STAY ❌ or GO ✔️? Picking a FINAL England WC Squad | Saturday Social ft Thogden & Nicole Holliday

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Smithy and Joe are joined by Thogden & Nicole Holliday this week on Saturday Social. With the final international break before the World Cup underway, we asked our guests to predict the final England squad for Qatar 2022.
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@adamthomas8077
@adamthomas8077 Жыл бұрын
Thogden: Can't take Phillips because he's not playing. *Adds maguire to the board*
@richardellis4262
@richardellis4262 Жыл бұрын
who are we taking over maguire then? many players to take over phillips
@joshdias4966
@joshdias4966 Жыл бұрын
@@richardellis4262 Dier for form or coady for leadership 😂 both are an improvement on Maguire
@raypeet5777
@raypeet5777 Жыл бұрын
@@richardellis4262 Warwick Davis over MC Dire👌I would have put Lisandro Martinez, but unfortunately he's Argentinian.
@siyabongatshabalala8431
@siyabongatshabalala8431 Жыл бұрын
@@richardellis4262 white, Guehi, Tamori, Kilman
@dscho5626
@dscho5626 Жыл бұрын
😂 so dumb
@rmrm9191
@rmrm9191 Жыл бұрын
The tantrum Thogden was about to have if he didn't get his way 😂😂
@heroicDale
@heroicDale Жыл бұрын
Proper spoilt bastard
@jc3342
@jc3342 Жыл бұрын
I know 🤣 can't stand him. Sounds like a spoilt brat
@georgecobbold2234
@georgecobbold2234 Жыл бұрын
Would of been an interesting watch, if Thogden actually let Nicole get a word in
@josephbailey501
@josephbailey501 Жыл бұрын
She didn't shut up
@Sunsets-nr6lv
@Sunsets-nr6lv Жыл бұрын
She spoke way too much
@dylanhunt6764
@dylanhunt6764 Жыл бұрын
After she questioned about walker going I didn’t wanna hear anymore
@integrito3323
@integrito3323 Жыл бұрын
What! She said plenty, let me tell you!
@idt369
@idt369 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure this is just a one off but Thogden made that a proper hard watch.
@jeffjeff3872
@jeffjeff3872 Жыл бұрын
Nah he makes everything hard to watch
@jordanphillips8959
@jordanphillips8959 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not a one off
@archie0955
@archie0955 Жыл бұрын
mate not a one off imo no disrespect to him but dislike his content and his personality
@eleaevan6416
@eleaevan6416 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I can't stand his videos...he's like a spoilt brat
@gluestix17
@gluestix17 Жыл бұрын
I had so much respect for thogden until he said maguire should start for england, when he hasnt even won a game for Utd this season Nicole is spot on with how much hypocracy there is in his squad selection
@kevinconway2965
@kevinconway2965 Жыл бұрын
Really? SO MUCH RESPECT for him? Why exactly? Just because he has a youtube channel? He's just a lad who watches football, just like you and I. Why is his opinion respected anymore than other football fans?
@gluestix17
@gluestix17 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinconway2965 no because he put trippier as his backup LB lol it's not that deep
@Armed-Forever
@Armed-Forever Жыл бұрын
@@kevinconway2965 true, ppl forget that, most of these ppl on tv are just as dumb as the ppl at the job centre, only diff is they got a lucky break
@allensilson648
@allensilson648 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, Shaw is in the same situation as Maguire but he got dropped
@gluestix17
@gluestix17 Жыл бұрын
@@allensilson648 shaw is arguably in a better situation than maguire, he isnt acting delusional in the press and he hasnt been as terrible when he's played
@jallan1027
@jallan1027 Жыл бұрын
Thogden saying “5 games started this season” for Stones when there’s only been 7 played is so embarrassing
@Sam-rf6ev
@Sam-rf6ev Жыл бұрын
He’s missed every England game in the last day!
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
Acting like it's 5/38 when it's 5/7.
@TezKingboom
@TezKingboom Жыл бұрын
Thats 3 games too many? After all he added maguire 🤣 0% win rate is it not so far in games he started?
@justthetwoofus.
@justthetwoofus. Жыл бұрын
When Thogden said people are concerned about Maguire’s “recent” performances I audibly laughed. People been concerned about Maguire’s recent seasons.
@philtaylor5592
@philtaylor5592 Жыл бұрын
Thogden said do you think Brazil will be concerned when they see Dier starting CB.. then proceeds to put Maguire in and asked for a Harrison Reed pic 😂
@mrArod376
@mrArod376 Жыл бұрын
brazil would be giddy if they see maguire in the lineup
@Yeah.316
@Yeah.316 Жыл бұрын
Brazil after seeing Maguire in the starting lineup: Giggity Giggity Giggityyy
@sokola_id
@sokola_id Жыл бұрын
Brazil will be more concerned to southgate and say thank you
@Cyrus-rodn45
@Cyrus-rodn45 Жыл бұрын
Nicolle makes more sense than the dude who is creating the team
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын
She is the best female pundit/guest I’ve ever seen!
@benjamincorbett
@benjamincorbett Жыл бұрын
@@GIBBO4182 that’s an insult to women pundits, she knows absolutely nothing, there are much better women
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын
@@benjamincorbett sorry for having an opinion different to you…
@cherzo71
@cherzo71 Жыл бұрын
@@benjamincorbett she still knows more than Thogden
@benjamincorbett
@benjamincorbett Жыл бұрын
@@cherzo71 true
@DoFi12
@DoFi12 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of Thogden of letting Nicole speak?
@caihuws9382
@caihuws9382 Жыл бұрын
He’s so serious all the time as well😂
@PharmacyAve
@PharmacyAve Жыл бұрын
Like father like Son
@ThMindFdr
@ThMindFdr Жыл бұрын
@@caihuws9382 Because hes crippled with anxiety compared to the other three..You can see it hes on the edge non stop and forcing while others are not!
@mrwabbit9576
@mrwabbit9576 Жыл бұрын
She has no good takes.
@bence7432
@bence7432 Жыл бұрын
Nah she spoke too much imo
@paulpritchett
@paulpritchett Жыл бұрын
Thogden is Southgate's secret lovechild
@UstashaMe84
@UstashaMe84 Жыл бұрын
I think Thogden is on the FA’s payroll.
@thefutbolapex6307
@thefutbolapex6307 Жыл бұрын
Tammy scored 27 goals last year; leaving him out is wild
@asteri8638
@asteri8638 Жыл бұрын
In Serie A
@thefutbolapex6307
@thefutbolapex6307 Жыл бұрын
@@asteri8638 Serie A is a great league
@andyh323
@andyh323 Жыл бұрын
Mmm but he's only scored like 2 goals this season?
@erik7066
@erik7066 Жыл бұрын
They forgot the most important to stay at home: SOUTHGATE
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Poch. I think that would suit out team to a tee.
@joshkooga7204
@joshkooga7204 Жыл бұрын
😎
@ashrit1993
@ashrit1993 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@integrito3323
@integrito3323 Жыл бұрын
The whole squad can stay at home! They are winning NOTHING!
@PharmacyAve
@PharmacyAve Жыл бұрын
Thogden really chooses players by Popularity. Reminds of an excited child
@mrwabbit9576
@mrwabbit9576 Жыл бұрын
Nah, come on. He was the only one singing the praises of Reed and Toney. They other lot visibly cringed at the thought of having players who aren't at big clubs. Quite pathetic really. Reed at the moment is the best performing English CDM and Toney is levels above Abraham at the moment, performing better in a weaker team and showing a far more complete skillset.
@xcf5587
@xcf5587 Жыл бұрын
Maguire is literally the ‘least popular player’ out there…
@Anonymous-xr8hx
@Anonymous-xr8hx Жыл бұрын
@@mrwabbit9576 Toney isn't levels above Abraham. They bring different things and you could argue either way. It's not as cut and dry as you're making it seem.
@rosscleary9110
@rosscleary9110 Жыл бұрын
What a load of rubbish. Sancho, Maddison are popular. Maguire definitely isn't.
@ChazTB
@ChazTB Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-xr8hx they both should go and dont take maddison, i just can't see how maddison will play when mount and ward-prowse are ahead of him and only one of them will play at a time.
@Bulskee
@Bulskee Жыл бұрын
Thogdan when he sees Southgate…. “Did I do good Daddy?” 😃
@jacklane3679
@jacklane3679 Жыл бұрын
Eric Dier is a natural born leader, in the form of his life and clearly miles ahead of Harry Maguire in every conceivable way. Much better passing range, playing every week, dominant in the air, scoring goals. Maguires World Cup performances over 4 years ago are irrelevant.
@dmitrikemp2341
@dmitrikemp2341 Жыл бұрын
Lewis dunk is better than Eric dier he is in the best defence so far in the Premier League Lewis dunk has been the best English centre-back this season
@jacklane3679
@jacklane3679 Жыл бұрын
@@dmitrikemp2341 that might be true to be fair, I haven't watched a lot of Brighton to be honest, but see Dier every week. Both certainly have more right to a call up than Maguire on current form. Eric Dier at least also has the experience of playing and scoring at tournaments as well.
@dmitrikemp2341
@dmitrikemp2341 Жыл бұрын
@@jacklane3679 yes I agree with that but if you where the England manager would you not look at the best defence in the league and then see who you can call up if you want to make a great difference 🤔
@jacklane3679
@jacklane3679 Жыл бұрын
@@dmitrikemp2341 I've already said you might be right mate, you honestly don't have to convince me of anyone potentially being better than Dier. I know his flaws all too well and I'm sure Dunk has better qualities to his game 🤣 A topic of conversation in the video was Eric Dier or Maguire, which is why I made the original comment. I'm more than open to picking the best player first and foremost, so if that's Dunk I'll think about it. It's difficult for me to have a discussion about whether or not Dunk is better than Dier with the sample sizes I have watching them both, however it is a fact that England know Dier is someone that isn't too phased by being called up and Dunk only got picked years back and played one friendly. My point was kind of based on the idea that I can't blame anyone for not taking a risk on Dunk for the World Cup and Dier is clearly the closest to Maguire in terms of experience.
@MrLewbaah
@MrLewbaah Жыл бұрын
Both dier and Maguire should be nowhere near the squad 😂😂 Jesus Christ
@jonlamb6980
@jonlamb6980 Жыл бұрын
That boy just loves the sound of his own voice
@Uzityessir
@Uzityessir Жыл бұрын
This has to be thogdens last time on Saturday Social. It’s not one of your own videos now mate, your opinion matters the least out of everyone in that room so let the others speak first - hard watch this morning Sky 😓
@ibraheemmonks8866
@ibraheemmonks8866 Жыл бұрын
He's like a spoilt child talking over everyone and ignoring good criticism about how hypocritical the selection is.
@Milnos106
@Milnos106 Жыл бұрын
Stones and Tomori starting, White backup and Dier if we want to play 5atb. Guehi unlucky to miss out be Nicole gave valid reasons, Thogden's reasons were 'He was good before'. By that same logic, lets include Rio and Terry in the squad
@TheLeechaolan15
@TheLeechaolan15 Жыл бұрын
Foden Kane Gallagher C.Taylor Tomori JWP Walker Burn Dunk Maguire Pope Henderson, Ramsdale, Dawson, Dier, Tarkowski, R.James, Trippier, Targett, Westwood, Shelvey, Bellingham, Grealish, Sterling, Toney, Antonio
@SuperXcaliber
@SuperXcaliber Жыл бұрын
@@TheLeechaolan15 well it’s a good thing your not manager then 😂
@dmitrikemp2341
@dmitrikemp2341 Жыл бұрын
What about Lewis dunk playing in the best defence in the Premier League so far this season doesn't even get a look in the England squad he is so much better then white and Eric dier Ben white isn't even playing centre-back this season🤔
@TheLeechaolan15
@TheLeechaolan15 Жыл бұрын
@@dmitrikemp2341 exactly. Brighton had the best defense last season also, and before that Dunk carried Brighton all the way from League Two. Dunk is one of the best CB in the world for years with Rüdiger and Matip. And England's best CB obviously.
@robbiearrowsmith6006
@robbiearrowsmith6006 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLeechaolan15 my brother in christ it's the world cup not league one 🤣
@namansirohia
@namansirohia Жыл бұрын
We need more Nicole !!!!! tell her to take the lead !!!!
@mister_M.
@mister_M. Жыл бұрын
Get the host OFF ANS REPLACE HIM WITH HER. PLEASE
@ronkoko3969
@ronkoko3969 Жыл бұрын
I saw him hold Maguire saying he was so vital in Russia WC and he scores goals. This is the reason England have a trouble winning anything major titles. Always picking players on reputation rather than current form. so sad.
@MGall_Channel
@MGall_Channel Жыл бұрын
Yes, he was vital when he had more form back then. Now his confidence is shot. England are now adding players like Toney and potentially Abraham to the mix. Players who can get their head on the ball and are natural finishers. They don't need a slow liabilitybat the back. Coady amd Dier are capable of stepping up with headers aswell.
@ronkoko3969
@ronkoko3969 Жыл бұрын
@@MGall_Channel calling up players and starting them aren't the same. Mcguire can't even get a game for utd but he starts for England . Shocking.
@chibifirestorm
@chibifirestorm Жыл бұрын
it doesn't even matter who is in the squad, Southgate could make a front 3 of Mbappe, Prime Messi and Ronaldinho look bland. There's no system, tactics or anything. I have literally zero optimism for the World Cup, none.
@HarryKanee
@HarryKanee Жыл бұрын
Bare in mind his first 2 tournaments are a world cup semi final and Euros final say what you want he's our best manager since 66
@chibifirestorm
@chibifirestorm Жыл бұрын
@@HarryKanee Raymond Domenech made the WC Final with France and he's regarded as one of their worst managers of all time.
@HarryKanee
@HarryKanee Жыл бұрын
@@chibifirestorm this is England not France
@chibifirestorm
@chibifirestorm Жыл бұрын
@@HarryKanee it's ironic that' your username is Harry Kane because like him England will win nothing
@Flygono03
@Flygono03 Жыл бұрын
Southgates only managerial experience outside of England was getting Boro relegated 🤣
@upunderhunting3872
@upunderhunting3872 Жыл бұрын
Thogden talks about Brazil not being worried when seeing Dier and then goes ahead and puts Maguire on the board 😂
@stevennicholson5707
@stevennicholson5707 Жыл бұрын
I thought SouthGate was clueless but the fact the guy picked almost the same team tells you that more English fans are naive like him 😂😂😂
@emoslayer9025
@emoslayer9025 Жыл бұрын
We don’t claim them
@UstashaMe84
@UstashaMe84 Жыл бұрын
@@emoslayer9025 We don’t but he has a point. Us English fans are some of the most naive, never think outside of the box.
@jasonmillsom2981
@jasonmillsom2981 Жыл бұрын
To give Jack Grealish credit, he was never 100 Million, maybe 40 or 50 Million Aston Villa was just over pricing him bc they wanted to keep him
@ash_ish1447
@ash_ish1447 Жыл бұрын
Yeh ppl seem to forget that he had a release clause 🤦‍♂️
@brianboru8858
@brianboru8858 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t over price him, they set a high release clause thinking it wouldn’t be triggered and then it was
@bluesEvanskro
@bluesEvanskro Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d still take grealish defo, he looked okay when he came on last night
@r4h4al
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
Plus with how rich City are, why does it matter if they overpay for him?
@Bulskee
@Bulskee Жыл бұрын
He had the second most goal involvements in the PL in his final Villa season. Only KDB did better. Players with those stats don’t go for 40m!!! 🤦‍♂️
@jenniferdelgado1535
@jenniferdelgado1535 Жыл бұрын
Bad news... after last night... Southgate will be bringing another 3 more defenders to Qatar, so that'll be 15 defenders in the squad
@ChessThingsOfficial
@ChessThingsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Dier for Maguire, Sancho for Grealish
@yamcha111
@yamcha111 Жыл бұрын
sancho for rashford and tammy for philips
@ChessThingsOfficial
@ChessThingsOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@yamcha111 I agree
@abongile464
@abongile464 Жыл бұрын
Thogden guy is a most confident clueless person
@anandmorris
@anandmorris Жыл бұрын
Lizz Truss.
@tomic7493
@tomic7493 Жыл бұрын
NIcole can't even complete most of her sentences because Thogden is just 🗣🗣
@tevintomlinson574
@tevintomlinson574 Жыл бұрын
You can tell she doesn't like him!!
@footballmattersfc4690
@footballmattersfc4690 Жыл бұрын
People won't agree but I would start Trippier at RB he's been brilliant this season & his free kicks are unbelievable 👌
@whiteblack4562
@whiteblack4562 Жыл бұрын
personally i believe trippier can do everything. hes more well rounded compared to someone like trent who is creative offensively but lacks defensively. trippier can play in any system really
@kojob7787
@kojob7787 Жыл бұрын
He can play LB so i will use him there
@EmmaUwU69
@EmmaUwU69 Жыл бұрын
Why not play him LB tho when James/Trent/Walker are better rightbacks
@dagotowka9191
@dagotowka9191 Жыл бұрын
@@EmmaUwU69 because just because they can play there means they should.. hes obviously going to be worse and aying on his wrong foot
@callumgardiner16
@callumgardiner16 Жыл бұрын
Thogdens ball knowledge and football opinions absolutely baffle me 😂😂
@looocooo1470
@looocooo1470 Жыл бұрын
Thogden is a joke. I'm not even British, but his knowledge is a complete joke. I honestly dont like him at all. Adds Maguire that is ridiculous. Dier or Coady are better options. Leaving Abraham is criminal. Serie A is one of my favorite leagues and he definitely one of the best.
@mattvanemden7573
@mattvanemden7573 Жыл бұрын
@@looocooo1470 Serie A is a poor league. Very weak other than Napoli, AC Milan, Inter, and Juventus. The rest are horrendous. Tammy Abraham not good enough compared to the other strikers mentioned such as Toney, Wilson, Watkins, and others. Abraham had to leave the best league in the world at a top club to get game time in a weaker league and weaker team.
@looocooo1470
@looocooo1470 Жыл бұрын
@@mattvanemden7573 🤡
@guywakeford3259
@guywakeford3259 Жыл бұрын
As a Brighton fan I'd love to see Graham Potter get the England job 🤣😆
@gutiadim8028
@gutiadim8028 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea is not part time job mate
@theemperor6413
@theemperor6413 Жыл бұрын
I am a Newcastle supporter and I agree, I believe that Potter at Chelsea is perfect because it’s a test, if he does well then we have a perfect replacement
@russian5470
@russian5470 Жыл бұрын
@@gutiadim8028 seems as tho it is. Managers come and go
@marcothorsen950
@marcothorsen950 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Steve Bruce as England Head coach. 🤣🤣
@ankshu3482
@ankshu3482 Жыл бұрын
Tammy Deserves to selected And I will choose Sancho over Mount
@wee6331
@wee6331 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@rizinhokasa
@rizinhokasa Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t even be a choice
@jaggydproductions
@jaggydproductions Жыл бұрын
Should've switched out Maddison for Abraham
@yeahyeah9869
@yeahyeah9869 Жыл бұрын
Nah mount has been consistent and would take him over sancho unless sancho shows his Dortmund stats and game play
@ankshu3482
@ankshu3482 Жыл бұрын
@@yeahyeah9869 right now Sancho is doing better than mount that's why I'm picking him over Mount
@clarkmackintosh891
@clarkmackintosh891 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Maguire going and actually playing is even a conversation shows you that England are bound for another disappointment.
@Gron_SA
@Gron_SA Жыл бұрын
The fact that Thogden only thought about a reason to leave Sancho out only after he had already made the decision says it all.
@abelshiferaw8567
@abelshiferaw8567 Жыл бұрын
Jaden sancho not being there is criminal
@blackpilltv4388
@blackpilltv4388 Жыл бұрын
saka over him all day, saka has been better in the league and for england.
@fabriciocostaa
@fabriciocostaa Жыл бұрын
@@blackpilltv4388 Sancho over mount not Saka
@tipufitzherbert1088
@tipufitzherbert1088 Жыл бұрын
@@blackpilltv4388 saka is better but it doesn't mean sancho can't be called up as well, mount doesn't deserve the call up for me or we could do with not having so many defenders
@jacob4690
@jacob4690 Жыл бұрын
For scoring 2 goals 😂😂
@AryanKumar-wo3if
@AryanKumar-wo3if Жыл бұрын
Saka and mount better
@chillpanda9960
@chillpanda9960 Жыл бұрын
For conor coady's argument with putting him on the plane, just hey him as an assistant in the euros and not in the squad in this case !!
@liamefc97
@liamefc97 Жыл бұрын
Coadys been rock solid at Everton along side tarkowski
@chillpanda9960
@chillpanda9960 Жыл бұрын
@@liamefc97 for me its just a case of a lot of ppl being here
@reezellthia
@reezellthia Жыл бұрын
Exactly just have him as part of the staff
@rishabh3150
@rishabh3150 Жыл бұрын
The squad should have be: GK: Pickford, Ramsdale, Pope RB/RWB: TAA, James LB/LWB: Shaw, Chillwell, Trippier CB: Tomori, Stones, Walker, Dier, White CM/DM: Rice, Bellingham, Phillips (if fit, otherwise Henderson), Ward-Prowse CAM: Mount, Maddison Wingers: Foden, Saka, Sterling, Grealish Strikers: Kane, Abraham 26th slot is debatable between Sancho, Rashford and Toney based on who is best in form before the world cup.. I haven't seen a more hypocritical team selection.. the guy ignores Shaw but picks Maguire.. Abraham has been one of the best stikers last season but doesn't get picked... Shaw is arguably the best LB we have right now.. Chilwell lacks defensively and is too injury prone.. Henderson is decent but others are better unfortunately...
@cvmgaming568
@cvmgaming568 Жыл бұрын
I think abraham is more likely to score in 90 mins than toney but toney is just so much more of a handful for defenders and its a nightmare when you see him coming onto the pitch
@Brickhazard
@Brickhazard Жыл бұрын
This kid is almost as bad a Gareth Southgate. Leaving Tammy and Sancho at home but takes Chillwell instead of Shaw and Slabhead who can't even get a game for his club.
@taylorjames14
@taylorjames14 Жыл бұрын
They do these things for reactions. Can't just pick all the right players 😂
@josephharrison7914
@josephharrison7914 Жыл бұрын
Thogden has minus IQ I think that's why hes like this
@Wow-hr1gl
@Wow-hr1gl Жыл бұрын
sancho is no way near and Tammy aint even that great
@BigSmokeMUFC
@BigSmokeMUFC Жыл бұрын
@@Wow-hr1gl ur ball knowledge is appalling. Sancho and Tammy are great additions to the England squad and anyone would rather players like them over the likes of Grealish and Slabhead.
@Wow-hr1gl
@Wow-hr1gl Жыл бұрын
@@BigSmokeMUFC have you actually watched Roma, Abraham has been good toney has been better especially in build up and in a much worse team. sancho has a good moment then goes invisible for a few games, grealish has been great for England off the bench, and slabhead is overhated, for England he is class and can chip in with goals.
@win-nufc
@win-nufc Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting all morning for this
@giovanniebrady966
@giovanniebrady966 Жыл бұрын
This girl totally destroyed Thogden with that Luke Shaw bit 😂😭
@willdemaray774
@willdemaray774 Жыл бұрын
I'm bummed about the idea of Sancho not getting to go. I think he's about to have his best season this year and could help England a lot.
@2723cadd
@2723cadd Жыл бұрын
If they offered me Maguire to play as a 12th man against 11 I’d still say no.
@rhj107
@rhj107 Жыл бұрын
👌🤣🤣
@archiewall124
@archiewall124 Жыл бұрын
Only person in discussion in relation to ‘stay or go’ is Southgate, and by the way, the answer is go.
@stuartswanton1676
@stuartswanton1676 Жыл бұрын
Joe: "You've got to come to some sort of agreement." Thogden: "I'll put my team up then we'll decide" Shows how Southgate isn't creative with England if Thogden is arguing Maguire goes because he gets goals.
@elliotmasters9342
@elliotmasters9342 Жыл бұрын
Thongden playing fifa with this, downplaying dier, was our best defender against Italy, playing well for his club, has a lot of England experience why on earth would we not take him over maguire rn?
@sadifrahman9288
@sadifrahman9288 Жыл бұрын
Thogden was really adamant about his selections
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 Жыл бұрын
Thogden didn't even have a real reason for Sancho's omission. He's so invested in being pro Southgate that he's even making the same unjustifiable decisions. Why would you take 4 right backs, and then leave out Sancho? You can also argue that Dean Henderson should go because he is a penalty specialist. It's highly unlikely that you'll need more than one keeper throughout a tournament, so you might as well use one of the spots for a penalty specialist; he's also about as good as the others overall anyways. Not too fussed about the keeper though, for me all 4 are about the same level. To rectify the egregious decisions, take out Trent and Maguire. Replace them with Dier and Sancho.
@jc3342
@jc3342 Жыл бұрын
Because he's an idiot
@kingdaymon6433
@kingdaymon6433 Жыл бұрын
Alexander Arnold as a fullback is more productive offensively than Sancho has been for the past year. I agree Sancho deserves a chance to go but not if it’s between him and AA.
@jackryan3800
@jackryan3800 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see a tier between the two. One for if the nailed on players are injured, who would be primed to step up into the team
@MuhammadAli44444
@MuhammadAli44444 Жыл бұрын
You can't say this is Nicole's squad. She didn't get a say.
@joshbehan8245
@joshbehan8245 Жыл бұрын
Thogden's had a shocker there icl
@dribblesbarbax7570
@dribblesbarbax7570 Жыл бұрын
His point about bringing Rashford because he was there involved and helping Man Utd turn things around is hilarious when you think about Maguire. They dropped him to the bench and things turned around. Yet he brings him.
@chuck-1423
@chuck-1423 Жыл бұрын
Formation for England must be 4-3-3 and our starting 11 must be: GK: Pickford RB: Walker RCB: Stones LCB: Tomori LB: Chilwell CDM: Rice CM: Bellingham CM: Ward-Prowse LW: Grealish RW: Foden ST: Kane
@patrickculbert5646
@patrickculbert5646 Жыл бұрын
The fact that thogden gets paid to talk about football is the biggest injustice of the 21st century
@human_error1
@human_error1 Жыл бұрын
This should be of been called The Thogden Takeover. Let Nicole have a choice in this. come on! 🙄
@305Solo
@305Solo Жыл бұрын
Can Southgate be left at home? If that happens then the squad itself would be able to play some sort of football that isn’t based on ignoring the ball more often than not and an abundance of defenders in the squad
@Haavis97
@Haavis97 Жыл бұрын
Why is Thogden arguing Maguire has important goals? He doesn’t, and that’s not why you pick a defender for England. You pick a defender because you need a solid backline, Maguire is the opposite of solid
@tipufitzherbert1088
@tipufitzherbert1088 Жыл бұрын
mitchell deserves a call up. all that is missing from his game is his ability to perform under pressure, but I think if southgate can coach anything in a player it's exactly that
@jabriljamal
@jabriljamal Жыл бұрын
My 26 Man England squad: Pickford, Pope, Ramsdale Walker, James, TAA, Chilwell, Shaw, Trippier, Maguire, Stones, Dier, Tomori Rice, Bellingham, Grealish, Mount, Foden, JWP, Henderson Kane, Abraham, Wilson, Sterling, Sancho, Saka
@jamesh1597531
@jamesh1597531 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Thats the same team I will pick for worldcup.
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge Жыл бұрын
Gk : Pickford, Ramsdale , Pope Def : James, Walker, TAA, White, Trippier, Stones, Tomori, Chilwell, Dier MId : Rice, Bellingham, Mount, JWP, Maddison, Foden, Sancho, Henderson Att: Kane, Abraham, Sterling, Saka, Toney, Grealish. My more realistic selection.
@richardweiss3931
@richardweiss3931 Жыл бұрын
@@Iron-Bridge makes more sense to me
@Jack-dg9sd
@Jack-dg9sd Жыл бұрын
Not bringing Dier is insane, he’s not just had a good start to the season he’s been class since Conte came in.
@ColinZeal01
@ColinZeal01 Жыл бұрын
Too late mate thogden has made up his mind already!
@jackrobinson780
@jackrobinson780 Жыл бұрын
Maddison so underrated man had better season than all midfielders in a really bad Leicester team
@tommywalsh8286
@tommywalsh8286 Жыл бұрын
Wilson is a great option if he's fit. Poor lad could have been a top player without his persistent injuries
@CIC77
@CIC77 Жыл бұрын
Where is Southgate picture?? Lol Definitely got to stay at home!
@DarrenSimpson____
@DarrenSimpson____ Жыл бұрын
Man it was hard watching this video because thogen💔
@Kaigu_b.f.2508
@Kaigu_b.f.2508 Жыл бұрын
"Do you think Dier will be feared by the other team in such a big stage?" Comming from the guy that picks maguire 😂😂
@charleshenriquez7421
@charleshenriquez7421 Жыл бұрын
Thogden: “Maguires been really good” *Forgets that England was relegated to the second tier of the Nations League*
@L45456
@L45456 Жыл бұрын
Saturday Social ft Just Thogden
@kevinconway2965
@kevinconway2965 Жыл бұрын
Edit: Thogden ft Saturday Social
@DS-ty2nb
@DS-ty2nb Жыл бұрын
Thogden shouldn't feel bad for henderson as he hasn't played well except for his penalty saves but his reactions after are completely unneeded and childish as his team was losing and get he was celebrating like he'd won the world cup. Also henderson didn't play last season so tough luck and imo he hasn't even been that good for me he has let in a few goals that shouldn't have happened
@liamanderson6191
@liamanderson6191 Жыл бұрын
Coady is more than just a leader I realised this watching him this season for us
@jameshanley9418
@jameshanley9418 Жыл бұрын
thogden going "ill go over to the assistant in a second" at 4:15 really tells you all you need to know about whos england squad this is..
@danielfaboyede8319
@danielfaboyede8319 Жыл бұрын
It feels so nice as a man UTD fan to hear because Maguire isn't playing for his club when we've been crying out for it since
@hq..
@hq.. Жыл бұрын
😅 Sancho playing well and being left at home whilst maguire on the bench and on the plane lol.. Well its not my country, Goodluck England.
@Anonymous-xr8hx
@Anonymous-xr8hx Жыл бұрын
@@hq.. those two things aren't linked. You can say Dier playing well and being left at home whilst Maguire on the bench and on the plane is hypocritical because they both play in the same position. But the fact that Maguire should be left at home is completely irrelevant to whether Sancho should go. You can make arguments for Sancho going like Sancho va Grealish or Sancho vs Rashford or an extra winger instead of a midfielder like Kalvin Phillips. But you can't compare a winger to a CB to justify taking the winger. Hypothetically we may have had to take an out of form CB Maguire but leave an inform winger like Sancho at home simply because we had an abundance of good wingers and fewer options at CB.
@dunkno69
@dunkno69 Жыл бұрын
@@hq.. sancho had good 4 games, hes been anonymous for over a year
@hq..
@hq.. Жыл бұрын
@@dunkno69 bro selection is by form
@dunkno69
@dunkno69 Жыл бұрын
@@hq.. imo he should go, but he's way too inconsistent to even be considered a starter. sterling and saka start easily
@dessiparis3553
@dessiparis3553 Жыл бұрын
Sterling. Kane. Saka Grealish. Tommy. Sancho Rashford. Foden Mount Bellingham. Henderson Rice. Phillips Chillwell. Maguire. Stones. James Tripper. Tomori. White. Tren Shaw Walker Ramsdale Pickford Pope
@justthetwoofus.
@justthetwoofus. Жыл бұрын
Imo Dier over Maguire by a lot and send Maguire on the next flight to Antarctica. Maybe Shaw too and bring another mid or forward but otherwise the rest is fine
@hamzathebeastgaming3339
@hamzathebeastgaming3339 Жыл бұрын
I would probably make alot of changes For example I would put (1) Kyle Walker Peters over chilwell going on current form (2) Eric Dier over Harry Maguire (3) Conor Coady over Ben White I mean Coady is just a leader in the dressing room and this team full of youngsters so they do need some experienced players to help them out
@joelmathejojo
@joelmathejojo Жыл бұрын
Leaving Dier was ridiculous 😂
@makumbakatete2163
@makumbakatete2163 Жыл бұрын
Even in the former colonies we mourn Southgates choices 🥲
@joepublicnpc8998
@joepublicnpc8998 Жыл бұрын
Can't take that 🤡 seriously disrespecting Dier but taking Maguire 🤦‍♂️
@sinethembatyuluba1416
@sinethembatyuluba1416 Жыл бұрын
do you have to pick three goalkeepers in these internationals
@c.d714
@c.d714 Жыл бұрын
You bring players in who are in the best form, only exception to that are for exceptional players.
@ljunyreona9882
@ljunyreona9882 Жыл бұрын
GS is like a restaurant owner who doesn't let his chef do his own thing but only let them serve the same old menu every menu.
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
*Walker and Reece James both miles ahead of Trent defensively *Both play on the right side and proceed to ball watch and concede and lose the game, which no one will talk about Not to slander anyone, but Trent is the probably the best footballer in the English squad technically, he isn't as bad as people make him out to be defensive and going forward his on his on level. Stop listening to what the internet tells you, Trent would win so many games for England, just as his done for Liverpool.
@taylorjames14
@taylorjames14 Жыл бұрын
They're extremely protected. Look at the goal yesterday they're at fault but everybody blamed maguire even though he was on the opposite side 🤦🏻‍♂️
@B_razzer
@B_razzer Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how it’s even a question about whether or not he makes the squad.
@Damon-xr6zf
@Damon-xr6zf Жыл бұрын
Trent plays in a back 4 for Liverpool and would be in a back 5 for England which would possibly have walker as the RH of the 3 centre backs. Therefore he wouldn't need to be too focused on defending.
@lucask841
@lucask841 Жыл бұрын
He is definitely as bad as people think defensively. He’s proved that consistently. But if we’re playing back 3 then he should def start at RWB with James as a backup, and I’m a Chelsea fan
@Ibrahim-nf6yh
@Ibrahim-nf6yh Жыл бұрын
@@lucask841 He just needs cover ffs Last night I bet my life that if he started instead of RJ then The result would’ve been different bcz Both Walker and Bellingham could’ve given him the cover he needs when he goes forward
@spongebabe27
@spongebabe27 Жыл бұрын
If I'm honest I'd want Tammy on in the 87th minute for a late winner over Toney. Would probably take Toney as a starter over Tammy (neither over Kane obviously)
@Al-oy3pk
@Al-oy3pk Жыл бұрын
I get why he used Saka in LWB in that game in some ways. Hard to choose the winger and he has experience playing there from before so would have been good to get him in aswell. From the Germany game its clear he needs to be a winger and is completely wasted as wingback
@miikky9999
@miikky9999 Жыл бұрын
I’m watching exactly why England won’t win the World Cup😂
@mahamudhassan7522
@mahamudhassan7522 Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe Foden needs a player like Sancho for that intricate 1-2 play that he loves. I would take Sancho.
@matheogarrett4384
@matheogarrett4384 Жыл бұрын
Harrison Reed great shout. Underrated
@MrBectham
@MrBectham Жыл бұрын
My 26 men squad , GK: Pickford , pope, Ramsdale , Defenders : Reece James, tripper, walker, Ben white, stones, Dier, maguier, tomori, Ben chilwell. Midfielders: Rice , Bellingham, mount, Foden ,JWP , Henderson, drewbury hall . Attackers: Kane , Ivan toney , sterling, saka , grealish , sancho , rashford
@coolestseun8521
@coolestseun8521 Жыл бұрын
SAKA is the best player in England squad without him England team just looks like Zombies running after balls, is the only player that’s confident enough and take players on and create havoc in the defense of the opposite team!
@ChalkyNathan
@ChalkyNathan Жыл бұрын
We just going to forget about Harry Kane?
@mattvanemden7573
@mattvanemden7573 Жыл бұрын
Hes massively overrated and gets overhyped just because he is young and people said mean things to him online lol. Bellingham and Foden are the best players in the England squad and Saka is so far behind them its scary.
@sandeshrai1936
@sandeshrai1936 Жыл бұрын
out: Maguire Phillips in: Dier Abraham
@kaidenbrunckhorst149
@kaidenbrunckhorst149 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@dbmikeyg255
@dbmikeyg255 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@Anonymous-xr8hx
@Anonymous-xr8hx Жыл бұрын
GK: Pickford, Pope, Ramsdale RB: Walker, James, Trent CB: Stones, Tomori, Dier, Maguire LB: Chilwell, Trippier, Shaw CM: Rice, Bellingham, Henderson, Ward Prowse, Mount LW: Sterling, Grealish, Rashford ST: Kane, Tammy, Toney RW: Foden, Saka Only reason I'd take Maguire over White is because you have to think about the logistics of how England play. We play with a back 3 and have multiple players comfortable at RCB (Walker, Stones) and CCB (Dier, Stones) but only 1 really at LCB (Tomori). And even he hasn't played there a lot. From our 4th CB we don't need another RCB/CCB so there isn't really room for a White, Coady, Dunk etc unless you took 5 CBs which is pointless. The choice for 4th CB is really between Maguire and Kilman. I'd have loved for Kilman to go to the world cup but he hasn't been integrated into the England team. As a backup LCB we have to rely on Maguire and I think Southgate knows this. You can't just hrow defenders that are playing well for their club into the squad because you defend as a unit. That's why we see a lot more rotation in the forward positions than defensive positions. Your average England fan will never think I'm this much depth when complaining about Southgate's choices but these are the things he has to think about. And there's a reason we haven't been getting knocked out in the group stages or round of 16 under him like we were before he came in.
@JM-qe1tx
@JM-qe1tx Жыл бұрын
The only reason for Maguire being call is that Southage hasn’t implemented Fikayo and Smalling into the system and it’s now kinda late to change the CB’s partnership just a month before the WC
@deanmalone1568
@deanmalone1568 Жыл бұрын
loved the part he was so proud of the hes only started 5 and they said yeah out of 7 aha thogden is a google search stat merchant and doesnt actually understand what hes saying
@Ccccc-mi3tr
@Ccccc-mi3tr Жыл бұрын
Blinded by nostalgia of Maguires world cup goals 😂 same reason united paid £80m for him. Take a step back and look with fresh eyes
@BigSmokeMUFC
@BigSmokeMUFC Жыл бұрын
Slabhead is League 2 lvl at best
@NK-xd6xv
@NK-xd6xv Жыл бұрын
Rashford scored , Sancho has not been better but has scored vital goals at vital times.with more composure than anyone. Some players you picking on form and then when it comes to certain players it doesn’t matter.
@Phlegnut19
@Phlegnut19 Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is that almost every player for england plays in England whereas most other countries have teams whose players plays all across Europe.
@joepublicnpc8998
@joepublicnpc8998 Жыл бұрын
This lil boy is clueless. Not taking Sancho would be England losing any chance of winning the world cup
@glennmaidment3377
@glennmaidment3377 Жыл бұрын
Pick any team u want it's the manager that we need selecting hence a new one
@watchlfcwintheucl1693
@watchlfcwintheucl1693 Жыл бұрын
We have to give him one last chance this WC there’s not much point changing it now especially as with a new manager they’ll probably do the same if not worse
@HarryKanee
@HarryKanee Жыл бұрын
@@watchlfcwintheucl1693 watch these lot start praising Southgate after he gets us to a semi final or Final
@archiewall124
@archiewall124 Жыл бұрын
@@HarryKanee we won’t get to the final or the semis, and if we did it’ll be because we got a nice run to that stage, and then we’ll face a good side and get beat. That’s all we’ve done under Southgate.
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
Never🤣🤣
@watchlfcwintheucl1693
@watchlfcwintheucl1693 Жыл бұрын
@@archiewall124 what do I want us to do lose the easy games we’ve only lost to teams better than in us at euro and WC
@ibhudacreations7641
@ibhudacreations7641 Жыл бұрын
This guy is arguing Maguire’s selection based on the last World Cup and possibly scoring goals, the guy is a defender not a striker. 🤦‍♂️
@jordanharris5013
@jordanharris5013 Жыл бұрын
My thing is we are struggling to score goals. Players like Grealish are super creative but not a goal threat. I think we need more scoring threats on the pitch even if they hurt us in other areas. Kane last night was super selfish. There were a few scoring opportunities and he just shot. Like later in the game we had 4 players in the 6 yard box being covered by 1 defender and kane shot from a terrible angle. That was just poor from me because he's usually so unselfish.
@ChessThingsOfficial
@ChessThingsOfficial Жыл бұрын
1:10 Theo: If it was a tournament just for penalties I'd start him every year Me: If you got goals for missing Werner would've won the golden boot
@benjamincorbett
@benjamincorbett Жыл бұрын
He didn’t take him though. Do you have learning difficulties?
@ChessThingsOfficial
@ChessThingsOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@benjamincorbett I am very sorry I meant it as a joke please don't be offensive as i may have certain difficulties I don't wan't to expose
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