I try to share the spreadsheets I make for my own progress, while not creating videos of me reading spreadsheets. The struggle is real. :) Thanks for watching!

Appreciate the comments, definitely on stacking Neurajack (or more importantly not). I was lost in the fun, maybe 2am, when I cut the video for this and thought "well if one works, two can't hurt" , no time to test that part, keep moving! Thanks for watching!

He's great and Styx gets a new paint job after that last update (May)!

Yeah, especially since buying the ammo lets me sell more gear to stores

Ammo availability is one of many issues that virtually disappears the longer you play. I know I accumulate ammunition at an absurd rate at level 150 / NG+5. In contrast, my starter characters can exhaust their supply quickly and are balancing ship upgrades and sometimes premium weapons in the early levels. I literally think twice before buying 5k in ammo at the earliest stages. Overall, this is a step in the right direction, adds a source of XP (that doesn't come from buying ammo) and potentially RP value.

Felt like they snuck it in the patch notes and one of their longer form videos. There are a lot of other small things changing that are NOT in the patch notes too. I walk around and get the feeling like something's changed, but I can't put my finger on it.

@@kineer I'm wondering how much of it's visual addition/improvement I took a break from starfield about 2 months ago, loaded it up last night to try the new stuff, and I felt it was a *lot* stronger visually. Not cyberpunk 2077 strong, but a lot closer to that level than I remembered, unless I'm imagining things

Y'all crazy it just runs slightly better, maybe the lighting was tweaked a tiny bit again. Maybe I'm crazy

​@@echo5827ya you're blind aswell

​@@nathanweitzman9531 bruh, cyberpunk without ray tracing doesn't even look close to Starfield's graphics.... With ray tracing, sure it looks better.... But if Starfield ever gets ray tracing, it'll easily be the best looking game for its humungous size

I am perhaps a more dangerous combination, engineer with a dash of business background. ;)

Apex!

@@kineer When you enter Apex Electronics, there is a second man there named Vicente Salinas. If you talk to him and do a simple run-and-fetch quest for him you get access to "Salinas Hardware". It's a weapon shop he runs from the backroom of Apex.

Definitely. I grab that quest on all new characters and NG+ starts. I'm going going Red Mile anyway and it's easy credits. Other than that, man is he SLOOWWWW just walking around. :)

@@kineer Painfully SLOOOW. Talking and walking both. :)

I have a few StarUI inventory mods (Outpost, Workshop, Inventory). The "HUD" one broke during the May beta and I haven't gone back to re-test. I did NOT see them in the Creations store last night, but I hope something like it makes it over soon so everyone has access. Gives me that spreadsheet view with sorting that I like.

>most entertaining weapons go through ammunition at a ridiculous rate Truth! also: Taskmaster Step 1 - Get to make ammo. Step 2 - Get to make ammo easier. You'll never get that development manager job at Bethesda with such lofty expectations. :) We have to have something to look forward to in 2025.

With you on this. The amount of ammo I "just find" is insane when skilled up and wandering about. This is an early character issue, but I really like the option. I'm still playing with different ammo, but it looks like the economics vary significantly depending on the type and general availability. That is, something like 40MM XPL is a pain to find in the game, crafting is more expensive than buying but I'd happily do it. Other types of ammo are far more expensive and can I've found one that can be crafted for 15% of the retail cost (even with my discounts). For early character development, it's a fun new option for me.

Awesome. I think it was 2AM and I was just grabbing video, looked at that and told myself "two can't hurt, but might not help - keep moving!" Thanks for the comment.

The number of things I've walked past is probably too high to count.

See this is the problem with many people calling the game boring ... They all just wanna quickly go from one quest to another like its a linear game, or just grind like it's a multiplayer.... instead of actually exploring. Can't blame them.... Starfield is the only real big rpg since witcher 3, so people have actually forgotten how to play them

@@amitansurkar1769 yes I sort of agree..as I'm currently exploring deep into Titans quest..but it all does seem boring and I love the game and had it since day 1. But not enough random hostile events outside of quest. How about random attacks when your in colonies be the CF that would be dope. I've almost completed the main quest twice but an update to the game has always had me start over feel like i'm not missing much by not completing Starborn quest.

@@Momula101 ya lack of random events is a missed opportunity, but with the modding tool kit available, we will get mods that address that issue ... But I don't think it makes the game boring in any way tho... It's a huge game, so naturally there won't be as many random events as say Skyrim, cause that's a much smaller map

@@amitansurkar1769 yea makes me wish the game was more condensed though feel like they tried to No Mans Sky approach with all these planets but your right I can't wait till modders really get a hold of this. 4-5 years from now it's gonna be nuts

I've only scratched the surface on the economics, but love the 'cost per damage' concept. For now, have noticed that some ammo is very inexpensive to craft compared to the retail options and other ammo costs more to make than to buy. The higher manufacture cost item was 40MM XPL, but I'd happily spend the time and credits to get more since it's scarce. Haven't looked at all of them, but I it looks like some thought went into that aspect.

Feels like a lot of my resource issues would (will?!?) be resolved when I can scrap/disassemble things. Full weapon crafting is a great dream. Keep hope alive!

Definitely different utility depending on your level and advancement in the game. My starting assumption is Bethesda makes changes first to attract new players or make the early game easier. They address issues for those of us already committing time later. The former is to stop early-abandonment. The latter is done to avoid fatigue and late-defections. We all come and go from games, but I bet the Bethesda team (and their Microsoft overseers) watch that early game time very closely. How many people "put down their fork after the bite of a meal" hits harder than the guy finishing the main course and suggesting it could be seasoned better. ;) I've definitely started on dessert myself so I have to think back to what it was like to just sit down and start. For now I've started buying all primers and diodes as I do other things in the game. They are stacking up fast. More vendors than I assumed have them and I'll likely have plenty on hand for my occasional crafting needs. I'm doing this on a Lvl 150/NG+5 so I really want to test-drive it with my under 20 character.

Good question. I like your "Starfield economist" (Ferengi?) angle.

It would be cool if legendary effects worked like enchantments in Skyrim. You can destroy the weapon with all the effects on it, and learn one effect from it that you can then craft onto other weapons.

Depends on play style. With my second character I've been doing mostly city/settlement questing for credits to buy a ship (this is a "screw Constellation" run so I'm not using the Frontier, and the character is moral, so not allowed to murder people for their ship). So when I do have to do a shoot-n-loot, I'm chronically low on ammo, because my aim sucks and early game guns are crap. This will be GREAT for that character. It's very much a YMMV thing.

At higher levels, I have all the ammo I could ever need. It's a temporary problem, but I have found myself short of ammo on some weapons for startup character AND somewhat unwilling to just buy it. Nice fit for those leaning into RP.

You should see my Digipick video, lol! ngl, a little insane. But yes, this vendor hunting routine is arguably un-fun. I distinctly remember Todd saying they took things out (like ship fuel) because they weren't fun, yet here we are. Ironically enough, the lack of vendor inventory for items like this pushes the lever toward pack-rat looting styles while exploring. That in turn is counterbalanced by limited inventory, but can be eliminated now. So many odd balancing points in this (and other games). I do appreciate they are giving us more control over some of them over time though.

@@kineer I can't help being a pack rat in this game

I'm thinking about this one. I seem to recall there is a Skill that might track your ingredients, but I don't know how effective it is across multiple recipes. I might need to uninstall my StarUI to test it as well. [thinking]

Interesting. Is that PC and Xbox?

Thanks! I think it was 2AM and I was grabbing video, told myself "two can't hurt, but might not help - keep moving!" Good to know!

You can get one buff from each of clothing, medicine, and skills.

After a quick test, you can take both Neurajack and Synapse Alpha. The entire med/chem isn't replace, but individual effects are replaced with the longest lasting one you've taken. For example, if you take "Synapse Alpha" first, you get "Research Projects required fewer resources for 10m". Let a few seconds tick by so there's only 9:45 left. Then take a dose of Neurajack. It will replace the original "Research Projects ..." benefit with its own 10m timer AND add the +50% bonus to Sudden Developments. The status from Synapse Alpha will be gone from your status page. So it looks like it replaced it. Which is effectively did. There's no need for Synapse Alpha to be listed on your status page so it's removed. If you take them in the opposite order you'll get "+50% chance of Research Sudden Developments" and "Research Projects required fewer resources for 10m" from Neurajack. Let the clock tick down a bit and take the Synapse Alpha. Now your status will show both chems as active, but the Neurajack will NOT show "Research Projects required fewer resources for 10m" any longer. It will just show "+50% chance of Research Sudden Developments". You will also see the Synapse Alpha with the one effect on resources. So it replaced that single effect with one that lasts 10m from the time you take it.

Might be worth noting that I edit my videos and I cut long load times so you don't have to watch them. That can give the impression that things are faster than I experience. However, I am on PC and it seems to work well. I wasn't good at using fast travel as much, but subscribers kept reminding me when they saw me "doing things the slow way" in videos. They were nice about it, but some were funny. "Are you doing that for RP reasons?" :) CPU isn't anywhere near cutting edge, but I've tried to do upgrades (SSD, GPU) to help over time. edit: When I can, I'll be picking up an Xbox for testing as well.

Pinned items on the list would be nice, but honestly Bethesda has a lot of work to do on the UI as a whole. I'm hoping they overhaul/replace it like they did with local maps.

@@kineer Or just move ammo to Weapons Workbench which is where it belongs IMHO. BTW--you are one of the best Starfield channels.

@@ferkle Thank you!

I think this where we (gamers supporting gamers) are supposed to put on our PSA hats and says things like, "It's important to have balance and maintain outside relationships", but I'd be bending the truth if I didn't admit the same. For a non-live-service game without the seasons and expiring content, I still find it a compelling play. When they do updates, it's just fun to see what's new. In the meantime, tell yourself there's [fake] grass and creatures to shoot on distant planets. That's sort of like going outside. ;)

Lol. Good morning! Yeah, I lift, play and write black/death metal, work a 9 to 5. The normal thing. Finished my PhD two years ago and am a disabled vet. I'm pretty much in the mindset: I lived enough in the real world looong enough. Time to create my own. BUT....Call of Duty MW3/Warzone etc. needs to get deleted from my P.C. ASAP. Activision has made that game so damn addicting I can go weeks without playing Starfield. This past Sunday, however, pretty much moved it away from my gaming rotation. Was not expecting the Starfield drop at the Microsoft Showcase. Fantastic!

I came back to it, and I'm absolutely in love

It varies by ammunition type. For some it will cost more to make it but that generally makes up for a supply problem, e.g. 40MM XPL. For other's it dramatically cheaper to make it, which makes it more economical to carry some of the "Mag-" weapons. They have 160 round magazine capacities which can run 5,000 credits per magazine to reload and they have rates of fire that are 300+. I can make 50 MI ARRAY at 15% of what it cost to buy. Once you advance far enough to be holding plenty of credits, ammunition cost isn't a terrible burden, but if you want 100+ rounds of 40MM XPL no amount of money in your account will force the game to offer you more. So it's a feature that will likely require people to play around with it to discover when it's helpful to them. This assumes the RP/survival twist isn't also meaningful. Different for characters starting out. Different for advanced characters that have access to all the weapons in the game.

Possible (likely?) they will also be loot items at POIs.

My current view is that only some ammo is worth making. 40MM XPL comes to mind because it's limited in supply at vendors. The "MI ARRAY" ammo is 15% of the retail price so if you like the "Mag-" guns with huge magazines and hilarious fire rates, then those are easier to justify. Some ammo is plentiful while exploring POIs. Some is easy to buy in good quantities. In the end, the value of making ammunition will vary by player and play style. I haven't really looked, but maybe someone will find a way to farm XP with it, but I suspect not since they throttle the core resources.

The only mod I run is StarUI. Well it's three mods: Inventory, Outpost or Workbench. Same guy that did UI mods for Fallout. I'm a little surprised they aren't in the store as they don't require a script extender, but perhaps the author is focused on his Fallout versions given the recent attention to that IP. It also seems possible Bethesda will improve the native UI over time so maybe he's holding off putting more effort into them.

This is now a base feature of the game available to all players. Mods, especially prior to June 9th were exclusively a PC option. For that reason and others, I'm always on the hunt for tips and ideas that [should] apply universally. Generally it's a great idea to support mod makers either financially or even just by downloading and offering feedback that could improve them. I also suspect there's an ongoing process at Bethesda that looks at mods and decides if specific elements should be part of the base game (or they are happy having them 'handled' as one-off cases through the Creator community).

It's a step in the right direction. I believe there's a Creation out there that lets people do what you're describing. I'm still testing community creations so please don't consider that a recommendation or endorsement. There's some truly oddball stuff happening with some mods too. ;)

It's not that we need a potato-gun (or junk gun), but we deserve one! I wouldn't even be bothered if it did pitiful damage.

I'd prefer to think of it as a step in the right direction.

@@kineer You're right. Let's hope they improve upon further with later patches.

Because there's never enough? :) Yeah, it's helpful for new characters and if you are trying to scrounge up something like 40MM XPL.

It's StarUI (Inventory, Workshop and Outpost). Still hoping they will make it into the Creations, but also wondering if Bethesda might not re-tool the UI itself to something more like it in the future. The author has a large set of FO4 mods so there's a nice history there. Hard to stay where it will go, but in my most optimistic hopes, Bethesda found a way to hand them a stack of cash and bring them into the process.

Terrible to hear.

I heard it’s the pistol mod that created the sound glitch. Completely delete that mod & restart

Yo, thank you for that, I will try that out when I get home. Shame to hear though cuz those pistols look awesome!

StarUI Inventory, Workshop, and later Outpost. I'm still hoping they make it into Creations but haven't seen them yet (and didn't contact the author). So unfortunately, they are currently PC only. They don't materially (pun intended) impact the game, but the offer the spreadsheet style I like and let me sort.

Thanks. I'm adding more original game videos and was just about to start a new play through when this update happened. I've been distracted by shiny objects (for now) :) Thanks for watching!

since you probably on PC the Xbox community of your subscribers would appreciate it if you got an Xbox series X and played, tested your reviews on both platforms. Yes I know it’s double the work but also double the rewards. Just think of all the possible new subscribers and likes from the Xbox players (fyi: in case you didn’t realize are a much greater in number than the PC players) who immediately stop watching the video and tune out when the review is for PC only! Just a thoughtful wishful suggestion….

@@kineer You can stack one buff per category. So for example, Lab coat, Neurajack and Research Methods 4 all stack. But two chems, like Synapse Alpha and Neurajack do NOT stack. You can only get one buff for all chems

ngl, it would be terrible to have more excuses to play more characters in Starfield. Oh no, not that! ;) Also watching the Xbox Showcase triggered a few moments where I wanted to get an Xbox. I have an older Xbox but transitioned to PC as the 'little Kineers' got older. That said, I enjoy (?) the same challenges many do on the economic side. I'm just starting to see a few 'real world credits' flow back from the efforts here and likely need to get a giant hard drive to store all the video I capture. Xbox is on my list though. Funny, I might have finally seen why creators open up donations. I try not to rush into things like that, but it could be necessary for things that would help me make content useful for more people. I would do more Xbox content if I had the option. Otherwise (believe it or not), I spend a lot of time thinking about Xbox players. It continues to be my goal that the guides and let’s plays be applicable to everyone on a supported platform. I remember watching a specific BG3 streamer, noting he had far more companions in his party than the game normally supported and (even though I’m on PC). I wasn’t going to mod in that way and change the core game. I just tuned out. I deliberately avoid subjects I believe are PC specific even ignoring subjects like console commands AND Xbox specific glitches that can be useful to some. I think the only counter-example of something PC specific are the StarUI mods. They don't require a script extender and I still hold out some hope they will find their way into Creations. I rely on them to make my play easier. From my analysis videos you can probably guess that spreadsheets are important to me. "I think in spreadsheets" at times. I do not use mods that add companions, change capacities, etc. I think they change the core game and shift away from what Xbox players have available. Thanks for the comment. We'll see where this goes. Maybe I can work an Xbox into my future.

Several have reported it and mentioned a specific gun related Creation. I also saw this mentioned in the Bethesda Discord.

@@kineer ahh i think i know the one then

In my games, ammo is a problem that shrinks over time. Once you have stacks of credits, mainstream ammo is easy enough to buy. The 40MM XPL is still hit or miss. In my fast-path NG+ play through I buy that opportunistically for the fight at Masada (just because boom = fun?). It should be easier to buy the elements to build that ammo. Minor trade-off, but I won't complain about it. For other ammo, won't make much different. Without really trying, I end up with absurd amounts of 7.77 by the end. :/

Where can you buy 100 rounds of 40MM XPL from a single vendor?

Tell me where I can buy 100 rounds of 40MM XPL.

Totally agree, especially as the crafting method seems expensive and long winded. It should have at least been ammo with special properties, as per F04. Missed opportunity.

Oddly enough, this is one of my more popular videos lately (in terms of views, comments, etc.). Rather than attribute that to my dubious talents and skills, I see that as a sign of what the KZfaq algorithm is doing with searches. In short, people apparently want to know more about it. I'll know more as the analytics get updated. Given that it was a small note on the patch notes page and not highlighted in the Showcase, it's interesting to me. I will also suggest that as I've looked a little deeper, the economics of specific ammunition types vary based on scarcity in the game (and maybe other factors), e.g. shoot me a note when you find that vendor selling 100+ 40MM XPL at a time. Making it yourself costs more than the retail price per round, but it's a trade off I'm happy to make if/when I'd like a few extra rounds on hand. I think 50 MI ARRAY was about 15% manufacture costs vs. retail price. Not sure why, but there's something going on behind the scenes and the Bethesda has structured this with some [minor] purpose. In the meantime, for developing characters it's a very nice option to scrounging ammo in remote POIs, carrying extra weapons just because you have that ammo for it. Over time, ammunition is a fading issue. Once we have stacks of credits or cargo holds full of loot to sell, the ammunition stacks up fast.

@@kineer Valid points but still seems like a missed opportunity. Was this requested by players? I personally think weapon scrapping/modding would have been a much better addition. BTW good video 🙂

I would love to scrap items. Would be HUGE.