Even though you are only allowed 1 juggernaut, if your vassal gets one by tech advancement and you absorb the vassal, you get to keep the juggernaut. Wiped the preorthyn scourge by that strat. 👍

Worth noting for the Titan Auras: The enemy debuffs are objectively better than the allied buffs, because the allied buffs only affect ships in the same fleet as the Titan, but the debuffs affect every ship in every enemy fleet.

Corvette - 0:32 Frigate - 1:27 Destroyer - 2:32 Cruiser - 3:43 Battleship - 4:39 Titan - 5:42 Colossus - 6:30 Juggernaut - 6:40

Best use I've found for frigates is sneak attacking starbases at the start of a war. Sitting right on top of the starbase before you decloak means you get the torpedo strike off immediately and there is no chance for them to be intercepted.

Thank you ASpec, for explaining what the "G" slot means

In my latest game where I played as a criminal syndicate where my every neighbors hated me and thus closed their border to me, I built myself a specialized stealth fleet composed of only corvettes and frigates that were all equipped with cloaks that I would use as enforcers and vanguard, with my other normal ones I kept around for defense, and I was shocked with how effective they were. While the lack of shield can be detrimental, it is made irrelevant if you have good cloak levels (tech + subterfuge tradition) as I could effectively move my fleet right over the enemy and simply attack right from the get go, which was quite effective as the frigate issue of low range with torpedoes was rendered non-existent as they could launch them right at the start of battle. By the mid/late game my cloak was so strong I could go into fallen territory and not get detected, and I have never seen leviathans die quicker than against this fleet. Like literal seconds kind of lenght, that cosmic horror was obliterated. The composition was roughly 2 corvette for every frigate, with a good general at the helm it can be a scary force to behold.

This game is one of my top 3 games i like the most.

Could you throw a video about fleet composition? I don't play ofen but I usually goes for the 2 for 1 ratio (EI 2 corvette for a destroyer, 2 destoyers for a cruiser, etc). but I'll be interested in a better fleet composition. like how many corvette, destroyers cruisers for x types of missions. Thanks.

In broad strokes this is a good guide, I'd just add a few details for clarification: 1) There are two reasons why Destroyers typically outclass Corvettes. The first is their better range, having access to M- and L-slot weapons. The second is how your tech tends to improve Evasion less than it improves Tracking, the main counter to high-evasion ships. Evasion is capped at 90% which is only 30 better than what your Corvettes start with. Meanwhile an M-slot weapon might start with 30% tracking, but over time get access to +15 from sensors and another +30 from the right combat computer. Net +15 evasion barely covers the higher damage efficiency of the larger weapon, but that's before you factor in the range advantage and proportionately higher bulk of Destroyers. 2) Cruisers strictly outclass Frigates as torpedo bombers, unless you have the First Contact DLC and can give them Cloaking. Stat-wise a Frigate is a 1/4-size Cruiser with the same base speed and evasion, however a Cruiser can equip more than one Afterburner so it is effectively faster. When using short-range torpedoes, being able to close distance faster is a massive advantage for survivability; as is having four Frigates' worth of bulk concentrated onto one ship. 3) Battleships do exactly 2 things very well: using very large, long-range weapons, and having a high density of hangars. A battleship is twice as big as a Cruiser but has less than twice as many hit points, and takes almost double the damage for every torpedo that hits it. Battleships also can't use the best combat computer for close-range fighting (picket). For these reasons they're best kept at long-range.

Thank you, very informative :)

Apart from the fact that the spaceships are by far not as appealingly designed as those in Homeworld II / III or Endless Space II, they don't even move "realistically" through space. Not only do they not have any control jets, they also turn "unrealistically" and suddenly. In my humble opinion, this is a mood and immersion killer.

I like to field my juggernaut on the front, because when it's with ither fleets, it's basically as if you got 2 carrier (even more with the aura) and 2 x slot battleships more. And in case you lose the fight, you can most often retreat before it is in danger of getting destroyed. Also it is very good at kiting enemies, I once had a single juggernaut kiting down a 2.3 million fleetpower unbidden fleet reducing it to 500k, while barely getting scratched and escapping. Keeping it behind your lines is a waste, because at this point in the game you and yoir enemies likely have gateway infrastructure and a mega shipyard

Titans- tanky support craft with a pimp hand attached.

02:33 - Aren't Corvette's multi-role also? Did you mean the first viable multi-role? Just trying to understand, thanks for these videos.

@Stellaris please make a dedicated carrier and super carrier class. I'm begging you.

I love stellaris as the ship designs somehow better. At least the gun placement feels more realistic.

You didnt mention using Corvettes being the best to control fights, stopping ftl to split forces.

Thank you for the video appreciate it now I was wondering again anyone if they can post this idea paradox I don’t know how to make them see this idea, but I have an idea that really could help. The game. First idea is a rework of the frigates frigates are meant to be a Corvette, but slightly lower and speed, but tougher an armor they’re not meant to be slow they’re meant to be a little faster than just sitting ducks because again for a Costco Corvette is not even worth usually purchasing yet, because you lose them so much more than any other ship so that’s the first idea second idea is unity I don’t like how unity is used for leaders upkeep as well. I think that’s stupid. What unity should be used for his empire or your empire sprawl whatever so it’s better control like you have better loyalty or for robotic species, you have a better network system and every time it goes up by the increments of 20 so let’s say you’re empires sprawl a whatever you wanna call it hits 120 well now it’s double the cost originally it was costing you want unity point but now it’s causing you to unities until you hit 140 which day it will double again so it’ll cost you four points of unity to control your empire again I think that would be a better system, and if anyone can suggest is ideas to paradox or no put it somewhere where they can see it I would appreciate it and feel free to use it

Long live the S.H.E.D. Empire!

What does 'picket' mean?

is there a guide for building fleets/military? my problem in Stellaris atm is basically I can build a big thriving empire im having tons of fun with and building stuff and engrossed in, only to find when any combat starts at all their forces are overwhelmingly strong! huuuuuuge fleets over 40K in strength or even sometimes 70k! and heres my fleet I was proud of thats only like 3K, but my economy cant afford to make more! this is the max fleet I can have!, also military, land units I mean, my land units die the second they land on enemy planets, I dont know why. but I watch others playing and they have no problem at all so I know the problem is me I just dont know how. I have all DLC btw, so im not limited on tactics at all, if I need a DLC to do a specific trick recommended, I have no problem I can do it

what dlcs add the big ships

imagine how fucking big the juggernaut is supposed to be if it can build two battleships at the same time

And then there is New Ship Classes mods if all of this isn't confusing and convoluted enough. That said, I cannots play without my Flagship...

Aspec is awesome

Since we're on the subject of talking about ships, Paradox, can we please have be able to merge all possible ships with eachother by simple pressing G instead of having to micro split every fleet and put them together one by one and just let the game do it for us?

Is just torpedo spam on corvettes viable past early game?

Where is the Star Eater?

Speaking of ships, when can we expect a machine shipset?

Whenever I have a fight against an AI. No matter what I add, if it's a corvette, frigates or destroyers. They all die and need replacement (while winning battle). Only battleships stay long enough to get repaired and see the next battle. Why bother then? ¯⁠\⁠_😑_⁠/⁠¯ Edit: Also about a juggernaut. You forgot that it's a headache to have one. 😫 For example: Let's say I want to build two fleets of 20 battleships each totalling to 40 ships (Nothing surprising I suppose?). 🤔 Megashipyard starts building 30 ships then 10 battleships gets built by Juggernaut. What could be done in 368 days (a little over a year) will take 920 days (over two and half years). 🤦‍♂ Why? Where's the logic? I don't understand any of it, but it's clearly stupid. 🤯 Doesn't matter where the Juggernaut stays, in the innermost system of L-Gate, a gateway, a system with the megashipyard in it, all of it gives the same result so I just stopped using it even just to shorten the jump drive cooldown 😒 Things get even funnier when you add corvettes to the mix of a single fleet. For example I once saw when megashipyard starts building like 20 corvettes, a ton of corvettes went for Juggernaut as well. Then at the end of it all Battleships were to be constructed, so about 6 battleships went for Megashipyard, the Juggernaut had to build 6 as well... on top of 10 or so corvettes too... Nice job 🤖👍

6:50 "The Juggernaut should not be engaging fights. This is a behind the lines ship." My Juggernaut, after I command all my ships to engage the enemy: "LAST ONE IS A ROTTEN EGG WOOOOOOOOOO-"

Is this info even valid?

1. Destroyers, for Godsake, have torpedoes. Torpedo cruisers are ok, see WW2 and Star Trek. 2. Maneuverability, not speed, is what defines smaller ships in water and space. Huge engines in larger ships make them faster than military smaller ships. See US fast battleships, French and Italians designs. 3. I would change the naval costs from 2x to 3x or even 4x. Wealthy empires only should afford BBs and Titans. Poorer empires should stick to Vettes, DD and a handfull of cruisers. Like, if Stellaris tried to "simulate" anything. 4. The frigate could be in the tech tree as a vette and a half (advanced vette). And a Battlecruiser could be added as a cruiser and a half. That would emulate fallen empires´ ships. A frigate would be smaller and more powerfull than a destroyer and a battlecruiser smaller and most powerfull than a BB.

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