Will nintendo still even be around in 2077?

​@@Moolassy2085?

Miyamoto's still alive, so the earliest Mario could go public domain would be 2094. And that would be if Miyamoto were to die this year. Every year he survives is another year added to wait for Mario to go public domain.

@@SeanWheeler100 It's a shame I won't be alive to see that moment in 2094, I hope my grandchildren enjoy that moment.

@@efren0188 Never mind, after reading on Wikipedia that Walt Disney died in 1966, which was only fifty-eight years ago, I looked up the copyright laws. Seems like we were going with the 95 years after publication rule for Mickey. Is the rule about 70 years after the author's death exclusive to novels or does the creator have to be killed within twenty-five years after the work was written to use the life + 70 years copyright term?

Truly historic

Disney’s fault for going woke and pissing off Republican lawmakers so they couldn’t get Congress to extend the copyright another 20 years like they did the last two times Mickey was about to enter the public domain.

It's like Martin Luther King's speech

He already did enter public domain. Twice. But American Congress put a stop to it and gave Disney two 20-year extensions.

@@RyanSoltaniagreed hope Mickey Mouse becomes a horror movie🎉

I wanna watch that movie

That's OK. Mickey can pass the time by torturing animals :B

Just gooned to this

And if Disney had anything to say about it.. it would have been another 95 years! Their greed and Woke ideology is mind blowing.

​@@fusedglass01"greed" "woke" Bro, this is KZfaq, not Reddit

Honestly yeah they one hundred percent could put him in one of their movies and make him a psychopathic dictator or something

They gonna do that in Shrek 5

​@kaden_the_dragon_king imagine if they make him Shrek's friend and make a full origin story where he's free 💀

I wonder if KZfaq has caught up and made sure it cannot be claimed. Wouldn't be surprised if Disney KZfaq bot crawlers still pick this up and claim it. And if Disney don't, some other tosser probably will.

I'm gonna bet the frivolous lawsuits will still ensue. Disney has a legion of lawyers on staff to keep people paying to defend themselves. Couple that with YT being in Disney's pocket already.

i wonder if any reaction streamers will stream the whole short. it is legal to show the full cartoon now.

@@TheUltimateRare chat chat, did mickey just abuse those animals chat?

I mean it's nice to have an unedited version, but the true beauty of public domain is when people can try fresh ideas of what to do with older properties and can now make them come to life.

Real

My grandfather would like to see it too

i think we might have gotten gipped

What's stopping you from exploring the earth?

​@@VeProducctionsit's already explored bruh if you go out exploring again you're just doing it for recreation, which isn't the point of the quote

right

what a marble rac-

The song Mickey whistles is called “steamboat hill”

hello, my childhood. it's been so long.

Nicky Jam o qué wey?

Yeah, that was before he started wearing gloves all the time, the gloves calmed him down ;)

Interestingly, he embodied Walt Disney's own personality. Walt's widow would be saddened whenever she saw Mickey, because she saw her late spouse in him.

I'm 40 and it's the first time *I've* seen Steamboat Willie in its entirety!

I'm 32 and this is my first time as well after SO many years of seeing JUST that clip of him whistling and tbat one level of Kingdom Hearts. It's... not quite what I was expecting.

Same and same!

Ha! I'm seen it on VHS tape when it's... been in public domain of course! *nervous sweating* ok ok, it wasn't been in public that time, but I never knew that day, just watched this cartoon and many others old goodness.

Same here. I never realized I haven't actually seen the entire thing. I didn't know it was several minutes long.

Lmao he’s actually evil

LOL like actually hes an asshole that duck was chilin he was friend made a good instrument though lol cant say he didnt play the duck well xD

So a blood and honey crossover with steamboat willy wouldn't be that far off

Here before KZfaq marks this for kids and comments are disabled.

Well, of course Mickey is evil. He owns Disney!

I thought it was a bar of steel and he was going to shoot bullets from his mouth or something. When he started spitting, I realized it was tobacco. I know they advertised chew on TV for years (Bull of the Woods, etc). and of course it was much more socially acceptable. I like how cartoons take culture for granted. It gives a fascinating glimpse into everyday lives of their eras. :)

I thought it was chocolate :(

I thought that was hard gum or Smth like that

Mickey Rooney in which Mickey Mouse was named after died in 2014

@@raptorfromthe6ix833Ohh I bet you’re fun at parties

true

yeah same, the whole time it reminded me of tom & jerry with the weirdest things happening. and the physically impossible ways their bodies move at times lol

Yeah but its missing the part where mickey picks up the entire pig and plays it

@@V0IDWAREthis is the censored version

Mickey was a real asshole in this animation, I don't get how he turned out to be a kids hero.

@@GermanTopGameTV Old cartoons were pretty messed up. In the old Felix the Cat one he commits suicide when he finds out he has kids he can't support.

Micky Mouse is a menace

​@@kamikeserpentail3778 Bro should have gotten the milk.

The mouse has always been abusive. Mickey got better, but the House didn't really.

Cartoons were a lot expensive then

@@imsobruhdo we know the budget for this short?

Ub Iwerks drew the whole thing from start to finish by himself. Wouldn't let anyone "in-between," for him, and didn't follow the, "extremes and in-betweens," model of animating the more pronounced poses of a scene first, and then filling in the gaps afterward. Just drew it all in a straight run, pumping out an ungodly number of frames per day. He did so for both this and, "Plane Crazy," the latter of which was produced first but released second, after Walt decided to, "...make them over, with sound!" They got paid very little for either. This was all after Charlie Mintz stole both Oswald and Disney's entire animation staff, save Iwerks. (This is all from memory, but I believe every word to be 100% accurate.)

​@@leviticusprime4904The budget was $4,986 US dollars at the time, which would currently be approximately 80,000 dollars. So yes, it was expensive

Maybe we can undo the obscene damage Disney has done to Copyright lengths.

​​@@XX-sp3ttThere's a lot of crazy people that think Mickey and Pooh should be protected still (cause they don't like stuff like Blood and Honey). This stuff is the public's to do what they want with it now, good or bad.

Well, I think it's THIS specific version of the character, not Mickey Mouse as a whole.

That video can't really be made yet. Since only this version of Mickey is public domain disney will attempt to claim alterations to the character make it so he isn't steam boat Willie Mickey but some other version of the character that isn't public domain. How will that work out? Who knows? We have some idea how that could play out in court but it's just conjecture.

not the current mickey mouse but the steam boat willie only version.

nahh this is how they got paid by disney for saying "the andrew garfield spiderman leak" was edited and fake to everyone. then people saw the movie and yep its a leak.

Upgrade to 8K 240 FPS HDR 3D

Feels like more of them testing it maybe

Not yet, not until people start making their own versions, and adding this version of Mickey to published stories.

A.I. Generated Steamboat Willy in 2024 Land, Pro-Noun Edition

How much media have you consumed from the 1920's, even the really popular stuff from back then? Exactly.

@@keyscored3710 I just thought more people would have seen it by now, given it's so popular. I remember first watching it off KZfaq, and I know it's also on Disney+

Some have seen this kinda

Wait until you see the others. This was one of three cartoons made all together and in one of the others he sexually assaults Minnie. He's a monster alright

Don't forget the parrot!

To be fair use, he has to make music through animal cruelty.

Same

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅lmao.....yessss

Same. Was really confused

Cuz otherwise that could be parody and/or fair use, like they could have already done. Now it's likely that anytime anyone looks up steamboat Willie, this video will come up first in google/KZfaq search results and this gain them crazy views for years to come. Plus this is the literal work that is now public domain, could be hard to argue that any new work with Willie is specifically this version of the mouse and might get them some undesirable legal attention.

The trade mark on it expired so it now public

I do wish it had been open-frame like the Disney Treasures edition of Willie.

Jake said it in his video

Remember that Walt Disney learned from Universal Studios, where he first came up with Oswald the Rabbit a year earlier.

Well, the bird was mocking and laughing at Mickey so...

he's not torturing them tho in cartoon logic.

It reminds me of Itchy & Scratchy, or even the violent version of Tom & Jerry.

​@peterhanson3472I mean that was a surprisingly normal way to treat a cat when this was made. My grandma has some stories of her and her brothers putting a cat in a bag and just yeeting it away 💀 Also here in denmark we have "Slå katten af tønden" "Hit the cat in the barrel" where you hit a barrel with a bat to break the barrel and get out the cat to mark the end of Fast. (nowadays it's just painted cats on the outside)

​@@LaugeHeibergi refuse to believe people were this psycho just under a hundred years ago lol that's horrid

​@@literallyjustgrass it it tho? I'd argue pigs are more intelegent, I'd also argue we torture them more than we did cats. It's just more well-hidden with the pigs. At this point in time, I think cats were seen much more as tools. Even livestock was seen as closer to humans. (I mean, its not wrong, pigs are very close to humans when looking at organs. We even have pigs in human form called "Oligarchs"💀) Anyways, the cat-in-barrel thing was prolly disgarded a long while before this, and for the cat-in-bag thing, its not like it's gonna permanently disfigure the cat. It's a cat, they're designed for that (Okay maybe not exactly in a bag and thrown hiszontally so they also roll but still, close enough...)

Why did you type that in Butthead's voice?

@@niravdarmesh5278Now I can’t help but read it in his voice 😂

@@josephstalin2606 May the rest of your year carry on in this fashion.

It’s still Micky Mouse. The title of the story is Steamboat Willie.

we're getting old

Good to see an old timer enjoying the platform. Me, I'm just a young'un but I like older things better than newer ones

And don't get started with tv shows and video games. It's even worse...

Bro why you talk like if disney killed your father?

​@@misterboxhead3045 He literally did

You can literally thank Disney for that, the history of copyright laws was literally changed in some sense due to them. This would have been public domain in 2004 if it weren't for the copyright extension law put into effect around then after Disney fought it. Now every work has to deal with the same law, which is a shame

It's gonna get copyrighted for sure, that music sure as hell ain't public domain. I already saw someone say they got music copyrighted for a similar reason.

Same here I've only seen the beginning where mickey is driving the steamboat

Same

Same. Just goes to show how much more art, movies, comics, we could experience without IP laws.

Add another one to the list

That is very sad. It was very widely available for free.

the beauty of Public Domain.

How the turntables

They can't

@@RyanSoltanidude talking like disney gonna collapse tomorrow

Disney is letting everyone have the Steamboat Willie video. (I think.) Cuz it showed on public domain.

Some need sooner than later. Look at the messy situation with early retro games. Some have their rights completely in the air such as bankruptcy/closed non-existant publisher. Or that publisher's choose to let them fester with cartridge and disc rot.

I completely agree! It's why I'm here watching this video at all :)

​@@skycloud4802I know right. It's disgusting, especially as a retro gamer, myself.

If they tried to lower it specifically for games, I can see nintendo getting pissed at mario being public domain, even 50years would be the reasonable point imho. 23 years for mario 64

@@mjcox242 Nintendo would still have the trademark, but yeah the original game would be free for everyone to enjoy. Especially for games, 30 years is the reasonable point for me. Maybe even 20. More likely to still have working hardware for the game if it was console-bound, to give preservationists a better chance at reverse-engineering and creating emulators that can keep these games alive for future generations!

nah she was there from the start of the old mickeys; she was in "plane crazy" too (even tho this one was made public first, that one was actually produced first)

Yeah it's the patriarchy that kept Minnie in the dark and changed history to fit the heteronormative agenda. That is why Disney nowadays fights the good fight and brings us all these wonderful and well written female lead characters who bring nothing but enlightenment for us and millions of dollars for them.

@@PraetorGixBad bait.

@@PraetorGixidk bro maybe its because mickey was the main character in the show like lmao

​@@burgbasshe's just being sarcastic

You forgot about the horrendous animal abuse

fair, but where did you see him hijack a moving boat? The only time he went outside the boat that he was in for the whole episode was to move the cow into the boat

It gets worse. This isn't his first short, it's his THIRD. His first short, Plane Crazy, had him literally *sexually assault Minnie.* What a horrible mouse!

Mickey is a king Kings tend to be like this lmao/j

which is why he hangs out with an edgelord like riku and has the kindgom key from the realm of darkness

One of a lot of reasons why People hate disney

70 years ago, if we're going by the original laws. And I'd argue that even the original 25 year term should have been shortened as technology made widespread distribution a quicker process. The point of copyright law was to protect the work juuust long enough for the original author to establish themselves in the public eye as its creator and ensure that they benefit from the first wave of sales, to help creative and innovative people to make a profit and receive credit, while also encouraging them to keep creating and innovating. It was never intended to encourage creative people to try to just create _one_ super popular idea and then sell it or milk it for enough money to retire, and then never need to come up with anything new. And it was _certainly_ never intended to create a situation where a handful of organizations could buy up most of the popular stories and characters in an entire culture, in an effort to dictate what narratives and cultural values are 'permitted' to become widespread and familiar enough to motivate large groups of people. Nor was it meant to encourage powerful organizations to actively try to undermine or usurp the popularity of old stories and characters, in an effort to actively prevent works which have entered the public domain from 'impeding demand for new products'. Stories prosper through each new generation taking the tales and characters they grew up with, then keeping the parts that resonate while updating and improving the rest. That's what creates strong bonds by which the young can connect with and share ideas with the old, and vice versa. Lifelong copyright is not only awful for artists, it's destroyed the entire premise of oral tradition which has helped bring people together for thousands of years, and made it a fortified private playground accessible only to a tiny fraction of society.

@@falleithani5411I read allat and It's true

Yes

The length of copyright should be determined by the creator or creators life in my opinion

I thought I was the only one who saw that

all that wasted potato..

I mean, he’s being forced to do it by the captain of the boat, so either he doesn’t give a crap or he’s doing a bad job out of spite.

​@@jamesrocket5616like, that's the point of the scene

That's the point of those super old cartoons.

steamboat willie

And that little mouse is so cute! He matches the rubberhose style perfectly!

Nah it would never work

@@leocharger14Are you really sure?

@@SilentX_17this character reminds me of mickey mouse!

@@dog3156 They sure do look alike

This joke is so overused and lame

Mickey has been a psycho all along. That explains a lot of things.

and don't forget the cat that was "Long Gay-Bowsered"

How about the cat chewing tobacco. He spits it in his own face lol.

Throws a potato at a bird then cackles like a phsyco 💀

As kid: 😂 As adult: 💀

😭

You wish you made it

so you are 95+ years old? hm not very likely

That and absurd levels of greed that make even the most corrupt politicians look like generous saints by comparison.

No, they just wanted to keep Mickey Mouse out of the public domain. They released ALL of the Mickey Mouse shorts on DVD in the 2000s (part of their Walt Disney Treasures line marketed to adult collectors rather than children), including "Mickey's Mellerdrama", where Mickey and his friends put on a performance of the play "Uncle Tom's Cabin" while wearing blackface. This was AFTER the Sonny Bono copyright extension act. (Too bad Bono didn't crash into that tree sooner. Maybe we could've got 1928 works into the public domain a lot sooner.)

@@evangravell5140 The corrupt politicians (e.g., Sonny Bono) are the ones that extended the copyright on behalf of Disney and other corporations.

Regardless of how Disney ended up as a company nowadays and the kind of person Walt was back then, you can not deny the cultural impact this one short created. I'm glad to see it's finally available for wider audiences because it should be appreciated in full, just for everyone to see how humble Disney's beginnings truly were.

good lord your gramps was greatest generation?, are you like in your 40s

@@jezrielbaquir3237 No, he was well into his seventies when I was born.

The very first sound film was before steamboat willie

Arguably, it is also the POINT of public domain. Releasing a given work to, the PUBLIC, to release, distribute, or otherwise make their own. I believe that there is no "transformative" component necessary with public domain works.

@@billc5557the point of the comment was not if but when theyd do it and it beeing pretty quickly

@@etnevel.naitzsirk Except that's not playing with fire, AI work can't be copyrighted (someone actually tried doing that recently for some patent and it got denied in court lmao)

Considering how often this has been a topic for them, or even has had dedicated videos about it. I would be disappointed if they did not do it.

You gotta do what you gotta do

There is none lol they just re-uploaded it

​@@happyjohn1656 It's a joke

@@Honey_Katz it's not

@@happyjohn1656 Bait

@@Honey_Katz rage

It's OUR creation ☭

This Mickey is quite a jerk, so I guess it's completely in-character.

Pretty sure we wouldn't have liked Walts dream so much

@@clay5649Walt certainly wouldn't have allowed mixed race couples on his shows

@@clay5649really? I think he had a dream that would’ve greatly benefitted society. He was about to build a whole new way to function cities until his death along with continually being an advocate for futurism. Walt today would be so ashamed to see what his company and the world has become…

​@@yitzakIrI don't think Walt would be upset primarily about that

Walt was never like that imo. He always wanted Disney to be huge since its inception

The pig one was just absurd

inb4 I'm sorry Jon: Part 2

Blood and Balls

There's a horror short already based on this and it's actually good

​@@bob5253do tell, what's the horror short name?

@@GodoftheBlessed The vanishing of S.S. Willie

Mickey back then was a lunatic

pretty accurate commentary of modern disney

@@GleysonBezerra07He still is

@@Jerry-ej9hn Kinda, but he's more family friendly nowadays

Animation here is better than alot of modern anime.

Even syncing the audio to the animation was a challenge

​@TheRenegade... the audio synching is precisely what made this groundbreaking at the time, if I'm remembering correctly

Yeah, for 1928, it is a MASTERPIECE.

​​@@zebwiz1900 Better than most modern anime tbh

I DO hope at least respectfully... Bob Igor and them are the Assholes... Poor Mickey has been made the figure head and He really doesn't have anything to do with it...

Most likely low effort shock/horror movies and games

@@silentnight6810 The horror movie has already been confirmed lol

sorry english is not my first language but what‘s the public domain everyone‘s talking about? i‘ve never heard of that term before until now

@@kuromikisser Put simply "Public Domain" is a "Story", "Character," Or in this case "Cartoon Short" that ANYONE in the PUBLIC can LEGALLY use for their own personal gain... Without the threat of legal action taken against them... Basically... You can make a story about Dracula and no one can do anything like suing you for copyright... You can NOW do this with THIS SPECIFIC cartoon... ANYTHING that you see in THIS SPECIFIC CARTOON (Steam Boat Willie Specifically) you can now do with in whatever manner you please and NOT get into legal trouble with Disney over it...

Doubt it, the animation might've been ok but the story was shite. Most Disney shorts back then were. Took another 20 years before other studios produced true entertainment, like Tom and Jerry and Loony Tunes

Give him a hundred years or two.

honestly I have this weird feeling that one day he will own a clubhouse

@@sbp1763 me too! Another thing is that I thought the mouse would be friends with a dog and two ducks, I also thought that Mickey would have a dog as a pet, I don’t know why, I just think so

@@torrestoyfun4235Really same here I also think he will have a girlfriend and then he will be public domain

😂😂😂

This is the pinnacle of „invisible CGI“ 😂

600th like

​@@MASTEROFEVIL nobody cares

@@spenzasequenzarevolutionary

Technically only this short entered the public domain, not Mickey Mouse itself. So they can use this version of Mickey, but can’t call him Mickey. That being said, if the did do “Weirdest Mickey Mouse Animation” it would probably fall under parody and be fine.

There's already a First Person Shooter named "Mouse" on the horizon.

The original is already fucked

@@RelaxRelapse720 As well, since Disney uses Mickey as their mascot (and he's registered with the USPTO -- see e.g. serial 77983520), they can still claim *trademark* protection by arguing that somebody else's use of Mickey is damaging to their brand -- even if that use doesn't violate the copyright laws.

@RelaxRelapse720 They can’t even use the original even with a new name because the character is design marked which means you can’t use any character which resembles him or any other Disney character in any new media without licensing them.

fake news

I wish I cared, but Mickey and most Disney characters have always come off as really, really weird to me lol. I'm sure this was awesome in the 20s, 30s, etc. But I really could not care less about anything Disney does anyomore. They drove me away with what they did to Star Wars lol.

Its not the first sound cartoon though

It wasn't the first sound cartoon bro💀

Actually, there were some sound cartoons from that came out a bit earlier like inkwell studios song car-tunes and dinnertime by Paul Terry, but what set steamboat Willie was the quality of the music and animation kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcWZodKhqdqriJ8.htmlsi=g9-YzN6FKwx7r0Km this came out the same year but for obvious reasons isn't as good

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha- *gets hit*

help man overboard

I was wondering why that part was missing.. Censorship our good old friend

Just when I though he coulnt be more of an asshole, he even kicks one of the piglets.

LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂

I watched this short before and didn’t realize how much of a animal abuser Mickey is

you mean 5:47 as your timestamp already flew past it

Ridiculous that it lasts that long.

​@@kamikeserpentail3778It's copyright got extended multiple times and it was supposed to be out sooner than it did

​@@commenter621 Compare the amount of money Disney spent persuading the US Government to extend copyright for their character, whit the amount they spent buying Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, ESPN, and 20th Century Fox and its assets.

Happy public domain day I think

@@Upsilon1984I guess if you think about it, every January 1st is Public Domain Day since there’s usually something getting put into the public domain each year

only in this form modern mickey is still copyright for awhile

Via parody he was always public domain.

He’ll never be as big as the Oswald the Lucky Rabbit!!!

Isn’t that Mickey Mouse

That I do agree! ​@@doesnt_exist_

What happened

I thought Mickey was Disney

And maybe add a goofy side character.

Maybe add a duck with anger issues and a speech impediment

Give him a dog, too.

Maybe a girlfriend too for the duck

And maybe give Willie a girlfriend

The fact that Disney execs are probably tearing their skin right now over losing exclusivity rights makes it icing on the cake. 😂

​@@Halcon_Sierreno😂😂😂

also more funny

@@Halcon_Sierreno I don't see how anyone can look at the last decade with Disney and think the execs are doing anything but cheering that this might destroy the last remnant of what Walt Disney started.

Believe me, they’ve lost zilch, Mickey still can’t be used commercially by anyone else due to trademark law. He’s a design mark now and copyright doesn’t matter it only affects the company’s abandoned works, not it’s characters.

who the hell is mickey bro this is steamboat willie

​@@lechute8635I think steam boat Willie is the big guy who bullies him off the bridge

A lot of these early cartoons are a bit wild compared to today, mainly because of Mickey's status as a mascot.

​@@KeybladeMasterAndy "What you mean wild? This is just how we boys act back then." - 👴