Step by Step How to Vacuum Down Mini Split Using Analog Gauges Release Refrigerant Check for Leaks

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HVAC Mechanic

HVAC Mechanic

4 ай бұрын

Detailed step by step for vacuuming down Mini Split with analog gauges, releasing refrigerant, and checking for leaks.
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@sevoserver912
@sevoserver912 13 күн бұрын
I just installed a Tosot 230V 9000 BTU mini split in my pool house. I found this video extremely helpful. This was my first install but I’m pretty handy with electrical and building. For vacuuming the lines and releasing the refrigerant I found your video the most helpful and clear. Thanks for posting your video!
@daviddiaz7767
@daviddiaz7767 Ай бұрын
I do everything around my home but have always been afraid of the HVAC system. Thanks for explaining things so well and making this feel easy. New tools and skills in my toolbox. Thank you!!
@UltratecJS
@UltratecJS 21 күн бұрын
Great video my friend. I went from guessing on what I was doing with my DIY mini split install, to actually understanding what's happening on the back end.
@davidmclain1875
@davidmclain1875 2 ай бұрын
Man...great video. I've watched a dozen of these vids on minisplits. Thank you for making one just for the vacuum portion of the install.
@billbill1605
@billbill1605 Ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial no nonsense right to the point all this needed thank you so much
@RonSellsArizona
@RonSellsArizona Ай бұрын
Thanks so much. I'm seventy two and have always been my own Mr. Fixit. But this was a first for me. I have watched several videos on the subject and this is the best. Articulate, concise, and Very Very helpful. Thanks so very much. Oh yeah, totally worked fine and I am now cool.
@kneedlezkane7665
@kneedlezkane7665 5 күн бұрын
Awesome Thank you
@mathieulessardr
@mathieulessardr 3 ай бұрын
thank you I will install my heat pump this weekend👍
@pointblank6467
@pointblank6467 Ай бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for all the details.
@joeybalogny6095
@joeybalogny6095 8 күн бұрын
great videos love them awesome you can use tru blu great thread locker awesome video thanks for the help.
@noealanis1801
@noealanis1801 18 күн бұрын
Is the adapter the same for all mini splits?
@tamdang2566
@tamdang2566 2 ай бұрын
Thank you you have show how to vacuum this system so all mini split requires vacuum right?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 2 ай бұрын
If there is outside air in the lines, then yes, a mini split needs a vacuum. There is quick connect type mini split units that don't need a vacuum and come with the line set already in a vacuum.
@CaptainCorpuscle1
@CaptainCorpuscle1 Ай бұрын
To which port do I connect the blue hose? I’m assuming it it the one marked “low pressure charge plug” but I want to be sure. I seem to have two ports, and the one i think it is does not need an adapter
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
If there are two ports, the blue hose goes to the low-pressure big line, and the red hose goes to the high-pressure small line.
@pjtill1
@pjtill1 3 ай бұрын
Do you put anything on the threads of the caps to help create a backup seal?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 3 ай бұрын
I use Nylog on the flares but nothing for the threads.
@johnmatasr1074
@johnmatasr1074 2 ай бұрын
Are the two-way valve and three-way valve closed when vacuuming the lines?
@riotgear6891
@riotgear6891 2 ай бұрын
For the initial vacuum, yes. They are closed because they are keeping all the refrigerant in the condenser.
@HondaVTECGD8
@HondaVTECGD8 3 ай бұрын
If both valves are shut closed, how does the vacuum pump able to do its job vacuuming those copper pipes?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 3 ай бұрын
The unit is shipped in a vacuum with the refrigerant and locked in with the valves. Once the copper line set is in a vacuum, the refrigerant can be released by opening the valves.
@gilbertjaramillo8735
@gilbertjaramillo8735 Ай бұрын
My ac compressor and condenser have no refrigerant, so I need to do a pressure test on the whole system. Can I open the service hi and lo valves so the nitrogen can go thru both the compressor and condenser or should only the evaporator and its lines be checked? Same question to do a vacuum test? All the system or just the evaporator side?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
If the valves are closed, it will only test the line set and indoor unit. Most leaks are in the line set connections, but they can be elsewhere. Basically, follow the manufacturer's manual to make sure the pressure doesn't exceed what is safe or components can be damaged. As long as the manufacturer's high pressure is not exceeded, it won't damage any components. After the leak is found and fixed, the whole system will need to be set in a vacuum.
@gilbertjaramillo8735
@gilbertjaramillo8735 Ай бұрын
But I want the valves open to test for compressor and condenser leaks. Is it possible?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
Yes, just don't go over the manufacturer's high-pressure rating for the unit.
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt Ай бұрын
What line should I open first Big one or small one
@bradywassam5232
@bradywassam5232 Ай бұрын
Big
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt Ай бұрын
What line should you open first
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
Most manuals will say to open suction line first
@burleypierce2999
@burleypierce2999 Ай бұрын
Do have that part number for the adapter? Thanks in advance
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
It is a 5/16" to 1/4" adapter. A link is in the description.
@byoung1520
@byoung1520 14 күн бұрын
Does it have to get to -30? Mine gets to -15 but it will stay steady at -15
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 14 күн бұрын
It depends on the vacuum pump how well it pumps down, but a slow pump should get to at least -30 Hg. Also, be sure to check the gauge is R410a.
@gilbertjaramillo8735
@gilbertjaramillo8735 Ай бұрын
Thanks, I will use 150 to 200 pounds max.
@garytodd5605
@garytodd5605 Ай бұрын
A micron guage along with vacume guage will show you a lot . Your vacume guage will give you confirmation that your system has a vacume on it if it is depressing the shrader valve correctly. The micron guage will give you a much better indication of moisture in system. My guage went to almost 30 inhg very quickly. but the micron guage was taking forever to drop down. To below 500 i would like to see 300 or less on the micron guage. Then prefer it stays under 500 after about ten to 15 min isolation test is prefered. The vacume drops the boiling point of water way down. So the vac pump can suck the water vapor out of the system. I was in a hurry and very tired and connected the vac hose and it didn't depress the schrader valve very well if at all. I did not have the micron guage attached. And released the refergerant. After getting some rest i started second guessing if i had it vacumed sufficiantly. So to error on the safe side i recovered the refergerant and started vac with micron guage. Shrader valve removed 29 inhg was obtained quickly but 8 hrs later the micron level got down to 500 micron. Im assuming it took some time to dehydrate the moisture from the oil. HVAC is not my prefered line of work. I do it when required. Have most of the equipment to do it correctly. I do it when required for myself or friends and chillers at my employment. And have to refresh my memory when doing so. My point. Is if you have a micron guage avaiably. Use it.
@buttercatz99
@buttercatz99 Ай бұрын
Make a video that is simple and quick on how to use a micron gauge?
@robertgregory2618
@robertgregory2618 14 күн бұрын
Do you have to take the shrader valve out to use the micron gauge. I know it's faster but we are only checking roughly 30 feet total copper lines, liquid and gas lines.
@Iamkab
@Iamkab Ай бұрын
When I connect my adapter to the service valve it starts shooting out quite a bit of coolant before I can even get it closed. I noticed yours did nothing like this. Why would that be?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
During installation, there should be no refrigerant in the lines until it is released, which is the last step. Refrigerant is only released after the lines are in a vacuum. If refrigerant is in the lines, it needs what is called a Pump Down done first.
@Iamkab
@Iamkab Ай бұрын
​@@HVAC_Mechanicsorry, yes I am trying to do a pump down. That is when I'm experiencing this issue. I think the problem is I am not confident enough to just keep screwing it on as it shoots out
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
When shipped refrigerant is locked in the outside unit which is only released after the line set is in a vacuum. A Pump Down it is putting the refrigerant back into the outside unit as it was when shipped. There should be no refrigerant in the lines while placing the line set in a vacuum. A Pump Down and vacuuming the lines are two different things.
@Iamkab
@Iamkab Ай бұрын
Yes I am trying to do a pump down to move my mini split temporarily. The issue I am having is that it was shooting out quite a bit of gas when trying to connect to the service port​@@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
Sorry, I misunderstood. Yes, the connections need to be done quickly. A small amount will come out, but it should be minimal. Be sure the equipment is good. It might help to watch a video of it being done.
@user-uz7qy5ib8r
@user-uz7qy5ib8r Ай бұрын
The line set should not rolls so many,You should cut the tube make new flare connecting the unit for better oil return.
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
You can cut the line set, but it is not necessary. If the line set is cut, the refrigerant needs to be recalculated since the unit is prefilled for the 16-foot run.
@waituntilthebeep
@waituntilthebeep 28 күн бұрын
The low side connection... the large line that you hooked the blue line to from the gauge set... when fully opened is called being "back seated" and the pressure that is on that blue line is ONLY freon from the valve to the manifold head. There is no reason to "remove it as quickly as you can" to cap it. If that valve is opened until it stops, it will not leak out freon from the system. Remove your blue line and install the cap that came with the system. All is well. When vacuuming the system down, both of the valves should be closed and the only part you are putting under a vacuum is the line set through the evaporator (inside head). Once under good vacuum, opening both the valves fully closes the gauge set off from the condensor and prevents any freon from leaking out unless you have a bad flare on one of the lines. People think HVAC is scary. Fortunately sellers like Senville and all the others (made by the same company BTW) make installation pretty easy. They also make HVAC repair people
@salvatoregiovanni8967
@salvatoregiovanni8967 Ай бұрын
Good video, but you do absolutely need a micron gauge. Mini split manuals will specifically give a micron value to ensure a deep vacuum is maintained. Traditional Gauges don’t tell you shit as far as vacuum depth. Dish soap will only show the worst of leaks. Oftentimes a slow leak won’t even show up using dish soap. I still appreciate the spirit of your video.
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Ай бұрын
Micron gauges are good but are not necessary; analog gauges work just as well. Many installers don't even use gauges or a vacuum pump at all and just do a line set flush. Soap will find small refrigerant leaks and is a common method to find a leak and fix a leaky unit. If you have a micron gauge, use it, they are good tools.
@robertgregory2618
@robertgregory2618 14 күн бұрын
Dakin and Goodman 12000 units don't suggest micron gauges, why do you think they don't suggest micron usage?
@salvatoregiovanni8967
@salvatoregiovanni8967 14 күн бұрын
I’m just saying it’s impossible to determine how well your system is vacuumed with an analog gauge set. Just for reference, the “29” on your gauge is roughly 23,000 microns. “29.92” is 50 to 100ish microns. Is your eyeball resolution good enough to divide the space between the 29 and 30 on your gauge (assuming it’s even calibrated) into 23,000 equally spaced tick marks? Almost all equipment manufacturers will recommend a 500 micron vacuum will be held for a specified duration of usually 5-10 mins for a system to be deemed “dry.” Any vacuum is better than no vacuum. So yes, your system will work if the vacuum is done as you suggest. Will the compressor life be as good, and will the system operate as well as one that has a proper vacuum done with a micron gauge? No.
@robertgregory2618
@robertgregory2618 14 күн бұрын
@@salvatoregiovanni8967 Thanks for your time making that response. Makes sense what your saying. May I ask one more question? Do you absolutely have to take the shrader valve out to add the micron gauge if you have lots of time.
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt
@JoeNorsworthy-nm3bt Ай бұрын
What line should I open first Big one or small one
@blunismo1
@blunismo1 Ай бұрын
I would presume the line that has the service port on it.
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