Deep Dive Into Commercial RTK GPS - Do I really need it? Comprehensive Guide

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Steel City Drones

Steel City Drones

Күн бұрын

01:48 How consumer GPS works and its limitations
03:27 Accuracy considerations for mapping
04:12 How the compass affects drone flight safety
05:55 How RTK improves Wind Performance
07:05 Full breakdown of how RTK works
08:14 DRTK2 base station
08:29 NTRIP - Advantages and Disadvantages
09:36 What if RTK signal is lost in flight?
10:49 Are third party base stations compatible?
11:25 Difference between 1 and 2 Puck Antenna systems
13:20 Does the drone need Line of Sight to the Sky?
14:26 Why RTK does not help with Cell tower signal-safety issues
16:27 Onsite Training Options and Promo Video

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@ernesthorn1535
@ernesthorn1535 Жыл бұрын
I would say this is the best video I have found on our TK technology. Thanks very much for the hard work and putting this together.
@ChasingDaylightStudio
@ChasingDaylightStudio 2 ай бұрын
I learned SO much from watching this video. I’ve been very confused about the different kinds of enterprise drones and RTK.
@imecoint
@imecoint Жыл бұрын
For anyone seeking to understand RTK technology, this video serves as an indispensable resource. The video’s presenter does an exceptional job of breaking down the intricate principles behind RTK, making the concept accessible to novices and experts alike. The concise explanations, coupled with graphics, ensure that viewers can grasp the core concepts in an engaging way. Thanks!
@nojusticenopeace8717
@nojusticenopeace8717 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos mate, the way you talk I can understand very well, clear, calm, paused way to talk, knowledgeable and experienced man! Plus a good training and with the rights tools, equipments, live training in a real situation, like a specific scenario for leaner. Thanks mate from Australia, I wish over here we could have training like that!
@Daniboy370
@Daniboy370 2 ай бұрын
This video is valuable for its blend of technical depth and simplified explanations
@muhammadshahfaridullahkhan4252
@muhammadshahfaridullahkhan4252 11 күн бұрын
Explained in the best possible way!
@grahamdaly1314
@grahamdaly1314 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your information David.
@jcinewilliams8819
@jcinewilliams8819 Жыл бұрын
This was needed. Thank you.
@zwiftfrance
@zwiftfrance Жыл бұрын
Great video again.
@emranmoustafa9593
@emranmoustafa9593 Жыл бұрын
Great video! So extensive and honest. Very good.
@jessyblue863
@jessyblue863 Жыл бұрын
I can understand you and I also completed watching. Very good.
@themosaito
@themosaito 5 ай бұрын
Great video. So much useful information. Thank you so much!
@kinger355
@kinger355 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I haven't seen anyone that explains how drones work as good as Steel City. It's easy to see why Steel City Drones sets themselves apart from other vendors.
@AlfredoLau
@AlfredoLau Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@Cw7003
@Cw7003 Жыл бұрын
Wow I finally understand. Thank you for the video. I just bought a Mavic 3 e with rtk module and got ahold of a ntrip provider and he is giving me a demo. He asked me what size of SIM card I need and it really through me off. I think I get it now from this video so thank you. P.s. your mobile monitor stations looks like the cats meow. Everything you guys are doing looks great and we will be doing business in the future.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Just FYI: The Network SIM dongles you see for the smart controllers are not FCC compliant (legal). Also DJI does not support them in the NA versions.
@DakarBlues
@DakarBlues Жыл бұрын
Do you have a base station?
@razoraerialproductions2959
@razoraerialproductions2959 Жыл бұрын
Great Video for sure David !
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@correobasura39
@correobasura39 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@lifeflytours3604
@lifeflytours3604 4 ай бұрын
Muchas gracias muy buen video. Ahora tengo más claro todo.
@christophermiller987
@christophermiller987 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation ! Thnx !!
@HarmonicaVibes
@HarmonicaVibes 5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the information..
@JavierGonzalez-ot3uy
@JavierGonzalez-ot3uy 7 ай бұрын
Great video and info on all of this. It's always great to learn.. do you have a video on explaining thermal camera drone and their differences from one to another?
@mekdemltd
@mekdemltd 4 күн бұрын
THANK YOU for your clarity. This is the best video we have found on this subject. The only thing additional I would want to heard is are GCPs necessary if you have the D-RTK and Matrice 350 RTK package even as a backup?
@PilotJona
@PilotJona Ай бұрын
Im an airplane pilot and also part 107 pilot and basically RTK is like an airplane’s WAAS but for drones. Good stuff, thanks for the info
@OliverHinz
@OliverHinz 2 ай бұрын
Perfect video 4 days before probably purchasing one
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 2 ай бұрын
Great to hear. If we can help you with a drone purchase please let us know. We offer 24/7 tech support after the sale and free tutorial videos for all enterprise drones.
@OliverHinz
@OliverHinz 2 ай бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones I guess the delivery to Switzerland might be tricky, but in general I likely will use your videos :)
@ELBDRONES
@ELBDRONES 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if it was mentioned but its critical that the base station be placed on a known location. Which is why I'm going with NTRIP so I don't have to worry about that. Great video btw!
@ceptualfusion1218
@ceptualfusion1218 8 ай бұрын
You may consider post processing. Ntrip gnss may be very far away which prevents trustable fixes and coordinate information.
@limelightmuskoka
@limelightmuskoka Жыл бұрын
I prefer the M30 but it is inferior to the E3 for mapping. Why put two pucks in an inferior drone that cost so much more?
@alastairjohn3010
@alastairjohn3010 Жыл бұрын
good video
@awolffromamongus875
@awolffromamongus875 Жыл бұрын
Great video. But now I know more, I have more questions. How close is too close for 1PUK ? Is there a specific distance from differing voltage lines? And same for heavy steel buildings?
@waitomusic3710
@waitomusic3710 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Question, are ground control points needed if you are using the RTK module with NTRIP or base station? Also the the M3 Enterprise RTK compatible with 3rd party base stations?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Many factors go into it such as if you are using terrain following, and how much elevation change there is in the project. You can get away without using GCP's if you use NTRIP and have flat elevation. But you always should be using check shots to validate your data. I have no experience using the M3 with RTK and 3rd party base stations. Best advice is to ask the manufacturer of the station.
@abdulrazaqsalaudeen8682
@abdulrazaqsalaudeen8682 Жыл бұрын
Good video, please can the drone use the normal DGPS base station for work ie Hi Target V30 plus as a base station?
@Gsquared_08
@Gsquared_08 Жыл бұрын
Great explaination of RTK as well as explaining the differences between the Mavic 3 Enterprise series and the Matrice. I plan on purchasing the M3T in March to get into commercial aerial thermal inspections as well as signing up with SAR organizations for my region and yes, I will be getting properly trained and certified for both. My question is, even though I'm not using the drone for surveying, can the 3T still benefit from an RTK module or is it overkill?
@70epictetus
@70epictetus 11 ай бұрын
May I ask where you’re getting your training for SAR and Thermal? Will you be doing this online or in person? Thanks!
@chaseg.2592
@chaseg.2592 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any good advice for using the D-RTK2 on a known point, and processing through PIX4DMatic? I am located in Virginia and have tried many times to set a point utilizing our GPS so I know the datum, and then set the D-RTK2 up on it. When I process it and check it to our GP points they are off 3-5' Horz. and vertically over 100'. Thanks for the help! Great videos!
@frankc.9853
@frankc.9853 Жыл бұрын
Great information! Two questions come to mind... If I want to do mainly roof inspections, would the 3E (with no RTK) be useful as far as the zoom capabilities or is there a better option for that area of expertise?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
That would be a good option.
@mahimahmed8601
@mahimahmed8601 9 ай бұрын
Hello! I want to get a online training session from you. How can I get this training?
@tessatshi8741
@tessatshi8741 Жыл бұрын
Hi David. I have always wondered if setting up the DRTK base really makes a difference in terms of accuracy because I realized that one will still need GCPs. May you please explain the significance of using the RTK drone vs just a non RTK(normal GNSS mode). Thank you
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Yes we cover that in the video. 04:12 How the compass affects drone flight safety 05:55 How RTK improves Wind Performance
@tessatshi8741
@tessatshi8741 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave! Had to to re-watch. It makes sense now. Big thanks !
@limelightmuskoka
@limelightmuskoka Жыл бұрын
How does/will the additional 4G module help the Mavic 3 Enterprise in the mentioned hazards, bridges and dish towers?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
It doesn't, its illegal to use in the US.
@user-tn9pu8gp1n
@user-tn9pu8gp1n 6 ай бұрын
Rather than running software for mapping, can the MAVIC multi spectral take a photo from say 300’ and capture a single multispectural photo. Or, does everything need to be processed?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 6 ай бұрын
You only need processing if you are stitching multiple images together.
@Brad000
@Brad000 Жыл бұрын
So i have a Mavic 3E with RTK module. I can use the RTK module with Ohio’s NTRIP (CORS) Network and not need the D-RTK2?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Yes that is correct. You need either NTRIP or DRTK2 base station, not both.
@limelightmuskoka
@limelightmuskoka Жыл бұрын
Why did the 2 puck RTK, M30 get handicapped with an Electronic Shutter, this is makes it not as capable to the mapping capabilities that the mechanical shutter on the one puck Mavic 3 Enterprise drone? Will the cameras on the m30 be upgrade-able?
@fpshobbs
@fpshobbs Жыл бұрын
Simple business they won't sell a drone that can do everything. They want you to buy several drones and make more money off of you. Well there is one the m300 but the payload cameras are just expensive as the smaller drones.
@BRO-vk7oi
@BRO-vk7oi 23 күн бұрын
Excellent video Question i have a Mavic 2 Enterprise Dual , Do i have Magnetic Protection/ PowerLine Protection ? I see on the chart , but does this still apply for the mavic 2 enterprise dual ? Thanks for your help ? Greatly appreciated
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 23 күн бұрын
No sir.
@BRO-vk7oi
@BRO-vk7oi 23 күн бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones am a new pilot here in Cleveland Ohio i have a mavic 2 enterprise dual along with a mavic air 2 would you say these two drones can provide me with a successful bisness ? I appreciate your advice thank you so much
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 22 күн бұрын
@@BRO-vk7oi no sir
@egorchorniy346
@egorchorniy346 Жыл бұрын
Great job, very clear
@JCDiaz-Skytech
@JCDiaz-Skytech 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be possible for DJI (or a third party) to create a 2 puck external module to install into a Mavic 3 and gain several limitations? Just wondering...
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately its not possible.
@SKY53.
@SKY53. Жыл бұрын
Do you think it is possible to use the DJI M30T with the old Matrice 210 v1 RTK base station?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
No it can't work together. It has to be the DRTK2 base station
@ceptualfusion1218
@ceptualfusion1218 8 ай бұрын
I always use post processing with my topcon gnss. Never had chance to try dji drtk modules. Do they capable of collecting static gnss data? If so m210 rtk base station might be useful for post processing.
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why drones don't use INS based navigation?
@mannyj06
@mannyj06 5 ай бұрын
I recently bought a Matrice 210 v2 Rtk drone with dual Zenmuse x5 and z30 setup. I want to use it to do some land survey and mapping with topography. Iwas wondering if it's absolutely necessary to use a land RTK GNS station or can I do it without?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 5 ай бұрын
RTK is not needed for survey flights. You will need to change your workflow accordingly to establish a GEO reference system. We are putting together a Survey Mapping online course coming very soon.
@mannyj06
@mannyj06 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the reply and I would love to take the course, I will doing much land surveying and mapping and could definitely use the knowledge!@@SteelCityDrones
@threatlevel_TACO
@threatlevel_TACO 10 ай бұрын
Do the RTK network areas that Dronedeploy offers negate the use of a GC station or GCPs?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 10 ай бұрын
From our research it does appear that Drone Deploy is offering free NTRIP RTK service to their customers in which you would not need the DRTK2 base station.
@matteotrades9691
@matteotrades9691 Жыл бұрын
Do you know if there is a free NTRIP network in Canada?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Sorry no data for Canada.
@matteotrades9691
@matteotrades9691 Жыл бұрын
Do you need a constant internet connection if you are using an NTRIP connection?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Yes you do.
@Barrometre
@Barrometre Жыл бұрын
Very informative! Is DJI Mavic 3E good for cell tower inspection ?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
It depends on how close you want the aircraft from the tower? The Mavic 3E has about 30% ability of the Matrice 30T and about 8% ability of the Matrice 300 in terms of Zoom ability-clarity. If you are comfortable with your aircraft 35-50 feet from the tower to get closeup detail such as reading stickers or surface rust on a fastener than the answer is yes. If you want the aircraft further back more toward 100 feet than you need a Matrice aircraft.
@Barrometre
@Barrometre Жыл бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones many thanks.
@jimmydee291
@jimmydee291 4 ай бұрын
I know this is a year old video (at the time I'm writing this) but where do I get a TV Demo setup like this? --> 20:31
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 4 ай бұрын
On our website, we custom make them. www.steelcitydrones.com
@lowbass5
@lowbass5 5 ай бұрын
great video, but just to recap ..i have a mavic3e with rtk module/antena on top, i also have a compatible third party gps, in what scenarious can I use the third party gps?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 5 ай бұрын
Mapping only
@lowbass5
@lowbass5 5 ай бұрын
I am already using the rtk module for that with great succes, but how can the third party gps help me more?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 5 ай бұрын
@@lowbass5 A one puck antenna system will only help you with positioning, so the answer is no.
@andrewtrachuk
@andrewtrachuk 6 ай бұрын
Does anybody know options for drone positioning without any gps signal? For example in underground or in huge covered building.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 6 ай бұрын
YOu would be relying on the vision system cameras to help maintain position.
@drobin8121
@drobin8121 Жыл бұрын
good video are you saying you have issue flying around cell tower
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Certain cell towers create flying issues that can zap the drone. However they are unrelated to RTK issues.
@rcane6842
@rcane6842 9 ай бұрын
13:01 correct me if I am wrong - having 2 pucks does not mean a more accurate positioning. Instead, it provides protection against metal and power?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 9 ай бұрын
Correct.
@rcane6842
@rcane6842 9 ай бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones Another question - so far this hasn't been tackled from any other relevant YT content - let's say I want to survey an area with a distance of 20km with varying ground elevation, (1) would I still benefit from a commercial-grade RTK device (ie. D-RTK 2 base station)? (2) if there is a limit with regards to connectivity, would it be fine to move the RTK equipment to another point while the drone is waiting for the operator to move the RTK equipment? My question comes from us not being able to get a topographic surveyor due to the project site location and the nature of the project itself (raw water transmission lines). Our option is to use this drone setup instead, and that the D-RTK 2 would amplify the accuracy of the data.
@NicManGun
@NicManGun 3 ай бұрын
Why can't we use 4G/LTE dongle connections on our drones like they do in some other countries for better connection, On DJIs website the DJI 4G Cellular Dongle says "Not available in your country/region."
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 3 ай бұрын
FCC laws and regulations
@FuzzyAason
@FuzzyAason 9 ай бұрын
After buying a DJI RTK base station... do I still have to pay any subscription fee thereafter to get that satellite coverage?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 9 ай бұрын
No you don’t have to pay for any subscription services. That would only be for NTRIP
@FuzzyAason
@FuzzyAason 9 ай бұрын
@SteelCityDrones thank you for answering. I am a new DSP in Singapore :) I didn't want to get an RTK as I am doing facade inspection and not mapping... but I realised the satellite coverage prevents my drone from continuing autonomous flight. Hoping RTK can change that
@RobBoydL
@RobBoydL 6 ай бұрын
Can anyone give me info on using Carlson brx7 base with matrice 350.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 6 ай бұрын
The dealer you purchased it from will know exactly for sure.
@SaanichtonMinistries
@SaanichtonMinistries Жыл бұрын
What about time synchronization? Does the Mavic 3 have that option?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Yes it has to have it because Mavic 3E is a mapping drone.
@SaanichtonMinistries
@SaanichtonMinistries Жыл бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones I would like to confirm that. The M2EA was RTK but did not have time sync and also had a bad RGB camera. I would like to see how the M3E stacks up against the M300 P1.
@SaanichtonMinistries
@SaanichtonMinistries Жыл бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones some use the mini as a mapping drone. Just because it is RTK does not make it a proper drone for survey. I learned that with the M2EA. DJI just want the consumer to buy more of their stuff…
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
@@SaanichtonMinistries You have never seen us claim that a consumer drone can't perform mapping jobs. With any consumer drone, there has to be a camera profile in the processing application like Pix4D and then you need to use the appropriate amount of ground control points.
@SevericK_BooM
@SevericK_BooM 3 ай бұрын
SO, if I’m in Texas with free NTRIP and an RTK module on m3e then physical $5000 base station isn’t needed
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 3 ай бұрын
The drone has to acquire RTK service from either NTRIP or a base station, it doesn't need both unless its a 3rd party base station such as EMLID or Trimble.
@DzMSE
@DzMSE Жыл бұрын
Дякую за відео, вітання від птахів Мадяра
@andrewtrachuk
@andrewtrachuk 6 ай бұрын
І шо хлопці. Можна щось придумати щоб спозиціонувати дрона в наших умовах коли супутників багато)))
@andrewtrachuk
@andrewtrachuk 6 ай бұрын
Завжди думав про базові наземні станції з відомими корами...
@nayanali8491
@nayanali8491 Жыл бұрын
How much will this drone cost?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Not sure what drone you are referring to. This video is discussing RTK technology that many drones use.
@skunko162
@skunko162 6 ай бұрын
I thought DJI was advertising accurate mapping with the RTK module, and no bay station
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 6 ай бұрын
Yea sir you can get accurate mapping with the RTK module with the M3E.
@carlosuhlmann2491
@carlosuhlmann2491 10 ай бұрын
The question is not whether I need it but can I afford it? The answer is: NO! End of case (for me). Thank you nonetheless
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones 10 ай бұрын
RTK is just a tool for certain applications.
@scrapmanindustries
@scrapmanindustries 11 ай бұрын
Is that Pittsburg steel? It ain’t Bethlehem.
@timothyspanos7308
@timothyspanos7308 Жыл бұрын
CT has free ntrip network
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
We have been using this source to show what states have it. We found it to be pretty accurate. www.gpsworld.com/finally-a-list-of-public-rtk-base-stations-in-the-u-s/
@timothyspanos7308
@timothyspanos7308 Жыл бұрын
@Steel City Drones I figured you were using a source, I was just sharing that CT does, in fact, have a free NTRIP service called the ACORN network and managed by UCONN. So it's not 100 % accurate, ACORN isn't brand new either, it's been available in its current configuration for free since before 2019.
@lawkid5098
@lawkid5098 2 ай бұрын
Or you can just resort to the old reliable way....GCP's
@paulchapman2184
@paulchapman2184 Жыл бұрын
H😅do you guys price a job?
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Watch this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNiqlr1pqsuVY4E.html
@alastairjohn3010
@alastairjohn3010 Жыл бұрын
if people are not surveyors and don't know how rtk works they have no business with it.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
I could not disagree with you any more. RTK is more than about using it for Survey work. I use it all the time and I don't do any mapping. The video completely covers all the reasons why a buyer would want RTK.
@alastairjohn3010
@alastairjohn3010 Жыл бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones I disagree. Though enjoy your work on this channel, many thanks.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
@@alastairjohn3010 you disagree that there is a huge market for RTK service for inspections around 200K plus power lines? We sell more drones for that application than survey applications on a 5 to 1 ratio.
@Guide504
@Guide504 Жыл бұрын
@@SteelCityDrones I think we are at cross purposes, in the UK inspections are M&E 'surveys' done by competent surveyors!
@brendan3430
@brendan3430 11 ай бұрын
...who also have no business doing so if one subscribes to the principals of @alistairjohn3010.
@medienmond
@medienmond 6 ай бұрын
HaHaHa. ROFL!Selling 69 dollar hardware for 700 bucks that's wonderful. DJI has somehow found the perfect cash cow...
@alastairjohn3010
@alastairjohn3010 Жыл бұрын
buying a drone does not make you a surveyor, the drone is not a business it's a tool.
@SteelCityDrones
@SteelCityDrones Жыл бұрын
Nobody says a drone makes you a surveyor especially in the video above.
@agg25gga
@agg25gga 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a surveyor is feeling threatened about how easy technology is making his livelihood to the average Joe
@CoherentDelivery
@CoherentDelivery 3 ай бұрын
awesome !!!!
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