I remember during my commercial checkride, my Examiner, who was also an aerobatic pilot, put the test on hold and asked for control of the airplane to demonstrate eights on pylons. Naturally, I said OK, and he took a 172 and spun those pylons at nearly 85°, without losing a single foot of altitude. He did it to the left and immediately rolled to the right. He didn’t level the wings gave me back the airplane told me don’t try this at home and check ride back on. That was the greatest less than I ever had. Never attempted to do it, but I thought it was a great learning tool.

JASON I JUST PASSED MY PRIVATE PILOT CHECKRIDE!!! I've consumed so much MzeroA on youtube and it really helped. Thank you! I don't think you have a video on recommended first steps after the certificate. I'm thinking high power / complex / taildragger endorsements and then Instrument.

Just got back from my flight where I practiced steep turns, thinking back on how they went this would have helped me a ton!

Me! I've used the MzeroA trim technique. Made my steep turns a lot easier.

Excellent video. I have a 172M and you are correct that every airplane is different. I only need to add two swipes of the trim wheel in a steep turn to maintain altitude. Thanks for the great information!!

Hey Jason, when I turned 59 and committed to getting my PPL by 60, I got your Private Pilot Blueprint. It inspired me tremendously. I got my ticket before 60 and I thank you so much for your passion and inspiration 😃. This video is so timely for me. I’m getting checked out in a 2008 C172SP. I got my ticket in a PA28-180. So transitioning to a high wing is challenging and fun. During steep turns my CFI showed me the advantage use of trim and WOW! Take care and thank you again 😃

MzeroA Im 20 just started my pilot training, I come form a big aviation family and no one in the past generations had access to videos like this! Great time to be a student pilot thanks for doing these.

The flying school were adamant about trimming for hands-off straight and level flight, but I only learned how to trim for hands-off steep turns on my checkride. After I demonstrated steep turns the examiner told me "OK, but there's a better way..."

KUDOS to you Jason! That was a very informative, interesting, and definitely useful explanation of a better way to execute steep turns. Trim is a pilot's best friend, in many aspects of flying aircraft. In my 44 years of instructing, I have always advocated for flying with "fingertip control".

i have my checkride tomorrow morning, and to be honest, i just used this for the first time today and made it a whole lot easier... i dont have a trim wheel i have a lever, and unfortunately i have to swap hands to use it, so i trimmed before the turn. same result but a little easier :D

I really like how you is teach about steep turn

Awesome! Thanks for sharing :D

Fantastic video, I'm starting to prepare for my check ride, a bit worried on the knowledge portion (it's been a bit since my written). Thanks!

Thanks for the video! 32hr private hopefully going to solo soon!

Anyone familiar with the Piper Archer trim technique? How many RPM and swipes for a steep turn to Commercial Standards? I find that three swipes can often be insufficient to maintain altitude. Thanks!

Wow really good information

Wow thanks. That was great. Thank you Boss.🫡🍃

Thanks for the info, reviewing slow flight and this helped a ton!

You’re the best thank you Instructor Jason🎉❤🎉

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Thanks so much for sharing this video! My PPL checkride is coming up in mid-July!

You are an amazing help to learn to fly, thank you for that!

Love the content

I did my first 45 yesterday with these info bet you i will do it better next time

Excellent work with the test prep for Airmen Certification Standards. "Always learning making that safer, smarter pilot." Yes, PPL is a licence to learn to be a safer, smarter pilot. It is a decent initial preparation for corporate and airline work in more powerful airplanes. But most of your students will not fly powerful corporate and airline jets. Will the requirement to maintain altitude in steep turns be required or safe for the remainder of their flying career in Ag, pipeline or powerline patrol, banner tow, glider tow, fire fighting, police work, environmental work, or just recreational flying? ACS is good prep for flight by reference to instruments, not for the contact flying that many of your students will do. Why don't we also teach not just the knowledge of for written test, but the actual use of dynamic neutral stability in all turns, but especially steep turns? Wolfgang asks, in Stick and Rudder, what does the airplane want to do in the turn? It wants to pitch down to prevent stall. The design of the airplane is to fly, not stall. It cannot stall itself, a pilot pulling back on the stick is required for stall. Why not only teach, but indoctrinate for muscle memory in a startle, not to pull back on the stick in the turn. Why not, for safety sake, pay more attention to what the airplane wants to do. In Billy Howell's Ag flight, from zero time through Commercial and Ag, prevention of stall (fatal for Ag) rather than recovery from stall was emphasized. There are only two ways to prevent stall in turns of very steep bank, by adding power to the point of passing out or by not loading the wing any further than in level flight. That would be by not pulling back on the stick to maintain altitude better used (potential energy of altitude converted to airspeed) to prevent stall. The best drill for level steep level turns is Dutch rolls (some now call coordination rolls) because if done to 45 degree banks, we learn decisively that unless we lead rudder there is no coordination. We simply cannot hold the distant point without leading, at least in the human mind, rudder. It just does not happen. This shows up both in steep turns and especially on short final wing wagging. Why is the student wagging the wing worse the closer he gets. He is using the steering wheel, the ailerons, to bring the nose (actually between legs in side by side) back to the centerline. Each time he does this, the nose yaws incorrectly (adverse yaw.) So the more accurate he wants to be with longitudinal axis, the worse this wing wagging becomes. I jam my thumb under one side of the yoke so that when he tries to turn (we don't want to turn, we want to yaw correctly with rudder only) the aileron is jammed. Another technique is to take the yoke and have him put his hands in his lap and just maintain (bracket) the centerline with dynamic proactive rudder. We old TW instructors know tail waggers (nose or tail wheel) have far fewer landing problems than do wing waggers. Anyway, good job with the level steep turns lesson. I encourage instructors I fly with (I no longer have medical) to teach flying first and then ACS. All my students soloed in less than ten hours and knew how to fly. It doesn't make it take longer to complete PPL. There is more new stuff and better technology I know. That stuff is not necessary to get around the pattern three times.

Jason, how do steep turns differ in a Piper Cherokee and is the trim settings for this similar? Could you do a demonstration of a steep turn in a Cherokee? Thanks

I remember when I used to live in the US (I’m back to Portugal finishing my EASA ATPL), while doing my FAA PPL checkride, my DP didn’t really like me using the trim. I passed the check of course, and asked him what he didn’t like about the steep turns with trim and he said “it makes it too easy” 😂😂

I used the trim technique which is great but still having issues with loosing altitude 100-200 then my speed is all over. 😒

Excellent, 1 degree oven can kill if you dont have the correct airspeed at low altitude

One of my students is considering stopping his pilot journey because it’s taking him longer than other students. I’ve given him as much support and advice I could but I was wondering if you could do a video or provide some advice for him.

So did you do that without adding power or did I miss that..?

Totally excellent 👍🏻👮🏻‍♂️✈️🇺🇸

Tahnks for your effort and time, learned a lot from you while i was in school , at flightsafety vero beach 7 years ago 🫡🫶🏼☕️