It’s was like 1 and a half-

@Nina Tote it’s already a meme

LunaTheProgrammer its really only a buff to Jiren or presets with Power Rush, other wise it’s still pretty useless now

Cab is always negative unless something is overpowered but then complains when it's overpowered. Everyone using blue evolution and meditation together and not calling it op is a complete lier. If anything the nerf will make the game better IMO cuz now people will put less points into damage and more into ki to actually use meditation effectively

Zeno that’s all a pvp perspective I just want to use my damn fucking ssbe in pve without having to spam meditation

@@cleanfresh6718 meditation works the way it should. You calm down,stop fighting and meditate. No one goes from meditating into turning into god and trying to kill someone. It's better this way

Zeno by the time I charge up my ki or get it to 10 bars I will have wasted 10 secs of my meditation. Literally it really doesn’t even last 20 secs if you take that stuff into account. It’s beyond a nerf if you ask me, the skill is now practically useless

This comment though

Fr, those little squeakers

I WANNA SEE MORE COOL ATTACKS!

Underrated opinion. Deserves more attention.

Big facts

Guy: any last words? Jiren: *WHATS WRONG?*

Jiren in a restaurant: Give me something I've never tasted before Goku: Defeat

Thats a classic goku cmon

WHATS WRONG with that?

Exactly my dude. It nerfs the 1-hit ko builds,the elder Kai soul spammers AND balances blue evolution all at once

Hahah I rarely use it

@@Zenoferrum Stop being PvP-minded for once and think about the PvE players who have a fucking reason to hate the nerf

@@pauldelol6064 so use divinity unleased. It's a ki charger,its buff gives the same ki gain if not more than meditation and it's almost half as fast to activate the buff.

@@pauldelol6064 PvP is how xv2 stays going

Michele Porco the thing is jiren is really strong tho so it makes sense

@@hollowbozo6915 fighterz says otherwise

I dont think they were trying to nerf him. I had noticed meditation had a faster ki regen rate the first moment after the update. I think they did this on purpose. They wanted meditation to be used for big ults and not for maintaining blue. Tho it still can recover your ki for blue for you much better then before...its just you dont get to keep the full ki for long.

@@Peanutbutter_madden you can combine the super soul which increases your max ki and stam to use meditation to mantain blue.

I'm pretty sure the nerf was meant for CACs with unlimited super armor and shit.

Unless it's super armour limit burst

@@theninja2k14 you still take the damage, you just won't fly back after the last punch

@@fengmin9762 yeah but then you can break their stamina

* Uses evasive * * Gets punched in the face for 10,000 damage anyway and becomes butthurt enough to use a Z capsule *

You're talking about the leg raise one aren't you raiden. -Insert Spongebob voice here-

@@ultimusxv1490 yup😁

UltimusXV1 what combo is that

@@andywu1981 Look up an android 21 combo test and you'll see it cause I honestly can't think of the button input rn but basically she kicks you away then raised her leg and kicks you pretty hard to the ground

RAIDEN 17 what does it look like?

You can’t just call me out like that.

Ok now you gotta catch these hands cuz

Ay man watch yo back meat

ItS nOt oVeR yEt

Steedaddy/Someone: He did it! He said it! :-D *Honk blow horns*

@ZaCreeze 103 Calm down.

@ZaCreeze 103 Calm down

ZaCreeze 103 thank you

ZaCreeze 103 why are you so mad over a comment?

Bruh when I saw that i was amazed

Does slightly more damage than the regular version too

Panic from a stamina break prob, people are hardwired to do that.

@@kyotanaka920 honestly that makes sense. People just LB when they get hit by a stm break and hope for the best. They never read what it does; if he didn't use it he wouldn't have gotten the lower defense so he might've survived with like, 10 health.

Or just time it right lmao

Yea it was actually excellent full course that caused it if people paid attention maybe we wouldn’t be here..also if dimps as smart too that’d help

Anthony Woertz its funny because since meditation got nerfed everyone has went out there way to find a 1 shot kill which they did and it’s guaranteed as long as you have quick hands. Most that can happen if you get stamina broke but it still hits if you do

@@Tordecai616 meditation is useless now. They could've simply patched the glitch.

@@masonlomas967 agreed, and the moves that actually needed a nerf didnt get it, They could have given the cancels, such as ki cancel and strike cancel (xy's) some sort of cooldown (or recovery time) but they didnt I love the game but when you get chessed is not fun

@@physicainstinct3909 Yeah so the wasted time on part of a update for no reason instead of fixing the actual problems.

*gives custom jiren Justice combo*

That ki storm he created after toppo speech would be great

Dimps gives him an awoken skill like they did Hit.

Ffs they just needa add SSG and Trunks’ Time Patroller clothes!

A proper ki blast finisher and not a default one

ah yes a man of culture...

I like letting noobs take items an i don't take them so it makes it a closer match.

At least you’re a good sport.

I find it stupid but that's just me

Wether it be pvp or pve, I never can pull off power rush in 20 seconds. I need 40 at least considering the enemy usually just waits it out via passive and defensive play.

Well it seems more like for CAC you may now just need higher base ki, break stamina THEN Meditation and then combo into PR instead of just setting up Meditation early on and just able to casually fight for the most part (since old 1 min timer was pretty much whole match if done right) Now.. it being 20 seconds was way to much of a nerf.. like if they wanted to nerf it.. maybe only shave off a few seconds (ie 45-50 seconds instead) because now any blue form it harder to maintain.. plus just being able to grind PQs is more annoying

You do realize the cheese builds weren’t cause of meditation right? It was cause of excellent full course glitching the power ups so no there really was no need to change it

Who even cares about “cheese builds” in PvE??? It was a PvE move and it’s not viable at all now

Plus all they really had to do was make it so that Meditation did not stack with any other reinforcement skill in the game.

Rip my ui build

They didn’t need to nerf this move though like it’s basically useless now. At the very least nerf it for cac but don’t nerf it for Jiren he needs it

Yes, it did...

@@masonlomas967 no!! not you!! brother...

Dear God no😂

This meditation "nerf" is full power Jiren now.

How bout now

@@disu317 called it lol

Sucks for helping maintain the blue forms cause that’s the main thing it was used for on cacs

Is that supposed a downside to it? Knockback into meditation. I mean I don't see a problem with stopping your combo to use a skill that almost guarantees a one shot when combined with an attack like power rush. If anything, I see this move as Op. I mean would you rather have a move that essentially every single person in the game could cheese and activate mid combo and follow it up with a super? Or would you actually have it balanced having to force you to get some space between you and your opponent for a good 5 secs so you can activate it.

@@anthonywoertz8762 what dude goes from meditating to turning into a god and trying to kill someone? Not even jiren did that and he's the only guy who properly meditated in all of Super.

@@PlutoMade exactly. If you want use meditation you have to not fight and use it. If you meditate and then try fighting someone irl that defeats the purpose of meditating so this is alot more accurate to proper meditation

@@Zenoferrum Who cares about meditation being "accurate" your comment is just stupid no matter how many times you spam it

Use a qq bang with +5 in ki and use krillins super soul u will have 10 bars of ki with 0 points in ki And also use divinity unleashed

Get a 6 star qq bang that either boosts ki or doesn’t touch it, equip “time for a little nap” then divinity unleashed. More ki regen than meditation (meditation’s ki regen buff was only for Jiren last I checked. I checked on a base form earthling, a race with a passive racial bonus of ki regen, and the ki regen was not even close to Jiren’s meditation when I beat up the testing dummy) and you don’t need meditation to make up for a negative ki qq bang. This update made Blue and BEvolved users even more dangerous, and somewhat more annoying since they can just yeet the enemy away when they run out of divinity unleashed fuel.

@@basketbomberslackingson4417 Getting divinity unleashed is hell. I still don't have it no matter how many times I get a Z Rank.

Combine that, with the "haaa" super soul, you can charge ki so fast with burst charge. It's honestly bonkers and I love it.

@@HeisBeppo yup! Also, the super soul that gives auto ki regen when turning blue evolution. Or "this super saiyan 2 is crazy strong!" So many wicked combinations!

Sucks for blue though

@@anthonywoertz8762 even still, not all that much. The ki regen is so quick you will be getting ki back while attacking and being attacked. Especially if coupled with something like Android #18's super soul that grants ki regen. There's ways to work it. Cuz Cabby showcased that you do lose ki in Blue if you are standing still... but even just jump and vanish around... you'll see what I mean. Play around with it in practice mode

@@anthonywoertz8762 doesn't. With ssbe burst charge and "this is all I've got" super soul you pretty much have an unlimited supply of ki for the first minute you have ssbe on

wait who's super sould is that and how do i unlock it? i have beerus' "hmph. i'm off to take a nap" super soul and now you have my attention

@@natahtakaizumi1987 Sorry for late. You will find this super soul on Tp medal shop. It's a level 4 super soul.

@@natahtakaizumi1987 also it's not available everyday. So keep checking when it's there. I unlocked it long ago so i don't remember the day it was. Sorry for that.

@@nuhashrahman8408 is it possible to gift super souls like that? (or super souls in general)

@@natahtakaizumi1987 super souls section. not gift.

I did that too. I have no idea what the fuck anyone else in the comment section is talking about.

Meditation was double edged sword in PVP and while it really helped maintaining Blue and Evolution, people kept using it to cheese by stacking it with FPK which was rampant online.

@@RogueFox2185 online portion of xenoverse 2 isn't really good anyway

The Ki gain with the perfect blocks is just Jiren's super soul.

Jiren's Super Soul gives extra Ki when you perfect block.

Dunno why he uses Nergi's theme but I can see why he sometimes uses Alatreon's. After all they are great themes and playing MH with him is also just a blast

@@lunardreams4440 Yeah. MH does have good themes. I just want to watch him fight while also using different themes from MH lol.

Last 20 seconds ?

@@anthonywoertz8762 massive ki gain under meditation.

@@anthonywoertz8762 lasts 20 seconds but fast auto ki regen and faster ki regain when you attack someone

I used it for blue evolution, so it's trash now

Yeah...You don't get it

@@zelohendricks51 get what

I kinda needed the minute to sustain ssbe so my moves could do as much damage as possible without worrying about dropping out of the state but now I cant even do as much as I did before the nerf

That wasn’t cause of meditation that was a glitch that worked with any power up caused my excellent full course , they didn’t need to nerf meditation

Anthony Woertz yeah exactly like they should’ve Nerfed that excellent full course nonsense and kept meditation how it was like I was a really good move for builds but now it’s just meh

@@anthonywoertz8762 they should've gone for a different nerf. Make it unusable with other reinforcements, such as poses

Made Max Ki a useless stat, wym? It was broken even without taking into consideration the stacking of buffs

@@bwebbuva9785 mate I had a namekian that didn't even have 5 bars. And meditation got me to that level as I had potential unleashed, and after the update I was forced to use the dragon balls and increase his ki. It's not like it doesn't give you a full 10 bars, it has to build up to 10 bars, and by the time it takes for my namekian to charge, 10+ would've already gone by.

Yes but it's now a restand like ki blast cannon and can combo immediately after it now

I really like him to. But I fully understand why people dislike him.

You just put yourself in the coffin

@@pegase3653 i mean its his opinion

Yeah i wish they added a shirtless bigger "awoken" form or some sort of transformation skill that gives him the red eyes and the reddish ultra instinct aura, but hey i still really like him

Personally I think he’s kinda lame, Toppo is a better character in my eyes.