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StarCraft 2: TOP GAME - The ULTIMATE Deathballs! (Maru vs Reynor)

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LowkoTV

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Күн бұрын

Amazing game of StarCraft 2 between Maru and Reynor. Maru starts off this game with a Blue Flame Hellion push into speedy Widow Mine drops. The game however doesn't end there and it goes the distance, as both players macro up.
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@JSs586
@JSs586 2 жыл бұрын
Zerg's greatest enemy is the population cap
@TCPUDPATM
@TCPUDPATM 2 жыл бұрын
If a real Zerg ever comes out way, RIP.
@min009
@min009 2 жыл бұрын
Zerg can re-max in a minute tho.
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
dont be fucking stupid, without the cap, zerg can produce up so much units that nobody will be able to beat zerg ..among 3 races , zerg mine fastest, expand fastest, and produce fastest
@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7
@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7 2 жыл бұрын
@@min009 yeah but imagine if instead of remaxing they were just double maxed
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in campaign missions, most Zerg enemies are actually multiple AI players who share the same color in order to inflate the 200 supply cap severalfold (also happens in The Dig regarding the Tal'Darim).
@hamburgers7817
@hamburgers7817 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's a long game when Lowko starts calling the nuke a mule twice in a row lol
@theelephantandtherider9536
@theelephantandtherider9536 2 жыл бұрын
just picturing thats whats needed to summon mules normally and its kinda funny.
@emreboga
@emreboga 2 жыл бұрын
Maru is like the Michael Schumacher of SC2. His pulse rate does't go over 100 even when driving 200 mph! Super calm!
@Cd-xy9no
@Cd-xy9no 2 жыл бұрын
Man , can we take a moment of silence for that lone ghost that got vipered then all brood lords smoke him
@vedranv3616
@vedranv3616 2 жыл бұрын
Nah man, we dance upon his grave! 😁
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't suffer
@rbw9692
@rbw9692 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same 😂
@Komatik_
@Komatik_ 2 жыл бұрын
Never say die.
@daethalion1725
@daethalion1725 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I loved that nuke 24 minutes in. The most expensive creep tumor kill in StarCraft history!
@_fisheater1027
@_fisheater1027 2 жыл бұрын
A staple of late game TvZ 😅
@Jbell101792
@Jbell101792 2 жыл бұрын
What an epic game! Genuinely did not know who would win until the last 10 seconds. Great cast as usual!
@loudogg0028
@loudogg0028 2 жыл бұрын
Lowko in every single terran game: Ghosts are pretty good huh?......Yeeaaahh.......they're pre-tty good.
@DiamondPugs
@DiamondPugs 2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts: -"What's my purpose?" Maru: -"You bait Raynor into doing the worst possible trades."
@ihsankurniawan3591
@ihsankurniawan3591 2 жыл бұрын
pass the butter XD
@sinclairfest
@sinclairfest 2 жыл бұрын
Mate your commentary is simply the best. I have been listening to you every night for like a month, and I don't intend to stop!
@paulchiu8853
@paulchiu8853 2 жыл бұрын
When Maru ahead you are already lose, when Maru even you are at a disadvantage, when You are ahead the game actually is even
@Fiaw1
@Fiaw1 2 жыл бұрын
Terran is unbalanced ATM, that is all. Reynor skill level much higher.
@debo2189
@debo2189 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiaw1 Terran unbalanced is the most biased statement I have ever read
@333kenshin
@333kenshin 2 жыл бұрын
strategy thought for ZvT (longtime viewer but not a player so please go easy on me if this is a dumb idea): "Bio Fortress" ie what if Zerg were to setup tactical hatcheries at high ground choke points in the middle of the map, similar to what Maru pioneered doing with planetary fortresses? Like in this match, Reynor maxes out supply at 10:10, at which point he has 96 workers and creep over 50% of the map, including Maru's side of the center. At this point he's banking 3K minerals/min that are totally unproductive. Say instead he used this surplus to lay down 2-3 hatcheries at the top of ramps and chokepoints. With spine crawlers built in the soon-to-run-dry main and an overseer pooping creep, an outpost could be up and running in less time and cost than a planetary fortress. Benefits: 1) lock in creep without having to manage creep tumors (which inevitable fall by the wayside in the chaos of combat). @LowkoTV cites the disadvantage posed by receding creep spread at 25:28. 2) facilitate building static defense at the front lines without the concern of pulling drones from the line and risking them traveling 3) ensures a queen is always close to the action and with energy available for healing since she's not pooping creep 4) since these chokepoints are where Maru's offense gets most bogged down, even with a full complement of ghosts, thors, libs, firebats, and tanks (see 34:30 of this match, also 2:10:50 of his Bo7 match with Serral last xmas), having faster reinforcements, permanent creep, and the ability to withstand multiple nukes will make it even harder for him. Even if the position eventually falls, he'll have devoted a ton attention and slow-moving units in one section of the map that is ultimately expendable. Which dovetails nicely into 5) even as one position is under assault, the others can serve as staging grounds for ling/bane runbys, viper yoinks against Terran expansions 6) potential to opportunistically long distance mine / setup popup hatch on opponent's expansion. Even if the enemy eventually shuts it down, the minerals are denied them forever 7) static defense are safe against libs and steady targeting, and only cost minerals, freeing up gas for vipers, which can also consume them for energy 8) provides a safe base of operations for brood lords to hide behind, minimize the distance they have to traverse and always maximizing their range by shooting outwards towards the edges of the map
@altf113
@altf113 2 жыл бұрын
@34:23 I love it when ghost try to land Mules 😂
@MrFrostieBalls
@MrFrostieBalls 2 жыл бұрын
Terran mains watching the last 5 minutes of this match like "WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, MATT HORNER!!!!!"
@TheDumial
@TheDumial 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem here was the Thor than the ghost, that range and extra dps against massive units destroy the broods, this was a beautiful dance, but all good must end
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 2 жыл бұрын
Maru: (after the early game) Call an ambulance!...but not for me...
@luckycandy101
@luckycandy101 2 жыл бұрын
It seems the Terran strategy in these late game high level TvZ is to starve out the Zerg with cost-efficient trades as they slowly expand. While the Zerg tries to break the Terran before they deplete their income base. It makes me wonder if sending mass banelings to break bases is really worth it.
@acehughj4527
@acehughj4527 2 жыл бұрын
Man seeing those masses of banes getting kapunked by the planetaries are just... It only looks good but the resource inefficiency is ridiculous!
@etistyle96
@etistyle96 2 жыл бұрын
it's worthy if you don't fight wolrd top 5 Terran xD
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
that is because zerg mine the fastest among the 3 races , fastest expand too..you cannot go head on with zerg like that , either starve them out or kill their bases individually ..however if there is no mistake on both side, starving strategy will be the only method will work
@DrApylon
@DrApylon 2 жыл бұрын
It can represent a massive tempo swing if you take out a base and force the Terran Army to split apart. The issue was Reynor took a big risk sending most of the banelings after the high value ghosts, which if they hit would have likely ended the game right then and there, otherwise when he hit defensive positions with banelings he didn't have a follow-up prepared and was unable to capitalize on the hole he created. It 100% can be worth it, but you need to have a force that can capitalize upon it to cripple the infrastructure, destroy the army outright or establish a solid contain to prevent expansion.
@ReverendJRBobDobbs
@ReverendJRBobDobbs 2 жыл бұрын
You can apply a simple formula to shorten you watch time with these TvZ games. Watch until the Terran gets a ghost ball. Check if the Zerg player is Serral. If not, skip to the end where the Terran will have turtled till the map ran out of resources and then won because, despite controlling the majority of the map for the majority of the game, the Zerg player has no cost effective way of attacking him and just runs out of money.
@Arkeli5
@Arkeli5 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible game. Their nerves must be shattered after a game like that. It's very tough to know what to do about the Terran late game, especially against the quality of Maru. I mean, you trade out early and mid game, to try and stop the Terran ever reaching the deathball but then if they manage to hold on, there's an argument to be made that you didn't trade efficiently. I thought Reynor was testing Maru with the nidus and if there was a time Maru didn't respect it, lings would flood in. There was one opportunity for that but Reynor didn't seem to fancy it. I wonder if he'd loaded all those banelings he wasted chasing ghosts into the nidus and poured them out into the production would they have been better spent? What a game though. I've no nails left 😂
@danilajagger2279
@danilajagger2279 2 жыл бұрын
just wanna say man. It is so pleasant to watch you. Already saw 40 videos of yours. Very enjoying it. Curious, have you thought of commenting the real tournaments? Let us know it the next video. !!!!!!!!!!
@danielkim9997
@danielkim9997 2 жыл бұрын
He's an actual caster.
@tacticalnukegaming8979
@tacticalnukegaming8979 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most frustrating things about this Zerg late game is how broods are not only the slowest army in the game, but also the most expensive, and still ineffective at fighting compared to the Taron army without their spellcasters energy being high. But when those stars align and Zerg is able to mine out the whole map, I think any other terran in the world would have buckled under this pressure
@CaptainYesz
@CaptainYesz 2 жыл бұрын
Should be very happy if terrans walk into fighting you rather than going to where you are not then
@Arnianor
@Arnianor 2 жыл бұрын
It does feel like ghost is too efficient. Between the EMPs, the nukes, the snipes and the invinsibility, this one single unit counters almost anything a zerg can do save for lings, which are easily dealt with by a few other units. In TvP, ghosts can emp the toss army and remove all shields (+ energy and cloak), countering in a single spell a ton of units, while being cloaked and having a great range.
@vegetasaijan6052
@vegetasaijan6052 2 жыл бұрын
We either need to rework some spells, or remove cloak and make them slower then off creep banelings.
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
however, only him can control that well to be efficient, not everybody can do so
@nate5780
@nate5780 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand it's one of the only reliable late game counters terran has against zerg or protoss, as it stands now late game without ghosts wouldnt be viable for terran. If you do a massive debuff of the ghost you would have to slightly buff some like mech or sky units if terran. But that would force terran out of bio in the late game making their play style way more static
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 2 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that the Ghost basically carries Terran as a playable race on its back for any lategame play because every single non-bio unit Terran has is too garbage to perform the roles they're supposed to in an remotely efficient manner. If the Ghost is nerfed then Terran becomes unplayable at the professional level unless most mech and air units get a substantial buff to compensate because Ghosts are that absurdly huge of a factor for allowing Terran to succeed at all.
@kawashinimon
@kawashinimon 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years LOL. Ghosts are one of the most broken units in the game - EMP, cloak, snipe, and has a solid stat base including regular damage. They're not even drastically more expensive than other race's spellcasters. And of course, nukes (but nukes are in a great place IMO). Yes, Terran mech/sky needs to be buffed back up and ghosts nerfed down. Terran play is already static - ghosts, ghosts, and some other units to support them.
@craven3190
@craven3190 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic game. I was on the edge of my seat, the whole time game of the year.
@CubeItself
@CubeItself 2 жыл бұрын
i think reynor couldve won with a bit of better harassmenet and efficient trades but what i learned from the last gsl stream in TvZ with maru is that he'll always win late game with his super efficient trades and ghosts
@robinpilar6098
@robinpilar6098 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, Maru vs Dark game 1 in last week gsl .. that game was awesome.
@justsomeguy1671
@justsomeguy1671 2 жыл бұрын
A few more abducts of thors and he would have won
@MisterDragelof
@MisterDragelof 2 жыл бұрын
I like how deadpan, stern and completely honest Lowko’s “Fan-Tastic” (5:45) to Reynor is. And then proceeds to complement him even further like a high school teacher
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 2 жыл бұрын
Lowko is a Zerg at heart... it is impossible to hide that.
@F3d4ykin
@F3d4ykin 2 жыл бұрын
"Ghost Mech" he says, Ghost in the Machine is right there!!!
@Rockpet
@Rockpet 2 жыл бұрын
Lowko, I figured something out. Reynor might be the first person to be on aligulac twice and both accounts in the top 50. Reynor has a random account in rank 34 on aligulac I think.
@Big5ocks
@Big5ocks 2 жыл бұрын
That would be so cool if true!! Zerg still op? 😂
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 2 жыл бұрын
Race swapper, not Random.
@sage4670
@sage4670 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing to me is that maru is the other player with a suuuuper high level offrace. Years ago he had his toss at #2 in the kr gm ladder, and recently he beat percival with his toss in the tsl qualifiers
@miragenikita6329
@miragenikita6329 2 жыл бұрын
damn that must have hurt for Reynor having the advantage for so long and not nailing the last nail in the coffin.
@Fiaw1
@Fiaw1 2 жыл бұрын
Reynor played better all game. Can you imagine how difficult it is endgame with all the different control groups and 4-5 spells being casts while keep max range with 2-3 of the caster units? Compared to Terran? Lol.
@GrimYak
@GrimYak 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiaw1 All game? considering he lost, id say thats false.
@Fiaw1
@Fiaw1 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrimYak That's the problem, he can macro better, and micro better, and still lose to ghosts. You can disagree that's fine, but your logic is painfuly idiotic. We have a knife fight, you are more skilled, cut me up bad, in the end I pulled out a gun and shoot you, your stoll better at knife fighting.
@BrutusNomz
@BrutusNomz 2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts are broken
@asterpw
@asterpw 2 жыл бұрын
Really close! Despite the loss mass Brood Lord looks really promising. At 38:35 Reynor had a really interesting tech with targeting his own broodlings to maintain an impassable large clump of broodlings which kept the ghosts and thors at bay. Maybe targeting his own changlings would have helped keep up the broodling count.
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter because with enough Blueflame Hellbat, all the BLing would get melted the moment the land. Thats the whole reason why those Hellbat are so important to this lategame Terran army, they bait the shot from the Blord and clean them up instantly.
@catstealer419dominion7
@catstealer419dominion7 2 жыл бұрын
The endgame army comps of both players were a meta-critique of the game design itself. Zerg maxed out on mammoth tanks-er I mean brood lords- but One Fungal Could End The Game = balanced game.
@daisyjohnson5103
@daisyjohnson5103 2 жыл бұрын
34:24 He's so excited for the fight he couldn't even speak properly lol
@Damonadjinn
@Damonadjinn 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Lowko, I was making coffee and completely forgot
@stevenrovira9559
@stevenrovira9559 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man 2 Raynor games in a row where he loses, he's gonna be coming for Lowko again
@Keilink
@Keilink 2 жыл бұрын
Thors assisted by (blueflame) hellbats, it sounds so obvious but we see it so rarely huhu
@miles8385
@miles8385 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing game! Really good micro and decision making all around, even my inner "KZfaq Commenter MegamasterLeague Sc2 Player" self can't think of much that could have been done better.
@xidjazulix
@xidjazulix 2 жыл бұрын
somethings got to give on terrans utility vs zerg. either give broods their range back, or allow a flight speed upgrade for them, or remove snipes from ghost, or increase the snipe cost, or reduce the range, or increase the emp cost, or nerf the range of thors. broods used to be the ultimate counter to thors, now thors are the ultimate counter to broods.
@ThunderChanter
@ThunderChanter 2 жыл бұрын
It is my belief both Reynor and Maru are both 3 people in a trench coat, and since they're sitting down at a PC they bottom 2 bodies dont need to use their arms to keep the stack stacked, and thats how they manage such high APM. And the pro scene is in on this and uses body dooubles at tourneys
@ryuko6997
@ryuko6997 Жыл бұрын
i think everything is faster moving than Mass Brute Lords lmao
@aaaab384
@aaaab384 2 жыл бұрын
Well played by both.
@yamilabugattas3895
@yamilabugattas3895 2 жыл бұрын
Top tier game, definitely. While not very on point with his micro, Maru has superb decision making skills, his units are always where they need to be at the right time.
@briancattani5109
@briancattani5109 2 жыл бұрын
my mind is once again blown.
@brianc1309
@brianc1309 2 жыл бұрын
Maru is soooo bring to watch. Bio army with ghosts every game and then turtle, wow so impressive
@SpencerJWang
@SpencerJWang 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like watching Maru because he's really good at what he does even if it does seem a little boring. He along with ByuN are my two favorite Terrans to watch, much like a lot of others
@54365100
@54365100 2 жыл бұрын
the point of tournaments is winning
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
You watch any of Serral game? The man literally won World Title because he defend EVERYTHING while sending minor harassments here and there every games.
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer 2 жыл бұрын
the last time Ghosts got a change was the increased area damage fromt the EMP upgrade, and that wasn't that long ago was it?
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
That was Aug 2019, so 3 years ago.
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Maru said he was having pains in his wrists while playing. May explain the micro and the mech focuses play
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
He has suffered a major shoulder injury 2 years ago, which required intensive medical treatment at the time, and 3-4 months of inaction. So it is believed that his current style was made to work around that injury
@thetrexgorawr
@thetrexgorawr 2 жыл бұрын
Why the heck do terrans not make ravens? Just the creep denial alone is worth. Not to mention seeker missile fucks up broods since they cant split that well.
@_fisheater1027
@_fisheater1027 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea to increase brood lord range: Can you send a ling (or any unit. Tunneling claws would be practical) ahead of the army then attack your own unit before clashing w/ the opponent’s army thus deploying the broods pre-emptively (kinda like carriers attacking rocks)? If anyone has APM to spare, it would be the top-tier zergs. PS I don’t play, just watch 😅
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Dark literally just tried this earlier today against Byun in ESL Open Cup America. He target his own Broodling and micro them into the TErran army 2 screens away. The issue with that, is Blueflame Hellbat can just 1 shot them.
@Donovankovic
@Donovankovic Жыл бұрын
OMG that epic MARU AND REYNOR O M G......
@josephdiscavage2709
@josephdiscavage2709 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t really a nerf directly to Ghosts, but I think giving banelings bonus damaged vs psionic enemies would give Zerg more choices to counter ghosts than just “fungal and throw your zerglings on top of them”
@Whalery
@Whalery 2 жыл бұрын
That's a big nerf to Archons which are the natural counter to banes by soaking their shots. I would rather nerf the efficient of snipe and allow Raven's interference matrix to be able to disable all unit types except ultra so ravens will have more things to do in TvZ (little to zero effect in TvT and TvP).
@josephdiscavage2709
@josephdiscavage2709 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whalery that makes sense. My worry was that banes would be better again HTs, but I forgot about archons. Obviously it wouldn’t make much sense if archons had NO unit types. That being said, I think that the best way to keep ghosts from dominating the late game is not to nerf them into the ground, or even buff other units around them, but rather to buff things that counter the ghost even slightly, so that there would be more general use of them in the late game, reducing the effectiveness of the ghost
@Whalery
@Whalery 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephdiscavage2709 I was thinking about the efficient of snipe. Instead of dealing 170 instantly, it should deal 120 + 50 over 1 second. This means it will not instantly kill roaches, vipers, and swarm hosts like it used to, but they will still die from bleeding out. Unable to insta kill is a huge nerf and allows the bleeding units to soak some extra damage or do extra things before dying. Ultras will receive a huge indirect buff by unable to just 3 shots to kill but 4 and wait till them bleeding. With this in mind and combined with the raven change, it should reduce the power of ghosts in a bit. They will still dominate a lot of Zerg units with 2 shots tho.
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
just ask blizzard to remove ghost completely :D
@mq9047
@mq9047 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a game
@csmlouis
@csmlouis 2 жыл бұрын
After watching the real scale series, those Thors are puny!!!
@SmithnWesson
@SmithnWesson 2 жыл бұрын
Blue flame underneath the water. Okay. Why not?
@sage4670
@sage4670 2 жыл бұрын
To everyone wanting ghosts to be nerfed. Do you really want Z to have the best early game (queens stop 99% of T attacks), the best midgame (it's been ages since any T is consistently able to break a Z), and the best late game? Imagine a scenario where the race that mines the map faster is also strongest in all parts of the game
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
Salt. +1/+1 and +2/+2 are huge power spikes for terran bio in tvz
@sage4670
@sage4670 2 жыл бұрын
@@GBS4893 yeah. Those power spikes sure helped clem beat serral this past hsc, or beat dark last year at tsl, or rogue in, idk, every tournament they've played
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 2 жыл бұрын
@@sage4670 Zerg players need to win at everything, its the only way for things to stay balanced.
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 2 жыл бұрын
@@vanguard6498 this is unironically true. alot of people blame balance for why zerg wins every tournament but this is false if starcraft to was balance we should see zergs winning ever tournament. why becuase zerg is a reactive race while the other two are proactive races. to put it simply zerg players benift way more from the tournament format the protoss or teran do. I'm not saying that's fair. what I am seeing is torment wins does not equal unit imbalance.
@AndrewBryanSapigaotarsonis
@AndrewBryanSapigaotarsonis 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm nowhere near the level of these guys but an honest question here: there were times Maru had Mass Libs but never used it vs broodlords. in game simulations, libs deal great damage when clumped up. care to explain?
@TrautBox
@TrautBox 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing game to watch, and 2 of my favorite players!
@chamber20projects
@chamber20projects 2 жыл бұрын
Terran is just too cost efficient. I've thought about ghosts for awhile. It's not that their abilities are too powerful, it's that they have too many. They counter everything. It would be interesting to split them up the way High and Dark templar are. Imagine a templar with High and Dark abilities. Scary.
@Stilllife1999
@Stilllife1999 2 жыл бұрын
Not even a zerg player but ghosts need a move speed nerf so that banelings can catch up to them
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
nah bullshits its not that fast as you think, zerg running on creep tumors are faster than ghost, stop whining
@user-et2eg6jo8i
@user-et2eg6jo8i 2 жыл бұрын
No
@Stilllife1999
@Stilllife1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@teeee8534 classic big brained whataboutism
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
There is a spell call Fungal that can actually slow down units.
@Andreych95
@Andreych95 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit what a war
@frozeneagle109
@frozeneagle109 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lowko, it would be interesting to see also some shorter games; some cheese here and there to switch it up. You mostly select very long replays, currently. Thx for considering it :)
@petrkorunka8982
@petrkorunka8982 2 жыл бұрын
I have no words
@ODG_ninja
@ODG_ninja 2 жыл бұрын
maru is fucking insane, how the hell did he win this. that was awesome to watch rip to reynor
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 2 жыл бұрын
op Ghost thats how
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfriesmacdonalds5879 so you see any other Terran doing the same thing?
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 2 жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 yeah lots of people can press the snipe button
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfriesmacdonalds5879 and they all can snipe their way to a lategame victory against the top Zergs in the world?
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 2 жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 they snipe at their respective levels.
@HiryuBlue
@HiryuBlue 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that was stressful to watch
@remusalexandru1251
@remusalexandru1251 2 жыл бұрын
At 34:24 ish does Lowko says mule instead of Nuke or am I dumb?
@sz-gn9id
@sz-gn9id Жыл бұрын
what a great game
@TubeTAG
@TubeTAG 2 жыл бұрын
I still feel like Ultralisks should be buffed to be made into the Ghost counter. I've always wondered how it would go if they tried giving the Chitinous Plating upgrade a 50% resistance to spell damage in addition to its normal +2.
@kawashinimon
@kawashinimon 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good idea. Would make them the anti-spellcaster zerg needs, would be good against high templar too. Would add an interesting dynamic to the game and make ultras actually useful....
@estebansalgado6143
@estebansalgado6143 2 жыл бұрын
Ghost are counter for ultras lol and you have to think not only in tvz, your "recommendation" just stands for one matchup and it's not enough
@TubeTAG
@TubeTAG 2 жыл бұрын
@@estebansalgado6143 I didn’t call it a recommendation. It was a random idea I’ve had a few times. I don’t think it would magically fix the whole issue by itself.
@TubeTAG
@TubeTAG 2 жыл бұрын
@@kawashinimon It would also protect them some from Disruptors in ZvP, leaving Immortals and Void Rays as the hard counters. That being said, I dunno if that would be too much. I’m just spitballing here.
@kawashinimon
@kawashinimon 2 жыл бұрын
@@estebansalgado6143 Ghosts counter ultras... because of snipe. Spell damage. Hence his idea.
@realitybites1253
@realitybites1253 2 жыл бұрын
Commentator: "would love to see my fellow European win this game against the other guy who doesn't look like me" "I'm sick of these people winning all the time!!!"
@jocho87
@jocho87 2 жыл бұрын
Is it an option for the zerg player to mine the outher bases earlier when they have map control. Then the starvation method might be less effective? Your thoughts guys? I know this gives problems with creep spread and defense, but it still seems to me that this is a better option
@thiaahmin7176
@thiaahmin7176 2 жыл бұрын
How did the Broodlords win @ 41:00 only to throw the last engagement??
@thatdude3943
@thatdude3943 2 жыл бұрын
Landing a "Mule" at 34:25 ?
@theetiologist9539
@theetiologist9539 2 жыл бұрын
I know Maru is a world class player and I know nothing comparatively, but when Maru losses most of his army at the 41 minute mark, why doesn't he just make a bunch of vikings to snipe the broods with? Why did he go back to Thors? Wouldn't it be better to have an asymetric answer there?
@stalwart56k
@stalwart56k 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a game!
@rbotnevik
@rbotnevik 2 жыл бұрын
Weird request here i guess: But could you do more short games cast? Maybe 3-4 in one cast or Bo3/5s. More reflective of the actual game and feels like a better chance to see cool tricks
@TheHighborn
@TheHighborn 2 жыл бұрын
36:10 Reynor pulled a tyrannid from W40k. He literally clogged Marus guns with so much stuff, they couldn't function LMFAO
@ey-eyroughn5972
@ey-eyroughn5972 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that Zero Hour play. Cant find it.
@brianmendelson1736
@brianmendelson1736 2 жыл бұрын
seems like lots of queens to transfuse the brood lords would have been good
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 2 жыл бұрын
Wooo Maru, the only good bug is a dead bug!
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood Zerg passivity in the late game. Take terran bases early and start mining them. If you have broodlords, force a fight. It seems that zergs are doing everything in their power to give away any strength they have in ultra-late game.
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 2 жыл бұрын
if you force a fight with broodlords against thors as zerg your broodlords die becuase the thor outranges them. "take Terran bases early and start mining them" that Is way easier said than done. raynor in this game tried to kill his opponents bases multiple times attacking from different angles and didn't manage to break through. zergs do not have power in the late game all late game zerg units get countered by ghosts.
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@creeperkingdom3190 How this dynamic changes if zerg does not engage? Thors will always outrange broodlords, the only difference that there will be more Thors. Lay down the creep, bring queens to the front and lay siege to terran. What attacking enemy bases has to do with what I had said? The idea is to take expansions which are normally terran's early on and fully saturate them with drones and defenses. The idea being that if you have early to mid game lead and cannot effectively trade armies or close the game, you should instead leverage that advantage into economical one. If Terran tries to kill one base, you then gather your army and kill one of terran's expansions.
@abelf8079
@abelf8079 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Reynor focus a target like a zergling or a creep tumor with the brood lords to put the broodlings on the ground and then select the broodlings and A move to the Terran army?
@etistyle96
@etistyle96 2 жыл бұрын
most damage of broodling comes from impact. The damage after that are realy low. plus the distance between the terran army and the broodling would be cleared by tank.
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
broodling would burn by hellbat and blasted by tank when its on the ground
@yagoa
@yagoa 2 жыл бұрын
Why no mule repair on the Thors?
@Russianninja956
@Russianninja956 2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts IMBA!!! Lol! But seriously a great game, if it was any other Terran in the world I think Reynor takes that game all day. WP.
@pernykvist3442
@pernykvist3442 2 жыл бұрын
Im setting on battle hero mod It ise to be little intressting🙂 But i have hard time to master Zerg in SC2. My plan with double Hive cluster fell when the queen have larve!
@TCPUDPATM
@TCPUDPATM 2 жыл бұрын
What a game.
@woeichyuanleong924
@woeichyuanleong924 2 жыл бұрын
amazing game played by Maru.
@simonkonicek1300
@simonkonicek1300 2 жыл бұрын
This game should be in a books as proof how broken ghosts are. Maru loosing whole game...than win.
@vedranv3616
@vedranv3616 2 жыл бұрын
Ghosts are completely broken, and always get a free pass when other units get a nerf. The least they could do is cap the number of ghost to about 5 or so. You can have only one Mothership, and that unit is still weaker (less useful) than a ghost.
@teeee8534
@teeee8534 2 жыл бұрын
its broken because he controls them so well, no one able to do that, can you ? show me your replay and prove ghosts are so op..stop crying baby
@DiamondPugs
@DiamondPugs 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't loosing the whole game. He was on the verge of loosing but he was able to hold and Raynor was trading so bad in every engagement that he eventually started to fall behind.
@alfriesmacdonalds5879
@alfriesmacdonalds5879 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiamondPugs because of ghost...
@flyingiguana409
@flyingiguana409 2 жыл бұрын
and 80% of terran players don't have the skill to take advantage of them
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 2 жыл бұрын
The cost efficiency of maru is just off the charts.
@evan-uk6iv
@evan-uk6iv 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible game
@javierdelaregata503
@javierdelaregata503 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or can the ghost just snipe all the overlords and then cloak snipe the broodlords
@duomaxx
@duomaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Zerg lost the battle of attrition. LOLS
@sveketatu
@sveketatu 2 жыл бұрын
Zerg: I have a lot of population I am unstoppable let him grow up to make me the fight 🤦
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing 👍👍👏👏
@Xulerminecraft
@Xulerminecraft 2 жыл бұрын
Professional gameplay commentary? I click.
@javierribes3620
@javierribes3620 2 жыл бұрын
MARUU THE GOD
@muhammadzinc5228
@muhammadzinc5228 2 жыл бұрын
T too OP. Ghosts, Mules, CC lifting after expansion gets wasted. What a load of bullshit. And this is coming from a T player myself.
@soligaming5729
@soligaming5729 2 жыл бұрын
A Bronze player so your opinion doesn't count ;)
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
Zerg got Queen that can defend, heal, boost production and spread creep, completely fair and balance mechanics.
@muhammadzinc5228
@muhammadzinc5228 2 жыл бұрын
@@soligaming5729 Bronze? lol ok bud, keep dreaming
@crazydog266
@crazydog266 2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadzinc5228 Z too op. Queens, fungal, broodl, nydus, creep spread providing both vision and mobility. What a load of bullshit. AnD tHis is cOmIng fRom a Z pLaYer mYsElf.
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 2 жыл бұрын
Maru: magical macro maniac.
@plurplursen7172
@plurplursen7172 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Starcraft!
@richardbeard9391
@richardbeard9391 2 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ
@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ 2 жыл бұрын
If both players mine out the map, then the winner should be the one with the more efficient trades. Which is almost always Terran.
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats why Zerg need to keep Terran stay in the corner and start to mine out the bases on Terran side, you cant win if both side mine the same amount on the map.
@PhysicsNerd25
@PhysicsNerd25 2 жыл бұрын
This should be an iodis
@jaroslavstepan6084
@jaroslavstepan6084 2 жыл бұрын
30 Brood Lords. No Vikings. Ship Weapons lvl 3. I'm surprised.
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
Viking is terrible because they can be chained with Fungal + Parasitic Bomb. One bad hit and you will lose all 20-30 Vikings.
@jaroslavstepan6084
@jaroslavstepan6084 2 жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 good answer. I am just wondering how could zerg's low anti-air be abused in that game. Guess one or two BCs could be nice (Maru had fusion core lately).
@crenox4617
@crenox4617 2 жыл бұрын
43:02 If reynor sent the zerglins to the rear of the thors he would win the battle or at least survive, unfortunately they fell into the position of the infernal bats and lost the game
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 жыл бұрын
lol, you dont think Maru let those Hellbat stayed there by "accident", do you?
@vladislavivanov8334
@vladislavivanov8334 2 жыл бұрын
queens not op enough, they need to provide supply as well
@antoniocarmona9567
@antoniocarmona9567 2 жыл бұрын
No video yesterday 🤨 ima need you to say on it. lol
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