Important note on the Contingency! You MUST either: a) Wait and only fight them after you have blocked the ghost signal. b) remove sapient combat computers from your ships. (Autonomous and psionic are fine, sapient gets a debuf from the ghost signal! Switch down to yellow if you have to.) The sapient computers on the contingency designs have left a fair few people confused so I wanted to add this!

Montu: Detailed and well designed ships to face each each crisis. Me: Sending wave after wave of auto designed ship to the slaughter.

The Unbidden are very aptly named, always showing up in the most inconvenient system.

I had the best moment in my life when, small galaxy, I was in a galactic war with the big three-faction conglomerate when unbidden showed up. In the middle of a transit system. My navy just flew by and I never had a clearer: "no stfu"-moment. Drive-by and unbidden was gone again.

Something to note about the Unbidden; they get 40% shield hardening in systems with a dimensional anchor. That was a nasty shock the first time I lost a bypass fleet to a fight I "should" have won.

I prefer massed carrier builds myself. One thing you never mentioned, and I noticed, you had Sapient Combat computers on all your ships when going over the Contingency. Those suffer a -50% penalty at the start and only gradually weaken as you crack their worlds. So, either psionic combat computers or advanced combat computers should be used instead vs the Unbidden. Fun fact, Unbidden have 50% shield hardening. Or, at least that is what the tooltip says any rate once you can see the loadouts on their ships.

I NEEDED YOU 2 DAYS AGO, NOW THE CONTINGENCY IS EATING ME ALIVE

Montu: making a very detailed guide Me knowing damn well I’m gonna use wave after wave of evasion corvettes:

One thing that makes the unbidden so easy is how they target psyonic empires first. In a 25 times crisis run, I had them make a 1 system thin line through half my empire while they tried to attack a spiritual fallen empire. So I always faced one or less fleets of them and they never really attacked me as long as I "raided" their fleets on their way to the fallen empire. Their portal was only 2 systems away from a system of mine, so I could just sweep in and kill it after a few months

Tho if you really want to mass corvette swarms do work against crisis as well, about 400-800 of them will do the trick (taking out a single fleet with minimum losses), and are quite cheap and fast to build

My preferred all rounder crisis fighting ship is the Focused Arc Emitter battleships with the hangar core and the 3 aux slot stern sections. That gives 1 hangar bay and a bunch of M slots for Whirlwind missiles. It bypasses Unbidden shields, fends off Prethoryn swarm strikers, has great range for kiting the Contingency and can continue inflicting damage while the X-slot is turned away /out of firing arc. Although this video focuses on ship design, high levels of research into repeatable weapons damage and firing rate technology is the key to beating a high multiplier crisis. Energy weapons and strike craft are easy to focus on but kinetic weapons, missiles, armor and defense platform buffs all compete with each other within engineering. So I have turned away from kinetic weapons in my own PvE meta in favor of missiles. Kinetic weapon also have that default 75% accuracy which just begs you to use up an aux slot for an aux fire control instead of an afterburner or regenerative hull tissue.

I really, REALLY love those videos. Keep 'em coming! :)

I KNEW YOU'D DO IT. Thank you so much your content is amazing

i am just happy that my standart battleship design i use is in the video and is listed as an all rounder against the crisis

Imagine if paradox added turning speed for ships

Great video as always!

Thanks for the video Montu. I got absolutely shredded by 10x Unbidden using mass torpedo cruisers and stealth frigates this week. The Alpha strike didn’t kill as many as I hoped and my fleets got disintegrated in 1 min 🤣

3:00 doesn’t artillery class take the median of all weapon ranges for the range it’ll try to stay at and not the mean? Strat made a video on that so you should be alright to add marauder missiles even if they won’t be firing all the time due to range.

I love the intro scenes, I enjoy it most when I like the references too

I've got a new video to watch anytime I hit late game now lol. Thank you Montu!

Thank you this will come in very handy in our current round.

I've always found the high level contingency the hardest faction to beat, probably because in the past I didn't commit to the naked FAE battleships. I did notice in my last run they had some minimal hardening, I'm guessing its like the synthetic leader trait? Just 10%. I also found it difficult assaulting their bases when the system had a gateway or hyper relay positioned in range of their weapons. It really sucks you can't choose to approach from one of the hyper lanes when the other methods are considered higher pathing priority. edit: I needed to use corvette screens to beat those systems...poor corvettes.

Thanks Montu! If I ever survive the gray tempest I will treasure your advices!

Thanks! I purposely delayed my current playthrough hoping you'd release this video. I think I'll move to the all-rounder option until I see what the coming crisis is and where it spawns. If I have time to convert to a more specific setup after the first crisis message pops up, I'll do so.

that intro of The Stolen Earth (Doctor Who Series 4 episode 12, 2008) was used perfectly how the end game crisis is described

As someone who has never owned stellaris, excellent guide.

Endgame Crises are so simple with this tips. Thank you my Emporer! :D

Very very good video, do you have any videos on what the minimum number of these fleets we should aim for for each 25x crisis?

Your awesome dude and awesome video be safe out there

I noticed you didn't mention the Dark Matter technologies. But it's cool. I can take the very detailed designs you showcased and easily create Dark Metter equivalents. Thanks, Montu a and Yern.

The anti-anbidden cruiser - would it really get closer to the enemy with marauders? The artillery computer uses the longest range weapon for distancing if i remember correctly (even if it uses the median it would still use 120). This would mean that in an ideal case, the marauders would never fire, but if something goes wrong because of jump points, multiple fleets, or system size, the marauders would give a bit more firepower in situations where you need it.

Exactly what we needed post 3.6

It shows how much the game changed. It used to be the Ubiden was considered the most terrifying threat. Though to be fair, they did get a bit nurf without having large slot arc weapons, which can now penetrate shields and armor and have a range of 100..

Great video! Can you do one that shows your ideal galaxy settings (shape, number of AI empires, etc)?

Thx for the video .

Thank you for that incredibly helpful material. I love your ship design videos as they are really good and explained clearly. Do you plan to make something similar about "general" battleship/titan/juggernaut/defense platforms? Or about designs vs Gray Tempest/Fallen Empires/Khan/Leviathans etc. for us being able to beat them early instead of just flooding them with much greater fleets? I'm good at the economic part of the game but I really suck with creating my own designs (and fleet composition even more). Especially with archaeo-tech, which I don't use in general because of then being so different 😅

Have you done a video about the different leviathans and such yet? A few of those things have really messed me up in various games.

Thanks!

FINALLY! THANX SIR!

So I'm hearing massed kinetic artillery battleship spam for all crises? Understood, knew you had good taste Montu.

"The best way to counter that is just to bring more ships." :D

I laughed at the naked penetration battleships until I saw that upkeep for them is 3 times lower compared to fully-slotted one and it got me thinking that one might try to make only these until the type of crisis is know

I find it funny that the next? season's ending of Dr Who has the universe allied against the Doctor since they think he is the endgame crisis.

I do wonder if the starbase modules have a similar problem as the Auras. If so, the module with shield points reduction would be particularly awful and I should switch to the fire rate and range boosting-modules. I did notice (I think) you can aggro crises fleets so they try hunt down those fleets with which you inflict heavy losses on them. So a decent strategy is have your fleet eviscerate one or two small contingents, then lure the bigger ones into one of your own heavily fortified systems to ambush it with those juicy defensive modifiers. A bit risky, but high reward. (Honestly, I believe there should be a Major Fortress-Orbital which grants less habitation space, but adds an additional base with firepower like the Orbital Ring can be. Maybe lock it behind the 'Galactic Force Projection'-AP, or require finishing Unyielding. Or both.) I usually play with the Gigas-mod as I can't find the energy to alter my pre-made empires in it by reverting back to vanilla. My preferred method of dealing with the standard crises is throwing a literal planet at the problem, which honestly is quite funny when you think about it for the Unbidden and the Prethoryn. Usually solves the 25x-crisis unless I have to fight all their fleets in a single battle. However in Grand Admiral, it usually takes me about 90-100 years from the game start to build them, as it takes a lot of research and economy to do so. So for the sadistic earliest crises this might not be that viable of a strat.

Forgetting the combat computer issue when facing Contingency? Use Psionic one, or one tier lower from Sapient.

Does your build from the Maginot game still work for Starbases against the Crisis? Or do you have new recommendations?

For the anti-unbidden cruisers, would you add missiles to the small slots at high crisis strength since the extra shield HP doesn't matter?

For PvE stellaris, would you recommend the all rounder for general purpose builds?

You are on a content spree mr Montu! I assume after vassalizing EP2nil you acquired his content library and decided to repurpose it for better use! I for one welcome our lizard Overlords!

You know speed is key when the juggernaut class is faster than the unbidden. Also even tho i play on the console version (cause rip my pc trying to run the game) were missles cant go in the M slot and share the slots with torps. But hey this still helps alot here.

Any advice on the Grey Tempest and Great Khan?

Never played with 25x crisis, but always play against 10x all crisis in my games. And I think that missile tactic is really great against Prethoryn Scourge. You can remake your frigates into neutron launcher/missile build, and make aircraft cruisers. Put all of possible variations into aircrafts and last slot can be made with 2 middle class and whirlwind missiles. The real problem in all of this crisis is Contingency. They just need to be prepared for. All of the times I met them - I was just smashed or barely held them till 2500 happens 😅

2:55 Wait, if you have the artillery combat computer, doesn't that make it so the ships stays at the maximum range of their farthest reaching weapon? So equipping the marauder missiles should not have an impact on how close the ship gets, right?

I think i need a video to fight against an awakened spiritualist fallen empire at year 2260, 😅, but i set all 3 crisis so this will be useful too. Thanks Montu. Btw i really hope that 3.10 stop the vassal spamming for the ia

Thaaaaaaank you

I stopped using juggernauts because even with the great aura, the juggernaut will cut your ship production by a third, at least if you rely on ca. 2 mega shipyards like I normally do. How reinforcing your fleet works is that Stellaris will just split the queue by the amount of ship yards amd assign them, so the 2 shipyard juggernaur will get as many ships as a 20 shipyard megashipyard with ship production boosts

How do your general purpose ship designs hold up in the current patch?

Hi, i know this is out of place and can't find a solution online so far, but the whirlwind missiles show up on the g slot for me and not m or s. Idid read they where moved but no idea ehats up on my game. Im on console with out the the fifth and sixth expansions if that makes any difference. Any helpis appreciated.

If in my game settings I'd choose all 3 crisis with x5 strengrt, are they all each strong as one x5 crisis, or only combined? So it can translate to either x5 or x15 one crisis. My favorite play style is Inward Perfectionism ignoring everything, letting the crisis consume the galaxy, then resettling it, with xenos already destroyed by something else.

I miss the crises ships against the crisis if you play with the crises and have access to minerals ships

hmm so i wonder what you can do with modded ships, also i wonder if you use the kill forgot the name of the ship class that can crack planets if you use that vs a crisis will the universe be made at you? Also what if you ran a naked ship with cloaking? So your alpha strike wipes out half?

Hello ... does this channel have a star trek infinite part ? does he makes videos about it ?

quick question from a stellaris beginner: do these all rounder ships work vs ai too ? or should that be a different design and if yes, which designs are good for when you only have repeatable techs as research options ?

Can I ask for a specific guide? A way to benchmark progress in the game to know if you're playing well or not? Basically, where should you be on total research / fleet power / resource production every 50 or 100 years in the game?

Finished a multiplayer game today where we had the Unbidden appear. Corvette swarm saved the galaxy XD

Me (Getting obliterated by the Contingency) : That's it !! let's see if there is any tips about how to beat them ! Montu (literally one hour ago) : Got you fam.

Now can you do a video on how to deal with the Gigastructure crisis? xD

For the Scourge, is how many Flak + Point Defense destroyers are enough to stop one fleet's torps and strike craft?

14:20 I am surprised you didn´t name them the ¨naked¨ class in the game too lol

Would it be a bad idea to run dark matter thrusters, shields, and power generators on the ships? What about if crystal armor(both types)? What about dragon scales?

I'm confused about ship's AI combat tactics. On the Unbidden carrier design you argue that adding marauder missiles would be bad because they'd cause your ships to want to fight from a closer range, but on the Prethoryn battleship you fill small and medium slots with plasma weapons and still equip afterburners for kiting. Wouldn't the short range of the plasma weapons mean that those battleships simply charge straight into the fight?

only thing i saw was for unbidden the rockets had 0-120 then u said in the small slots you put nothing because the marauder missiles have less range at 120 (yes they have 100 but u said 120)

Itd be nice to have gray tempest and fallens in here too but ah well

you should try the zenith of a fallen empire mod its so good

What's best for fallen empires? I'm new a slug of war 😅

did you at all test Neutron/Missile Cruisers against the Scourge or are Neutrons just too awful now?

Montu: counter the crisis for the best possible time Me: FOR THE GRACE FOR THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD

Why no mention of driller drone fighters againt the preythorian?They ignore armor and do bonus damge to hull. If they manage to win the fighter duel they just melt the bigger ships.

Creates 5k corvette fleet Go on crusade from choke point to choke point. Rebuild ships. Keep up and keep orbital nuking all planets including non-crisis.

6:23 Zerg swarm: What? Are you suggesting people would copy the tyranids? Ridiculous

You should try distant worlds, you'll have alot to do and content

how do you deal with excessive pops in stellaris they are just keep growing and it becomes a major headache later in the game, when you are playing with few planets

Wait so for the naked penetration battleships why not put strikecraft on them or is it just a waste of alloys?

Hybrid build is kinda good to all crisis

For the bloody algorithm

The crisis fleets never regenerate in my vanilla console playthroughs

Never noticed the Unbidden have average hull, huh.

I learned of T4 strike craft today and am sad they are so hard to get

I mostly never reach that far cause I get beaten by engame lag that is the true crisis.

Ancient driller drones (archeotech) are great against prethoryn.

Wouldn’t Flak Artillery be better for dealing with Prethoryn strike craft?

Would disrupter cruisers be any good against the contingency?

I've always wondered...there are a few ways to buff ships in a system...but are Defense Platforms considered ships?

Came here for knowledge on how to beat the Blokkats. I'm suffering as my galaxy is being absorbed :(

Isnt missile cruiser good vs all? I mean not perfect conterpic, but you can concentrate on stacking tech that you need more and save time/alloy on do not need to rebuild.

I have a question. If they only have shields can't we just use weapons that affect amour, since it will just affect the hull of the ship directly as they have no amour?

You forgot the montu crisis counter :P

I had the Bitcoin enemy spawn right next to my Capital world. Lucky i was preparing a Huge 12 fleet army of 110k each i went over and destroyed them withhin the Minute of them spawning i never felt better xD

In my experience Unbidden kiting with artillery computers doesn't work, even with Jaggernaut aura it's very unreliable due to messed up ship computer behaviour. Ingame tooltip says ship stays at max range of the highest range weapon, but in reality ship engages at that range and fly away from enemy ONLY when enemy is at around half range of the highest? range weapon, which means you will take heavy losses or plain lose the combat, if your dps is low. Also artillery computer is so messed up, that if you ever put PD guns on your battleships - they will fly into melee range. Carrier computer + strike craft is the most consistent at keep enemy at 125 range, but strike craft has slow dps build up and systems has borders - you can't kite enemy forever. tl;dr; best tactic vs 25x crysis is alpha strike with 3x torpedo/disruptor cruisers, get around 2-4k naval capacity of them, attack only lone fleets, rebuild lost after each fight, add some arc emitter + strike craft carrier battleships into each fleet to force engagements at system range, and 2 artillery aura titans with only perdition beam and NO other turrets.

Unrelated Question: I got the DLC Federations (already had a few others) and now my Game crashes every 1-2 Years. Graphic Driver is updated. Has anyone ever had that Problem and knows a Solution?