Thanks! I think you're right on with those thoughts. I'm especially interested in testing used equipment. Many experts talk about cycles to failure and such but not about how to know when to retire stuff.

Thanks for those thoughts! My primary goal was to compare the ropes and to keep the variables you mentioned as consistent as possible for each drop. All of the ropes we tested were anchored at the top of the tree, and we only used the GRCS to lift the log. Probably the biggest error was when we had to move the knot up on the rock climbing rope because it stretched so far that the piece hit the ground.

Haha! Hopefully I didn't hurt it. I think it's rated to measure up to 4,500lb or something

Glad to hear it! It didn't cost too much in the end. Most of those were retired ropes that were ready to go for one reason or another.

Haha same! It's a problem, but it's better than spending money elsewhere 🤷‍♂️

Thanks man!

Aye, I try to stay away from using damaged rope for anything 😬😅. I would definitely agree that static rope in a 5:1 system would be the best. Really could even use some dyneema stuff if you wanted to go all the way 😅

Aw man, I hope I didn't take an opportunity from you! This honestly could have been done way better. If I were to do it again I would do a numer of things different to make the test more consistent and my fun to watch. Got ahead and take a stab at it. I'd love to see if you come up with similar results.

@@zaccheus you didnt take any opportunity away from me man! I love your videos always excited to watch! And i have a million ideas for testing between base anchors, canopy anchors, srt vs drt theres more than enough testing for all of us! Not to mention im still waiting on my scale so i have atleast a week regardless.

@Harold Ridgeway Haha, glad to hear it. Testing content doesn't seem to be super popular here on youtube, but it is interesting to see and I wish more people saw it and understood the value of it.

@@zaccheus I know it seems so many people are more interested in the action than the education. I love the action just as much as the next guy but theres plenty of that youtube, not nearly enough testing in my opinion.

@@HaroldRidgeway74 I can't agree more. You ought to check out the Nugreen store channel they do a lot of testing.

Never thought if that. Neither of the ropes really have good hand though. I'd imagine good knotability and ease of splicing are what make a good dock rope?

Also Dog Ropes 🐕;) Well , they should still work for more , just need to check the soul and mantle with eyes and fingers By the way - a wood is not a person , cause the harness and Body react dynamic as well ! Avoid to fallacy times take ropes in tension as much es possible Last week I let fall a 100 pound branch when I was hanging under a thick branch , it was my 4 m second safety rope , I had to use it cause it was exactly the way to the roof No big job for the Rope but the other was bound to the thicker broken branch and sometimes there is no other solution . It was best I could do trusting me and material

@@zaccheus If you want to send them to me in Missouri I'll pay the shipping if your just tossing them?

@@stuby2014 I appreciate the offer,l to put them to use, but I can't afford the liability

@@zaccheus I understand completely. You can also use them for guide lines.

Thanks!

I think August Hunicke has some videos on that already. I could probably do that with the right job. Theoretically that load cell can handle more than the SWL on a 3/4 double braid rope.

@@zaccheus yeah I’ve seen them August has a lot of good content but for those who haven’t binge watched his channel😂 to see it could see it on your channel. I enjoy watching you and the explanation you give ! The trial and error that you show is good cause we all make mistakes and learn . Stay safe out there!

@@ericchristison9680 haha alright! I'll keep an eye out for a good job to check rigging forces on. Thanks for commenting about it on this video!

Thanks!

Thanks!

I know right! Even just hanging on it with body weight felt really weird. It's definitely different stuff.

Thanks man. I think the load cell will be fine. I said that mostly as a joke. I think it's rated for 4,500lb on the read out and has a breaking strength of 36KN or something like that. Thats true, they should all take 5,000lb. 5,400lb is the MBS allowed for climbing systems. However, thats with no knots and no wear. There is also the matter of cycles to failure to consider. A 3000lb, load reduces the life of the rope substantially more than a 300lb load. I know some folks like static ropes for pulling, I sometimes like dynamic ropes because of their ability to store energy in the system, but it depends on the scenario. What I don't like is previously overloaded ropes that have a higher chance of failure. That's a risk I don't wanna take 😬

Haha thanks, I do like a full brim hat whenever a chin strap and such inst required

Haha, I wanted to, but I also didn't eat to break stuff. We weren't really set up to break stuff in a safe way

Well I won't retire the loadcell.. I don't think that would be sensible 😅 I used some old screw Gaye carabiners that I don't use for anything other than accessory type stuff and the one steel biner we used broke the spring component in the locking collar, so I threw that away. Aluminium will fail after a certain amount of fatigue. I don't know if that translates into cycles to failure or not.

Ooo, I'm sure they would make some high numbers. Do you mean break tests or shock absorption?

@@zaccheusshock absorbing. I use Notch, CMI and GM Climbing loop runners slings to rig down limbs in conjuction with carabiner and rigging ropes.

@Billster1955 I gotcha, I do that too occasionally. I think I use a CMI heavy duty sling of some kind. I don't think they would make too much of a difference primarily because they are so short. I dunno, if I get a chance and it makes a difference, maybe I'll make a video out if it.

We never measured, but we did keep it consistent by marking the drop point on the rope with tape. I have a other video where we did measure some falls into a rope. You can find it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZiflqh1nqfLkYE.html

Yeah, actually I did that in a video a couple weeks ago. It should be right around the 7 minute mark in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZiflqh1nqfLkYE.html

@@zaccheus you know..I thought so..right on..thanks

Thanks 😊

@@zaccheus 🤠👌👌🤙

I use a makita 36v, it works really good I think. We did a comparison with the Milwaukee drill if you want to check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grWgYMxyudXcYmg.html

Absolutely

Haha that thay would be the worst thing ever to ascend on. I threw that rope away after that test.

Absolutely not. I cut them up and threw them away 😅

I can't agree more. I might even go as far as saying it's the worst rope I've ever climbed on 😅

​@@zaccheus Try Yale Blue Tongue, it's the balls!

@@TheToolnut what do you like about it?

@@zaccheus It's a 11.7mm rope but hands like a 12mm rope. It has minimal stretch, runs well on a hitch and knots well. My Z.Z lives on it most of the time. I have 45m of Yale Imori as well but it's a little bit stretchy for my liking.

@@TheToolnut mmm sounds very interesting. I'll have to yake a look at it sometime