get on that level because of how the World is. Rory and Maris are clearly to young to judge this. Janet is definitely on Beyonces level if not higher and Beyonce is not where Madonna was, much less Michael. Thriller is the top selling Album of every Album EVER made. 70 million. Beyonce doesn't even have one in the top 20 and she went solo in the TRL era. They are not the same.

Mr Nice watch should have never happened. Painful thinking about it

Rory: "... maybe Kendrick." 🤣 Maybe? Wow!