Thank you, hope it was helpful! - RG

Would love to hear your feedback after you get the Gesture! Thanks for sharing -Greg

Good move by Microsoft!

@@btodtv Received my Gesture yesterday, and I love it! Even though I watched tons of Gesture vids from you guys and some other sources, some stuff still surprised me (mostly positive). The quality of materials used is clearly superb and robust. The hardness of the cushion is perfect for me, it's more hard than soft, but still extremely comfortable. I've been sitting on it for hours in a row already, and not a single pain (not even the tailbone region you guys warned about for the Gesture). The headrest positioning and sturdiness is the best I've ever had in a chair's headrest. The edge of the seat is so soft and flexible that sitting cross-legged is no issue either. The pads on the armrests are like you guys said superb as well, they're hard to the touch (with a slight hint of softness), but somehow you never feel any of that hardness (not even the edges) when you rest your arms on them; it's insanely comfortable. The lumbar support also feels great, it's really helping me stay much better in an ergonomic position compared to any chair I've had before. (And I love how your lumbar remains supported when you lean back.) Some other points I'd like to specifically point out (got mixed feelings about those, but not negative, it's more something I have to get used to I think): 1. It requires quite a bit more strength than I expected to move the armrests around (but then again, that does make it feel extremely sturdy). 2. In certain positions, the headrest tends to make quite some squeaking noises when leaning against it (I solve it by moving it into positions where it doesn't squeak as much). 3. I also took the optional lumbar support, sometimes its feel good, sometimes I don't feel it at all, and sometimes it feels like it's hurting my back a little. Not sure yet what to think about it (maybe I just have to find the right position still), but that's not such a big issue because I only experience it in very specific positions. The thing I'm most curious about now is whether the chair will truly (comfortably) last 12+ years. I had a 1000$ Xenium before this one (which adheres to multiple ergonomic certifications/standards in my country) and that chair was fine at first (Gesture feels better from the get-go though), but that chair quickly became uncomfortable after about 2 years (seat pad turned soft over time, causing you to hit the plastic bottom, ouch) and that chair made squeaking sounds from all sides eventually :-) Anyway to conclude: At first I was a bit skeptical about the price of the Gesture, but I'm now convinced that the Gesture's price is fair/justifiable. Even my previous (expensive) chair feels like a standard, non-ergonomic office chair now that I've experienced this one. I have no regrets buying it, absolutely worth it.

Yeah, it looks like that fabric pad they added solves the mesh comfort issue, but it makes the chair more difficult to clean.

If you want a mesh chair, then the Mirra 2, Aeron size C and Zody are great choices. But if you want fabric cushion chairs then the Leap v2, Gesture and Fern are great choices.

Yes, they should be -Greg

Got mine from the Steelcase UK store after about 3 weeks wait, and initially am quite happy with it to be honest - am coming from an Aeron size C myself and can definitely feel the missing few inches on the seat, but it's not unusable or anything. Definitely a lower mesh quality than the Aeron but I much prefer Steelcase's "live back" over the posturefit, though going to be personal preference there :P

I am 5'11" have a bad back but live in the desert so mesh would be nice. Is this a good option for me?

The safest chair I would recommend is the Steelcase Leap. I say safest because it's the most likely to be comfortable for everyone. I also am a fan of the Aeron (size C) if you prefer the more rocking smooth recline. - Guy in the video

If you want to stay with an all-mesh chair then I would look at an Aeron. You might be between the size B and C. If you want to save some $ then the new Ergohuman is also an option. Both of these chairs will have larger seat depth. - RG

​@Charles13X Ahnestly had great things to say about it, but I'm pretty sure he's a soulless shill nowadays. I want BTOD to review the Anthros chair so that they can dispel any myths about it.

I don't think they should review a chair from a company that purposely deletes negative reviews of their products on Amazon and apparently their own website.

They're not missing a tilt lock, as they have a far superior tilt limiter mechanism. Any good ergonomic chair will never have a mechanism that locks you into a recline position because that's terrible for your back health.

Much like you are not able to access stuff from the USA, we unfortunately cannot access most products available in EU/Scandinavia. When their distribution into our market gets better, we plan to review more of those products -Greg

@@btodtv Yeah, I was interested in the Kinnarps Plus, but they're difficult to find outside of the EU. Why no one else has made a height-adjustable back rest is beyond me. I think a height-adjustable back rest with adjustable lumbar support depth makes a lot more sense than sliding a lump of extra material up and down a fixed back rest. (I don't know if the Plus has adjustable lumbar support depth, probably not, but that would seem like the ideal design to me.) Anyway, they do have a distributor in Austin, TX, so maybe they wouldn't be impossible to get ahold of, especially for a retailer? Although, I recently ordered a Gesture. I was interested in the Karman, but without the ability to try the chair first, I decided not to place my hopes in the Karman's seat frame being comfortable enough for me.

@@jc3drums916 Ordered a Gesture on black friday as well, expecting it to arrive within 1-2 weeks :D

Have you looked at HAG, Kinnarps and Interstuhl?

I sit a bit above 200 and the BTOD refurbed Amia is a pretty darn good chair, especially once you've dialed in the recline resistance juuuuust right.

Height too. Beyond 6'1"/6'2", you're in the Shadow Realm of office chairs. What big chair seller, if you don't mind me asking?

@@JohnSmith-zn4uf I meant it more at volume - I edited my comment. The chair in question is advertised for big and tall people, but that's not really what I meant.

Who is paying people to remove bad reviews? -Greg

@@btodtv Sihoo

There are, but it depends on where you live. In the UK, there are multiple authorised dealers for Herman Miller and Steelcase across the country.

I think it is #chair...haha -Greg