Never forget to put Mosin on full power mode before shooting.

Good video. Nice to see someone who isn't sponsored by an armor company talk about armor reasonably.

That would have been hilarious if it cracked when it fell.. "Steel wins!" 🤣

Best, wittiest, informative, interesting firearms channel, second to none! 😎

You guys don’t miss! This isn’t the first video I’ve seen on ballistic plates testing / comparison, but it’s def one of the best. Something about how you guys present your videos and how you conduct the activities that just click with regular/simple guys like me. 👍🏼👍🏼

Nice Experiments! Can you do more test on spalling (I hope this is the correct spelling) by placing clay or ballistic gel around the plate? May to rolls of clay representing arms and a ball of clay hanging from the ceiling representing head? This would be nice.

A very important thing that was missed is "glancing shots". Ceramic will capture the round, steel will deflect. If you get hit at an upward glancing angle, that round is going to hit your neck or under-side of your head which = severe wounds if not death. I hear Polythylene is the way to go.

My wife has steel plates and I built a form and covered them with a 1/4” of epoxy. I tested it on an old steel plate I had and it swallows up the spalling great.

Great video and very intelligent analysis. Thanks for the mention. There is no perfect armor, every plate has it's advantages and disadvantages. We've always recommended owning as many types of armor as you can. Cheers.

A great comparison of steel and ceramic ballistic plates with interesting results. Thank you for sharing!

(double thumbs up) Very informative and diplomatic approach to subject of steel vs composite subject! If there are more of these unbias videos it would be interesting to see what would happen with high velocity ammo and where applicable energy distribution/penertration/spall with backing/trauma-pad or assosiated soft armour fillers on appropriate PPE platforms.

I have mentioned this a couple of times In the comments below. What you really need to do is test steel plates inside the carrier to actually test the true danger of spalling. What I have seen, as an individual who professionally has to rate and recommend PPE for my companies client to purchase, is that ceramic plate fans/companies only show the bare steel plate being hit on video then claiming the resulting spalling will kill the wearer. Which might be true if the wearer taped the bare plates, even with the coatings, directly to their chest. In actuality the plate and the carrier are actually a system working together to protect the wearer.

Still happy with my AR-600 Steel Ops plate. With a wonderful spall coating.

I bought ceramic and never looked back. If you actually go out and train you know why. Mobility is everything. My old steel plates (AR500 series A, with 6x6 side plates) with "full build-up" of anti-spall weighed just over 24lbs. My medium size Hoplite level 4 SAPIs with 6x6 side plates come in at 18.5lbs. Trust me, that 5.5lbs makes a HUGE difference. If you're a hiker, you'll understand how just mere ounces of weight make a difference. Same concept applies here. Direction changes are faster and require less energy. Getting up from prone or kneeling is faster and requires less energy. There's less momentum to contend with. Over the course of a day all of that adds up and you'll be glad you spent the extra money on ceramic plates. But I guess you can't really appreciate the difference unless you've suffered the weight of steel plates lol

Best intro I’ve see in awhile! Bravo.

for the fragmentation issue couldn't someone make a simple kevlar sleeve/cover to zip up around the plate?

I think this is the best "study" video yet. Short funny intro, succinct commentary that gets to the point and the layout of the tests is almost clinical. Thumbs up!

so what is actual weight difference on those 2 plates? I wonder if some over layer (like a wet suit -elastic) or the spall guard for steel would keep ceramic fragments captured in armor, pieces better than a void, that's why gravel,sand good barriers as long as they don't spill out

Really helpful. Knowing Steel is heavier, I'd probably get a good anti-spalling steel plate, if I had the choice.

This was a great video! Thanks for giving steel plates some credit. They're a great option for people who may not have the best access to such things. Or, who may not have options to replacement plates in the future, can't store them in ideal conditions, etc.

In my experience (Afghanistan 06-07,08,2010) a hit to the plate is pretty rare most folks get hit in the head,neck,arms or shoulders. Also if you get hit more than once in the chest you're probably shot all to shit anyway.

Very good presentation and extremely proud of the Greek manufacturer

The box check for ricochet and spall is good, always pay attention to straight up as you noted, but also low left and right. As in toward the inside of the thighs. Same problems in those areas. As for ceramic (and to show the difference between steel), something like the test you did trying to move yourselves along on the skateboard via recoil might be helpful. The dispersion of energy between different grades of ceramic is quite substantial, and the total difference between steel and ceramic again is massive. Giving people a relative understanding of impact force beyond clay cavities can be pretty helpful, even if it seems like a gimpy way to do it.

Nyet! Steel is fine. Heavy, but thin too. Thanks for the share!!

I love this channel... I came for the Ian interviews but I've stayed for Ziga.

Paraphrasing the Riddle of Steel: "No one in this world can you trust. Not men, not plastic weapons, not ceramic vests. But this (steel), you can trust".

"Nothing is black or white" he says while standing next to a black plate and a white plate 😂

This video was super awesome and informative. In my opinion I would much rather wear either than nothing in a combat scenario.

The intro was literally what steel plate people think will happen in a firefight I was one of those people, but also knew I'd probably take shots to other parts, so I at least had meds, until I got ceramics

The power-up lever on the Mosin is a secret. . .

Your carrier is just as important, plus the sleeves you can get for your steel to stop spalling. Great video

Very well done video PT crew. The key point with anything regarding Body Armor is that if you're taking hits in the plate, you're already in a VERY bad position, and are now in survival mode. You are absolutely right in saying that anti-spall coatings can make or break a Steel Plate's protection capabilities, they need to be built up to both mitigate multiple hits' spall factors as much as sustaining the longevity of the Steel-- and there are many different proprietary coatings that various manufacturers and retailers use, some perform much better than others. There are also AR550 and AR600 Steel plates on the market that hold up even a little better against AP and other rounds on the top cusp or beyond NIJ rating standards.

Finally, a video not sponsored by AR500 or Spartan.

Always interesting. Ian and karl have done some "similar" tests on inrangetv as well. Your video and theirs are always instructive. I love you guys.i wish to be able to buy you a good drink soon in slovenia.

Thank you for caveating the shrapnel !

That ending LOOOL I appreciate the effort from him

I have a carrier with 12x15 plates front and back. Hefty but durable, also serves as a boat anchor lol

Love the Mosin power-up, that's immediately meme-worthy. :)

up to 20 yrds XM193 ball (FMJ) shot from 20" will go trough lvlIII plate all day long

This is the type of content I like the most. TY dudes.

Nice video, about what I expected from ceramic armor! I would Love to have that M76!

Thank you for doing this video. Some people certainly needed this reality check.

So basically, wear the composite plate over top of the steel plate, in your carrier. Done👌🏻

Just 10s into this video, I'm already laughing. 😆. Love the sword sound when he took out the gun.

I understood that reference! 00:10

Buddy has a 22-250 and shot it at 1/4 AR500 steel and it made one hell of a dent. That little 55g round going 5,000 fps does some work. Oh yeah my buddy was told to never shoot the steel with his rifle again.

Not only can the spawling hit your neck, which is a very difficult place to patch up especially if the artery is hit. The spawling can also go into your armpits and hit arteries there if your arms are pointed forwards for example when aiming a rifle or a handgun. As well depending on your stance the spawling that goes down can do some real damage as there are also arteries in your legs and some other strategic things down there.

I always have watching your vídeos, keep doing this excellent work.

Excellent video as always.

You know the video is going to be good when it starts out with Mosin Pinky.

That 2000m shot would've been shouldered against balls. What? What

Bulk vs weight is the short answer with a side of cost vs effectiveness and the fact that a rust steel plate is still 100% effective vs a 12 year old ceramic plate that has suffered from age related adhesive deterioration, (only really effects multiple hit capacity as a single hit will still be 99% as effective as brand new).

Tasty intro. Felt like a 12 year old again

Good video. We once tested plate from aliexpress, it was made from some kind of polyethylene - stopped pistols and shotguns, but deformation was bad.

I definitely like this style of video I just wish I could’ve seen the name of that body armor lol

It sounded like you said "ceramic sharts" and I chuckled.

If it isnt anti-spall put some kevlar sheets on the front face of the plate

Ceramic Ballistic is best plate, fight me Ziga

Great work 👍

Always move your range slide up to 800 so it shoots harder

Great vdo! I dig all your content! Keep it creative with funny dark humor like you already do! You are one of my favorite youbee toobee channel's to check out!

Great video as always

Another great video from you guys!

Shocked at the cavity in clay behind the steel plates with the larger rounds😳

Best eastern european youtube channel! 😍

that intro made me give you already a thumbs up!

Very great test video. For information, Ballistic test with 5.45 are very uncommon, and in a video of garandthumb, the bullet did not went thought a level 3a plate which is surprising. It can be useful to know these days...

I have a question : siamidis IV plate managed to stop 7.62 NATO or it failed ?

Good old powering up your rifle Zimbawie style

Those videos are indeed interesting, thank you !

If I had a nickel every time I’ve heard “a hit to the same hole twice is very unlikely” I would have some nickels

Solid video well done!

So always double tap a ceramic? Nice good video, as always. Thumbs up

BTW, those somebody from your crew dives a black Volvo XC90? Because I saw one on Island Krk in Croatia with your channel logo on the back...

Nikita from BSG should take notes.

Clicked this video for the M76, that's not one you see everyday in any firearm related videos

I always wanted a thing steel plate covered in ceramic. I bet it'd be tough as shit and ten pounds

Okay okay, that held 7.62x51 I knew. BUT WHEN HE TAKES THE MOSIN, AND PUT THE SHOT INTO THE ALREADY WORN OUT PLATE, AND IN LESS THAN 10 METERS, AND IT SAFE, Oh I really got lost. First time I see someone testing a caliber like that, and the most impressive thing is to see that the board stays until it's safe. My congratulations for the video, very cool.

Informative 👏🏾👍🏾👊🏾

i think steel is still fine to get as long as you have a good fragmentation coating.

Love to see more armor videos test 20" AR's with M193.

Thank you for the information

We do a science

In my opinion you need a the 2 plates the ceramic in the front and the steel back.

How about green tip M855 out of 20" AR 15 for the lvl III steel plate?

everone knows putting your mosin sight all the way up makes it shoot harder

In my opinion, they really ought to add a small ledge on steel plates to deflect spall away from the wearer. The ledge should at least be on the top edge, and only needs to extend a little bit, but that could keep spall from hitting you in the most vital areas.

The hate for steel probably started when the sponsorship dollars stopped lol

id like to see some composite armour with a hardened steal sheet in the center of ceramic plates with some Kevlar In between layers

Very interesting, thanks sir.

0:09 Volley fire brilliant lolz

Also company said THAT PLATE PROTECTS TILL 7.62X51MM not by 8MMmauser and 7.62×54R

Love the cool scifi intro

I have a local armor company that sells steel plates, but only with a Kevlar sleeve that the plate goes into. In their own words "dura coat is shit and will get you killed. I'd never trust my life with that type of coating." They also sell Ceramic and PE plates. They said that in their testing, which they had a video to demonstrate, showed that the kevlar wrap worked at a much higher efficiency compared to the spall coating, plus the kevlar is also a backer and functions as a trauma pad. They even had the plate carriers they tested this on with them. In the end, it's up to you what you want to use. I personally use Ceramic and will probably try a set of PE plates to see which I prefer.

Keep it up you brimg fun to relavant issues. to me the take away is that steel plates are more reuseable than ceramic, unless you plan on duct taping it after your firefight. of course if it saved your life you probably will gladly just replace it 🙏

Why isnt there a little metallic spaul? Deflector built into the plate? Like how knights used to have a little deflector under their neck around the collar bone

If while wearing ushanka, you wear flaps around chin correctly. You don't have to worry about spaulding.

Great vid.

Always good content

It would be cool if those steel plates had some kind of deflector lips on some of their edges, like around the neck, shoulders and thighs, to save against spalls and ricochets going up into your jaw or down into your legs etc.