There is some dude that put 2 of those plates on. Makes it look insane

And a better sub frame for luggage

Frame is brilliant as is, aluminium frames take up alot of space and are too rigid in my opinion of course yours may differ

@@codenamenoob4973 agreed. Having a somewhat flexible frame is why the 650r can handle whoops with ease at pretty much any speed

I'd buy that . Wish Honda would come out with the new 650r

6 speed, electric start, street legal, inverted forks and I'll be happy. Don't care for fuel injection, can't fix it on the trail. It's also a lot more expensive if it needs work.

I agree

@@bermcannonk I don't know I really like my 450L

This guy beat me to it. 100% true.

I think they would have had a hard time making it pass updated emissions standards, otherwise I agree

@@jasonbarton7189 You're probably right. It would help if they fuel injected it. I just want Honda to produce another big bore thumper. Another high revving 450 for 12k isn't what the dual sport community needed.

Hey mike i love your stoke!!!! All those bikes in your garage you will be a happy man🤘🏻

Go on Craigslist and get Yourself one.

I have a 2007 xr650r too! Love it man, I'm a little biased for this review lol

Yes I don’t know why Honda doesn’t bring back the 650r and make it FI with a street legal option it would be a home run!

@@Motor-City_Ben-Dieselit’s the emission game that changed the course

Thanks Warren

Thanks for watching mr s 😎 enjoy your new bike👍

Tires should definitely be high on the list, the stocker IRC's absolutely blow off-road. I ended up with a Goldentyre 216AA 90/100 Fatty up front and a tried and true Dunlop D606 outback in the 120/90 flavor. They've completely transformed my confidence on the trails, no more fear of the front washing out from under me and the rear digs until it holds now. Congrats on the new 450L, you'll love it!

Thanks, I'll try it. I've notice the front fairings cause a lot of turbulence at freeway speed. I though about trimming them or heating them up and bending the front inward. What do you think?

@@yourfacelookslikebut Wind is wind is wind is wind. The fact that your body is an upright wind target much larger than any fairings, would lead me to believe that modifying the fairings would have little impact. You need those to duct air over the radiators especially at low speeds. So of it were me I wouldn’t modify them. I ride sport bikes too and fly planes. Lots of fairings. Sometimes your a sail and sometimes not.

Thanks Larry! Yes a 2021 CRF650R would be amazing. 🤙🏻

Exactly! Post of the years😎

Thanks troy for the recommendation. Welcome to my channel. 🤙🏻

Yup. A 2021 efi xr650r 🤘🏻

Trust me, Honda would love to give their customers what they want. It's the emissions laws that have killed the 650 singles, not the manufacturers.

If they did it would be extremely expensive .. :(

But well worth it!! 😢

Joe. Johnny Campbell started it all for me. In 2001 I watched Johnny Race a 650 at the Adelanto Grand Prix and you have to realize at this time it was all two strokes but the thunder of the 650 coming into the motocross section and watch Johnny jump the water jump and blowout berms and then hit 90 mph on the pavement section just blew my mind as a young motorcross’er

@@bermcannonk Thats awesome! As you probably know Scott Summers is another one that liked to beat up on the 2 strokers with his XR. Check out Fox MX Terrafirma 3 on you tube. Opening scene is Johnny riding that 600r with a chopper chasing Him through the dessert.. pure legendary!

I agree about feeling sorry for the manufacturers in this day and age, it's impossible to please everyone and it's getting even harder to please even a slight majority. Changing terrain and riding conditions due to location, rider abilities, rider demands and preferences, it's all too skewed for a manufacturer to encompass it all in one bike. All of that combined with the immediate gratification expectations of our modern "me first" society and it's no wonder that every review of any one bike seems to be all over the place. Personally I see this bike as a full on street legal Enduro bike that has much better on-road characteristics than its direct competitors and a slight nod of dual-sport function which the others lack in all respects. Think KTM/Husky 450's and 500/501, that's the company the 450L keeps and while it's slightly heavier (easily remedied with a few choice mods), it has a better chassis and suspension, a stronger sub-frame, full led lighting, a third piston ring, better service intervals, and the legendary Honda reliability and dealer/parts network to back it up. Shed a few pounds and buy under MSRP and this is a fantastic bike.

Jeff this is all true. Time will tell.

Dont need efi. Just fcr swap the carb.

How long do top ends on that 250R last?

@@v1kku Mine was checked at 20'000km and had very little wear. Will check again at 30 thousand.

That’s funny when you go to a dealership and try riding a bike that’s 20 years newer and ride home on a bike that you’re still content with 😂

Thank you sir 🙏🏼 for the support. Have you watched this one? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbpmdd2Jzqu2o30.html

Truth Kurt!!!

Thx sergios🙏🏼 this video was more of a honorable mention for both bikes.

Totally agree, I own one (EU), that seat is a nightmare! The steering lock isn't the safest on the planet, but it does have one :)

Good point. Cali continues to crumble everyday day.

And 6th gear

Sorry Maria, now I know😎 thanks for watching.

@@bermcannonk Hey thanks for the reply. Appreciate that. And I'm def enjoying your videos. Just subscribed. Thanks

Lol.. the word guys can be used to describe a group of people women included. The word man same thing. Mankind... ✌

The R is much better for sure!

I forgot to mention that and that’s a good point and another good point I forgot to mention in the video is the 650 is more stable because of its weight on the trail and that’s a big thing to me in a lot of cases it’ll save you when you hit a pothole or a rock it’ll stay on track rather with the 450 it’ll kick you off

Bermcannon : yer I've been there "the brown pants moments" you close your eyes for that impact 😖 only to open them a second later to find everything is good and the xr as just saved my life 😇 again, and just keeps on going motoring through anything in its way 😏 I love it .

Exactly and you know that is a quality that is forgotten i think when these bikes are designed. Light bikes aren’t always best.

650R is a open territory beast, with fuel injection, a rebound and compression rear shock, and new technology forks and maybe a key. It’d be dual sport nirvana. It’s a real slog through tight single track because it’s a big bruiser but fire roads beg to hear the thunder of the 650R. 😎

Tony Bjorklund this is gospel Tony!!!!🤙🏻

Mine are at 5mm the twitch isn’t bad but compared to the L there is a difference. Thanks for watching ✊🏼

I have faith that we see a Efi 650 one day🤔

Preach my brotha! #truth

ryan, I chose the 450L over the XR650 because I was afraid of overheating issues living in the desert. Had the XR been liquid cooled it might have been my choice. Though a radiator, jacket and coolant would have added more weight to an already heavy bike,

@@jasonbarton7189 you're getting the 650L mixed up with this 650R...

Alex you are correct

I think 🤔

Its a good bike. I like it alot. 😎

You think it's a bike that will hold up for 20 yrs? I've always been a fan of XR's. Finally took the top end off my 03 just because I wanted to put a 440 kit on it. My brother has an 84 that's as clean as you'll ever find one and still has never had the top end off. I just hope Honda doesn't shoot themselves in the foot by over complicating things.

Bob Brown your right let’s hope those valves don’t move

How reliable has it been? What's the maintenance like? Is it as good as a Drz400 ?

Trailtech

Dominator refers to johnny campbells championship run aboard this bike.

Good point mx tinter. But Real men kick bikes not because we want to but because we have to😂

Dont stall the bike an you'll be good

I have two 650R’s and the only time I can’t start my bikes is when I’m in water over the pegs. That doesn’t happen to often. 😅

No Sir. I used to be about running those but I haven’t in the last 5 to 7 years

They weigh pretty close to the same, actually.

@@Maccaroney I put my xr650r on a scale and is was 298 lbs wet with ~1 gallon of fuel.

@@yourfacelookslikebut yeah mine was ~310 with 4 gallons, dual sport kit, and a rear rack.

It kills me when people say the BRP is heavy. For a 650 it’s not even close to heavy.

Yes! I would buy 2 😂

I wish Kawasaki did this to the KLR650 - added EFI, dropped 50 lbs and added six speeds. That would’ve been the ultimate dual sport.

@@jasonbarton7189 lol the klr650 could afford to loose more than 50lbs, and it's needs better suspension, I hated my klr650..... But love my klx250s

Thanks sean for the compliment. I thought it was a nice touch.

No

Thx Richard this comparison was really just for fun 😎

@@bermcannonk Thanks for all you did... I really enjoyed. The scoring was spot on. I know taking the time to do a "Dirt Bike Magazine" shootout takes time. Your comparison was short and sweet!

Good luck doing that in the UK they cost a bomb her now for the xr

Lol. No kidding 😂 i agree Enzo!

I’ve never really understood the whole super moto thing.

@@jasonbarton7189 Try one and you understand ! I get the purist view of not converting to SM , but try a factory SM like a 701 . It's the ultimate city bike. Light ,nimble , narrow for filtering and a lot of fun

umm, you do realise its a 25min job to change sumo wheels to dirt wheels (and visa versa), right?????? and proper sumo includes dirt anyway... (just no mud) and if you can't understand the attraction of doing jumps, dirt/gravel, and peg crapping lean angles on the same bike withing a few minutes, then there is no hope for you! Supermoto its the rally cross of 2 wheels, 2 bikes is one...

Thanks jose👍

Hi :) I have a chnce to buy a xr650r. i want to ask you, about highway speed, i know the bike is capable, and not for highway riding, but still, how much is the vibration ? If i change the sprokets, could it be not so vibration ? :) thank you.

Here ya go www.google.com/amp/s/dirtbikemagazine.com/ultimate-dual-sport-xr650r-remake/

Bermcannon thanks!!

@@bermcannonk Hey man Thx for the amazing content I Just picked up my own 2002 XR650R and would like to do the exact same build as your, I'm in Palmdale CA area and would love to come down and get introduced to this tight knit XR family and maybe go on one of your rides. Feel free to contact me to see if we can make that happen! as always keep up the great work.

I agree. 😎👍

that totally threw me off haha

It was funny..

Who's worried how much gas it uses? The xr650r is a good investment especially if you can find an unabused one, I live in the UK I've got a minter I paid strong money for it but I looked long and hard. They are about but for a really good one you gotta move fast or it will be gone !!

I fixed the relay and everything it's the new tusk kit on Amazon

Sorry Tim no video on my head light 😎

@@bermcannonk Would love to see one if you ever feel the motivation to produce it. I cant be the only old codger out there who would like to still upgrade their XRR Headlamp. Might be a big hit for you...just saying.

Yes!

Where you located?

13 tooth front sprocket. I'd leave the exhaust stock.

Why? 😂