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How to give us Science victory without giving us Science victory.

Cosmogenesis Empire vs Endgame Crisis: "This galaxy isn't big enough for the two of us... *Cracks Knuckles* ...So I'm leaving! Have Fun!"

Stellaris Devs "The player base can finish the tech tree to easily so lets nerf science." 5 seconds later. Stellaris Devs "Lets give the player base a way to earn 60k science."

> Pick Cosmogenesis Crisis ascension > Ignore other empires > Refuses to elaborate further > Leaves

Endgame crisis and galactic nemesis: we don’t like you, so we destroy all of you Tech rush crisis: we don’t like you, so we are leaving

Galactic Community: "How have you been making so many leaps in scientific research lately?" Me: "Oh, its easy. We have been interring a portion of our meat slave population from our slave breeder colony into the synaptic laithe to increase our research computing power a hundred fold!" Galactic Community: "Your WHAT!? on the WHAT!? into the WHAT!?!?" Me:

Fun combo if you get the Vultaum precursor it gives you a huge boot to your Crisis Score. It jumped me from rank 1 to 4 for completing the full Precursor research. "They knew the secrets, They showed us the door, We just need to open it."

I'm getting flashbacks to Shattered Ringworld origin. When every 'unique' build was using Shattered Ringworld origin.

So the Synaptic Laythe is the Astranomicon of science.

I love how they made the new player crisis actually turn your empire into a Fallen Empire. Love it!

So you did recorded two videos at the same time with "Stellaris Virtual Fallen Empire Rush" video. Great idea.

"This time we'll see how they win and what happens afterwards" So space mommy won't stop you in the nick of time again?

A funny achievment should be something like "The Needler" Or "AGAIN?": In one game build and use Horizon Needles with 3 different Empires.

Reality Thesis tech being classified as "computer tech" is very meta indeed. Y'know, since Stellaris is a game.. the Vultaum were always right

Information came from Reddit, then translated-informed the Korea playerbase - SPOILER! It appears that there is 10 different endings after using the needle, aside from non-generic ending when you face the ending with the needle without any modification on civics and ect. Example as... - Killing "The End of Cycle" - Joining the forever crusade along with the true Toxic God (with Toxic God origin) - Meeting by flesh with your supporter within the veil (As psyonic origin) I am uncertain what other else is, but I can definitely say... This DLC is LIT.

Psionic ascended empires with covenant and Knights of the toxic god empires receive alternative narrative endings for this crisis. I especially like the one for Knights since they finally join their Toxic God

Dark matter power being available that early on is sure going to make ACOT interesting wonder how quickly someone can rush Delta tier now

"The dream of Mars isn't dead. It's about to be writ large."

Are you able to rename the new Synaptic Lathe? I would like to name it after my university - after a full day there I feel as though my entire brain power has been sapped dry.

Paradox: tech is too powerful! Must nerf output bonuses to researchers and reduce their base output Also Paradox: teehee what if we made pops irrelevant with virtuality and tech like energy with synaptic lathe just for treals? 😂😂😂 I want whatever they’re smoking cuz that’s a 180 if I ever seen it

Can't wait to do a Cosmogenesis run as every single empire in a save :P

Megacorp Technopriest Cyborgs are OP guys.

I love how the implication of these two Crisis Paths is that both the Materialist and the Spiritualist FEs tried to execute them in the past, but failed, likely due to the other's interference. Hence why they're so mad at each other.

Cosmogenesis can either basically be the Good Guy Crisis to stop the Nemesis or the jerks that only save themselves before the galaxy goes boom.

I did a run where i was a ninate individualiste machine and finish this crisis path, first dont take this with a wide build you have to collecte so many planète at the end, second it is so good to leave the world during à crisis, see everyone die or fight and you just peace out after messing with the univers

You can use cosmogenesis to tell an endgame crisis to go screw itself. Which is what I plan on doing.

Using the new player crisis helps roleplayers finally be able to do a “arkship” of sorts escaping a doomed galaxy

I love the look of the fallen empire buildings, they are just so majestic.

I can’t wait to see what Ancient Cache does with this.

Dome buildings also can be used for biotrophy. Soo you can build a ecumenopolice full of forge district and +200 biotrophy.

I love the idea that an empire who was badly affected by another's Horizon Needle could be spurred to make their own in order to track down the first empire.

The question I wondered about ever since its announcement.. can our newly-created fallen empire awaken just like others? If it can, how do their ethics alter its behavior if they don't always change into those that are typical for a fallen empire?

honestly, this sounds like a good thing to run but not complete.. get all the bonuses but still be able to fight the end game crisis and what/not

I honestly like the “needle” ending.. and the “play on” it’s genious and special.

Everything about how this perk/crisis was designed is brilliant. Even if you WANT to be “good,” it very organically guides you down a road to hell of your own making. “Well, I’m already sacrificing lives on the pyre. What’s a few tens of billions more, if it gets us to the goal?”

Have you tried the Syncretic Evolution Origin since the update? With a mechanical primary race, you can have full organic pop growth and full robotic assembly at the start of the game. If you have Lithoid with gassious byproducts as your subrace you can go right into building +20% res from all jobs pops right at the start

AKA "The Long Play That Never Ends" ♻

Dyson Swarms on Physic stars gets you so much research with a couple of these at tier 3

Just finished my cosmo playthrough and man, that tech is insane. I had a raiding fleet on every enemy capital, funneling tons of pops back to the lathe at an absurd rate. It got to the point where I was producing so much tech that my "tech production increase rate" was far exceeding the tech cost increase rate and everytbing starting taking ~1 month, even after tons of repeatable already completed.

I feel like nihilistic acquisition just went from good to GREAT.

I accidentally changed the speed of light in my experiments and one of my 4 planets (tall virtuality build) became an barren world, killed everyone on it and deleted the colony, rip.

Some really interesting mechanics here

We definatly need some metabuild videos

This new crisis path seems so benign, but one look beneath the surface reveals just how horrible it actually is. All those pops, just so your computer can tell you that "you are a horrible person".

Synaptic cogitator on a determined exterminator sounds crazy, just become more powerful the more pops you capture

5:21 or you can get unlucky like me, setting your stars into overdrive and therefore turning your Ecumenopolis into a desert world

My first run playing my normal machines with virtual ascension and cosm crisis If you do decide to put those high purge high output buildings on the lathe then you too can see what 300k+ research looks like just know as quickly as you get their you will be gone do to the insane purge rate you will have That being said building the lathe to preserve chip life spans you can get too an easy 82k tech from the lathe and it won't melt away but you will see thousands tick away each month as pops keep getting purged This makes me wonder if a couple massive pop production worlds are in order to keep feeding the lathe

You forgot to mention one important detail: this crisis path has well over a dozen different endings. Which ending you get, depends on a variety of factors, including which specific black hole you use on the Horizon Needle, as well as a few unique ones for certain civics and origins. The endings are (Don't read if you don't want spoilers): 1: Default. You get this one by using any regular black hole that isn't the one in the center of the galaxy 2: Massive: You get this one by using the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy 3: Psionic. This one is a bit more advanced to get. You have to be a Psionic empire, must have formed a covenant with one of the four Shroud Entities, and use the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy 4: Knights of the Toxic God: This one requires you to have the Knights of the Toxic God origin, and that you leave via the supermassive black hole at the center of the balaxy. 5: Gargantua: This one requires the Gargantua Black Hole to spawn in your galaxy, and that you DO NOT complete the Infinity Machine event, and then use the Horizon Needle on the Gargantua Black Hole. 6: Gargantua 2: This one requires the Gargantua Black Hole to spawn your galaxy, and that you complete the Infinity Machine Event, which causes the Gargantua black hole to turn into the smaller Pantagruel Black Hole. You then use the horizon needle on this Pantagruel Black Hole 7: Great Wound: This one requires the Great Wound system to spawn in your galaxy, and that you use the Horizon Needle on the Great Wound Black Hole. 8: Horror: This one is pretty much a downer ending, and requires you to be dumb enough to use the black hole from which a Dimensional Horror, or The Elder One emerge. Obviously it also requires these to spawn in your galaxy to begin with. 9: Obsessive. This one requires you to play as a non-genocidal Machine Empire, with the Obsessional Directive civic, and then use any black hole other than the special ones to use the Horizon Needle on. This one is pretty much a joke ending. 10: Terminus: This one requires you to use the Horizon Needle on the Terminus Egress black hole, located on the entry system of the L-Cluster. Obviously it requires the L-cluster to be activated on the game settings before starting a new game. 11: The Worm: This one requires you to complete the Horizon Signal event, and then specifically use the Horizon Needle on the black hole left behind by the worm.

So many resources now Endless Minerals Alloys with out end The cybrex mining thing is now so usefull

Do you get any special dialogue or interactions from other Fallen Empires while going down this path? Or, additionally, from your parent Fallen Empire if you are a Scion?

I’d love to see a renowned and legendary paragons tier list! Also an endgame crisis tier list with F being boring and/or strong/unbalanced and s tier being very fun and/or easier to deal with

8:00 after machines chose Nanites, farming and mining gives nanite production too

This is just the science victory from galactic civilization

So the funny thing is, you don’t even need to go raiding as a machine empire with the Wombo Combo of arc furnaces and the fallen empire robot assemblers. Just build more robots assemblers until you hit your mineral limits; which are absolutely absurd thanks to arc furnaces - you don’t even have to minerals into alloys, the max level ones slap alloys onto all the mineral points they make. After that, just get the lathe non revolting, shove whatever other buildings you like, then start dumping robutts in by the mega carrier.

Did my first Cosmogenesis crisis completion today, and I like it a lot more than the old one. Big W for Paradox & Reality shattering science in general

I know that this would work so much better through conquest to gain pops, but I tend to like playing friendly tech empires trying to guide others, especially with Under One Rule. This crisis offering otherwise unreachable tech and being "friendly" viable makes me wonder if I can get decent pop growth through immigration, using Brain Poacher for the extra research and the new cyberdome edict for more immigration pull... Modding the secondary species for research and throwing them into the space computer.

i really like this player crisis, fun story i had with it so far is that i took it pretty early on, turtled up and didnt expand too much, and then surprisingly enough a devouring swarm took the other crisis and was making their way across the galaxy, pretty much wiping out all the other ai empires, then attacked a fallen empire, i though that was it, they were stopped for a while, but then they just started blowing up their star systems lol, so in a last ditch effort to not lose i poured all my effort into cosmogenesis, i barely made it into the blackhole with their 200k fleets on my tail, being held off by my remaining forces

Tip for pop stealing: 1) Intergrate your vassals, the most populated one to be precise. At year ~2375 decent AI empire can have ~1000 pops and MAN that gives a lot of research (also A LOT of energy upkeep). Virtual ascension is your biggest friend here since you dont need to spam influence to destroy your colonies. If you go wide - you may keep these planets to turn later into pop growth/assembly planets for your lovely Lathe. 2) Get your generals to Lv7 and give them that one specific destiny trait that steals part of all pops from conquered planets and resettles them into your colonies. Helps a lot even at unfair wars, also guarantees damage done to attacked empires and your gain. 3) Intel is your friend. You always need to know where the most amount of pops to purge are. Espionages, Sentry Array(!) and other spy related effects may help with that. 4) Before attacking someone - you better check out their planets 1st and remember planets with highest pop counts. Thats usually capitals but all empires have many other planets to check out, sometimes even more populated than their capitals as well. Previous tip is necessary with this one since you cant do it beforehand with low intel.

I hope they don’t nerf this as I think it should be OP as it’s making you a fallen empire

Man virtual sovereign guardianship with the dark matter civic later was absolutely nuts. Ive never busted the game open quite like this. And with less than 100 empire size. I hung out at level 4 for quite a while playing the game. But when i finally went genocidal the research was obscene. Just the ganic pops from migration and all of the chosen (nice of them to build another science nexus for me) had me up to 214k research I think.

I absolutely adore this crisis path, I accidentally burned down both my Capital world AND my Oecumenopolis, completely crashing my economy right before dipping out of the galaxy, it's so fun!

you can build more than one lathe btw

Is it possible to use cosmogenesis's horizon needle end result as weapon against other crisis? And what about nemesis's end result? Would it effect other result?

11:43 you technically can put virtual pop in Lathe if you're virtual and there's constantly gonna be 1 virtual pop (not worth it tho, only 60 total research with 6 science modules when you can get thousands from this bad boi) unless you put someone else

Mmm, we can reach the Zenith of technology of the Fallen Empires... ;)

How many fallen empires could you make with new game+ cosmo Genesis. Could you continue it in perpetuity? After 4 or 5 would they even let you complete cosmo genesis or would you just be constantly fighting humiliation wars?

I can't wait for a mod that lets us continue out playthrough as the our fallen Empire.

What are the implications on a Multiplayer game tough? Does the game end there, or can you and your colleagues resume it (with you as the new Fallen Empire)?

So I tried this, and it turns out that unlike the Crisis empire, a Cosmogenesis empire does not have everyone declare war on them at Stage 5. You aren't being an active threat to all of existence in the way a Crisis empire is. You will still get lots of negative opinions, but you are effectively a lot more free to complete this run compared to a normal Crisis empire.

Wait, is there not an equivalent to the Robot Nexus for Hive Mind Spawning Pools? Seems like an oversight to me.

Is this the class 30 singularity the contingency was created to fight?

Cant wait to get this dlc, over 6k hours on this damn game. Looks fantastic and ive always prefered machines so its perfect. Just gotta find a new job and this dlc is mine.

I played this ascension, and got cetana as an endgame crisis. It's kind of frustrating to do the queen servant situation research because all other empires blocked my access, because apparently my empire was "genocidal" 😂

Very cool ending for this dlc, something different.

I had was doing a Cosmogenesis Crisis run but none of the AI attack me. The only starbases i lost were when i did the repeatable tech and a bunch of my ships exploded. The AI was actually really chill about it. I expected the FEs to declare war on me (which would be bad because I'm using mods that make them insane) but no, they just kind of chilled.

Thank You for this video...

8:23 And Nourishment Center gives +5% Habitability

Does anything happen if you run out of pops on the lathe?

These ships looks so op

i wonder if they managed to get into the new Reality or not... Open Endings like this are just so... open...

I played this crisis path and for a short time had over 300 thousand research with 400-600 pops.

ACoT and ZoFE are probably going to need massive overhauls after this.

I wonder how the Lathe works with nueral stapling?

So far it seems like pops purge way too fast for the lathe to be useful. You can go through dozens of pops a year and there just aren't enough to go around for it to get you more than a handful of quick techs

Sounds like it would be quite good with the virtual ascention path. Something to do with all those useless physical pops.

So, I seem to be getting a reputation amongst my peers as being genocidal now that I have opened my Synaptic Lathe; any work around for that?

So, if you want all of the fancy Fallen Empire buildings, ships, and tech, but don't wish to actually become the very thing you swore to destroy (a real Fallen Empire) do you need only avoid actually building the Horizon Needle? Avoid building the mobile megastructure that unlicks the final act of the crisis, so that you can continue doing whatever you want with this galaxy?

can multiple players pick this ascension perk in a multiplayer game?

So fallen empire buildings now require pops to get their effects? Or is that just the builds made by this crisis path

I don't want to watch the video because of spoilers, but I'm very curious on that New Game+ thing that comes after you finish Cosmogenesis. Do you get to pick what species to play as after yours becomes a Fallen Empire? Does Precursors/anomalies/events/ect reset so the new empire you play as can get them? Does the date reset back to 2200 or does it continue? I've wanted a way to create custom Fallen Empires in vanilla Stellaris for ages, so that's the main reason I'm interested in Cosmogenesis.

I'd love to see someone crazy enough to try this without using the Synaptic Lathe.

Ngl I'm gonna miss catalytic reprocessing mineral hoarding to spam ships across the galaxy, crushing the universe on the brink of my empires collapse

Do you prefer cosmogenesis or the galactic nemesis player crisis?

Synaptic Lathe: Bondrewd on megastructure scale

Well now I need to think of an empire that can create pops the fastest I can feed into the lathe. Clone soldiers? Hive mind? Maybe find a new use for Bio Trophies?

What if sinaptic lathe will claim the independence? How can an empire like this (with only planet - lathe) even exist?

Montu against all crisis last crisis is 200 times stronger than normal.

So we got base game low-mid tier ACOT

So this Crisis mode is to go full Vultuam Star Assembly without mass suicide?