"Being in control" and "being a bully" are two very different things. Starmer kept to the rules, Sunak didn't... and that's without the lies...

It's as if Sunak didn't realise that the civil service won't be party to a blatant deception. Starmer needs only to describe things accurately to win.

Sunak made a COMPLETE fool of himself. The tetchy titch. VOTE THEM ALL OUT. Starmer let his prey dig its own hole. He let him repeat his despicable lie again and again and again and now Sunak can’t deny he lied. Starmer understands laying a trap. Bravo!

The rich and entitled are pulling there hair out over the tories losing and every day i wake up with a smile on my face knowing the tories are closer and closer to wipeout good riddance

I wish Krishanan hosted that PM debate instead of the ITV presenter.

Conservatives raise taxes. Heard on Ch4.

You know you've lost the argument when all you can do is shout over the other in a debate... I'd love to see the talk time stats

Shame on all Tory voters for what you did to our country.

I mean, Sunak categorically did lie. We have the numbers. 7.5 million is not less than 7.2 million.

Sunak is the moral extension of Boris Johnson and the economic extension of liz the lettuce.

Correct sunak is a blatant liar,cannot stand the slimy tory get.

An unelected failure seeks the impossible. Bye-bye to all the Conservative and Unionist National Treasures.

Another Tory PM who lies? So much for Sunak restoring integrity. 😂

Gove on coke again, there

Boris taught him well, if your backed into a corner, LIE, LIE and LIE again.

The short clip here of the “debate”, reminds me of the first 5 minutes of the “debate” last night, with Sunak out of control shouting incessantly, like a prep school bully , not a Prime Minister. After 14 years of Tory fiscal incompetence, I just have to log into my pension pots to see how a lifetimes hard work and thrift have gone down the drain. That’s before we look at the Tory record of thousands upon thousands of unnecessary deaths before their time. The list is endless. Before that we had Sunak hedging against this country triggering the banking crisis of 2008, which is how he made his millions. Bring on July 4th before we have a civil war.

We are now going to understand Starmers style. Allows the opposition to dig a hole and he will drop them in it big time. 👏👏👏

Chris Philp... "Rishi Sunak, he's into detail, he's into his spreadsheets.." Rishi Sunak: (paraphrase) NHS Waiting Lists have come down Keir Starmer: (paraphrase) No they haven't, they've gone up...

tax the super reach land lords the KING!!!

Tory politician shamelessly lies in public on TV during election campaign shocker. How could Starmer have possibly anticipated such a development?

I don't like being lied to. It's not a disputed number. It's completely made up. I think people need to mention that to their peers.

Murphy has always been good at holding politicians to the point. A shame Jon Snow isn't still around on Channel 4. The two were so good at working off each other.

Is there any chance we can get Victoria Derbyshire to moderate these events. Because she's so much better than the dross we have on the TV now. 🤔.

Summary the £2000 is over 4 years and the data is incorrect in the first place.. also, it does not take into account that tax is not paid equally by all people in the UK, especially billionaires. That's just the facts..

Conservatives made tax rises. This hurt the poorest in are society. Rishi needs to go

Vote the corrupt tories out - enough is enough

I like the way Kia let sunak dig his own hole. Keep talking over me. Keep repeating the same lie. I can just see him thinking. We'll see how that looks tomorrow This is how he's handling the new dark incarnation of the Tories. Let the public see their true colours and we'll see if we can fix everything after they're out of power. I hope the conservatives do s sort themselves out and get back to the centre ground. A healthy country needs centre ground, labour and centre ground conservatives, working together to take us all forwards. The last 15 years with the farage in the mix has really ruined all of our lives quite dramatically. We are the only people that can't move around. We've imprisoned ourselves.

Sick of greed it's the tories that are in the wrong

Why did the host keep shutting Starmer down when he tried to respond to the tax falsehood?

Didn't see the debate. Ridiculous format. We need better debate than this!!

Sunak has liared it's been proved

Love the way Krishna holds politicians to account!

So it’s honest when they claim Labour are raising taxes by £2k but dishonest and in-accurate when, using the same hypothesis, it’s £3k under the tories?!

Here’s the difference: Sunak has to do absolutely _anything_ to win this Election. Starmer need do precisely _nothing!_

Sick of Tory lies and law breaking! Vote them out.

Sunak showed how much he is like Boris. The Tory Party is truly a lost cause.

Let's face it britian are fed up with the Tory lies we need a government that tells the truth and lives in reality labour 😎👍

asking the Brits opinion their answer is "Rishi lies but is so much better becuase he is confident with it"

Sunak is always a big lier. Remove him from the pm seat

Swede here. “Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” is a crazy way to start an interview😂 I know that these tories are vampires so I’m glad you’re treating them as such on national tv.

Be very careful whenever a politician uses the expression ' to be clear', or similar, as it's almost always code for the next sentences will be complete twaddle.

RE : "Sunak is detail orientated" he looks at the spreadsheets and then sits down with his team and works out how they can make really bad things. Sound good?. And if they fail. just lie.. then repeat. "It's not a lie " over and over when people cross-examine you on the detail.

Looking forward to Sunak's bye-election

Rishi is showing hes the first rude asian prime minister. Im a Pakistani and im ashame of our first prime minister. The man bullied liz truss last debate and im not w fan of liz. Rishi sounded like rude school boy bully. I wondered if rishi is like that at home

Tory's out Now!

Another day at work for Sunak and the Tories...

Since 2019 taxes has risen for the average family £13,000 under the tories this should be all over the news

Anyone knows where can i see the full debate please ?

That is so funny...the Tories can get a tax figure for Labour but can't for themselves 😂 Well done Krish

It's my experience that Rishi Sunak is a liar and cannot be trusted about, "Government integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level", 25/10/22 outside number 10.

Bim Afolami really is becoming the new poster boy for Tory dishonesty.

Why did Labour have no answer to the 2000 tax hike on pensioners

If a Tory is breathing, they are lying. 😂😂

You can tell he grew up and is still in a privileged position, the entitlement, the way he just shouts out at them and been disrespectful to the host🤷🏽‍♀️

Sunak is a disgrace. Openly lying. So sick of this punch Judy bs. We’re not America, ffs.

Can we have green bins included in our £2000 council tax bill please??😂🤦🏻‍♂️

2000£ tax up but all our bills going up ! Now who are we going to believe 🤔

WHAT ? Labour has "lots of plans" even though Sunak always says they don´t have a plan ? Makes no sense what so ever.

Sunak is an absolute embarrassment.

Thing is, if I pay a lot of taxes but I cam see those taxes going into something useful, I don't mind paying them. Since a few years my taxes are going up and the country, my city council is putting numbers of services down.

" do you promise to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth." Brutal krish, absolutely brutal ! 😆

Sunak's attitude makes my skin creep. He's such a childish PM that he's embarrassing.

Can the Conservative party tell the UK citizens how much they borrowed so far. Can the Conservative party tell the UK citizens how much debt they are leaving behind for any new administration to inherit. I am concerned about the poor state of the NHS and poor quality of services that they provide. Crime is up and immigration is up under the Conservative government. The NHS waiting list for treatment under the Conservative government is very long and unpresidented. It takes at least three weeks to have a GP's appointment. The Labour Party leader is a gentleman but Mr Sunak is a rottweiler and should be ashamed of poor NHS services under his watch. Mr Sunak should tell the British people how much him and his wife made or procurement of contracts during the Covid-19 through their private companies. Mr Sunak should show a list of what he's done since he became the UK prime minister. The Conservative Party tells lies to stay in office. Does anybody remember lies told about BREXIT?

It wasn't a debate. It was just a lie and slogan shouting gameshow.

Bad Tempered Bully .

every time rishi talks, he lies about something.

integrity, professionalism and accountability. same lying policy, only difference clown.

It's pathetic watching The Tories always trying to defend their lies !

If the Labour Party is seeking a budget for their programs, I have an excellent source to suggest: double the taxes applied to insurance companies and ensure that they do not increase their prices. The area with the highest unjust gains in this country is insurance companies. The taxes on the profits of insurance companies, which are five times more expensive than those in European countries, should be increased. There is an unfair insurance law. Internet companies, without making investments or improving service quality, collect large sums of money from the public. Transportation companies do the same. The taxes collected from these areas would be enough to bring all projects to life. The price increases in this country have never been proportional to inflation. The public has been consciously exploited and robbed, and the entities stealing this money from the public have been the companies. No product in the market has been proportional to inflation, nor have rents. The main reason for the housing problem is that housing investments and constructions have not kept pace with the growing population. Migration to rural areas should be encouraged, and infrastructure investments should be made in these areas. This beautiful country needs to be uplifted as a whole. Please discuss these suggestions and strive for even better solutions. For this country and its youth.

This is such an astonishing pile of nonsense. The misrepresentation of the information in these documents is disgusting. This propaganda is absolutely disgraceful.

Channel 4 News and Gary - you said Nigel Farage was self-appointed, but actually, as Richard Tice has stated, that for a number of weeks, they were trying to persuade Nigel to come back to be the leader of the Reform Party; so Gary, Nigel Farage was hardly self-appointed.

Two things should happen at the next debate. Starmer should ask Sunak to sue him for deformation of character. If he refuses this demand Starmer should insist Sunak repeats the £2k allegation (word for word and waiving his right of correction) at the first session of the new Parliament to open himself up to a misleading Parliament charge.

Bim: Labour have lots of legitimate plans????? hmmmm, PM they have no plan????? hmmmmm .....contradictoins and lies....get this shower out!

Why a tax on pensioners by Labour???

Sunak digging his hole even further

Why only involve those two clowns in a debate? Include every party leader. Choices must not be narrowed down to just two parties

The question to the tory Economic Secretary to the Treasury "by how much by you plans are going to mean the tax burden goes up by?" that he did of course not want to give a straight answer to - if they've worked out by how much the tax burden will be raised from Labour's plans then surely they would have also worked that out for their own plans? With all the £Billions of taxes that the tories have "lost" from the PPE procurement scandal, Track & Trace etc that needs to be put back into the pot, their own number is most likely way higher. Simply more lying and childish mudslinging from the tories - but then we can't expect any better from them.

The two big problems for Labour going forward are the polls which indicate the scale of both the Labour gain and Tory loss, and the other is the 2K tax thing and the not having a plan thing. Given the political and economic/fiscal history of Labour that are still within living memory, Labour has always had to be tonally sensitive to public concern about Labour and the Public Finances. The problems for the Tories is their long stint in power since the Coalition with the Lib Dems PLUS the damage done to the country by both Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, not forgetting the damage done to the Tory Party itself by the antics of it's progressively aggressive right wing factions.

13:47 Bravo, kudos to you Krishnan👏👏👏

Never trust a tory

Kier starmer was rumbled in the debate. Il be voting reform

Squabbling already, while they do this the country struggles on. R

The simple fact about tax in this country is that Rishi Sunak and his ilk would rather avoid it than pay it. The latest tory non dom tax changes with loopholes will save the Sunaks £250 million in UK taxes when they leave.

You know what one thing I’ve not heard mentioned at all from either of them is the absolute awful and horrendous discrimination working class people are being subjected to going into universities around the country. This through general prejudice and organised effort through various media outlets. Why? Because the political establishment is full of the same dogmatic and quite frankly dangerous attitudes. Does Labour want to work on apprenticeships and other vocational education programmes to compete in a globalised economy? or are they simply going to aim this type of education at working class kids to keep them out of degree programmes? I tell you one thing: I know why there has been no mention of it and that is because their snide brand of politics is always implicitly exhibiting the same views right in front of our faces. What do they do? They literally appeal to these people that have studied classics and other subjects that bring a certain level of cultural capital and use it as a tool for discrimination - and you know what? I’m done with it!

If someone can’t defend a rumour or an idea? Then it’s probably going to become a reality.

Krishnan, politicians need to lie , otherwise everyone will start to think that politicians have no idea what they are doing. 😆

Audio?

Ed Davey had his hands on the levers of power for 5 years. Ask carers how well they were treated as a result of austerity

Great interview!! Putting him on the spot!! We need some fresh change. We need politicians work for ordinary people and not for the 0,01% rich.

Conservatives no good

I can't believe he just said it. "It's working families that pay the tax" not us.

No audio dude

NEVER EVER TRUST THE TORIES

Winston Churchill is turning in his grave 😅 And Indian man ruling England😂😂😂😂😂

04:14 … fired up is certainly one way of describing it…

Why didnt the presenter allow Ben to say how the 2000 pounds came from?

The ham versus the coconut! Who will win?

I wonder what the thousands of British people who died doring WW2 thinks if their country now, wanting to leave the ECHR which protect our rights that they fought for, seeing ex-service people with mental health problems sleeping on the streets and depending on charities, oh and the ogre braverman wanting to take their only shelter, a tent away as it makes the streets look untidy.

You always have to grill Labour on their spending plans. They will always make the public sector too big if you keep on electing them. Just like under Blair.

Embarrasing when your own treasury don't want anything to do with what you say.