StarCraft 1: POLAND VS KOREA - Ziggy vs beast

StarCraft 1: POLAND VS KOREA - Ziggy vs beast | CNSL 5

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Ziggy (Terran) vs beast (Zerg), CNSL ro32 Group E, Match 1
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@nelsonhill4625 Жыл бұрын

That's what I call zerg getting a taste of their own medicine.

@oldscoolest Жыл бұрын

Right? How many poor Terrans have died to Muta harass.

@StriKe_jk Жыл бұрын

Not really tho. Zerg died because their supply depos fly and die in a matter of seconds vs wraith making them unable to produce and thus hard shutdown. While Mutas work on an entirely different concept of killing SCVs, widdling down marine forces, mineral starving the terran till you can overpower their army and camp the production.

@bobbaxter57 Жыл бұрын

@@StriKe_jk ok boomer

@Gamerextra1029 Жыл бұрын

I came here to post that. Poetic justice.

@detrockcity3 11 күн бұрын

@@StriKe_jk that's a good argument if he said "these two attacks are the exact same thing," but he didn't.

@chuckbowie5833 Жыл бұрын

Love seeing Terran being successful at cheese for a change

@k1mura92 Жыл бұрын

ah rip your comment was at the top so game got insta spoiled SADGE. But terran cheeses working are indeed life fuel

@chuckbowie5833 Жыл бұрын

@@k1mura92 haha sorry mate. Gotta avoid the comments section before watching!

@Ziegfried82 Жыл бұрын

@@chuckbowie5833 just edit and put it down a few lines saying: Spoiler below. That's what I do haha.

@blacklight4720 Жыл бұрын

why cheese? Looks to me like a "rush"/all in.

@alexlawson4173 Жыл бұрын

@@blacklight4720 its still cheese. there are many different flavors of cheese after all.

@Mrmace51 Жыл бұрын

That was a sick game love seeing the unconventional play! More casts Artosis I could watch these all day! haha thanks for the effort you put into these.

@zeratulonline2047 Жыл бұрын

Pięknie zagrane, pozdrowienia z Polski 😉

@bsxzqq1281 Жыл бұрын

Trochę nas tu jest!

@SalamoonYTB Жыл бұрын

I am a simple Polish SC1 fan - I see "Artosis" and "Poland", I click ❤

@ygazz Жыл бұрын

same here

@SuperBysio 7 ай бұрын

Jazda chlopaki

@TheCopyTitan Жыл бұрын

As a Bulgarian, I was delighted to watch a brother Polish take down a Korean. He needs to up his micro a little, but overall - loved it!

@undertakr Жыл бұрын

love seeing variety of strats even 24 years into the game

@basimaziz Жыл бұрын

3:22 Ok so, I'm thinking Zerg wins this? It'll be slow but, holy crap. 3 bases are almost up. Again, it'll take time to get those bases saturated but, once he does he'll just be balling out of control. Again, this is a call from a noob who doesn't know SC on the pro level. I just see 3 bases on the way and think "Oh, stonks. Stonks is good, right?" Not unless Ziggy kills him before he can get that economy going I guess. Ok so, just finished the video. Yeah, this is why I'm a noob. Nice win Ziggy! That was so cool!

@Krozra Жыл бұрын

I can understand being hesitant on making spores because the first wraith wasn't a guarantee for more, but not cancelling your third when you scout a delayed CC is pretty greedy. What a game!

@naka3339 Жыл бұрын

lmao these silly games are so nostalgic

@dimayurchenko4859 Жыл бұрын

Amazing game! Thank you very much!

@detrockcity3 11 күн бұрын

I will never get tired of karma being delivered to these Muta fiends with wraiths.

@-TheLynx- Жыл бұрын

Man, this was a refreshing move! Awesome game!

@timurk.2357 Жыл бұрын

finally someone made this. more of this tactics pls

@elchinolatino15 Жыл бұрын

Wow this is so refreshing to see. Love it

@qawqaw1481 Жыл бұрын

niceeeeeeee thumb images are boosting subscribers !!!!!!!! keep em coming !!!!!!!!!! WOOOOAA faceessss

@Supergoon1989 Жыл бұрын

Interesting game! You almost never see Wraith play out of Terran. GG!

@richard3706 Жыл бұрын

well, this is the reason you don't go 3 base early as zerg vs a terran going early tech, having to hold 3 positions costs too much, he could have blind hard countered it by going hydra + evo before lair, throwing down one spore in each base with speed + range (this is what Hero does, and flash when he offraces and senses a 2 port wraith), issue is if the terran only makes 1-2 wraiths and just does a 8 minute marine medic + 2 tank timing you just lose. It's sort of the issue with ZvT though, there's so many possible timings/tech choices (2 port wraith, 2 rax fast push, double factory speed vults, fast stim drop, etc) that you can't really properly prepare for all, you just can't afford it. Also beast went overpool vs a wall tech build, which is really bad since a 2 hatch is obviously safe vs it and you have more economy to defend whatever tech timing terran has, overpool is good vs a 1 rax gasless expand since you force a bunker/can delay the CC so it's not so bad, vs overpool you can't delay the tech and you would rather have the economy of a 12 hatch into pool build. And that's why we see 2 hatch muta almost every game since it gets mutas out fast enough to stop any tech build from terran, id imagine this was TR16 with poland to korea so beast didn't want to go 2 hatch muta on a laggy game, can't blame him.

@alexfriedman2047 Жыл бұрын

Yeah really surprised he didn't canel the third base at 3:00 minutes when he sees a wall with 1 marine. Has to be like some kind of tech or fast CC but without confirmation you have to expect it's something like that and just stay on 2 bases. At least I would as a protoss player.

@RichardAlexHolton Жыл бұрын

Need more weird Artosis faces! Should add some arrows and red circles to the thumbnail as well, go full hog.

@2slick4u. Жыл бұрын

Amazing performance with the wraiths !!! GG

@tradingwithcertainty4738 Жыл бұрын

Rage on stream, professional on cast.

@skykur Жыл бұрын

Balanced, as all things should be

@7thquark309 Жыл бұрын

Wraith play is always fun to watch, I thought only Leta was doing it ^^

@ivandovranic5834 Жыл бұрын

Yummmmy. Good one

@invisiblemenproduction Жыл бұрын

Amazing!!

@bobrosstwin5373 Жыл бұрын

Wow what a game the wraiths had my jaw dropped lol.

@curtisbrockman2682 Жыл бұрын

Its a knife fight in a phone booth.

@GASHPAN Жыл бұрын

Zero drones left. Nice. GG!

@j.mbarlow5952 Жыл бұрын

wow a wraith rush. That's actually impressive. Give the Zerg and their muta cheeses a taste of their own medicine

@alucard449 Жыл бұрын

GG!

@wilsonlow2718 Жыл бұрын

New mutas looking sick

@arbootieoaks Жыл бұрын

Should beast have tried to make a couple spore colonies when he realised it was 2 port wraith?

@Ogogghe1 Жыл бұрын

overweight self-confidence

@Appletank8 Жыл бұрын

One or two should’ve helped, thing is Zerg tries avoiding making colonies since they don’t want to sacrifice drones unnecessarily.

@nelsonhill4625 Жыл бұрын

I don't think he even had an evo chamber when the wraiths showed up, so it was probably too late.

@Ziegfried82 Жыл бұрын

At pro level they expect to be able to beat the wraiths without needing spores. Is that hubris? Yes. The zerg player needed to build spores after seeing that first wraith out so early, way too dangerous when you are 3 basing and you see something like that. The moment of truth was when he failed with his scourge though.

@liberphilosophus7481 Жыл бұрын

Takes a long time and a big commitment (considering he already went 3 hatch spire with Sunkens) to get that tech going. Needs an evolution chamber + creep colony + spore colony (80 seconds + 300 minerals to get the first spore if you include the two drones, which is resources he needs to make Hydra/economy), so he gambled that Ziggy can't micro against Hydras.

@tomtrader6559 Жыл бұрын

Brawo Ziggy!:)

@fencserx9423 Жыл бұрын

Love to see wraith play

@CoqPwner Жыл бұрын

SUch satisfying karma when a Terran out-mutas a zerg xD

@attention_shopping Жыл бұрын

yay

@PJJ196 Жыл бұрын

That is some cheesy shit and I love it 😂😂😂

@rareroe305 Жыл бұрын

I'm a Zerg main, but I have to admit that turnabout is fair play.

@markmuller7962 Жыл бұрын

Only quality content from Arty

@FlymanMS Жыл бұрын

It’s so satisfying when Wraiths are being useful and kill things.

@ygazz Жыл бұрын

pierogi power!!!!

@Beammeup87 Жыл бұрын

All I can say is... Our toast is tasteless.

@grouchomcgrouch4150 Жыл бұрын

Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?

@LORFCASTER Жыл бұрын

@srasowski1 Жыл бұрын

Witam i pozdrawiam z pl

@forTodaysAdventure Жыл бұрын

ya shoulda put out a call for replacements... I woulda played

@no1xtz765 Жыл бұрын

Should Zerg just have counter attacked Terran earlier and built spore at home?

@petervlcko4858 Жыл бұрын

He will lost straight away with that. During that time he will pass the map it will lost all drones and oves. He can probably get some spore up in one or two bases but it will be very far behind. Zerglings will do nothing to teran vulture. There was like 6 hydras max and teran can easily counter those vulutures + some marines + some wraith + scvs. Lack of scouting and greed of 3 bases killed zerg.

@antonioangeloviii4748 Жыл бұрын

Making 3 bases vs 1 base tech. Was the death sentance and he knew it. Protecting all that with spores and sunks is impossible. Not enough drones or Econ.

@aljoker7808 Жыл бұрын

IT was ez win for zerg, spore colony at each base and macro, then push.

@Ziegfried82 Жыл бұрын

@@petervlcko4858 it was greed plus not making any spores IMO. If the zerg had done 2 base that wraith attack would not have been nearly as deadly even without spores. The terran went so deep into wraith so the spores would have been more than worth it..honestly if you see a wraith that early as zerg and don't make spores your only hope is a solid scourge hit which the zerg player failed to land.

@antonioangeloviii4748 Жыл бұрын

@@aljoker7808 u need 2 spores to stop 8+ wraiths sniping all your drones. At each base. + The sunks for the vult. If he went hdra speed before spire and lair. He could of survived. Easy?, far from it. Protecting 3 locations at once with pure hydra. Harder then it looks. Problem is, he'd have lost too many drones to be able to mount a big enough army to counter. That's why 3rd exp are always rare in this matchup.

@CtrlAltDfook Жыл бұрын

How's it feel zerg? Because that's how I feel!

@zeheero Жыл бұрын

If Artosis was the Zerg player, he would say, "This guy is terrible! What do I pair up with morons that does not open standard! He is more talented than I am!" Joking guys, hahah.

@cameronmorris7080 Жыл бұрын

LOL go ziggy!

@tiborfarkas1011 Жыл бұрын

@adriansemones Жыл бұрын

Wraith cheese!

@lambertlipnicki1416 Жыл бұрын

Poland stronk

@ThunderChickenBucket Жыл бұрын

nuyce

@misprintsquid Жыл бұрын

wait why dosnt terren try this all the time?

@alexfriedman2047 Жыл бұрын

They do dude. It used to be a very popular build back in the day like back in 2000. It's an original TvZ build. Problem is that mutas fight so well vs wraiths and good zergs just know how to fight it. surprised to see him keep the third base.. and then stay on hydra instead of trying to make muta. even a few muta beat a few wraiths as loing as the overlord is microed and is close enough to detect.

@non_da Жыл бұрын

bro build an evo and a spore!! omg. a single spore can take on like 10 wraiths.

@abstractdaddy1384 Жыл бұрын

Bro you do understand Beast is one of the best zergs in the world? You might be right, but it's easy to judge being a spectator and having seen how the game played out. Additionally, you should assume Beast made better decisions than you would have considering he's literally a million times better than you at the game.

@robbytherob Жыл бұрын

The money he spent on hydras he could have built an evo and spore on two bases.

@oldscoolest Жыл бұрын

His real mistake was splitting hydas so heavily and allowing the wraiths to just go back and forth between main and natural picking off ovies

@Ziegfried82 Жыл бұрын

When he did 3 base and saw that early wraith it was time to rush spores out, he gambled everything on his scourge hitting.

@Mrmace51 Жыл бұрын

@@abstractdaddy1384 Ya but where was the spore lol jk

@JutubCzanel Жыл бұрын

POLSKA GUROM!

@skankhunt_4319 Жыл бұрын

Glad seeing you get more views artosis, but us eastern timezones are suffering due to the change of upload sched..

@michaelgermishuizen-li4qo Жыл бұрын

This is one annoying build to deal with for zerg. Even an immediate pool runs into a wall.. i can imagine you will want to end up building mutalisks later on if you survive the wraiths because there is hardly any marines and no turrets.. just watched some of the Z v Z and im thinking about a way to make a hydra build work for it so i can have my own style of play. Those crazy muta sqourge battles needs to be dealt with..