and best of all the shields held the cannonball hit to boot🤣

The city is also several million years old...

Thomas Degman and they did have millions of years of developing their tech and designs..

They don't build them like they used to!

Also didn't have contractors that tried to take every short cut they could while building it.

More like engineers

that we know of. could have been much more not yet discovered there.

And the Wraith cruiser buried in the ocean.

A lot of it might have been destroyed by the Wraith when they attacked Atlantis

Too soon

Castle Coatl :(

Was just about to comment the same...ish. I probably would've gone with "I'm a leaf on the w...hoops!" though.

Don't worry, it'll "Wash" out ...

Curse your sudden but inevitable meme-ing.

nice kissing!!!!!🤣

Dude, that happens every other week.

Fun fact the guy that plays Shepard actually wanted to buy the rights and do more seasons and everything was set in motion until new management took over MGM and they didn't care about they're older properties anymore but they didn't want other people to have them.

@@WilliamAmbervein Ahh Greed... The same thing that killed every other major scifi franchise out there.

They very clearly didn't spend any money on Origins.

More like one more episode, definitely not a season.

@@DangerousDac it was a fan made movie

"For a brick, he flew pretty good." -Sergeant Johnson

By comparison Carson's was better.

Actually, I don't think this is realistic. They weren't in orbit, they just arrived. There is no reason they couldn't just drop straight down. You have full maneuverability in space. Just pull up over your spot, come to a relative stop in the upper atmosphere, and cut the engine. Well, you'd want some counter-thrust before splashdown. The space jump scene in the star trek movie was realistic as hell. As opposed to everything we put in orbit, which we skim along the surface of the atmosphere at 17,000 miles per hour. That of course, needs to slow down a lot, to get to the hundreds of miles per hour range of the lower atmosphere, and somewhat slower at the end if it is a splashdown.

Geoff Graham If energy isn't an issue than you may have a point but they specifically mention draining a lot of power getting there. Maintaining a shield and aerobraking is one thing, maintaining a steady velocity slow enough to not strain the shield anyways is another. It might actually cost them less energy in the long run to get to a near orbit velocity before entering just to allow them to sink most of that potential energy into the atmosphere over a larger time frame. You can't even take advantage of a suicide burn since slamming into the atmosphere is just as bad as hitting the surface at those speeds. Jump scenes are only realistically effective if you don't plan to stick around long enough to fall to the planet, or if you assume they jump to a point where their velocity relative to the body puts them in a circular orbit. In the later case, Atlantis was in orbit anyways when it jumped to that position.

​@@Blackholefourspam Well, we are never really told what the velocity is coming out of hyperspace. In theory, it should be zero, but they make a window and drive into it, so you expect that exit velocity. Which may well be 17,000 miles per hour or faster. That's kinda poky when you're driving around solar systems. Probably closer to a million miles an hour cruising speed is what you'd want. Also, did they catch the planet in spring or fall, coming or going? The Earth is going about 67,000 miles an hour around the sun. If you catch it coming at you, and have 100,000 relative miles an hour to shave off, then I think you might cause global warming shaving all that off using the atmosphere. The show isn't that complicated I guess. It still seems a lot cheaper to just maneuver to your spot and drop, since you have to have the ability to maneuver pretty fast anyway, rather than use the shields to dissipate all that energy.

Geoff Graham I hate to do this, but you are making several assumptions here, we are never told the size of the planet Atlantis is landing on in this clip. It could be larger or smaller at which point the orbital velocity changes drastically. The second assumption is hyperspace velocity, it’s actually addressed in a brief statement in SG-1, in that most ships use their Sublight engines to slow down after exiting hyperspace, now Atlantis trying to save power might have skipped that step and in the prior episode it’s stated that Atlantis is hurtling through space at several thousand miles per second, since hyperspace conserves momentum when you exit it like a wormhole, that basically means Atlantis exited the window at or near Orbital velocity above the new planet. Hoped that cleared a few things up.

the only one :P

@@Akrablak1 not the only city ship though. shame they never really did an episode showing at least some attempt to salvage Atlantis's sister ship from that other planet in Pegasus. definitely would take work....but with much of it still intact....you'd think they'd go back at least for that. if the wraith were to return to that planet.... they wouldn't need to care about Atlantis anymore....they'd salvage what they need from that one instead.

@@martinw4330 I never thought of that. :O

@@martinw4330 That city was destroyed.

@@RenegadeShepTheSpacer no it isnt. It's falling apart and pretty much dilapidated, but there is still enough to savage and/or repair. Also it is out of power as the ZPM was drained by McKay.

With a massive tidalwave

@@reecemilan7763 Gotta get rid of that snake somehow.

Shepperd flying the city like an f16🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That's survivalist talk, for pilots it's any landing you can fly away from

I don't think so. The city was only operating with just one ZPM instead of 3 so he probably only had a 1/3 of the power to feed into the sublight engines. Also going faster against the Atmosphere would create more heat, radiation and friction which would put more strain on the shields. If anything that would have created even more power drain. You also have to consider that Atlantis' main power conduits were damaged and leaking tons of power even with the patchhold they came up with. So Atlantis probably wasn't even using 1/3 of the power (one zpm) because a lot of the energy was being leaked.

it's a heavy leaf!

any landing you can walk away from...

My thought exactly you try landing an entire city 1st time with 1/3 the power. Designed for and see how YOU DO!??... MacCay ever the cry baby. Unless he does it it was screwed up in some . If he did it was a heroic save demonstrating almost super human skill and talent. The statues should be something majestic but dignified maybe a little taller and lose a few lbs...

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nice kissing!!!!!

Mo Uddin Who’s going to care about the planet now that Atlantis is gone?

zorosedesala How did the whales survive when Atlantis was submerged for thousands of years?

crypto1223 Atlantis was underwater for 10k years and the flare is 15k which is why they survived

they'll rise up from the oceans and develop their own shields by then

With a bit of luck the flare will not be directed towards Lantea each time.

That part.

Zero Plot Module

350TW and chances are it was badly overloaded during the flight

You might be onto something with that.

Too creative and original for modern studios to comprehend, and there's also the pertinent detail that they'd just grab name-brand recognition to tap into that nostalgia market, bring back the old actors, because Lord knows that's worked out so well for Star Trek and Star Wars now...

How one race screwed up the entire galaxy, went on to screw another one, tried to escape to another one, nearly exterminated themselves in the process and rather found a way to escape from physical plane of existence to avoid the consequences, leaving behind all their problems for others to solve. That would be a great show indeed!

JustPerson that would not cause tsunamis.

A city landing on the ocean? You bet it would!

At least the venomous snakes would finally be gone.

JustPerson lol. The water did rise

@j p wrong the city Landing like that would cause tsunamis

WarGrowlmon18 wait what, there a continuation book series!!!

You didn't know that??? Its the show's official continuation and is INCREDIBLE!!! The first 6 books (there's 8) focus on the war with the Wraith and their new leader, Queen Death. Gives more background for several characters, including the Wraith. Has canon Sheppard/Teyla eventually and heavy hints of canon Sam/Jack. The last two books focus on them dealing with the Pegasus Asgard and the return of Doctor Elizabeth Weir. She appears sporadically through the first six books and plays a big role in her own way in the final battle with the Wraith. Aiden Ford also returns in book 8 and we finally learn what happened to him after The Hive. INCREDIBLE series!!!

PS: they also give an origin story for the Wraith. Its both shocking and in hindsight not so much.

"Queen Death" Nope, nope nope nope nope nope.

Huh???

Twice actually. Briefly when the Replicators occupied the city, but two of those were sent back two Earth. One for the Antarctic outpost, one for the Odyssey. The second time was in the last episode, when Todd gave them a couple ZPMs he stole from the Replicators so they took the city back to Earth to fight the ZPM powered Super Hive.

Thanks! I have SG1 & Atlantis on my shelf, but haven't had the time for a rewatch.

Giving the Odyssey a ZPM was really dumb. Like yeah, it gave it the ability to cloak but Atlantis could have used a second ZPM to leave the planet without having to go to the trouble of blocking the Replicator beam.

The Cypher well it also gave them one of the most powerful shields and it is much more mobile while having it in Atlantis would mean that it is only useful if somebody attacks Atlantis

Chris Evans and technically they did have 3 in the episode where they show the "first" arrival and travel back in time to the first siege of Atlantis

Pretty much the dinosaurs episode of Rick and Morty.

If they exist we are not ready everything you mentioned would get worse overnight.

"Gate away from..."

you can always go around, when things don't look right coming down. don't wait until your sideways and maybe sliding on the ground

I think it's a mix of 'we actually did it?' And mental drain/disorientation, it's a lot bigger than a PJ!

He finally got time to process everything and losing Dr Weir

*Spike*

@@The_Daily_Tomato Well yes right up till that moment

@@The_Daily_Tomato Yeah. it really wasn't a "I stuck the landing" moment when the landing sticks you.

Just think the strain on the shield

I was just going to post something similar, the only reason we aero-brake space craft here on earth is to save fuel, given that Atlantis doesn't have the same restrictions there is no need to come in fast enough to generate any heat at all, they could come to a full stop relative to the surface and just descend slowly.

@@popuptoaster They are very concerning with energy consumption, also for what we know Atlantis might be using some kind of fuel on the sublight engines.

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 They had to shut the shield down to get enough thrust to lift off, the atmospheric engines must be powered from the ZPM same as the rest of the city.

@@popuptoaster the laser was making too much pressure on the city shields and was draining power from the sublight engines, that's why they did the meteorite thing and had to lower them so they stopped draining power.

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 I think you are a bit confused, the ancients could definitely use ZPMs to power sublight engines, they did it on the Tria and I'm fairly certain the city ships used ZPMs to power everything.

Sometimes you are the leaf. Sometimes you are tree. Sometimes you are just frustrated you lost the women you kissed once while being posessed.

You can just assume that 'another person' on Atlantis checked as they left hyperspace. You will also note that we don't see them use toilets. Just fill in the blanks with a reasonable solution.

And to add the planet was in the database so you can assume they knew it was not a toxic atmosphere.

your comparing landing city sized ship to the tiny falcon rocket LOL

@@rory-red Sure. With Ancient tech, that’s probably about how hard it was with a fully operational city. They nailed it with far less than that

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia_damper

An inertia damper is a device that counters or damps the effects of inertia and other forces and motion. The damper does not negate the forces but either absorbs or redirects them by other means.

Yep as they have the episode where they found the warship on that lava power ancient station when it erupted it had full Shield and inertial dampeners it was thrown right up into the air but it only had enough power for about 2 seconds to sub stain Shields and inertial dampeners and enough power to open a hyperspace window Everyone was fine

Michael Dobrey because the entire database is in the Ancient language, very few people in the Stargate franchise actually read/speak Ancient. Two people I know for a fact can read ancient are Dr. Jackson (SG-1 and not assigned to the Atlantis expedition) and Dr. Wier. (Head of Atlantis Expedition and spent a large part of her time focusing on the expedition itself, only looking in the database when she had an open moment or when a task needed it, which was rare)

@@aresthecrazy9335 Yet amazingly enough, somehow there was an interface room where the Atlantean city computer (who we all later learned was in fact an ascended Ancient Atlantean herself) was able to converse with the new explorers in english from the get-go. Funny how that worked. The explorers could have easily asked the city's mainframe for instructions on how to construct endless, fully powered ZPM's from that interface (whom could of provided the answers they sought before she was found out to be an ascended being from Atlantis itself).

@@steadholderharrington9035 I think the excuse that they gave for these kinds of questions is that the database isn't well-organized and user-friendly (unlike for example the Asgard core), so unless they know exactly what to look for, they can't really search the database for things. And keep in mind, "ZPM" is just a name the Tau'ri made up. We actually have no idea what the Ancients called them.

@@IBeforeAExceptAfterK And yet they had (for a while at least) that Ascended Ancient posing as the holographic interface for a season or two that seemed to be very conversant in modern day English language and terminology. They could have asked "her" I believe.

@@steadholderharrington9035 For one, I'm pretty sure she was only there for the one episode, and it actually was a hologram the rest of the time. For another, I doubt she would've helped them anyway. It's probably against their rules.

They used some machine to convert some ancient power plant massive energy to hyperspace pocket. So it’s like massive battery. ZPM is just a key to connect to that hyperspace pocket and get that reserved energy back. That’s why just synthesizing another ZPM would not work.

Because otherwise it is hard for us to see it working. When it spins, we can say, "It's working!.."

I think it something like helps you to concentrate 3D. Since when in control chair you are virtually away from your body and in Atlantis or drone body to drive it and see around you like you would be in your own body, feeling your surroundings.

steeltimberwolf go ahead and try and land a CITY on a planet for the first time with only 1/3 the total power stores you should have and not land the way he did. Given the situation, Sheppard did one heck of a good job landing Atlantis. It also was why they chose to land in the ocean instead of on the mainland, in case they came down hard they didn’t want to basically nuke the mainland with their impact.

It is also a bit different landing a plane I'd wager.

No and it’s Nox.

Troy Bailey Atlantis doesn’t have transporters and it doesn’t work that way, the plasma from re-entry comes from the friction of air molecules being unable to get out of the way of the massive craft flying through it. (This instance being the city shield itself) it is a byproduct of atmospheric entry and unless you enter the atmosphere at subsonic speeds (impossible when slowing down from orbital speeds because then you make it worse by falling pretty much straight down and accelerate up to supersonic speeds again anyway) I hope I was able to clear things up for you there.

Not a mistake, it was on purpose as that is how Atlantis floats, otherwise the entirety of the city would be above water. The moment the shield was disabled, it would have dropped if it did not let in water up to the top of the piers.

Both good points. I'd going to look odd whichever way they do it.

Actually the bottom of the shield forms just below to top of the piers, you can see this when they submerge the city. So yeah the water popping into the shield was a mistake, as the shield forms just above the water in the first place so they wouldn't need to let any in for buoyancy.

@@Xershade not a mistake

The fact they were flying in space at all was an extraordinary measure, really. Usually, the "ship" stays dormant on a body of water's surface.

Well if they want to land without exploding the do have power in some kind. Space Shuttles cannot be slowed down by friction alone. Also too much friction could damage the hull. Actually they come in as Gently as possible to not risk hull breach in the re-entry and slow down when their back on earth. Since their built like an airplane they can brake with their wings by pointing up the ships nose. And on landing they use parachutes to brake. Reusable rockets either use parachutes too and get fished out of the water or catched by ships / helicopter with a net or use their thrusters to brake and land on a platform on the ocean like SpaceX Rockets.

@@CaptainChrom Atlantis isnt a spaceshuttle though.

@@Bartimayus the same rules apply for it tho. Come in as gently as possible to reduce zpm consumption from the Shields and reduce the probability of a hill breach.

He is the only one who says it correctly.

French: zed Japanese: ゼッド Spanish: zeta Proper English: zed

It's actually Americans who say 'Z' wrong, the rest of the English world says it the way Rodney does.